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Samsung build quality

I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.

i came from only using HTC phones, and an N1 to this NS and ya it was getting used to but i have had nothing but good times with my baby.
even dropping her a few times she still goes on like a champ

jun.seba said:
I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.
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I had the international galaxy s and i must say that samsung really screwed up the software part on the galaxy s series. But i really love samsung hardware.
U really cant compare galaxy s to this this phone. Nexus s is so much snappier. Didnt have any problems so far. Wouldnt change it for any phone thats announced so far.
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Should have returned your phone if unsatisfied. The build quality of my NS is excellent and I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out at this time.
edit: also I have a Fascinate with Verizon for work. Build quality is amazing. Only problem I have right now is I am still running 2.1.

jun.seba said:
I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.
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Thanks for asking the question that was on my mind. Have a captivate, and have the same concerns. Waiting for the ns to come to att.
To add to the question, how is the gps?
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I have met several problems with this phone:
1, Some time NS will reboot while making a long call;
2, The backspace key will sometimes does not work, especially with the early product version.
3, Messy code may happen in SMS sent to Users in CDMA network.
That's all. You may buy the latest version of NS and update it to 2.3.3 which is said to solve the random reboot problem.

My first smartphone's the HTC Hero, then N1 and now the NS. Must say i'm loving the weight distribution and design of the NS. I do Gmask (http://www.gmask.com/) for the back of the phone so the plastic bits doesn't even bother me. Haven't had an issue with random reboots except for when i overclock it to 1400mhz and beyond. Besides, 1000mhz is more than enough to run all my required apps/games smoothly. No issue with the backspace. Best phone i had and wouldn't trade it for one that puts me at the mercy of carriers/phone manufacturers for software updates.
Only item i notice is that the GPS in the NS takes a little longer to zoom in to my location compared to the N1. It's fine if i use Maps 5.0,places etc but if i use Brut's version of Maps for navigation (Singapore doesn't have free turn by turn navigation yet) i will take a relative long time (15-20 secs compared to instantly when using the same app on the N1). Not sure if that's a problem with the outdated app or with the GPS hardware, probably the app since others work just fine.

If gps is working, and my tracks will track properly, you are +1 on me.
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Just realised the OP's nic's is Jun Seba.
RIP good man. Hope you're stilll producing good music wherever you are....

Switched from the Evo to the NS - the S is clearly a higher quality device in terms of fit and finish. The Evo always creaked with light squeezing - which feels cheap to me - the battery cover was laughably flimsy, the soft-touch plastic was a little TOO soft and was easy to knick/gouge (and when this happened it revealed the red plastic underneath - looked horrible) and I always thought the button and rocker action and feedback was horrible on the Evo.
The materials are sorta meh in the S, especially compared to the N1 or iPhone 4, but the N1 was sorta overkill in that dept anyway and function seemed to follow form on the iPhone 4 (though I think it is inarguably gorgeous).
The NS feels very light in the hand, almost like its hollow. I believe that's more due to balancing and battery placement, and its not a bad thing. Just took a bit of getting used to.
Overall I think its very comparable to the iPhone 3g(s), but with a superior touch surface (I love the concave glass) and MUCH better front bezel design.
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I love the build quality of both the Galacy S and Nexus S.
I've also had a Desire HD and G2, HTC's build quality leaves much to be desired. As is mentioned above, squeeze it in places and there are all kinds of creaks and groans. The G2 has too many issues to mention.
The Nexus S, although it might have a plastic back, feels very solid.

I would easily recommned the Nexus S. From a hardware persepctive the only thing wrong with it is the back gets scratched easily and if you push the back right where the USB port is you may hear a creak once in a while (the only time the cheap plastic back is really noticable). I've had one or two reboots but that's a software issue. So far I haven't had any other issues with build quality but just from shopping around I did get the impression some of the HTC products felt more "solid". However, as noted elsewhere here, love the curved glass and actually prefer the lighter feel of the phone as a whole.
I should point out that I came to the Nexus S from a Palm Pre so of course the Nexus S feels pretty much darn near unbreakable next to my old phone

Coming from a Vibrant
My NS doesn't feel as cheap/hallow as my vibrant.
But still fingerprint magnet and back cover still scratches easy so baby it if you dont use case like me

Goodbye nexy

Received my sgs2 so I have to say goodbye to my nexy. Want to thank all developers and all people here who helped me to enjoy my experience with this great phone.
Regards
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aelole said:
Received my sgs2 so I have to say goodbye to my nexy. Want to thank all developers and all people here who helped me to enjoy my experience with this great phone.
Regards
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I am gonna hate the day i will do the same....
I love that phone so badly!!!
aaarrggghhhh. But a 4.65 inch 720P Nexus 4 seems to be a dream...
let see!!

