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[POLL] Stock vs tablet workspace

I would like to start this to see how many people use tablet workspace since it seems only a few roms seem to be embracing this. Please state what rom you are using and what you use to trigger tablet mode.
I am using PA 2.1.1 with small tab ui
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Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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PA 2.1 tablet ui (mid).
Don't like roms that shrink the nav bar too much either!

E_Goldstein said:
Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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I'm using tablet ui, liking it a lot
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Stock, rooted 4.1.1 here.
Used the local.prop DPI setting to get it into tablet mode and use the app "Set Orientation" to force the last remains (like lockscreen) into landscape for total tablet experience to my likes
Also I'm using GoLauncherEx, which works fine for me landscaped.

Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks. IMHO only sgt7 and PA are the only seamless roms that do this well. PA also lets you choose the navbar height independently.
Personally I would never run phabletUI on my tablet. That sounds funny
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PA 2.1 Phablet mode!!
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Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks.
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I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine

Running PA 2.1 full tablet and loving it.
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HellcatDroid said:
I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine
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It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
Of course I could have messed something up and yours could be fine.
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xopher.hunter said:
It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
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About the apps, maybe I just got lucky so far and the ones I use on my N/ don't set the compatibility stuff in the way that makes them appear to be incompatible with the N7.
About the copy/paste bar, I just tried and yes, it's "gone" like you say.
But I use GoKeyboard and that has copy/paste buttons as well, so I can live with that for now

How much would you miss tablet UI?

Apparently it's going. I will really miss it. I don't think there is any need for two thick black bars on a 7 inch device. I like having the extra space and I like the aesthetics of the tablet UI, especially with a reduced nav bar. I don't know why they are removing tablet UI and if the devs can do anything about it. I hope they can! Will you miss it too or is it just me?
Edit: Turns out it's just a rumour, phew!

Most will miss the 10" tablet UI but honestly, I don't expect that I will. The centered buttons are not that big a deal and the "Odd" way the Nexus 7's notification system lurks around, unobtrusive enough that I probably won't care.
I will be more interested in things like Miracast support and web browsing performance than I will be in the UI changes.
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StrangerWeather said:
Apparently it's going. I will really miss it. I don't think there is any need for two thick black bars on a 7 inch device. I like having the extra space and I like the aesthetics of the tablet UI, especially with a reduced nav bar. I don't know why they are removing tablet UI and if the devs can do anything about it. I hope they can! Will you miss it too or is it just me?
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There are a bunch of ROMs with tablet UI actually. I'm using smooth ROM with it and its irreplaceable

I know, I'm on PA, but once the update kicks in the ROMs won't have tablet UI. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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I will miss it alot. I do not see why they would get rid of something like that.
Btw where did you see it was removed and are we talking about the 4.2 update?
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I thought I would hate it when I first saw it
But honestly, I like it. I was forced to use it for the first month before I rooted my n7, and I got used to it. Then I installed a tabui ROM and imo it doesn't work properly on a 7 inch screen. I know a lot will disagree but I am just sayin
I use the normal phone ui now, its just more consistent and easier to use for me. If I want more screen space, I will remove the bars with 'expand desktop' on the ROMs I use
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Devs will port it over it's not going anywhere
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DirtyShroomz said:
Devs will port it over it's not going anywhere
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things i hate about standard nexus 7 UI
no quick access to brightness. in tablet UI i can quickly tap the time in lower left hand corner and adjust brightness on the fly.. cant do that with nexus 7 UI
i hate how i dont get Tablet APPs and instead get the phone app for youtube gmail etc..
those are the only things that make me to to tablet ui..
if i could have quick access to Brightness AND native tablet youtube and gmail apps in the standard nexus 7 UI then id be fine.
i really do love the expanded youtube app in tablet UI 4 nice rows in portrait mode compared to phone youtube app. yuck.

Yea the tablet mode is supreme. If it doesn't "work" right then it isn't implemented right. EOS has it so stupidly simple that it is a godsend. You can enable/disable it on the fly and it doesn't screw with your other apps. Just combines the bars into 1.
The notification pulldown menu on the stock UI is horrible. Needs fullscreen or something. Looks tacked on like an afterthought.
I will be disappointed once 4.2 hits and it goes away. Remember tablet UI has to be present to unlock it. Google may remove it completely to streamline their OSs.
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player911 said:
Yea the tablet mode is supreme. If it doesn't "work" right then it isn't implemented right. EOS has it so stupidly simple that it is a godsend. You can enable/disable it on the fly and it doesn't screw with your other apps. Just combines the bars into 1.
The notification pulldown menu on the stock UI is horrible. Needs fullscreen or something. Looks tacked on like an afterthought.
I will be disappointed once 4.2 hits and it goes away. Remember tablet UI has to be present to unlock it. Google may remove it completely to streamline their OSs.
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Someone somewhere will find a way...
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xopher.hunter said:
I will miss it alot. I do not see why they would get rid of something like that.
Btw where did you see it was removed and are we talking about the 4.2 update?
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Yes, apparently the update doesn't allow for tablet UI. I read about it over on the PA thread.
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StrangerWeather said:
Yes, apparently the update doesn't allow for tablet UI. I read about it over on the PA thread.
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Link?
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It's all over the place in the ROMs threads but there is a discussion kinda starting here in the PA thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33692765 . Reading this again there seems to be some uncertainty about it. So that's something I guess...
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No one knows what Google have done with the code and the xml layouts until they release 4.2 sources. Until then your guess is as good as mine.
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[Q] Extend Wallpaper under Status Bar and Softkeys?

Is there any means to extend the wallpaper underneath the Status Bar and Softkeys? I dislike the black banding, especially under the Softkeys. I know Paranoid Android does this but one reason I bought a Nexus was to get out of ROMs--plus I'd rather not waste space on ROM backups.
I have root and the willingness to muck about in the system APKs.

