Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
saywa said:
Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
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The Xbox Music app for Windows 8 is built using the WinRT runtime, which is not available on Windows 7. To my knowledge this is not possible, also with an app like Xbox Music, I think hacking around that would be a bad idea for various reasons. Furthermore, the entire app 'experience' (full screen, metro driven environment) is not even remotely supported in Windows 7, so assuming you could 'trick' the WinRT backend onto Windows 7, the OS and App are not going to get along well at all, let alone if all of this was done somehow, I peg the chances of buying/streaming/etc actually working as close to 0.
I have Windows 8 Pro, custom build, nothing special though and even with this I can't stream or purchase song's on my Windows 8 Xbox Music app, despite hours of troubleshooting, there is quite a bit going on in the background for apps like Xbox Music.
Apologies, if that was more information than you wanted, anyhow that's my take on this. Hope it helps.
Why would you *want* to, though? Xbox Music is a crap app compared to what it "replaces", the Zune app. Zune runs great on Win7 (and also runs on Win8, in desktop mode) and is still available for download from http://zune.net. Xbox Music Pass and Zune Pass are the same thing; I can still stream and download my music using either app... but where Xbox Music is likely to tell me that for some reason it can't play the track, or to stutter or lag when picking or switching songs, Zune is capable of such crazy and advanced features as playing a Smart DJ list based on a specific song, rather than just based on an artist, and you can mark songs as "disliked" to avoid them playing again.
MS seriously screwed the pooch with their Xbox Music app on the PC... and for Windows RT, you can't even go back to Zune! Possibly my biggest disappointment in the new OS.
i just need it, you can't understand, many of us need it, if you dont like it, others will do.
It could be emulated.
I'm just confused what feature of the new app you're looking for. For *everything* that I've found except usability with a touchscreen, Zune is better. If you have a touchscreen, you should definitely be running Win8 anyhow. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll help you if I can, but I'm not going to put effort into supporting an inferior app on an older platform for the sake of "i just need it, you can't understand"!
saywa said:
i just need it
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If it is that much of a requirement just get windows 8.
saywa said:
you can't understand
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How incredibly closed minded that is. How do you know I can't understand? just a tip, insulting peoples intelligence is no way to get help.
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
saywa said:
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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finally a better answer
hacking anything without premission is illegal, so thats not a problem, but no one cares, as the internet exists
and as i said, i would pay, so if someone can do that simple job of a pro developer, you can contact me.
i bet someday some one will do this, i just want to boost this ! ;D
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
saywa said:
hacking anything without premission is illegal
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And we don't have permission from microsoft to do this
saywa said:
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
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It's better to send your enthusiasm to another direction. Looks like you can't even imagine how is it difficult.
Though mb after hundreds of years you'll achieve something.
Meh. A lot of the stuff that goes on XDA-Devs is illegal somewhere, often right here in the USA. So long as it doesn't really piss off the big companies or the government (and I mean *really* piss off, not "meh, they aren't worth the effort" grade of annoyance) though, it's usually fine. Keep it justifiably clean. For example, porting a free app from one OS to another - even without the developer's permission - seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you leave any in-app advertising intact.
I still don't understand why this is desired, though. The OP doesn't quite seem to understand that people are trying to help solve his or her problem. There's no need to get defensive. When I ask "why", it's not "you're an idiot for wanting this"; it's "this is hard and there's probably a better way to do whatever you're trying to do". So... there's a song. It's on the Xbox Music marketplace but not the Zune marketplace? That's weird, since so far as I've seen thus far they are completely identical right down to the top downloaded songs lists at any given time (meaning MS doesn't distinguish between them on the server side). Please actually explain what the problem is, if you want people to help you.
Frankly, I expect most of us see the Xbox Music app as crap and/or Win7 as legacy and boring. There are plenty of challenges in the new OS that are much more interesting; flattering our skills and offering the appeal of a challenge only works when people are looking for something to do. Personally, I would *much* rather spend my time trying to get Pidgin running on Windows RT (to replace the broken built-in messenger) than try to get the awful Xbox Music app running on an OS that I'm using less and less... and it's a more interesting challenge, too.
Oh, one more thing that people seem to forget a lot (especially the newcomers): XDA-Devs is a *developer* forum. It is not a "make my phone|tablet|PC|whatever really cool!" forum. Nor is it a feature request forum, a tech support forum, a ranting-and-raving forum, or a piracy forum. In fact, requesting most of those is against the forum rules to one degree or another. If you're posting a new thread in dev&hacking, you should be offering something you developed, a hack you found, or something else of that nature.
