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I mean, the transformer is coming out with a dock at the same price everywhere.
Don't you think that gtab10.1 sales are doomed unless samsung comes up with a keyboard dock like the transformer one ?
I fear that when asus will start their ad campains people will only retain "ANDROID tablet = also a laptop" in their heads. I feel for samsung if the gtab 10.1 fails again like the original galaxytab because of simply that.
Especially after the charming overhaul of the design. An aluminium keyboard dock with usb/hdmi and sd ports in it would be kick ass even if it's sold 200$.
It isn't worth it at $200.
The 64gb 3g version will cost around MSRP $800 plus another $200 for the kb makes it a $1000 investment.
Compared to $700-800 for Asus with keyboard and 64gb 3g and everything the same plus usb port, makes it in favor of the Asus.
Samsung will fail if the keyboard crosses $100, at least on that front.
Asus kb is for $125 in Taiwan and 60 pounds in UK and about 60 or so euros in Europe. Only US is expensive with $100-150.
And they need to come up with a wireless keyboard and I am sure they will!
Not at all. I personally don't think the Asus Transformer will only appeal to a very narrow demographic. While it is a great piece of hardware, it is far too "geeky" for the average consumer.
Samsung is already a mainstream brand having sold zillions of TVs and other home appliances over many years.
The Tab also has a more sleek design which has the potential to sway many would-be iPad buyers.
Also, I wouldn't say the original Tab was a failure. It might not have made mega bucks for Samsung but it had a big impact on the Android tablet market as a whole. It made people sit up and take notice of the future potential of Android as an alternative to the iPad.
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Exactly what makes the Transformer geeky?
I feel as if the Transformer should have came with the keyboard... not bought separately. I thought that was the entire point of buying the thing. And no, I don't believe ASUS's giant-bezel tablet will hurt the Tabs. Samsung is an advertising behemoth with brand recognition and lovely hardware design. Also don't forget about TouchWiz, they've made Honeycomb's Tron esque look much more colorful and less
dark, which believe it or not people will adore.
Transformer is going to be heavy and thick. I doubt the thinner, lighter Tab will have a problem other than competing price point.
Not all people would like the dock
Me, for example. I don't like it at all.
I prefer thin and light device.
No dock for me either. The 10.1 is perfect
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I mean, the transformer is coming out with a dock at the same price everywhere.
Don't you think that gtab10.1 sales are doomed unless samsung comes up with a keyboard dock like the transformer one ?
I fear that when asus will start their ad campains people will only retain "ANDROID tablet = also a laptop" in their heads. I feel for samsung if the gtab 10.1 fails again like the original galaxytab because of simply that.
Especially after the charming overhaul of the design. An aluminium keyboard dock with usb/hdmi and sd ports in it would be kick ass even if it's sold 200$.
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I'll definitely be getting the tab whether or not a dock is released. I don't think I'd use a dock that much but if they do release a dock for a fair price then I may consider it.
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Dunno but the gtab10.1 is only about 70grams lighter and 4mm thinner than the transformer (and that's at the transformer's fattest point, since it's a curved back the transformer on the sides is pretty much as thin as the gtab).
I don’t want a dock, don’t need a keyboard just a thin/light device which is what the 10.1 is.
Even as a desk dock the transformer keyboard owns everything.
Also, when I read people saying "just want a light & thin device" I wonder if you ever even tried to watch a several minute long video while holding a tablet in front of you. Good luck with "light" lol, I don't think light comes off as an argument preventing usage exhaustion unless it's something like a 300g tablet or less.
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Even as a desk dock the transformer keyboard owns everything.
Also, when I read people saying "just want a light & thin device" I wonder if you ever even tried to watch a several minute long video while holding a tablet in front of you. Good luck with "light" lol, I don't think light comes off as an argument preventing usage exhaustion unless it's something like a 300g tablet or less.