I tried to say goodbye once. But I just couldn't do it, ended up selling the g2x.
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Really like Nexus one, I think it is still one of the best designed Android phone.

nexus one
+ WORKING MULTI-TOUCH SCREEN
+ a slide-out qwerty keyboard
+ 4.0" rather than 3.7" screen
+ more ROM space and RAM and improved CPU and GPU
+ dedicated camera button
+ dedicated call and end buttons (no idea why phones no longer use these)
until this phone comes out, im sticking with my n1

I made ​​it to my there to say goodbye

i still have my nexus one and i want to upgrade to the galaxy nexus. but to be honest i am quite sad because i do not want to leave my phone that has so much great memories in it same reason i did not buy any other phone till now

My NExus one died yesterday night, it fell on its screen and hit the corner of a wooden desk, it was such a hard fall that the screen shattered from the inside and now its just black.
I was literally this close to crying for it, and if i wasn't a grown man, i wouldve shamelessly wept over it!
The touch screen still works perfect, but its just black screen
Guess I'll get a samsung galaxy S2, I liked the galaxy nexus, but its pretty much the same, only the s2 has a micro sd and 8 mp over the galaxy nexus
And with cyanogen, am sure we'll be seeing the ICS ported out reaaallllyyy soon

You're not the only one, I dropped my Nexus about a 5 min walk from house yesterday and now I have spiderglass, touch screen still works though.
Was thinking about the Galaxy Nexus also but it wasn't what I thought it would be so I am gonna go with a SGS2 also.
Its a curse how many of us most of broke our phones on the Nexus Galaxy launch day.

My thoughts exactly!
It's just that having the being obsoleted hardware buttons would probably suck especially if it's a new phone. Thoughts?
firas1886 said:
My NExus one died yesterday night, it fell on its screen and hit the corner of a wooden desk, it was such a hard fall that the screen shattered from the inside and now its just black.
I was literally this close to crying for it, and if i wasn't a grown man, i wouldve shamelessly wept over it!
The touch screen still works perfect, but its just black screen
Guess I'll get a samsung galaxy S2, I liked the galaxy nexus, but its pretty much the same, only the s2 has a micro sd and 8 mp over the galaxy nexus
And with cyanogen, am sure we'll be seeing the ICS ported out reaaallllyyy soon
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aelole said:
Received my sgs2 so I have to say goodbye to my nexy. Want to thank all developers and all people here who helped me to enjoy my experience with this great phone.
Regards
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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I did the same and I really miss my track ball

aelole said:
Received my sgs2 so I have to say goodbye to my nexy. Want to thank all developers and all people here who helped me to enjoy my experience with this great phone.
Regards
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Well, actually you are keep both of them, one for day-use in front of the public, the other one for bed time.

Sold my N1 as well. Damn fine phone, but I got a good deal on a Nexus S. I decided to jump while I could get a decent sale price on the N1. There are some things I do miss like that goofy trackball. You get used to LED notifications and having a physical button for pictures.

LED notifications are awesome...

Black screen
I have a glass shattered N1 but its just not powering on , when you guys say "touch screen works , but black screen " means does it vibrate and power on or nothing happens when you power it on ....

I wish I never sold my N1.. people are telling me it's worth quite a buck even now!!!
I miss the trackball, and the LED glowing different colours lol
And the AMOLED screen! (awesome for it's time, and although Samsung still looks after us there, I have a HTC Desire HD with crappy LCD now)
Although I heard that later N1s came with a SuperLCD instead of AMOLED, following the shortage loooool
Main reason I sold it was because it only gave 128MB of app memory (as opposed to Desire HD's over 1GB, and newer phones slightly more). Even with Apps2SD (to move the majority of app data to SD card), it still wasn't enough for the hundreds of apps I wanted. Oh well..

Such a great phone. I dont want to think about the day ill have to part with it.

Anybody else trying to hold out for the Nexus 4?
Hang in there! We got Ice Cream Sandwich to squeeze some more life out of our N1s!

I'm going to at least get my hands sticky with ICS on the N1 before making any big decisions.