I'd like to point out that not all hacking is illegal.
If you do t know how to do it and know one seems enthused about, it seems you're SOL
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
Ok, keep me in the loop
Useless post of a useless guy
saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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It's not run of the mill JS and HTML, that part would be easy. The hard part is that that JS and HTML requires custom libraries that aren't present in Windows 7, and backporting them would be damn near impossible.
saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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you keep saying that we won't understand, just tell us rather than being all cryptic. Name the one reason that you need the xbox music app cause as GoodDayToDie said, the content is identical (I just checked myself) the only difference being that zune is much more useful.
EDIT: Would I be wrong in saying it is because you want the 30 day trial from xbox music rather than the 14 day trial you get in zune?
I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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It's not happening, you obviously don't have the skill, and any serious dev is just going to laugh at you. It would be an insane amount of work to do this, and I doubt that you have the budget to do it. Use the Zune app, upgrade to Windows 8, or go without. You obviously don't understand WinRT, and now you're just being an ass. The devs here do things on a voluntary basis and no one is going to help you when you're rude, and seemingly don't understand the vastness of what you're asking at all.
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Hi!
I have just seen this amazing program.
http://www.smithmicro.com/default.tpl?group=product_full&sku=QLMCWXX
To see photo, video and play music.
Bad news, we have to pay if we want to see it.
I am searching but...no free?
Do you like??
I want it!! free, of course.
$30? LOL
I'll wait until someone on this site codes a clone for free.
Nice stuff though.... but not nice enough to shell out $30.
well, you should brake into a car or someone's house and steal their phones. maybe someone has it on their device....
...so stupid.
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well, you should brake into a car or someone's house and steal their phones. maybe someone has it on their device....
...so stupid.
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It is pretty stupid that they don't offer a free trial download to try it out. I'm definitely not going to pay $30 for something that I don't even know what it's like. No thank you.
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It is pretty stupid that they don't offer a free trial download to try it out. I'm definitely not going to pay $30 for something that I don't even know what it's like. No thank you.
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Maybe its because they don't want people to rip off their product without paying for it.
WB
i don't know about this "revue software" and the description of what it does is not very clear to me, but i have tested another tool that does the same thing (i suppose. i'm french so my english is not perfect) named trakax on a htc vox and it seemed fairly good for a slow device (200 cpu) and non-tactile.
it should be very cool on a decent pdaphone with good cpu.
go here : http://www.trakax.com/software/mobile/
it costs 30 again, but you have a free demo to test it.
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Maybe its because they don't want people to rip off their product without paying for it.
WB
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How are they going to do business that way?...maybe they'll fix it up after requests come in
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How are they going to do business that way?...maybe they'll fix it up after requests come in
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I agree, it may be difficult, but when you see someone asking for a copy of a retail piece of software on here, insisting they have it for free, (as if that's a right), then find a near identical request on a warez site asking for the crack for the same software, its not difficult to see where that activity would lead to if we all took that stance.
WB
I don't have a problem paying for the apps that we use on our devices and i'm willing to pay a whole helluva' lot more but we should @ least have the trial option to see if it's worth it or even if its compatible with our devices. Most developers give you that trial because they stand by their product and they know it'll sell itself once the word gets out, so maybe them not giving a trial offer says something about their product. Just my opinion.
I've done trials of and loved:
Resco Exlorer
Memmaid
AEButton
Ultimate Launcher
Vito Screen Capture
Phone Weaver
...And paid for:
Resco
Memaid
AEButton
UL
Vito
Phone Weaver
It wouldn't even occur to me to use a cracked copy. Weird since I've used warez for some windows PC software, but being on a forum like this you see how the programmers are good people, just like me (only smarter) and it puts a face to the theft and I wouldn't consider doing it. Now I don't do cracked stuff for PC software either. I guess its part of growing up.
Anyway, I think there are a lot of ppl like me that if they like a trial they will be HAPPY to buy it.
I have just found this video!
Hi
I found a video of Revue.
It seems to be fantastic even with an application to manage the files with the PC!
http://my.smithmicro.com/wireless/revue/Revue324_121807_OffLn.wmv
I want to test this program for my HTC Touch, but I can´t download it from anywhere.
Anyone has this program?
Can you tell me if it is fast and useful?
Anyone knows where can I download Revue?
