Has anyone made a haptic touch plugin for wm6 devices?
Would love the phone to slightly vibrate when I use the touch keyboard.
I'm on a htc diamond btw.
I think it would be cool too, but I think one of the biggest problems is the time delay between hitting the key and feeling the vibration. I also wonder about the effect on battery life... anyways I would still like to try it!
You might want to do a search because I remember reading about something like this but think it was for the dialer.
I will post here if I find the thread.
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Yea I am pretty certain one of the Iphone dialers is haptic or something...perhaps it's a dailer you have to pay for.
I have a couple kinda sorta solutions..
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
Raven1467 said:
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
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Tnx a lot walter, and thanks for explaining the difference between haptic and tactile
Posting a guide on changing the registry or giving me a link to the two programs mentioned over would be great.
Raven1467 said:
On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
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uh, not quite sure what "haptic" technology you're talking about, but any feedback of mechanical vibration would definitely be considered "haptic feedback". From wikipeida: "Haptic technology refers to technology which interfaces the user via the sense of touch by applying forces, vibrations and/or motions to the user."
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
This sounds a very interesting idea! Not every program visually responds to touch when operated with finger, so sometimes I was just left wondering did I make the touch? Did the touch go through? Then one or two seconds later (yes my phone is that slow) something happens. This should help if not eliminate that problem.
Here is the cab for the haptic-esque dialpad if anyone was interested
i've noticed that when haptics is on, it tends to vibrate only every other press
such intensive vibration is probably bad for your phone
a_lazy_dude said:
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
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That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
DiemetriX said:
That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
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I've installed this but can't find it anywhere. Looked in programs, personal and settings. I've even looked in the windows folder. I have an HTC Raphael.
Any pointers please...?
For as long as I can remember the haptic feedback and vibration intensity on my phone has been quite weak compared to other android phones I've played with. After a while I resigned to the fact that it was a hardware problem and nothing on XDA could help me. I was wrong though.
After flashing the froyo MIUI ROM available in the dev forum my haptic feedback was suddenly much stronger. There was an especially noticeable difference with the capacitive buttons below the screen. Since then I've switched between MIUI and several stock-based 2.3/2.3 ROMs and only MIUI has ever felt "right" when it comes to capacitive feedback. I actually really like MIUI for reasons other than this but I can't quite bring myself to use it full time until a few more bugs are worked out.
Wondering if anyone else has this issue and if there's anything I can do to fix it.
Do you have your vibration intensity turned all the way up?
Setting -> Sounds -> Vibration Intensity.
Yes I do. 10char
So I have this phone a week or more now and I have been having no issues whatsoever except for the battery timing being very low which I have came learn how to use more efficiently reading guides however I've come across a new problem..a problem that seriously driving me crazy
First of my phone hasn't been accidentally dropped or suffered any shock
So I've been texting and typing a lot with the phone and I loved the feeling of its haptic feedback which was very strong I think the intensity was maxed out but since last night I've been feeling it weird to type messages on it and I realized the phone hasn't been vibration back strong enough on its feedback and now vibrations is so weak It is really killing the joy, at first I felt that may be I'm being paranoid and nothing is wrong with it but after a good night sleep I am still feeling its Not intense enough for me,
I tried the screen test and the phone vibrates like a beast! but when ever it comes to using the keyboard the vibration is so low, on the intensity options the phone vibrates strongly but on keyboard its very low! I can't figure out what the problem is the vibrating is fine with other things but not with haptic feed back.. anybody know what I should do? is it a software or hardware problem? Its my first smart phone and touch screen experience and its really got ruined...
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Okay just found out something new when I used the Swype keyboard the haptic feedback got stronger so that means this isn't a hardware problem? but if its a software problem I have no Idea whats wrong with it cause I haven't done any updates on it, have reset the phone plenty of times but no avail..
Same here, except that I have used CyanogenMod ROM ( worked fine ) then restored a stock, KI3 backup. After restore I have the same behavior as you. I'll try to switch back to CM to see if helps
D: God the feedback is making it feel..so cheapish like it had a very strong vibration now it feels as if the vibrator inside is broken or something very light is vibrating..
in the start I was feeling the vibrations very weird like as if the vibrator isn't fit in the phone right but after I put the phone through vibration test the vibrations didn't have this jerkish feeling to them but now they are soo low and on swype God it feels so good but I hate using that keyboard .
CyanogenMod works fine, switching back to stock no. At least seems to be software issue
Hello all!
Anyone else notice that the keypress vibration is insane when typing? I tried SwiftKey and lowered the vibration to its lowest setting and it stays the same. Also tried G Board and it's still the same. I switched the vibration under setting for touch to light but same issue..
Same for me. After rooting and installing a custom kernel...it's possible to adjust vibration via a kernel manager.
Same here. I just put in for an RMA thinking my vibrator is defective because the vibrator is way too strong to be good haptic feedback for the keyboard. Every other OP has very fine tunability for key pressing. The OP5 is over the top! Not sure now if I should proceed with the RMA or not....
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Same here. I just put in for an RMA thinking my vibrator is defective because the vibrator is way too strong to be good haptic feedback for the keyboard. Every other OP has very fine tunability for key pressing. The OP5 is over the top! Not sure now if I should proceed with the RMA or not....
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Bro that is such a software fix, don't trip, mine vibration is strong on swiftkey too.
Rebel7022 said:
Bro that is such a software fix, don't trip, mine vibration is strong on swiftkey too.
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Does your vibrator also have a "long decay" whenever its activated? Like when I get a call or press a key, the vibrator almost feels like a spring and it doesn't stop as quickly as it starts.
This is why I felt the my unit may be defective. But it could just be the nature of this new more powerful vibrator. I was just surprised that nobody else (and our reviews) mentioned it until this lone thread.
Hi folks,
I am new to the Xiaomi routine but took the plunge at Christmas after many moons with M7s...
The phone is obviously much more swift, the more modern gimcracks inside make it seem like a different world and the battery seems amazing. However...a niggle or two...
The < capacitive key light does not light. It has not since I started using the phone a week or so back. Is there a fix for this? Or is this a hardware issue?
Also the damn keyboard seems to jump into flags or smileys all too easily when I am typing. Can I switch this off?
Finally the volume of the speaker on wattsapp is very low. Which is odd as when playing youtube videos the volume seems okay. I am yet to make any actual phone calls.
Any advice would be welcome.
The thing is under warranty for a year. And I have sent word f the issues to the seller.
Cheers,
Daniel