[Q] Nexus 4 vs ipod touch - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay, setting aside the giant question as to when they will become available again, I'm considering a Nexus 4 for my daughter. She's about to turn 10 and my wife and I have been talking about getting her an ipod touch (5th gen) for Christmas.
But...we're an android family. My wife uses an Asus TF700, I have a Nexus 7, we both have android phones and my daughter currently uses my old Nook Color with CM10 on it to read and play games.
The N4 looks awful attractive to me, not just because of the familiarity and obvious ecosystem, but it would also lend itself to an easy transition to an actual cell phone if we decide to make that move.
Now, obviously, it won't take much to talk myself into the N4. But I'm wondering if you folks can offer me a little more subjective opinions than my own.
Thanks!

If she needs a phone, go for it. If not, still go for it!
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She doesn't need a phone...yet. That's part of the attraction of the N4 to me. For now, just an ipod-ish device.
One big question - the i-devices have imessaging and such for texting. What is a suitable equivalent for android?

I heard the screens crack stupid easy. Some exploding in pockets without pressure to the screen at all.
I wouldn't want any glass pieces cutting anyone. Since shes 10. it's going to happen. Heck. I've broken a lot of glass things up till i was 14. LOL.
TBH I think ipod touch is a better choice. it's super easy to use and has ton of kid apps.
I don't think anyone under 16 should have an cell phone. But i'm not the one to judge.
KIK is one. You can't message anyone on a computer but it's free on the app store any you just need wifi to send anyone with the app an message. The app is on both play store and apple app store.

If you want go on the cheaper side, it's hard to beat a used $50 Nexus S with its Wolfson DAC as a dedicated PMP.
The Nexus 4 would work though, especially if it's cheaper than the iPod touch and you're an Android family with no existing tie to the apple/iTunes ecosystem. There will be a learning curve but you can set things up for her to make it easier.

Just buy a refurbished iPod Touch 4th gen direct from Apple. $129 for the 8GB and $179 for the 32GB. They carry the same warranty (1-year) as a new one. Only difference is that the box they come in is different than retail markings. Come with ear buds and everything else a new one comes with. They dropped the price within the last week and knocked another $30 off the 32GB to get them to $179. I don't know what the price was before on the 8GB, but they don't hold too much stuff once the kids start downloading apps and taking pictures, so went with the 32 GB for two of our kids.
I've got a split house as the younger kids all want iPod Touches while the older ones hoping for a S3. I'm still waiting on an N4, but sounds like it will be an after Christmas purchase if Google ever gets them back in stock.

I think that she would be beter with an iPod touch new or old version it doesn't matter. It is a trend to have an Apple product for the younger generation and they spend more time listening to music. I don't know what the battery life is for the two devices but it would seem like the iPod touch would last longer listening to music than the Nexus 4. But if she is in need of a phone then I would tell you to get something else that is more durable that doesn't involve glass for her own safety. Being 10 years old before, I was not super careful :laugh:

IMHO don't go for the ipod touch. A 32GB itouch costs $299 while an 8GB Nexus 4 costs $299 also. However the N4 completely blows it away by its spec-wise. I know the itouch has 32GB memory but I doubt your daughter will ever come close to filling up that space, she's 10. Your daughter will probably be happier with the N4 due to its better camera, bigger screen, and the fact that she has an android device like everyone else. And in a few years, you can easily add a sim card and give her a phone.