Thank YOU ALL
I just took a quick glance at the site you listed and looks like something I used to use on my Palm, I think you can use this for free, don't completely remember, but know I never paid for it. I remember now, you have to keep your pc online and you can access it for free, think that was the deal, and you had to pay to store your files online to access them while your pc was offline.
Anyway to the point its Avvenu, check it out.
Log Me In may be the same.
Caragato!!
Please NOT SPAM HERE!!!
So is this basically streaming media from your computer but with lots of organization options?
How is it not like Orb?
It is a finger friendly software just like iphone to see media on our pocketpc.
Hello.
I have a week to present my homework, an app for WM5/WM6.
Description:
Two screens.
Screen one: a Calendar showing one month and arrows to move to other months. And a button to take you to screen two.
Scrren two: a list of whatever (let say, accesories for X7501 currently on stock) that feeds of a DB. And a button to go back to screen one.
So basically is creating a DB (item, stock) and a calendar.
I would need you to give me:
1. The code with commentaries (*/this is the button to change month*/ etc).
2. Your paypal account
Who can do it? For how much?
Thanks!
dude that is so cheating. why you gonna pick building an app for wm if you dont even know how to build one.
Hello.
1. The teacher was not supposed to ask that of us.
2. I know how to make an app, but not that one. I can make basic stuff, like coin toss, dice roll, among other stuff. I could learn to program that, but I do not have time, I sleep like 4 hours a day... learning to do that would mean 10 hours.... I don't have 10 hours.
3. I'm not going to live by making apps for WM.
4. Somebody could use some extra dollars. And some might even enjoy building that.
I don't think it's such a bad Idea.
Well.... once again, any one can help me with that simple app?
Regards.
Maybe you should've started this a lot longer before the deadline? I can't really poke holes given that I had to do a 3 minute composition (for my music GCSE) in one night...
1. The teacher was not supposed to ask that of us.
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Then argue with them and point out they can't set work like that?
2. I know how to make an app, but not that one. I can make basic stuff, like coin toss, dice roll, among other stuff. I could learn to program that, but I do not have time, I sleep like 4 hours a day... learning to do that would mean 10 hours.... I don't have 10 hours.
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My first point is echoed... Maybe there is a reason for this work such as qualifications?
3. I'm not going to live by making apps for WM.
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Then why did you choose to do whatever it is that this needs to be done for?
4. Somebody could use some extra dollars. And some might even enjoy building that.
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I would do it, but it goes against the principal of exams/qualifications, and I couldn't anyway...
l3v5y:
It was set on wednesday 16.
And I have until monday 28th...
There's no "lot longer before deadline". If there is, it is now, we have time.
I'm not going to argue the other 4 points.
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All:
I'm asking for help, and expecting replies about "I can help" or "here's this links that will help" or a Private Message with something along those lines.
I know you can reply with "that's wrong", but could you please not obstaculize?
And could you please not reply with "it's better for you to learn" because it's not and you do not particularly care about me learning to build a DB or a calendar.
And it's not like I'm a greedy student who offers $5 or $10 USD. It's a job and it's better paid.
Once again.... anyone that might be kind enough to help?
Regards.
I'm curious as to how much you're willing to pay. A low-level code monkey can probably get $20/hr. You're better off looking at how tene implemented PCM calendar (or similar).
huh? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obstaculize
Sorry, English is not my first language.... I meant something like "not-help", not as much as deter, restrain, discourage... just like being an obstacale...
I'll prefer to let the programmer set the price for the job done, not by the hour of course... and then we'll talk about it.
But probably it will be way more than $20 per hour of real efficient work.
Go download eMbedded Visual Basic from the MS Website:
Not that I want to discourage developers getting money, but the fact is, the two things you are discussing (Forms and calendar) are already available as code samples in eMbedded Visual Basic. Most, if not all developers know this...
So basically, if your teacher doesn't understand that making this project is as simple as writing your own name, than it won't matter whether you cheat or not. Besides, you will still have to make the program yourself, even with the two code samples.
The calendar is called DateTimePicker
And from memory, the page sample is just called Form
Hope This Helps
This is just a Test to show you what i have made..if this is the kinda stuff you want..send me the details for the About page
NOTE : This requires Internet Connection to be activated before Starting the application
See attached
Jadel:
Well now there's some help. It actually got me started with the calendar and the app itself.
You can watch progress here http://www.tech-medellin.com/TempUploads/advance.wmv
Ather90:
And that's even better. More like I was hoping for, unfortunately I lost hope with first replies and started myself.