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Yet, I'm guessing that docks like the Atrix Dock and the transformer dock will become common. So if there will be one for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, why not get that so you can have a THIN laptop/tablet thing?
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Yet, I'm guessing that docks like the Atrix Dock and the transformer dock will become common. So if there will be one for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, why not get that so you can have a THIN laptop/tablet thing?
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I agree. If Samsung release a keyboard dock (which is more than likely since the 7" Tab had one), then it owns the Transformer hands down.
It seems ASUS has accomplished their goal. They adding a nice little gimmick that makes people consider their tablet over the competitors. Then again... it is just a dock. Any manufacture can make one. Even little third-party companies make them~
Or if you don't mind, you could buy a lovely bluetooth keyboard.
Yea but samsung third party accessories are slow as hell to come out, and the official ones are expensive (100+$ for just a former gtab keyboard dock station with no extra battery!!), and the gtab dock will never have an extra 8hour battery in it like the transformer does Frankly the only thing holding me on the transformer is the PLS screen and black&chrome design of the gtab, I don't like much the copper color of the transformer but with it's dock in the reviews its rather sexy.
I guess I'll just buy the transformer now and give it to my girlfriend to get a gtab once some good dock with hdmi and usb ports (big minus there on gtab) will be available. The gtab official bookcover looks wicked tho http://www.tabletdigger.com/gt/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bookcover.jpg
Also, it is okay to wait for a gtab dock but the transformer actually have a KEYBOARD dock... pretty different from normal dock and the battery... samsung never gonna get something close to that (mean price wise, etc) and perfect if the transformer only get in the hands of "geeks" so that way all developpers, etc will make awesome apps/dev for this device
I have a transformer on order. But I don't really care about the keyboard. I could see the appeal if someone were buying this as their only device, or maybe even their only portable device. But I have a notebook if I need to use a keyboard. If it were $50, I might buy it, but not at $120+, because I'm mostly interested in the tablet functionality. Honestly, I'd prefer the better screen and slimmer design of the Samsung, but the Samsung is 25% more expensive. I just don't think it's wise to pay much of a premium at this stage of the tablet market. There will likely be something twice as good for similar $$ next year. In the mean time, I'll either figure out I didn't really need a tablet after all, or I'll like it, and get something better when the options go up and the prices come down.
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I agree. If Samsung release a keyboard dock (which is more than likely since the 7" Tab had one), then it owns the Transformer hands down.
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IMHO, a KB dock alone isn't going to own a TF101. It needs to have USB ports, SDHC/SDXC slot or more to own a TF101.
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IMHO, a KB dock alone isn't going to own a TF101. It needs to have USB ports, SDHC/SDXC slot or more to own a TF101.
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Your overestimating the masses. People go gaga for slim devices, IMO it's a total scam. I know so many people swho bought the iPad2 because it was thin. You can bet that Sammy will advertise the HELL out of the fact that it's thinner than the iPad2
I returned my Transformer and am waiting for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
One of the pros for the Transformer is the docking station and it's really sweet how well it seems to work together.
But I have a few small complaints about the Transformer and the Galaxy Tab has a few of it's own pros, that I think the Galaxy Tab will do very well.
First with the Transformer.
The speakers kinda suck and aren't positioned very well. Not sure of the sound quality on the Galaxy Tab speakers, but I can't imagine it would be worse and I like the positioning better.
The Transformer's back get warm and the textured plastic doesn't offer much grip when your hand starts getting a little moist. It appears the Galaxy Tab will have a better no slip back.
The glass on the Transformer is really thin and a little too flexible. I can see it bending without applying much pressure. Hoping the Galaxy Tab has better glass.
The bezel on the Transformer is too dang big. Sure the Xoom over did it by making their bezel too small, but ASUS went too far in the other direction. Galaxy Tab looks like the perfect middle.
The Transformer just feel a little on the cheap side after the iPad and Xoom tablets I owned. I won't know until I have it in my hand, but I get the impression the Galaxy Tab will have a firmer more quality feel to it.
