Has anyone made a haptic touch plugin for wm6 devices?
Would love the phone to slightly vibrate when I use the touch keyboard.
I'm on a htc diamond btw.
I think it would be cool too, but I think one of the biggest problems is the time delay between hitting the key and feeling the vibration. I also wonder about the effect on battery life... anyways I would still like to try it!
You might want to do a search because I remember reading about something like this but think it was for the dialer.
I will post here if I find the thread.
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Yea I am pretty certain one of the Iphone dialers is haptic or something...perhaps it's a dailer you have to pay for.
I have a couple kinda sorta solutions..
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
Raven1467 said:
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
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Tnx a lot walter, and thanks for explaining the difference between haptic and tactile
Posting a guide on changing the registry or giving me a link to the two programs mentioned over would be great.
Raven1467 said:
On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
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uh, not quite sure what "haptic" technology you're talking about, but any feedback of mechanical vibration would definitely be considered "haptic feedback". From wikipeida: "Haptic technology refers to technology which interfaces the user via the sense of touch by applying forces, vibrations and/or motions to the user."
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
This sounds a very interesting idea! Not every program visually responds to touch when operated with finger, so sometimes I was just left wondering did I make the touch? Did the touch go through? Then one or two seconds later (yes my phone is that slow) something happens. This should help if not eliminate that problem.
Here is the cab for the haptic-esque dialpad if anyone was interested
i've noticed that when haptics is on, it tends to vibrate only every other press
such intensive vibration is probably bad for your phone
a_lazy_dude said:
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
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That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
DiemetriX said:
That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
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I've installed this but can't find it anywhere. Looked in programs, personal and settings. I've even looked in the windows folder. I have an HTC Raphael.
Any pointers please...?
Quick question to all of my fellow Legend users; By default Haptic feedback (little vibrating feedback when using the touch keyboard) is switched on.
When I type a message on my phone I feel that the vibrator is touching the case of my phone. As a result I get a little annoying vibrating sounds when typing a message. It's like the little vibrator inside the phone isn't properly fixed to its place.
Anybody here who has the same problem?
Just wanted to check this out before I return my phone for replacement.
Thank you!
Update: Returned my phone and the new one should arrive tomorrow... Good service at smartphoneshop, thanks!
No such problem with my Legend (n/t)
(n/t means No Text)
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When I type a message on my phone I feel that the vibrator is touching the case of my phone...
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So I have this phone a week or more now and I have been having no issues whatsoever except for the battery timing being very low which I have came learn how to use more efficiently reading guides however I've come across a new problem..a problem that seriously driving me crazy
First of my phone hasn't been accidentally dropped or suffered any shock
So I've been texting and typing a lot with the phone and I loved the feeling of its haptic feedback which was very strong I think the intensity was maxed out but since last night I've been feeling it weird to type messages on it and I realized the phone hasn't been vibration back strong enough on its feedback and now vibrations is so weak It is really killing the joy, at first I felt that may be I'm being paranoid and nothing is wrong with it but after a good night sleep I am still feeling its Not intense enough for me,
I tried the screen test and the phone vibrates like a beast! but when ever it comes to using the keyboard the vibration is so low, on the intensity options the phone vibrates strongly but on keyboard its very low! I can't figure out what the problem is the vibrating is fine with other things but not with haptic feed back.. anybody know what I should do? is it a software or hardware problem? Its my first smart phone and touch screen experience and its really got ruined...
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Okay just found out something new when I used the Swype keyboard the haptic feedback got stronger so that means this isn't a hardware problem? but if its a software problem I have no Idea whats wrong with it cause I haven't done any updates on it, have reset the phone plenty of times but no avail..
Same here, except that I have used CyanogenMod ROM ( worked fine ) then restored a stock, KI3 backup. After restore I have the same behavior as you. I'll try to switch back to CM to see if helps
D: God the feedback is making it feel..so cheapish like it had a very strong vibration now it feels as if the vibrator inside is broken or something very light is vibrating..
in the start I was feeling the vibrations very weird like as if the vibrator isn't fit in the phone right but after I put the phone through vibration test the vibrations didn't have this jerkish feeling to them but now they are soo low and on swype God it feels so good but I hate using that keyboard .
CyanogenMod works fine, switching back to stock no. At least seems to be software issue
I am not sure how to explain it exactly.
I turn off my phone and tap the screen (anywhere on the phone really) and I feel a spring-like vibration as if the vibrating motor is slightly loose. It feels like a light haptic feedback after effect.
Anyone else notice this?
Same. It has done this for a couple phones I've owned. Has to do with the vibration setup, afaik.
Unless your vibration is actually malfunctioning, I'd say you're fine.
I noticed it - I figured it was the accelerometer or the gyro - something in there has to be spring-mounted to detect motions. You might check out the iFixiIt teardown - they probably labeled it
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I noticed it - I figured it was the accelerometer or the gyro - something in there has to be spring-mounted to detect motions. You might check out the iFixiIt teardown - they probably labeled it
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I noticed it with 2 devices.
Hi guys,
i bought my s4 the day one and it works great for now :laugh: but i have a question on the device's vibration. It looks like stronger than s3, so strong that during vibration seems that plastic parts vibrate Is it normal? It looks like an electric razor xD :good:
Also found the Vibra is stronger on the S3
Might have a look to see if the flex/motors are the same and try a swap but not yet
yeh I found when i first got it the startup vibrate (can that be turned off by the way?) was really strong and sounded/felt unpleasant.
Have turned down the haptics and vibrate in settings and now its ok. Except that startup vibrate is still intense.
there is vibration settings, you can choose rhythm (not sure if it's the correct word) and the strength of vibration. just try that
paddylaz said:
yeh I found when i first got it the startup vibrate (can that be turned off by the way?) was really strong and sounded/felt unpleasant.
Have turned down the haptics and vibrate in settings and now its ok. Except that startup vibrate is still intense.
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I didi the same, but in general I wanted to ask if it was normal
Markz88 said:
Hi guys,
i bought my s4 the day one and it works great for now :laugh: but i have a question on the device's vibration. It looks like stronger than s3, so strong that during vibration seems that plastic parts vibrate Is it normal? It looks like an electric razor xD :good:
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It seems to be normal! Unfortunately. Some plastic parts vibrate even if you lay the phone on the table... Just knock on the chassis with your finger an the phone vibrates....
Cheers from Switzerland
Pat
sia1996 said:
Hi
It seems to be normal! Unfortunately. Some plastic parts vibrate even if you lay the phone on the table... Just knock on the chassis with your finger an the phone vibrates....
Cheers from Switzerland
Pat
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I agree with you, on my device happens the same thing, the color of mine is White Frost.
But a friend of mine has bought the phone (color Black Myst) some days ago, his device's vibration isn't strong and knocking on the chassis with a finger doesn't make the phone vibrate.... Should us be worried for ours?
Thank you for your replies.
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I know this topic is oldish but I also have one question.
Does your gs4 vibration make a kind of broken sounding noise? I don't know how to describe the noise but it's like if some part inside is loose.
When I hold the device firmly it vibrates normally. I removed the cover and pinpointed the noise source, seems to be the camera or the sim/SD slot.
It's rally bad when you start the device and it vibrates once, or when you spam press the bell or heart beat vibration preview in settings.
It's also just the first few milliseconds of the vibrate when it's really bad I think.
Do you guys have the same thing?
I got the same problem... Thought it was just me...
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda app-developers app
Is there any solution for the crackling sound coming from the phone when it vibrates??