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Returned my Nexus S

Returned my unlocked Nexus S, connectivity is the biggest issue with it then screen response and freezing.
I compromised on the desireble specs to buy Nexus S only coz Google put their stamp on it. I seriously dont understand why Google will pick Samsung (is it the super AMOLED display or something else). HTC has far better workmanship n service compared to Samsung -they r in such a rush to inundate the market with phones that their is no quality control or post sales service.
Ley me put it this way I'm never gonna buy Samsung phone again. Bought 3 of their flagship best phones in last 3 years n let down all 3 times
1. Samsung Omnia when it came out from Europe $ 600
2. Samsung i8910 (first with Amloed Display) again form europe for $700
3. Nexus S $571
I've used samrtphone for last 12 year from Palm 180 to everything, and i would say Samsung are the worst.
Back to my Nexus 1 n wating eagrly for upgrade.
Opinions are like assholes...
...Everyone has one LOL
... and their full of sh#t!
Seriously tho does anyone even give a damn about these "I h8 NS!" threads besides the trolls?
Samsung is doing a fine job manuacturing their phones, I'm glad I don't have to deal with TouchPiss anymore.
Google probably went with Samsung over HTC because:
- They use the Hummingbird processor, HTC doesn't.
- They're the only ones with Super AMOLED technology.
- HTC is getting their pants sued off by Apple.
- Google is trying to diversify.
- Contractual/agreement issues, who knows.
- Maybe HTC didn't want to parter again in the first place.
i am glad Google went with Samsung this time. People who own Nexus One know that the touchpad that HTC used was a ****ing fiasco. Also, this is my biggest pet peeve virtually on all HTC phones they use the crappiest quality speakers.
Sounds like the OP needs to look up the definition of "insanity" with regards to his repeated purchases of Samsung products.
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I'll have to say the speaker quality on this Samsung is far better than the one on my G1. The touch screen is much more responsive than on the G1 and registers better. Of course it is a million times faster than the G1. Also, I don't need to root and modify the hell out of just to make it work remotely close to other phones.
I am impressed do far.
Only complaints, no LED notifications (knew this going in), and my wireless signal is weaker on this phone than it was on my G1 or any other wireless device in my house. Not sure what's up with that. Also, that it doesn't take advantage of T-Mobiles HSPA+. I knew this as well going in.
I don't do much mobile browsing anyway, but do like to show of videos with friends and that can be a downside. Though T-Mobile is as much to blame as a manufacturer not supporting it (read T-Mobile just sucks sometimes).
Good for you that you returned your Nexus S. Thanks for sharing. Now move on to a different forum. Or do you require some counseling for your loss?
I went from rooting the Nook color, got hooked on Android, and then bought the Nexus S. I couldn't be happier. Pure Google! Customize! No cell carrier branding! 2.3! Oh no, they have a quad core with a kitchen sink plug in, I must return my Nexus S!
Take care all. Looking forward to all the mods and roms.
Perhaps somebody should start a "I'm not returning my Nexus S, I'm perfectly happy with it" thread....
only 2 sensible posts thanks rashad1 & geitl.
N rest of the guys you ppl are amzing read wht u ppl write with such love n care for another forum member.
I probably would have used more smart phones than all of u put together.
anyway i am realy amazed at the hostility these newbe xda memebers show
To be honest, I have less issues with built quality on my vibrant then on nexus one. Although, I've been reading that curved class sucks on ns
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To be honest, I have less issues with built quality on my vibrant then on nexus one. Although, I've been reading that curved class sucks on ns
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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I definitely notice the curve, and I love showing it off.
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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I guess its just cool, technicaly its made to match shape of ur face and more comfortable to talk on, but this is bs. The problem is that its not Gorrila, would I take flat Gorrila vs curved glass, yes of course because Gorrila actually serves a purpose
kapur_deepak said:
Returned my unlocked Nexus S, connectivity is the biggest issue with it then screen response and freezing.
I compromised on the desireble specs to buy Nexus S only coz Google put their stamp on it. I seriously dont understand why Google will pick Samsung (is it the super AMOLED display or something else). HTC has far better workmanship n service compared to Samsung -they r in such a rush to inundate the market with phones that their is no quality control or post sales service.
Ley me put it this way I'm never gonna buy Samsung phone again. Bought 3 of their flagship best phones in last 3 years n let down all 3 times
1. Samsung Omnia when it came out from Europe $ 600
2. Samsung i8910 (first with Amloed Display) again form europe for $700
3. Nexus S $571
I've used samrtphone for last 12 year from Palm 180 to everything, and i would say Samsung are the worst.
Back to my Nexus 1 n wating eagrly for upgrade.
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Wouldn't it be more helpful if, in the middle of your rant, you explained WHY you thought that the Nexus S let you down?
I'm interested, especially since mine is arriving in 2 days time...
I have to agree. The ONLY thing I don't like about my Nexus S is that I'll have to put a screen protector on it because it doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
I wish they'd saved whatever cash they spent creating curved glass and just used Gorilla Glass instead.
I have Nexus S as well as Desire HD and I can tell you signal strength is far better on the Nexus S. HTC have shocking antenna problems on every Android. Still love the HD but the Nexus poops all over it.
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Belarios said:
I have to agree. The ONLY thing I don't like about my Nexus S is that I'll have to put a screen protector on it because it doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
I wish they'd saved whatever cash they spent creating curved glass and just used Gorilla Glass instead.
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U still need screen protector on Gorrila. It CAN get scratched, I suppose its just more crack resistant

Do u like sd card dongles?