The weight is really big. People see the 85 gram weight difference between the Transformer and Galaxy Tab and think it won't mean much. But 50 grams separated the Transformer from the Xoom and I really noticed that difference. I can only imagine the Galaxy Tab is going to feel like a feather compared to the Transformer.
Most of these things are small nit-picking. But enough of them have added up that I think I need to wait on the Galaxy Tab. The cool docking station just isn't enough. Though the lack of a micro SD slot is kinda chaffing me, but I think even that might not be enough to scare me away from the Galaxy Tab.
I was reading that "review" of the tablet on engadget and they say that the 16gb is gonna be $499 and the 32gb $599.
Is this accurate?
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I concur, those are the prices Samsung announced at CTIA for the wifi only version.
The GT 8.9 (early summer release) is priced $30 less the the GT 10.1.
However, Samsung may come out with a lower price to compete with the Transformer.
Some samsung exec was quoted saying 399$ at google io.... Oh how I hope thats the case.
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It's probably not.
Yeah I remember reading that somewhere...
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Some samsung exec was quoted saying 399$ at google io.... Oh how I hope thats the case.
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I think the $400 price was a misunderstanding or a fabrication. Can't imagine they'll have any need to price it below $500.
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I think the $400 price was a misunderstanding or a fabrication. Can't imagine they'll have any need to price it below $500.
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In all reality, to get people like me's sale... I know its a nicer case / form factor / build quality than the transformer, but if the price is 100$ more... i'm going to have a hard time justifying that.
Not to mention they could take the ipad2 by storm by coming in 100$ less.
Either way I guess i'm going to wait until they actually hit the release date and not just preorder before I decide to go with this or the transformer...
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I think the $400 price was a misunderstanding or a fabrication. Can't imagine they'll have any need to price it below $500.
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I disagree. Tablets in general are WAY overpriced right now. If you compare what you're getting compared to a similarly priced laptop.... smaller screen, slower CPU, no keyboard, less memory, fewer ports, less upgradability, less expensive software, the only thing you get in a tablet that you DON'T get in a typical laptop is a touchscreen. A tablet is going to cost much less to produce than a similarly priced laptop. The only reason they sell them for what they do is because they can, due to the current state of the tablet market. In another year or two, we will all be embarrassed for what we paid for these.
But if you look at the market, probably the biggest competition for the Samsung is the Transformer. It's $400, has a microSD slot, HDMI port, and an optional keyboard that turns it into a netbook with extended battery life and additional ports. The only significant advantage the Samsung has is the form factor: it's about 3/16 of an inch thinner. Whether or not the slimmer sexier design is worth the trade-off in the extra features the Transformer offers is going to be up to the needs of the individual. But losing those features AND paying 25% more, just to get something a little slimmer? That's pushing it. The Transformer is a much better comparison than the Ipad2, because there's no logic in what people will pay for an Apple product. The Gtab is not an Apple.
The only reason I'm still following the Gtab is because of the $400 rumor. If it ends up sticking to the $500 price previously announced, I'll stick with my current Transformer pre-order. In another year or so, they will probably all be at least as svelt as the Gtab, they'll be twice as fast, they'll be running Ice Cream Sandwich, maybe have better screens, more ports, etc, and probably be cheaper. That $100 savings makes it much easier to justify upgrading when this market truly gets competitive.
I disagree, I don't think we can compare toe to toe with laptop like that.
x86 tech vs ARM tech is completely different.
1GB RAM for x86 vs 1GB RAM for ARM should not be the same.
And the touch screen itself can be the deciding factor on the price!
Also the screen technology, IPS display, PLS display, TFT, SLCD ... Gorilla Glass, King Kong glass, etc.
You should know that high end screen tech like IPS and PLS are expensive!