Lol, I have tried to replace the Nexus one two days back with the Motorola RAZR but I could not do it. Though as I could not return it and had to exchange it I got the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE and this seems to be a quite persuasive phone. The only problem I have ever had with the Nexus one is the calls voice quality on my N1 handset. I am more convinced its my handset not every N1 as some of my friends claimed a great quality voice calls on theirs, but fixing that will be messy . Though no the N1 is not going to away, its just will be my secondary phone for my personal phone . Maybe you can call it he is upgraded .

Note 2 to have unbreakable screen in October!!!

http://news.mk.co.kr/english/newsRead.php?rss=Y&sc=30800011&year=2012&no=360619
The next Note will have an even larger screen with flexible AMOLED, which is unbreakable! Sounds amazing if true! I want one!

I hope this is true but will put me in a dilemma as I was thinking of getting the note 10.1!

I will get Note 10.1! ..if they will ever release it

If it only was true.....
The note 1 is supposed to have gorilla glass, scratch proof etc. etc. How many have already their screen scratched ?? Battery life improvement with a bigger lcd ?? If we don't use our devices they will last at least a week, that's true !!
I never had the expected battery life they anounced using the phone normally, in fact the ics update made things worse... What's the point of anouncing things that aren't (yet) possible ??
After the latest problem with the update (that they already knew from earlier devices, nexus for example) they still insist in errors from tha past that shouldn't even be possible....... Well i really like my note i just don't like samsung. If they don't solve the problems with the first note before launching the second one .......... But it's all to be in the race with apple...
I'm starting to think i should have bought a zte or an lg.......
becosemsaida

Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness

DJsCrIBbLe said:
Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
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So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.

How about the glass that covers the screen and the digitizer?
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becosemsaida said:
So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.
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Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??

Here is the mock up image http://i.imgur.com/kZuwC.jpg and source http://www.motoringcrunch.com/news/mobile-tech/10946-samsung-galaxy-note-2-s3-rumors

Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.

I bought mine on last sunday, i say i wont replace it for years! It's the best phone i ever had... and dude... i had lots! I was addicted to apple products, then i bought galaxy nexus 2 months ago and now i have the note. Its awesome...

Got my note upon first release in November, I love it dearly, but I want to move on. I think I want something bigger.... I'm waiting to hear about the Nexus Tablet... hopefully that thing is all I expect it be be, and I will use that as my phone

Oh boy... and here comes the speculation....
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.

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friedje said:
Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??
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Yep, if it wasn't for insurance...... Can't find a screen protector with the right size for it

What I love is the fact that people equate flexible to unbreakable.
I bet if you sit on a flexible screen the wrong way so as to fold it it would break. Reminds me of all the talk when CD's first came out, they said they were unbreakable, my car and the sun proved them wrong in the first week of owning one.
I will be happy if they have a flexible display as I wont be tempted to upgrade.
But like I posted elsewhere I cannot see it happening. What makes the Note unique (besides its size) is its S-pen, as the s-pen requires sensors behind the screen to detect the button presses I can not see how they would incorporate that is a flexible screen.
But I may be wrong

From how I read it the only reason they are using the flexible screen tech is because its much thinner, this will either allow a thinner device then the current note or keep the dimensions giving room for a larger battery. That mockup prototype has nothing to do with the note 2 and I cant ever see a phone design like that. If you put any decent force on it in that folded position the thing would break unless it was made of rubber.
I dont expect it to actually have a flexible screen unless its some type of flip foldout multiscreen design which I doubt it will have, this would make it a true phone tab hybrid if its in the note form factor but could extend out to a tablet. This will probably be the note 3 that does this I wouod think and not something out in october.
Note 2 will likely have a 5.5-5.7 inch screen hopefuly around 1080p with a 3000mah battery or slightly larger if possible. The physical size wont be much larger then the current note but heavier due to the larger battery as larger capacity equals more weight. Being a note it will have a stylus for sure and the phone going by this release will have the same quad as the gs3 maybe slighlty higher clocked, not the faster arm v15 duel core.
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guys i dont want an unbreakable screen and stuff....i just want sammy to not foolishly waste the marvels they create!!example: the note:its by far THE BEST phone ive ever used...screen unbelievable: the day i bought it, another guy was buying the s3 and i didnt even feel bad, my phone was looking way better than his..
but i say waste their marvels coz: that ungodly black crush issue. heck almost every note had it in that store and moreover their dealers denied it, saying it was absent when all you had to do was open the calculator app and see the ugly banding right there..they refused to accept and said it was 'the design'..
and photos taken in the dark have this issue too...
other than this this phone ROCKS!!!!! I mean the size is just coooool..never slows down under any kind of multitasking, never heats up, battery is superb..
just wish for note 2, they COMPLETELY get rid of this issue!!! note rocks!!
my note2 = note - black crush + stable ics !!!! ( dont get better than that!!!)

