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[OS] Google Chrome

Last night Google announced the Google Chrome open source OS.
This OS will be available for small ARM based devices up to full scale desktop/laptop x86 based devices. Google aims to create a nearly instant on OS with a high reliabilty and the ability to use the applications for Chrome in any (HTML5 Compatible?) browser on any other platform.
ANY WAY... ARM compatibility is nice
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

Possible for it to run on the xperia?

dadeadman said:
Possible for it to run on the xperia?
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Nobody knows. For now, it's just an initial announcement with no further details. We'll have to wait for them to release before we see, but it's basically just another window shell on top of a Linux kernel.

Which is fine with me. If google can release an OS that can be flexible enough for ARM to x86, and it WORKS, I'll be happy. I'd love to see a proper Linux ROM on our HTC devices.. it's a shame to be limited to a haret 'side boot' instead of a native ROM

l3it3r said:
Which is fine with me. If google can release an OS that can be flexible enough for ARM to x86, and it WORKS, I'll be happy. I'd love to see a proper Linux ROM on our HTC devices.. it's a shame to be limited to a haret 'side boot' instead of a native ROM
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Considering WM devices have a REALLY bad habit of booting quite differently from maker to maker, I wouldn't be holding your breath for anything other than a haret based solution for quite some time...

[Q] Port Flash Player 10.1/10.2 to ARMv6?

Can somebody port (or try to) the flash player to the armv6 processor?
It sucks be without flash... =(

cannot agree more!

If its possible on over clocked processors then please do that
Like if I have 1ghz above out will be enough for flash and phone too will be smooth enough

Not possible at all, the same thing goes on with Flash on iPhone 2G, 3G, iPod touch 1G and 2G. All those devices have ARM6 CPU's and it just isn't possible to backport it like that. If it was, it would have happened years ago.

GazaIan said:
Not possible at all, the same thing goes on with Flash on iPhone 2G, 3G, iPod touch 1G and 2G. All those devices have ARM6 CPU's and it just isn't possible to backport it like that. If it was, it would have happened years ago.
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but I've heard that iphone has some similar app for flash... something like "frash" maybe

brunoshady said:
but I've heard that iphone has some similar app for flash... something like "frash" maybe
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Frash also uses libflashplayer.so from the android build which is based on ARMv7 or later.
@everyone:
However, IT IS POSSIBLE to port Flash to ARMv6. However, it would be a lot of work and it will be really buggy and slow. A better alternative would be to encourage the development of GNASH which already works on ARM but doesn't have a browser plugin yet.
GNASH is also buggy but we do have the source. As for Flash, it has to be reverse engineered. Plus, Adobe itself is convinced that Flash is going to die in lieu of HTML5 and so they have started experimenting Flash to HTML5 conversion tools. Such a tool has already been released but sadly it works only with simple banners and not with games and such.

nibras_reeza said:
Frash also uses libflashplayer.so from the android build which is based on ARMv7 or later.
@everyone:
However, IT IS POSSIBLE to port Flash to ARMv6. However, it would be a lot of work and it will be really buggy and slow. A better alternative would be to encourage the development of GNASH which already works on ARM but doesn't have a browser plugin yet.
GNASH is also buggy but we do have the source. As for Flash, it has to be reverse engineered. Plus, Adobe itself is convinced that Flash is going to die in lieu of HTML5 and so they have started experimenting Flash to HTML5 conversion tools. Such a tool has already been released but sadly it works only with simple banners and not with games and such.
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what is GNASH?

brunoshady said:
what is GNASH?
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Open source Flash player.
http://www.gnu.org/s/gnash/

Check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155538

webtop and gentop2

hi
i know there are only 3 custom roms with webtop support
but can you use any of the other roms with gentop2?
i love the neutrino rom but not being able to use the webtop is a pain
just need some sort of function to run the phone on the lapdock
even if its a mirrored display
whats the best rom options or should i have stayed on stock?

Been trying out some of the ice cream builds today
They mirror the display from the phone at the phone Res so looks quite blocky
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Nope. Gentop is kind of modded OSH / webtop. Only works under blur roms.
You'll have to wait until Webtop/TabletUI will be released by moto (along with ICS).

sxg75 said:
Nope. Gentop is kind of modded OSH / webtop. Only works under blur roms.
You'll have to wait until Webtop/TabletUI will be released by moto (along with ICS).
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I doubt the atrix is at the top of motos list...
but as soon as the tabletUI resolution gets sorted,
using chroot linux would be feasable... and with great optimised releases like gendols gentop2 im sure being on par with a netbook would be possible.

why cyanmogen isn't developed and released with webtop?
so hard supporting it?

NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Might Appear In Linux 3.8

I don't know if this might be useful for devs, but since the Linux kernel is open source, i guess it might help a little.
Link do the post: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyNTc

Staging stuff is the 'corner of crap' of the kernel - beta stuff which does not meet the quality standards of the kernel. In other words, those drivers won't be fun until they stabilize a bit.

Either way problem with atrix is not that we can't use current closed sources drm drivers but that we have to make kernel with support for all internals of atrix like buses, controllers and other devices. And then connect all things together with correct frequncies, voltages, pinmuxes. That makes things hard. Especially because things in 2.6.32 were done dynamically and it's hard to read it from code. Yet I'm working on that
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for now, seems to exist no 3D support. But I believe that this mature driver can serve to help.

First someone would have to port our kernel to 3.8 or downport drm driver from 3.8 to 2.6.32. Sooner we'll have port to 2.6.34.9 and HWA.
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3.8 ? I think our tablet has 3.08 kernel

It may have 3.0.8. As for 3.8 it's not even released yet, we have now 3.7 as an unstable/development version of 3.8, and Nvidia's DRM driver integration is planned for 3.8. And even then it's not gonna show up in android soon, as android kernel is not fully integrated with mainline kernel yet. So looong road till we have something we can call stable and usable. For now open DRM drivers don't have 3D support, so it basically leave us here where we are currently. It's nice Nvidia is working with opensource community, but these drivers are mainly for embeded tegra2 based systems (like in cars or washing machines). I'm not saying it can't be used in our phone, but you won't gain much. Unless there is Android 7.0 and nvidia no longer supports tegra2 platform and we want it badly then we can use it (i think).

Call to ARM's, raise your voice for better AOSP support !

there is currently a Q&A with an ARM GPU division VP at anandtech.com , where we can raise awareness about the MALI GPU's lack of open-source drivers (the main reason why were all getting bad/****ty CM support here..)
so raise you voice ! get yourself heard ! its the only way this works.. and maybe, just maybe .. these godamn bastards will realize you cant keep calling yourself "open" and not release open-source drivers for linux and android !
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8226/ask-the-experts-arm-fellow-jem-davies-answers-your-gpu-questions

Thanks
Enviado desde La Isla de Camaron

Exynos sources would be much more useful.

we are getting bad support because 60% of our drivers aren´t open source and are from Samsung, witch modifies to run better touchwiz than aosp, mali´s drivers are already good running aosp,i have a tab with a mali gpu and it runs aosp without no problems, good support and speed.
our main problems are that since we dont have open source drivers(just a few) we have to modify the rom to runs with our drivers, alongside we still run at 3.0.101 kernel,witch not even jellybean fully supports it(jb is made to 3.1+).
TL;DR whats the point of having just the gpu driver that is already pretty good/optimized for aosp and not having the full soc sources?even more the exynos one, since its optimized for touchwiz, not for aosp.

Exynos 4 is one of the most closed-source SoCs ever created till now. One driver won't change anything, deal with it. SGS3 is closed as hell, we're lucky that AOSP is pretty damn acceptable in current form.