Try to make a laptop with that spec
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I disagree. Tablets in general are WAY overpriced right now. If you compare what you're getting compared to a similarly priced laptop.... smaller screen, slower CPU, no keyboard, less memory, fewer ports, less upgradability, less expensive software, the only thing you get in a tablet that you DON'T get in a typical laptop is a touchscreen. A tablet is going to cost much less to produce than a similarly priced laptop. The only reason they sell them for what they do is because they can, due to the current state of the tablet market. In another year or two, we will all be embarrassed for what we paid for these.
But if you look at the market, probably the biggest competition for the Samsung is the Transformer. It's $400, has a microSD slot, HDMI port, and an optional keyboard that turns it into a netbook with extended battery life and additional ports. The only significant advantage the Samsung has is the form factor: it's about 3/16 of an inch thinner. Whether or not the slimmer sexier design is worth the trade-off in the extra features the Transformer offers is going to be up to the needs of the individual. But losing those features AND paying 25% more, just to get something a little slimmer? That's pushing it. The Transformer is a much better comparison than the Ipad2, because there's no logic in what people will pay for an Apple product. The Gtab is not an Apple.
The only reason I'm still following the Gtab is because of the $400 rumor. If it ends up sticking to the $500 price previously announced, I'll stick with my current Transformer pre-order. In another year or so, they will probably all be at least as svelt as the Gtab, they'll be twice as fast, they'll be running Ice Cream Sandwich, maybe have better screens, more ports, etc, and probably be cheaper. That $100 savings makes it much easier to justify upgrading when this market truly gets competitive.
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I disagree. Tablets in general are WAY overpriced right now. If you compare what you're getting compared to a similarly priced laptop.... smaller screen, slower CPU, no keyboard, less memory, fewer ports, less upgradability, less expensive software, the only thing you get in a tablet that you DON'T get in a typical laptop is a touchscreen. A tablet is going to cost much less to produce than a similarly priced laptop. The only reason they sell them for what they do is because they can, due to the current state of the tablet market. In another year or two, we will all be embarrassed for what we paid for these.
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This is the premium we've always paid for miniaturization. Some people will give the same argument about laptops over desktops. There is always the price to pay to make things smaller, lighter, and more portable.
Also while the hardware specs are lower, the software requirements are also lower.
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But if you look at the market, probably the biggest competition for the Samsung is the Transformer. It's $400, has a microSD slot, HDMI port, and an optional keyboard that turns it into a netbook with extended battery life and additional ports. The only significant advantage the Samsung has is the form factor: it's about 3/16 of an inch thinner. Whether or not the slimmer sexier design is worth the trade-off in the extra features the Transformer offers is going to be up to the needs of the individual. But losing those features AND paying 25% more, just to get something a little slimmer? That's pushing it. The Transformer is a much better comparison than the Ipad2, because there's no logic in what people will pay for an Apple product. The Gtab is not an Apple.
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The Transformer is a cool tablet. I did enjoy it. But in my eyes it has a lot of small flaws and quality issues. But probably worst is I didn't care for it's form factor and overall design. Too wide, ugly bezel, crap speakers in poor position. The microSD, mini HDMI, and keyboard dock together just doesn't quite make up for all the other problems I had with the Transformer.
Form factor is huge. I have to hold this thing in my hands and may do it for two or three hours at a time. It's got to be something I want to hold. The Transformer was certainly lighter than the Xoom. But it still wasn't something I was all that crazy about holding.
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The only reason I'm still following the Gtab is because of the $400 rumor. If it ends up sticking to the $500 price previously announced, I'll stick with my current Transformer pre-order. In another year or so, they will probably all be at least as svelt as the Gtab, they'll be twice as fast, they'll be running Ice Cream Sandwich, maybe have better screens, more ports, etc, and probably be cheaper. That $100 savings makes it much easier to justify upgrading when this market truly gets competitive.
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The Galaxy Tab went up for pre-order at jr.com for $500-$600, so I think the rumor is dead.
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x86 tech vs ARM tech is completely different.