I dont like how a dongle hangs from my tab. Its so big and bulky.
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I hate it. First it won't power a usb hd. Secondly it fits flimsily of the the unit. Lastly you can't charge the tablet while using the dongle. Bad waste of $20 for me.
The price we pay for thinnest and lightest tablet on the market.
All other tablets that offer that in the unit are hit with a thickness and weight penalty. Ill take "add it when you need it" any day.
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Why bother carrying adapter and sd card altogether? I am doing necessary transfers while I'm at home or office. Titanium backup if you are rooted. I like the adapter, I use my 10 years old MS joypad with it.
yes, the lightest with a plastic backplate. an ipad2 would beat it if they would use cheap solutions
for me, even the ipad2 is to thin. thin is only good for children, else it feels uncomfortable to hold.
for an open source device appropriate ports are a joke. what's the point in using android if they reduce everything to an ipad? they gave away one of the biggest advantages and maybe the decision between ipad and 10.1
at the moment the ipad2 has tripple the value (software) per $
Why not Ipad? Because it is Apple! The company which sold computers for people with low IQ's at outrageous prices for the last 3 decades. Still using the cheapest possible cameras in Ipads. You cannot buy an Apple product, you just rent it for 2 full computer prices. Dont let me start with Ipods...
... and whats the point of your argument in a Samsung USB adapter thread?
dcc22 said:
yes, the lightest with a plastic backplate. an ipad2 would beat it if they would use cheap solutions
for me, even the ipad2 is to thin. thin is only good for children, else it feels uncomfortable to hold.
for an open source device appropriate ports are a joke. what's the point in using android if they reduce everything to an ipad? they gave away one of the biggest advantages and maybe the decision between ipad and 10.1
at the moment the ipad2 has tripple the value (software) per $
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You sir, need to trade in your android devices to get your very own 'sheeple decoder ring'... Then you can go drink more of the apple coolaid
if the ipad2 did not have 4:3 ratio and require my installing of itunes (thus breaking a 22 year long run of not doing so) i would have gotten it over the SGT
basically yea if it wasnt made by apple i wouldve gotten

Build Quality: NAH!