Bump.

Just wait for any expert to make a mod
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yangkwong said:
Just wait for any expert to make a mod
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Or, I could ask and see if any developer who already knows how this is done in Paranoid Android will tell me.

I would like to do this as well... is it possible without a custom ROM?

it needs framework modifications, but mods exist. evilisto made one if i remember that right.
i dunno why you would want one over a rom though. makes no sense. roms on nexus base on aosp and official vendors blobs. what you get is stock android plus features. you cannot compare it to roms on legacy devices which emulate android, need hacks and exploits.
ps. PA has per app coloring. this goes way past simple transparent bar on the homescreen.

PA??
ps. PA has per app coloring. this goes way past simple transparent bar on the homescreen.
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Not 100% sure (still waiting for delivery of my N4) but doesn't the XYLON ROM do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046968
VertigoM said:
I would like to do this as well... is it possible without a custom ROM?
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Elchemist said:
Not 100% sure (still waiting for delivery of my N4) but doesn't the XYLON ROM do this?
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heck no. pa is a playground for features you havent seen or known before, like hybrid engine. you wont find it anywhere else.

Android 4.2.....

Hey I know were all just enjoying our JB updates right now, but It cant hurt to start a thread about android 4.2
well as the rumors are flying around about a Galaxy Note 8 with android 4.2 I gotta say we wont get 4.2 for some time
samsung will more than likely market the 8 inch tablet with 4.2 for quite a few months before updating the 10.1
but lets all chat about it

I'm happy as is. The exploit is fixed, the tab is flying. Unless 4.2 brings something extraordinary to the table I am happy to stay on 4.1.2

I hate the new separate navbar and statusbar: a waste of screen real estate and the location of the nav buttons is not reachable with the thumbs. That being said I hope I receive my 4.1.2 update soon cuz i'm still on ICS

The old saying, "Be careful what you wish for . . ." applies here. There are a number of known issues with 4.2, not the least of which is that bluetooth is broken for the time being. You might want to read this article, it will temper your desire to get 4.2 before some of these bugs are fixed.

Oh to hell with 4.2, I don't want a phone UI.

I do want multiuser, though the rest doesn't really matter.
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Key Lime Pie will probably be announced in May so we should just wait for that xD. 4.2 is like ICS from GB while JB is out; might as well skip it.

Doesnt 4.2 have miracast. I want that instead of allshare for sure

I agree. Tablet is running great, but I wouldn't mind seeing these features on the note 10.1...centrally located home buttons and top drag down menus. They would be so very helpful when using the s-pen to write notes.
Perhaps a future ROM...
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We better hope for a custom ROM based on stock with 4.2 features
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gekyfela said:
We better hope for a custom ROM based on stock with 4.2 features
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Id say thats about the only way we will get it however I am unsure if im willing to flash this tablet in the near future. I have several devices and have custom roms on all but this one and have come to know custom roms are buggy or lose certain functions for a long time before they get sorted out. Stock rom (except voip) works so well on this tablet when overclocked with tegrak that im unwilling to live with many bugs at all.

id10terrordfw said:
I do want multiuser, though the rest doesn't really matter.
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Riki1kenobi said:
I'm happy as is. The exploit is fixed, the tab is flying. Unless 4.2 brings something extraordinary to the table I am happy to stay on 4.1.2
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What You Said.

JellyBean (4.1.x) differs from ICS (4.0.x) in various ways, one of them is the default app picker.
The "new" AppPicker requires two taps to run an app: one tap on the selected application and one tap on "Use Once" button, while in ICS one tap was enough. It was worked-around by Google in JB 4.2.x by adding a "doubletap" feature: just tap again on selected app to use it once.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/threads/doubletap-in-apppicker.5523/

id10terrordfw said:
I do want multiuser, though the rest doesn't really matter.
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Jelly bean has multiple users function see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960908
Although I tried and your Google account and stuff is still available under the other user account making it usless ? So either its implemented different or there is a missing step... i had 4.1.2 cm on my acer a500 with users feature and it worked great. Separate apps, google account etc...
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Full 4.4 KitKat experience

Hi there,
I recently purchased my nexus 7. I used to have an XDA account from years ago.
Basically, tonight I installed the AOSP ROM released for the nexus 7 on rootzwiki forums and I found that it had the normal launcher so it seemed like a jelly bean ROM with a white theme to it. Since then I discovered I was able to download and install Google Home and that enabled me to use the new UI with the transparent status bar and nav bar. So far I like it a lot. Its quite stable with a few bugs and it will get better.
And a video on YouTube of the ROM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8cRaxw7e1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Partially working Gapps http://d-h.st/EIM

I would add screenshots but the xda app doesn't let me
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The keyboard comes out when going to home
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.

carbon dioxide said:
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.
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Nope, haven't been able to find out how to either. And for me landscape mode messes up icon labels for me
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carbon dioxide said:
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.
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I believe it's the launcher. As you can see, the Search Bar is out of place too, I have the Google Experience launcher on my n4, and it doesn't look like that. I believe this launcher wasn't N7.2 ready.

qwahchees said:
I believe it's the launcher. As you can see, the Search Bar is out of place too, I have the Google Experience launcher on my n4, and it doesn't look like that. I believe this launcher wasn't N7.2 ready.
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Nope its not, it is the one from the nexus 5 system dump.
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That's why I'm waiting for the official release for Nexus 7 :victory:

NekroWolfen said:
That's why I'm waiting for the official release for Nexus 7 :victory:
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That's exactly what I am waiting for as well. As much as I want to flash a 4.4 ROM, I'm just gonna patiently wait for an official release....can't wait!!!
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