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I agree. x86 is going to be more expensive, especially once you consider they typically come with a heatsink/fan, and often require a separate video processor.
1GB RAM for x86 vs 1GB RAM for ARM should not be the same.
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RAM is RAM. But it's more expensive in a laptop because they typically have more, and they are typically in a slot with an access panel, etc., rather than directly soldered on the main board.
And the touch screen itself can be the deciding factor on the price!
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You think a capacitive touchscreen costs significantly more to produce than a mechanical keyboard + touchpad?
[/quote]Also the screen technology, IPS display, PLS display, TFT, SLCD ... Gorilla Glass, King Kong glass, etc. You should know that high end screen tech like IPS and PLS are expensive!
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There are laptops with IPS screens already. Even on the ones that don't, a typical laptop is going to have around 50% more screen area, or more. That's likely going to more than offset any product cost difference in screen technologies. And glass?!? Do you really think a small sheet of gorrilla glass is expensive, when buying 100k of them? These things you list are fairly trivial when you compare the cost to manufacture something that is mechanically much more complex, with removable hard drives, upgradable memory, removable batteries, active cooling systems, etc.
But we'll see where the prices of tablets go over the next couple of years, vs. laptops. ;-)
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This is the premium we've always paid for miniaturization. Some people will give the same argument about laptops over desktops. There is always the price to pay to make things smaller, lighter, and more portable.
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I agree with this to an extent, but in the case of a tablet, it is a fairly monolithic device. It can cost more to make something mechanically complex smaller, but a tablet can be produced cheaper than a laptop, because it's just a sandwich of mostly immobile components. They will retain a premium until competition ramps up, and the price starts to be dictated by how cheap they can produce them while still making a profit, rather than what they can sell them for just because there's suddenly a huge demand for them.
Also while the hardware specs are lower, the software requirements are also lower.
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Understood. But that doesn't change the fact that a much more complex CPU costs more to produce than a simple one. And Honeycomb costs lest than Windows 7. ;-)
The Transformer is a cool tablet. I did enjoy it. But in my eyes it has a lot of small flaws and quality issues.
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Yes, I don't discount that. But some have claimed great build quality with their transformers. So it seems more of an issue of quality control, rather than inherent component quality. That could simply be an issue of Asus trying to push these out as fast as they can right now. They KNOW the clock is ticking. Competition is right on their heels. They're trying to sell as many as they can while they have a relatively captive audience. Right now, they are going for MSRP, or more. I don't know about you, but I rarely pay MSRP on consumer electronic devices. If it's not at least 25% below MSRP, I don't feel like I'm getting a good deal. And you can bet these will quickly get to 25% below, and even lower, as competition ramps up. Everyone is trying to sell these as fast as they can while they can still enjoy that premium. We can't yet say Samsung won't also have some issues in the beginning.
But probably worst is I didn't care for it's form factor and overall design. Too wide... Form factor is huge
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Yes, I understand, which is exactly why I was waiting to see where the Samsung price fell. I too would like something slimmer, I just don't think it's prudent for me to pay $100 more for it at this stage in the market. Tegra3 is supposed to come out this fall, Samsung has already shown prototypes of 2560x1600 superbright 10.1" displays.... this market is in the infant stage, and will likely mature a lot over the next couple of years. It seems more wise for ME to be frugal at this point, because I'll likely want to upgrade in a year or so.
The Transformer was certainly lighter than the Xoom. But it still wasn't something I was all that crazy about holding.
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And look at the size of the Viewsonic before that. These things have evolved very quickly over the past 6 months. Samsung's tablet got downsized before it even got released!
The Galaxy Tab went up for pre-order at jr.com for $500-$600, so I think the rumor is dead.
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Yep. There's still a chance it'll come down by the time it gets released, but I agree that it's not looking good. But no problem, I'll make due with the Transformer and be $100 ahead when I start looking at the G2 devices.
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You think a capacitive touchscreen costs significantly more to produce than a mechanical keyboard + touchpad?