Any way, perhaps you could help me with accesories. I've watched what you did and it's great, but not what I'm looking for... although I could add it...
The teacher asked for a database stored in the app (not updatable nor modificable by user). A list must be created based on the DB. I would fill it with data (I actually sell devices and accesories)
Can you help with that? For how much?
Thanks!
im sorry but i dnt know a thing abt Databases
I will give you the source code..its coded in VS 2008 Pro
You can get some info abt Db here http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/
Thanks a lot!
I have almost finished my app.
Actually two of them I had forgotten there was a second one.
(sorry for not replaying until today)
Happy to hear it's alsmost done
Sorry I dnt know anythng about programming PPC.
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Thanks a lot!
I have almost finished my app.
Actually two of them I had forgotten there was a second one.
(sorry for not replaying until today)
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no probz..thnx to ur home work i actually learnt DB
well not completely..but i can import data from access
hope u get good marks
I thought it was common sense, but my buddy with a G1 was like "I didn't know you could do that!?"
OK... so... Go to MarketPlace, Menu key--My Downloads.... if it says installed, you're all good. If it says Install and is a program you HAVE installed? Click it. Will overwrite the old version automatically.
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
neoobs said:
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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Yeah, have heard it doesn't update that fast?
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Oh wow.. thanks! That's even worse!
Some apps (Twitdroid is a good example) alerts you if there's a new update; and most apps have contact details for the developer, so maybe drop them an email and ask for some auto update code to be added into your favourite apps? Bummer though, you still have to go into the market to update them.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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True, I suppose it is a matter of personal preference. Since I only have a half dozen apps installed on my G1, it's rather trivial to just check the download list. I balance that against having yet another app installed, not to mention having my app installation habits data-mined by aTrackdog.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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I am not a developer but can see a potential for an exploit on this maybe? Sending out info isn't ever really a good idea. Even if it's set to only send out this and that data, I have seen exploits take advantage of less.
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
aTrackDog work nice
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
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Actually it is an open source project. However project leaders have very broad discretion to guide the direction a project takes. A good example would be the Android Open Source Project.
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Yeah the average Googler received a $1000 holiday bonus last year.
wow 1000 dollar bonus... that is really good... but I understand why that is cut in half this year especially with the way the economy is.
Hi guy's
I've started a thread over at tvcatchup.com's forum to gather support for a windows mobile application or at least access to the tv streams that the iphone uses as they have a special portal that doesnt use flash.
Just wondered if it would be possible for you to show your interest in this thread too and bring tvcatchup.com to WM
Thanks
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Cant believe there arnt more people out there who want this working on WM!!, maybe its my fault for just making this post in the Leo section of the forum.
I've tried seting my user agent in Firefox to iphone 3.0 UA and managed to get the page to load where for bbc one it has this url
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/iphone_bbcone.sdp/playlist.m3u8?stream=bbcone
which downloads a playlist, if you open the playlist in notpad you get this
#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-STREAM-INFROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=100000
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/ip...t.m3u8?wowzasessionid=431120102&stream=bbcone
But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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It's the m3u8 file format that's the problem there. It's not something we can play on WM devices.
I've tried to sign up to the site so I can post words of encouragement and support on the thread, but it just keeps throwing an error, so i can't
Good luck with this - I'd love to see this on WM.
Surely the playlist just directs the iphone to some H.264 stream, Im sure something like coreplayer would be able to play that? but as you say the playlist doesnt open.
I tried renaming the .m3u8 to just .m3u (as that's what coreplayer recognises) but no luck after that,
Can I ask a mod to move this to a more appropriate section to get more exposure.
Thanks
made a post on tvcatchup thread. lets wait and see if they show any interest.
Well it looks like there's been a response from them
Their are 12 versions of Windows Mobile operateing system.
Id hate to guess how many different phones are useing the variaty of Os's.
Their are massive compatibility issues within each and every OS version and Mobile Phone Type.
iPhone was chosen as our first step onto the mobile market as their is ONE operateing system and specifications between each iPhone are the same. Its one of the most sold new phones on the market and its keep selling. It was highly feasible for an iphone application.
Windows Mobile on the other hand would be very complex. It would cost TVCatchup to develop such application, and we have not yet finished the iPhone which is in Beta.
One step at a time im afraid, we can not jump into every handset from day one.
If theirs a skilled windows mobile developer reading this that uses TVCatchup, we do have an API.
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No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Well it looks like there's been a response from them
No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Yep... i read that and replied also (im ukbreakbeat on there)
Come on XDA Devs... you know you want to get on this!