This is my 5th Android tablet. The first Transformer had gone directly back to Best Buy due to terrible light bleed. Transformer Prime sold in a month. It had its obvious problems plus a screen problem: when you press a little harder on the right side of the screen it would flicker into white. Probably a faulty one. This is my 3d transformer and it is not that impressive. Surprisingly there is no light bleed at all, but the Prime was much better in every way. I sense and hear a squeaky sound when I press the right side of the back camera just under the power button as though it was not fitted well. I pressed all the sides and corners of the tablet, only this spot gives that sound. There is an emptiness there. It really is annoying. I still think I will keep it but wait for the new Samsung. MY GTAB 7 and 10.1 were also made with plastic but they were sturdier and far better in build quality. Asus keeps disappointing me.
Cool story bro.
Perhaps your expectations doesn't match the design specs and price tag of this machine? To me it seems they opted for better guts then exterior and screen.
Thats very true. ASUS wanted to give a nice device to those who couldn't meet the price tag. Everything comes at a cost, this tablet is plastic :T
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Firstly, I am not quite sure why anyone would want to press the back right side of the tablet next to the back camera? If it squeaks, don't press it, no function on this tablet requires that part pressed, nor is it near anywhere near where one would hold it.
This is my 3rd tablet as well.
First, I had a Prime. I disagree the Prime was better in every way. No GPS, poor wifi signal, micro sd card slot poorly placed so the card kept popping out, micro hdmi port was loose - cable kept coming unplugged. Is the prime sexier, sure, but the aforementioned problems made it quite non-functional.
Second I had an Acer A510. Great tablet, just a bit bulky and had a terrible heat problem where the back of the tablet would reach over 100 degrees when 3D gaming...could not hold it anymore it was so hot. Also, due to low sales volumes, the tablet does not have much developer support, still don't have their own forum with similar launch date to this tablet.
I have had none of these problems on my TF300, it works amazingly well. I actually don't mind the plastic, it is comfortable to hold, and looks much better than I thought it would. The sound is great for a tablet, I had the a510 and believe this is comparable, even without the speaker separation. Is this tablet perfect, no: Battery life could be better and they could have used Gorilla glass, but those are minor nuisances compared to what I have dealt with on my other 2 two tablets and I don't think any tablet is perfect. I am not a budget buyer and purchased this tablet originally to check it out, but it is so good compared to anything else I have used, I plan to keep it and enjoy it.
I did press to get it out from its keyboard dock. Thats how I realized it was not fitted well. Do we really have to accept something with its flaws because it is cheaper? ASUS is a brand name I respect. I had more than 6 laptops, netbooks and now an ultrabook which I LOVE!!!! But we have to accept that Asus is less attentive when it comes to Android. We will see how they will try hard this fall or next year with their Windows 8 tablets and stuff.
I honestly think the build quality is great with the 399 price tag. I have no issues with light bleeding, creaking or loose parts. So far my experience is great and have no complaints.
Love my tab after unlocking and installing cm9. How much more could you ask for with a guad core processor and 399.99 price tag for a 32 gb! all the tablets I see are dual core for 399.99 for 16gb.
Asus, in my opinion gave us a budget tablet and then some. The realm of this tablet was to cut cost so everyone could afford Tegra 3 without buying a 700$ unit. I love my tablet
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Great, cheap, tablet.
Always fun to see how people can differ.
Some like the building quality and others think everything is cr*p. I think this is purely what you expect of it and what you want to spend. If you buy an IPad it is not comparable to a Asus because as the manufacturer is different the buildingprocess is different.
I think you (the topicstarter) just want to get a almost undestructible tablet. But tablets are just fragile and if you have a technical problem with one you just bring it back to the shop because you have warrenty.
At this point in time there is no better tablet to buy, yes i had the cash to get a prime, but i need good wifi coverage, which the prime has not, so i bought this one. I don't want older technology , and surely not at the same price (all other tabs are dual core at maximum)
I just didnt feel the thrill I felt when I held my Samsung 10.1 for the first time or even the TR Prime. TR Prime just for a couple of days.... But I agree with most views here. It is a very good tablet for its price. I like the battery usage. I havent charged it for more than 2 days now. Unnoticeable light bleed, etc... Just that squeaky sound
BTW. No Riptide onboard was a bum!
I think mine is fine, besides some uncomfortable cracking I tend to hear with the keyboard dock. Then again, I was not very impressed by my Asus laptop in terms of build quality either. I feel weird buying another Asus product after that laptop but there is nothing else that compares as far as I am concerned when it comes to tablets. I deal with it.
Well I was greeted with a busted pixel upon opening package still gave a try then started to have small bleed then by third week serious bleed, then when I hold on certain spots in landscape and portrait at different angles I get this blur like bleed as if im pressing to hard felt like if I held any looser I would drop it, also can barely see in the sun light other than that it works like heaven which really bugs me because I want it but dont believe it will last so im sending back and waiting for the reviews for the 700 when it releases after atleast a month has passed till then I will be pad less...........
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Well I was greeted with a busted pixel upon opening package still gave a try then started to have small bleed then by third week serious bleed, then when I hold on certain spots in landscape and portrait at different angles I get this blur like bleed as if im pressing to hard felt like if I held any looser I would drop it, also can barely see in the sun light other than that it works like heaven which really bugs me because I want it but dont believe it will last so im sending back and waiting for the reviews for the 700 when it releases after atleast a month has passed till then I will be pad less...........
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I have none of those problems. You must have a defective unit, try exchanging for another one before final judgment.
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I honestly love this pad but I see im not the only one experiencing this only bought this because the wifi issue with prime if the 700 solves this without a dongle with a better and brighter screen then I will get that one instead. I have a good relationship with amazon hate returning things multiple times I dont want to take another risk but you guys got a great pad for the price that is if you got a good one. Im gonna miss this pad but im hoping the 700 is worth the wait?????
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At this point in time there is no better tablet to buy, yes i had the cash to get a prime, but i need good wifi coverage, which the prime has not, so i bought this one. I don't want older technology , and surely not at the same price (all other tabs are dual core at maximum)
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You nailed it! The only other tablets to compare to this one is the prime (poor GPS and wifi at $500) and the Acer a510 (no keyboard dock, overheat issues stalled sales at $450) and the Toshiba excite( screen issues, OS issues for I think $500- $550).
NO BRAINER to me.
Even if I dont thing 400 is cheap, it is a very good Pad. I dont have any dead pixels and not one other Problem. Wifi is is even better than my last tablet (Hannspad ). Would recommend it at any time.
The 300 is pretty much built the same way as the 101 plastic back..