I will never waste more money on another updated note...its never worth it lol this note is perfeft size. Any bigger would be stupid but tk each their own. I got my note sim free so i paid a gud amount for it. I wont be sucked in with tiny updates and 12 mp camera, just another stunt to make folks spend more money.
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Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.
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agree with you mate

I'd love a slightly larger screen. It'll likely be 5'5"...but anything short of 6" would be fine with me.

I would LOVE an iPhone 5...if it ran Android

I hate Apple, and I always will. I will never buy from Apple or support it at all...but I really wish there where Android phones that had the same hardware quality as Apple. I love my Atrix, but squeeze it, it creaks. The back is flimsy, the camera lens scratches and its all soo plasticity, and a lot of Android phones are like this. All plastic, creaky, and over all compare to Apples phones, just horribly cheep feeling. I love Android an would never move to Apple, but I still would really love an Android phone that matched iPhone 4/4s or especially iPhone 5 quality. Just don't think it'll ever happen though, sadly.

That's why hardware-wise, Apple will always dominate in that category.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise. Take off your green colored glasses if you disagree.
Sent from my Atrix 4.1.1

This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.

nerfman100 said:
This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
Sent with my Nexus 7

andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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Yeah, not perfect.. just cut with diamonds and lasers n **** xD
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.

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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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That's very true. Nokias are built like tanks. And a lot of iphones owners have their screens cracked.
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Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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The part that cracks is maybe 3$ to replace online. 2 screws at the bottom. People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.

Atrix is actually a very nice compromise between aesthetics and tank phone. Part of the process when I pick a phone is how it looks and feels. A case changes that. Its not about looking cool or showing off. That implies I give a damn what others think.. I digress. Be ninja. Your phone is too important to drop, not to mention too damned expensive, but atrix can take it.
I've seen people holding cracked iPhones too.. usually they're also holding a joint and a skateboard. Or five things in each hand while simultaneously trying to make a call. can't blame that on apple fellas
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People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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There's a big difference between a completely shattered screen vs a small flake of paint coming off of my phone from a 4 foot drop. I had an iphone 3g that the screen was completely shattered and the back shell cracked from tripping over a rock and my iphone flung. Had the same thing happen with my atrix and just a lil paint came off (and my atrix bounced and hit the side of my house) neither had cases.... moral of the story drunk txting is bad
But yeah anyway, iphones dont have the best track record when it comes to hardware durability and I want to know where you're buying a screen shipped for $3 that's as good of quality as the origional... and to your comment about the iphone 4g, I've had a sales rep sit on his brand new iphone 4gs and it shattered his screen (again no case was on the phone). I've done that several times with my atrix and a nokia with no issues.
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nerfman100 said:
No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.
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This is what I thought until I dropped the phone from chest hight onto a concrete car park floor. Gorilla glass is structurally very tough and flexible but doesn't like impact and will break along micro scratches caused by leaving your phone face down on any gritty surface. I just got a black tpu case that has a nice lip around the screen edges but is otherwise nice and discrete. I can use my lapdock fine as it fits perfectly with the connections after removing the plastic tray and it cost me around £2. I love not having a case but it's so damn hard locating good replacement digitizers for the atrix I would rather play it safe.
As for apple hardware, it does seem pretty good quality, the I phone 4/s had a really nice weight to it and I have no doubt that the new device will feel more solid than most devices on the marked (excluding the lumia devices ) how this relates to their ruggedness I'm not sure (putting a glass back on a phone really is stupid ) still I would love a sapphire crystal over my camera lense! Android manufacturers really do need to up the quality though, a phone goes with you everywhere and needs to be fairly rugged. Although the Atrix is pretty decent I do wish it was more solid.
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You can consider Razr series for the best build quality. Backcase made by kevlar and housing full of metal.

Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/

MewRai95 said:
Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/
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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Since this a topic about iPhone vs Atrix 4G, I would like to have your opinion on the following. Currently I am not flowing with cash, and I have an iPhone 3G - I saw the Atrix 4G 16GB unlocked on ebay for like 228 (I am in Brazil so hence the unlock) So is the Atrix 4G a good phone (better than my 3G?) Can it run ICS or Jellybean thru custom roms off course, and how is it's gaming power?
Thanks

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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Well if want Android on iPhone that's the closest you're are ever going to get. Anyway it isn't even that bad, considering the screen is up to retina standards and has pretty good specs such as a Tegra 3. Anyway disregarding the fact that it's a fake iPhone, I bet the build quality is pretty good.
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Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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Me. It honestly depends what your intended use of a phone that is the final decision in this case. If you just want a phone that simply works, an IPhone is better, because its very limited in area to improve. Lots of restrictions, developer-wise.
If being able to improve performance in multiple aspects; Android all the way. What does the IPhone really offer when jailbroken? Tweaked themes? Sure, you can unlock it to be used on other carriers...but who wants just 3G?
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HTC dominates in build quality too. My old Aria was perfect in build quality to me. I have never had a phone that had like problems with the hardware. I have always gotten lucky and gotten a phone that was made well!
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Yeah, Crapple will always dominate in the crapPhone category.
Others are welcome to create their own categories which they do pretty well.
My fem uses her very special HTC Evo 3D. I want to see Crapple capable of creating a kind of similar device. Next century eventually?

Anyone else having trouble deciding?

I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?

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I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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Same here. I really wanted a waterproof phone. Maybe they will have an Active version without watering down the specs.

goodwinod said:
Same here. I really wanted a waterproof phone. Maybe they will have an Active version without watering down the specs.
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That would be very exciting. Here's hoping.

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That would be very exciting. Here's hoping.
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Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...

bossei said:
Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...
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Yeah no problem, there's quite a few reasons why waterproof seems attractive to me. I live in Fl and i often have to contend with rain/sweat. I ride a motorcycle and run outdoors on the regular. I guess all that boils down to peace of mind (i damaged a S2 canoeing and got caught in the rain a few times with the Note II no damage though thankfully). Also i think it'd be pretty cool to grab some pictures under water of course.
Problem is, if i'd never owned the note 2 i would have hopped on the z1 no problem. But i really liked its large screen. I have big ol hands (the note 2 almost looks normal when i'm holding it). Also the large screen is very easy on the eyes. I also regularly used the stylus.. . Wish i could buy them both.

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Yeah no problem, there's quite a few reasons why waterproof seems attractive to me. I live in Fl and i often have to contend with rain/sweat. I ride a motorcycle and run outdoors on the regular. I guess all that boils down to peace of mind (i damaged a S2 canoeing and got caught in the rain a few times with the Note II no damage though thankfully). Also i think it'd be pretty cool to grab some pictures under water of course.
Problem is, if i'd never owned the note 2 i would have hopped on the z1 no problem. But i really liked its large screen. I have big ol hands (the note 2 almost looks normal when i'm holding it). Also the large screen is very easy on the eyes. I also regularly used the stylus.. . Wish i could buy them both.
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Thank you that makes perfect sense.

Im torn between Z-ultra and Note-3. Leaning towards the Z-U... becuase of the screen size. We'll see, i have to see them in person 1st...

Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....

Even if they made a waterproof N3, is the SPen waterproof as well? And, no, I'm not about to go test mine.

If the z1 comes to att I'll probably go with that just bc I haven't had a Sony and two the specs and looks are love
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Even if they made a waterproof N3, is the SPen waterproof as well? And, no, I'm not about to go test mine.
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haha i doubt the s pen is waterproof. You could probably dunk it a bunch and it will work for a while but it does have some metal parts inside that would suffer some oxidation in the long term.
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Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....
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Thats a good point, I think i read somewhere that the s800 has more processing power and less battery drain. I can't cite that though. Someone chime in if they know? I think i would get the lte one even if battery life was a smidge shorter.
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Im torn between Z-ultra and Note-3. Leaning towards the Z-U... becuase of the screen size. We'll see, i have to see them in person 1st...
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Can you wield that phone? It looks big even by my standards.
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If the z1 comes to att I'll probably go with that just bc I haven't had a Sony and two the specs and looks are love
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I have not had a sony either. My recent experience with a lumia 1020 have made me really appreciate good cameras on phones though. The z1 seems like the ultimate compromise of features. idk though...