Cheers mate, I've contacted a certain dev on here with a well know tv app, hopefully they give him the goodies
Anyone know about any progress? Is FryWalker working on it?
He let me know he had been in contact with their lead developer, and that they were very helpful, I belive he's working on it
I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
Surely all that would be needed is a codec for core player to allow it to play the m3u8 playlist??
I have done a bit of sleuthing and there is a program called pocket player that claims to be able to play m3u8 files but I've had no luck with this so far.
I just use Skyfire to watch.. and it works fine. Looks perfect especially in landscape mode.
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile UK and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
inclement_weather said:
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
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I thought they were all on board for Fry to develop his MyPlayer app to include TV Catchup streams?
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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Hi - thanks for the tip - I checked around and had to change my DNS settings to a UK server then reinstall Skyfire so it'd pick up a UK farm. Done that and it connects fine !
Only thing (there's always something) is now that the picture is great but there's no audio - any ideas why no sound is coming through and if there's something I need to change ? I checked the IP settings and there's no compression set - not sure what else to check.
Thanks for any help,
Inclement
Karlos G said:
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
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Agree. Installed it last night, and it works albeit a bit choppy. I only tried it due to a dedicated iphone freak at work going on about tvcatchup, and that the HD2 can't do it. Can't wait to see him later
I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
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I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
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Unfortunately not and probably not for the foreseable future. Everyone is still waiting for NAND Android which appartantly was beleived that a fully working NAND ROM would be released near the end of September. Looks as tho its taking alot longer than they thought it would. However Android seem to be the main focus and not much is known about the development of WP7 on the HD2 apart from somebody has done it but it can't be released yet probably not much is working on it so just keep looking out every week or so as It won't be out anytime soon
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
No.
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why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
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for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
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1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
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never needed
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2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
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i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
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3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
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pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
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4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
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dont care
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5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
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dont care
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6. BT functionality is limited.
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dont care
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for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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tHUS,
We DONT CARE
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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Firstly visit www.htc.com and make sure you're running the latest ROM.
Then install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it's available via the MS market place as a free trial.
Also install S2P, it's a great music player which you can direct to monitor specific folders rather than adding every mp3 on your phone. Also re-size or replace your album art to 480x480 as it can take advantage of this.
I've done the above and have a fast, efficient and most importantly, stable Leo.
You can give it a go for no more than what? 30 minutes of your life? Do it next time you're sat on the toilet.
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
just because you don't need it does not mean it is not a significant shortcoming
you have issues if you can't use copy and paste (you know something that has been a staple of windows since it's inception over 25 years ago)
no way to change the UI to your liking? YAY! I get the same crappy look as everyone else..
Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
BT file transfer something from your friend's phone to yours? Opps you are SOL.....
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fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
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Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
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Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
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That's exactly the point... it's down to the developers to correctly code their apps to save state when required. That means Microsoft have put in place a way to handle multiple applications being used asynchronously.
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
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why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
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7. It will rape your SD card. WP7 actually uses the "secure" in secure digital.
Callumpy said:
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
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Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
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I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
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I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
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Yeah, I do agree that a lot goes on when you run something. There's always some transition or other taking place, and I can see that this would annoy some people instantly, and everyone else eventually. I didn't dig around looking for any customisation options for the UI, so I don't know if it can be tidied up in any way (like Android's animation options in display settings).
The HTC stuff was way more excessive than just regular apps though. Totally!
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Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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Holy crap, that sucks. Time to save up for a HD7 then.
This thread makes good points. I can now say I can wait for WP7.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
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If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
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Think of it like xbox live on the 360 with the hacked firmwares. The chefs can do as much as they like to keep spoofing the phones so users will be able to use Zune, Windows Live, Xbox Live and other cloud services but either way Microsoft are not stupid and will keep putting a stop to it it will be short lived attempts. I would like WP7 on my HD2 myself but you have to be realistic MS have worked on a new OS and they will want to protect their new investment. IF WP7 is ported i'm pretty sure we wont have the online features for long and if anything WP7 on the HD2 will be more of a ZUNE player (offline). Don't compare the iPhone to the HD2 the iPhone is jailbroken to make use of the features it "has" this is a totally different kettle of fish porting an OS then expecting full features.
about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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How is a desktop/Laptop/Netbook/Tablet operating system anything like an OS for a smartphone that is locked to hardware and tied with a private key to the software. I've not said they won't get it running no doubt they will get the OS to run but the key features probally not be something that will be avaliable (online).