Proud New Owner (Shield Tablet from Nexus 7 2013))

I got mine Shield Tablet on Saturday, at the Gamestop in PalmBay, FL (Closest Place that had them in stock). They had 2 remaining in stock after I got mine. They did not have the cover or controller.
Mine is replacing a Nexus 7 (2013). The lack of an SD Card slot in the Nexus was really bugging me.
The Shield tablet's front-facing ported speakers are also very noticeably better.
I also find it amazing how much easier it is to see the screen (I wear reading glasses), despite the fact that there is not that much difference in size. I need to see if the DPI set lower in build.prop.
The only thing I miss is Near-Field, and that is more appropriate to have on a phone, so it is no big omission, but I guess it means no more tap-to-pay for me until I get a new phone.
The Nexus 7 was definitely a "Settle-for" when I bought it, because I could not find anything that met my requirements, but the Shield does meet all of them:
-- Standard USB charging
-- 8 inch tablet with a worthy resolution
-- Front facing stereo speakers
-- Standard ports and slots
(There was a Chinese Tablet that met the specs: The FNF iFive X2, it was also cheaper, but I was a little worried about the firmware, and firmware updates on a tablet like that.)
I also got 20% off on the Nexus 7, so I went for it at the time.
To be clear, IMHO, the Shield Tablet would not be worth $115 more than the Nexus 7 ($229 - 20% = $185 vs $299) (if you can get one at that price), but at the same time, I think it is worth $70 more --- It's that close.
Ironically, the Nexus 7 will now be used for Gaming, and the Shield is my "Work Tablet".
More details comparing the 2 if anyone is interested.
Small world. I bought mine at the same place on Saturday also. I went in Friday night and they had 3. I wanted to see it in person but they didn't have a display up. I decided to sleep on it as I'm replacing my aging Nexus 10 and was concerned about the size. Saturday I decided to go for it so I actually called GS to hold one for me. By the time I got there, the other two were gone and I got the last one. So far I'm very pleased with it. Just waiting on a controller to round out. Performance of this thing is unbelievable! Getting used to its size and almost makes my N10 feel bulky in comparison. Good purchase!
Wow! Yeah, it is a small planet.
I was in Best Buy on Friday night, and the salesman said that they were not going to get them until October. He said that 8 people a day were asking for them.
That's when I called GS, and... we both know the story. If one was on hold for you, and another must have sold shortly after I got mine, I guess it was lucky that I got there fairly early.
Picked mine up at the microcenter in minneapolis while on vacation. LOVE that tablet. Only gripe is that x-com doesn't work on it. Crashes as soon as you try to start a game.

Why did you choose the Pixel 4 over the Pixel 4 XL?