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I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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I know 100% that the Note 3 is the phone for me because a) The specs are monstrous and b) it's the only viable option for someone who wants to use a stylus seriously (In the immediate future / present market). I'm using a capacitive stylus on the (2012) Nexus 7 and it just doesn't cut it. The new Note 3 is going to allow me to ditch my Epic 4G Touch and Nexus 7 in one fell swoop while increasing my productivity
No other phone comes close in my search - although I LOVE stock android so I'm quite tempted by the prospect of a new Nexus phone, but I'd rather have the epic stylus functionality.
My only debate right now is which carrier to go with - The Sprint voice/data networks have been garbage for me over the last 2 years here in Colorado. (I'm debating between Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T - Verizon is prohibitively expensive)

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haha i doubt the s pen is waterproof. You could probably dunk it a bunch and it will work for a while but it does have some metal parts inside that would suffer some oxidation in the long term.
Thats a good point, I think i read somewhere that the s800 has more processing power and less battery drain. I can't cite that though. Someone chime in if they know? I think i would get the lte one even if battery life was a smidge shorter.
Can you wield that phone? It looks big even by my standards.
I have not had a sony either. My recent experience with a lumia 1020 have made me really appreciate good cameras on phones though. The z1 seems like the ultimate compromise of features. idk though...
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But what's hard to leave camera aspect and unlocked bootloader is the HTC one for them having super low light sensor plus HTC giving u access to unlock bootloader something that's gonna be a tough cookie on all new phones that's out and will come out for att except HTC almost why I kinda wanna go HTC one max but still idk. Plus I wanna get a phone with a good dev community so I can build for it. So idk what to get. G2, Z1, N3, 1Max, MotoX. I'm just bored with my black 64 gb HTC one I need something new to play with
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No, no trouble deciding. After using the (original) Note for the past two years, there was no question that my next phone would be a similar size. I find it to be as large as possible w/o being too difficult to handle or fit in my pocket. I think the Mega would be too big (not to mention it's inferior specs). Personally, I would be surprised if they introduced an "Active" version. Not just because of the s-pen itself, but because of the hole the s-pen fits into. It's just another possible water entry point that would have to be addressed. Besides, the note is marketed as more of a business device vs. the S4. It doesn't seem like there would be as large of a market for a waterproofed Note vs. S4. FWIW, I ride a motorcycle too. Although I'm more of a fair weather rider, I have gotten drenched on several occasions, and it's never been an issue for my current Note. The phone does get wet while in my pocket in a storm, but it's not really the same as getting submerged.

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No, no trouble deciding. After using the (original) Note for the past two years, there was no question that my next phone would be a similar size. I find it to be as large as possible w/o being too difficult to handle or fit in my pocket. I think the Mega would be too big (not to mention it's inferior specs). Personally, I would be surprised if they introduced an "Active" version. Not just because of the s-pen itself, but because of the hole the s-pen fits into. It's just another possible water entry point that would have to be addressed. Besides, the note is marketed as more of a business device vs. the S4. It doesn't seem like there would be as large of a market for a waterproofed Note vs. S4. FWIW, I ride a motorcycle too. Although I'm more of a fair weather rider, I have gotten drenched on several occasions, and it's never been an issue for my current Note. The phone does get wet while in my pocket in a storm, but it's not really the same as getting submerged.
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Yes to the screen size. I feel like you nailed that subject. Its just the right size. I also doubt they will release an active version of the note 3. Not because of the pen silo though, where the silo fits the pen doesn't have to interact with any electronics, therefor the silo could be part of a unibody shell without having to introduce any seams into the design.There are plenty of other reasons why making an active version of the note would be challenging though...
For me i think its going to come down to who offers me the best price/package. Z1 or Note 3. I'm looking to purchase outright full price on att lte network and i'm getting antsy. I don't want to wait too long. I think the longest i'd be willing to wait is until nexus 5 reviews come out.

On the topic of waterproof of the xperia. Even though it's a great function and I was very tempted with it on the ultra z.
There was a YouTube video I have seen last night about how the screen of ultra z would not response if it's fully immerse in the water. Somehow the water makes the screen unresponsive. I'm not too sure if it's the same with z1 though.
It might also be a pain to constantly making sure there's no dust building up around and under the flaps so to keep the waterproof function working 100%
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Valid points, i saw that video too. I wonder how they advertise it taking pictures under water... I bet they only use the physical camera button. Cant wait for more reviews on all these phones.

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Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....
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Assuming you are buying for the use in the US (snapdragon processor), the phone is tri-band, it supports both GSM and LTE.

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Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...
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My note 1 made it all the way through my rafting trip (I was tracking our 5 day trip with gps). Then I got home and was pre-soaking my pants prior to washing them and it was in the pocket. It was a sad day. I've had to use my gs2 for about a month while waiting for the note 3.
And yes, the spen still work. I tried it on my note 10.1.

systoxity said:
I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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Yep my choice as well. I am not so certain on the Note 3 size though & the Z1's camera is a very big plus point for it.