I'm honestly on the fence..
I pre-ordered a Pixel 4 but am second guessing myself so I am curious to hear your thoughts about order the P4 rather than the P4XL.
I'm mostly worried about battery life and quite honestly the Pixel 3 felt just a tad small in the hand when I owned it.
I think my dream size would be the full size of a Galaxy S10, but that's another story..
Anyway.. help solidify my choice.
Why did you choose the Pixel 4 over the Pixel 4 XL?
I have a Pixel 3XL and I ordered a P4XL but then I cancelled and ordered a standard P4. When I bought the 3XL I was doubtful because of the dimensions but then the screen and other things convinced me. After a while my wife got a P3, the other day I realized that the screen of the P4 is slightly bigger than the 3 while keeping the same phone dimensions. I played a bit with the P3 and when I got back to my XL...well it felt huge while the 3 was fine and with the 5.7" would be almost perfect for me.
With the time I got quite ok with the XL volume but I have to admit that generally it's not really comfortable to carry and manage, it's "bareable".
Just hope the P4 battery is fine.
I just like a normal sized phone. I've always felt the Nexus 5X was like the perfect size for a phone. I like to be able to use my phone one handed a lot of the time and I can barely do that with my current phone. The Pixel 4 is shorter than my G7 and thinner (width-wise) as well. The XL is attractive only because of the larger battery but I prioritize ergonomics over that.
I've held the xl, I have small hands, I couldn't operate it with one hand effectively. I felt like I was going to drop it constantly. The regular pixel is perfect.
I really want the Pixel 4 over the XL. I currently have a Note 9, but it's just way too big for my hands to use comfortably, the XL is pretty much the same size as this. I'm just really worried about that small battery in the Pixel 4, otherwise I don't really have any complaints about it. I don't care that it can be unlocked with my eyes closed, that's a non-issue to me. 64GB is more than enough for my apps as I store my photos and videos online and losing unlimited original quality upload is also a non-issue for me. But that battery... ?? I hope they've worked some sort of magic into this Pixel Neural Core for better battery life, otherwise 2800mah just isn't going to cut it
It's the closest phone to the Moto X that I can get in 2019.
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It's the closest phone to the Moto X that I can get in 2019.
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Exactly!
Had a play with the pixel 4 yesterday in a retailer. Compared that to the Mrs pixel 3 and my 2xl.
The pixel 4 is a nice size and to be honest, the 2xl with a military grade drop protection case is just to large.
Admittedly I've just purchased a case for the pixel 4 when it arrives with so called military grade drop protection.
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The 4XL is just too big. At 160mm x 75 mm, it's about the size of a Nexus 6 (159 mm x 83 mm) which I had and found unusably large -- the screen is too big to be operated one-handed, even without a case.
Size
I pre ordered the P4 as I have smaller hands. You can't beat pure android, no bloatwear and first to get updates.
What I don't like with the Google phones, of which I have had all of them except the P3, is when a fault with the phone happens, the Google process for returning and getting a replacement is shocking, especially when I've heard loads of instances when Google send you a refurbished phone to replace what could be your brand you faulty phone.
iPhone , which I've never owned, but family members have, do not mess customers about. If you have a faulty phone still within warranty, they either repair it in store in about 2 hours or simply give you a new one on the spot.
I've never incurred a faulty Google phone yet, I'm just dreading it ever happens. Google need to review this process. I also heard instances that it takes days/weeks for the phone to come back, totally unacceptable for this day and age.
Pixel 4...
Mines ordered.... it arrives tomorrow and I can claim a free Chromebook..!!!
But...
I do wish Nokia had got the 9.1 / 10 ?? ready for this side of Xmas..
Better light camera engine, new CPU, Android 1, 2 years of updates..
I cannot help but feel the p4 is just another incremental upgrade and not a huge leap forward.. but a huge amount of gimmicks... I.e soli.
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I'm going to be honest.
Pixel 2 and Pixel 4 are about the same size (what matters to me is the width, also the weight).
But pixel 2 is still much more easy to handle with one hand (and a thin case)
The extra bigger screen of the Pixel 4 makes it more difficult to handle.
Still Pixel 4 is much more comfortable with one hand than any XL/Phablet version.
But I wouldn't mind if Google in the future released an additional "Pixel XS" based on a 5" and smaller than Pixel 2
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I love the P3 size so I went with the P4. I had the 2XL and 3XL and they just were too big overtime and I feel like the screen to body ratio is silly on them.
Battery sucked on my P3 and so far it sucks as well on my P4.
I had the pixel 2 and was great for my small hands, I bought the 3xl and I am not happy with it, screen is too big for me to reach, I ordered the pixel 4 because is the smallest flagship with Android stock on it
I'll let you know if it is ergonomic enough when I'll receive it
Size. Finger crossed for the battery...
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Had a play with the pixel 4 yesterday in a retailer. Compared that to the Mrs pixel 3 and my 2xl.
The pixel 4 is a nice size and to be honest, the 2xl with a military grade drop protection case is just to large.
Admittedly I've just purchased a case for the pixel 4 when it arrives with so called military grade drop protection.
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I have a Nexus 6 I still use and a Moto Z2. I use the Nexus 6 at home all the time because of its larger screen on WiFi (it has no SIM card). It is rooted and running a custom ROM. I recently took both on an overseas trip and put the local SIM card in the Nexus 6 and my local one in the Z2. I probably used the Nexus 6 more than the Z2 on the trip. I had no issues with its size and my hands are not large. This is why I decided to buy the XL because 1) I can handle the larger screen size and 2) want the larger battery.
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gpvecchi said:
Size. Finger crossed for the battery...
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I've had it 24 hours.
Battery life seems ok for me, but I'm a moderate user.
152bobby said:
I pre ordered the P4 as I have smaller hands. You can't beat pure android, no bloatwear and first to get updates.
What I don't like with the Google phones, of which I have had all of them except the P3, is when a fault with the phone happens, the Google process for returning and getting a replacement is shocking, especially when I've heard loads of instances when Google send you a refurbished phone to replace what could be your brand you faulty phone.
iPhone , which I've never owned, but family members have, do not mess customers about. If you have a faulty phone still within warranty, they either repair it in store in about 2 hours or simply give you a new one on the spot.
I've never incurred a faulty Google phone yet, I'm just dreading it ever happens. Google need to review this process. I also heard instances that it takes days/weeks for the phone to come back, totally unacceptable for this day and age.
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Gosh... Hard to read that. You obviously have not the smallest clue how warranty repair works. I work in a company which sells electronics, we are ASP for Lenovo and Apple, means we are qualified to repair devices from those manufacturers. I work in customer service, hearing all sorts of nice people complaining and crying, insulting me for no reason etc. while having no knowledge how things work at all and that things often are done this way to make them satisfied. But customers, like e.g. you, always find something to complain. If you give out a replacement fast, but refurbished they complain about that. If you repair and this takes many weeks (not possible to fasten the process, it's already done as fast as possible!), they complain that it takes too long.... *sigh*
To make some things clear as you don't know (as well as most others) what you're talking about:
- warranty repair means: you can send your device directly to the manufacturer or let your seller handle that for you (which takes up even more time)
- your seller can send it to an ASP or the manufacturer, in most cases it will be an ASP and NOT the manufacturer, even with Apple
- atm waiting time in most Apple stores including ASPs here in Germany is two weeks minimum (!), not 2 hours!
At our Berlin ASP for Apple it's atm 3-4 weeks before your device is even touched the first time, same in other Apple stores there - always depends on where you live and how many other Apple users live near you - even heard from customers waiting for more than 6 weeks for the repair of their AirPods handed over directly in Apple Store (not ASP), no "simply give you a new one on the spot" - don't tell people such a crap
- most manufacturers (again: also Apple!), if not all, often hand out refurbished devices in case of warranty repair to make the process, which could easily take 6 weeks in case of a real repair of your original device, faster for the customer. This is because most customers are just constantly complaining and whining. To stop that they hand out devices FAST, which then is often, even with Apple, another refurbished device
- if some spare parts have to be ordered and then repair fails (you couldn't always predict that before), it's possible to wait a few weeks and then get a refurbished one
- pretty sure many customers think they got a new device, but got a refurbished one as you often can't tell the difference - refurbished are devices which SHOULD be this way, that you can't tell the difference... if you can it's just not well done
- think about: if thousands of people with broken devices for 1000 $ would always get a new phone while it is easily repairable in the end the costs would be higher than the revenue, they would have to stop producing as margins are already very low on devices but only high on accessories, contracts (like e.g. Apple warranty extension), paid services (like Apple Music), revenue from App Store, etc.
- ALL manufacturers handle it that way, repair time (regularly): 4-6 weeks, doesn't matter which manufacturer (not only Google, as you suggest)
- Apple grants only 1 year! guarantee (while it's 2 years with Google) - that's what I call not acceptable for this day and age! You couldn't imagine how many raging customers I have to do with because of this extremely poor service by Apple, especially when thinking about the huge prices their products are offered for. And they are totally right, that's why I do my best to help them, though often not possible when warranty is gone after only one year. Personally I'd never buy anything from Apple and wouldn't recommend those products to anyone.
- in very rare cases manufacturer or ASP decide to hand out a new device, e.g.: repair not possible, no refurbished device available or very annoying customer getting loud in the store (no joke), still always depends on the person deciding that... "Apple does..." or "Manufacturer XY does..." Sorry, but those statements are just b******* and have nothing to do with reality. You should be aware that not everything will work the way you like to, because some things are just not possible the way you wrote it on your Christmas list, even after a "review of this process" (it's hard to stay polite when reading such du... not very well conceived statements).
Got a new device instead of repair or refurbished? Just enjoy and be happy and be sure that next 100 customers probably won't be that lucky. Know one or two people who got a new device? That doesn't mean that company XY always handles it that way (except for things like hard drives or very cheap things). Most probably they got refurbished but didn't realize that as it was well done or even a device from a refund, almost untouched (but also not new).
Got some broken EarPods? I will send some new ones for free to the customer because transportation back + recycling + sending new ones costs more than just sending new ones. (Such cheap stuff won't be repaired at all.)
Oh forgot...
Chose Pixel 4 because don't like huge panels. It must fit the front pocket of my pants and easily be usable with one hand. Both not the case for XL. To add: gesture navigation is awesome, I'd never imagined that (was never a fan of gestures before)!.

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