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Yes, otherwise all laptops will have (capacitive) touchscreen, nicer IPS/PLS screen, Gorilla glass, etc.
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These things you list are fairly trivial when you compare the cost to manufacture something that is mechanically much more complex, with removable hard drives, upgradable memory, removable batteries, active cooling systems, etc.
But we'll see where the prices of tablets go over the next couple of years, vs. laptops. ;-)
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Sure, when the tablet is becoming more popular, adapted by more people. Price will go down. That's the basic of supply vs demand.
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Yes, otherwise all laptops will have (capacitive) touchscreen, nicer IPS/PLS screen, Gorilla glass, etc.
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Laptops don't have Gorilla Glass because they don't need it, though some do have IPS screens. You can also find some with touchscreens, but if you read the reviews, you find that many don't consider it much of an advantage, because it's awkward switching from keyboard input to touchscreen. Reviews of the Transformer have touched on this, saying they're glad it has a touchpad, because that makes more sense when using a keyboard. These items just aren't as important on a laptop.
Sure, when the tablet is becoming more popular, adapted by more people. Price will go down. That's the basic of supply vs demand.
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And that's been my whole point. Tablets cost what they cost because of supply/demand, not because they are expensive to make. If I were smart, I wouldn't buy ANY tablet until the market has had a chance to stablize. It's brand new right now, and is going through higher than normal evolution. But if I'm not going to be smart, and instead pay the supply/demand premium for something I'll likely want to replace in a year or so, it's at least a little less dumb to get the more valuable choice, as opposed to the sexier but more expensive choice.
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And that's been my whole point. Tablets cost what they cost because of supply/demand, not because they are expensive to make. If I were smart, I wouldn't buy ANY tablet until the market has had a chance to stablize. It's brand new right now, and is going through higher than normal evolution. But if I'm not going to be smart, and instead pay the supply/demand premium for something I'll likely want to replace in a year or so, it's at least a little less dumb to get the more valuable choice, as opposed to the sexier but more expensive choice.
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Early adopters are always going to pay a premiumn price if they want to use leading edge products. I do not belive it is a supply and demand related. It is simply a new product and companies are trying to recoup their R&D costs.
Same thing happened several years ago with HDTV's were launched. Yes, LCD rear projection HDTV's were the leading edge ($4,500). Today some five - six years later an LED HDTV ($1600).
We all know whatever electronics we buy today it will be faster and cheaper the following year. So, one can always sit on the fence and wait until the next best thing comes along. ;-) or take the plunge when you are comfortable with the price.
I cant agree with the whole new technology thing. what doesn't make sense Is that smartphones have been around for a long time now yet my captivate no contract cost 599 its not new technology just better
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We all know whatever electronics we buy today it will be faster and cheaper the following year. So, one can always sit on the fence and wait until the next best thing comes along.
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Understood. Though the current flux of the tablet market is much greater than is typical for other technologies. The HDTV market you compared to has been evolving over the past decade. The Viewsonic G tablet just came out about six months ago, and cost $400 up until just a few months ago. Now it's $275. The original question was whether or not the Samsung should be priced less than $500. $500 puts it on par with the Ipad 2, and $100 higher than the (more comparable, IMO) Transformer, which while not as svelte, adds SD and HDMI. And the Samsung is still at least three weeks from becoming available. Tegra 3 is supposed to be ready by fall, with "5x" the performance. Given the timing, the fast pace that this market is moving, and the competition, $500 just doesn't seem very competitive to me.
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I literally just put my order in about 3 days ago and will see my TF on Thursday, but I'm having second thoughts. A friend of mine just got his TF in today, and - well I dunno, I'm not all that impressed.
Out of the box came with the speaker issue (one side is louder than the other). The sound wasn't all that loud
Screen brightness was kind of low
The sharp edges were cutting my fingers
So I started to have a read about the differences between the Transformer & the Galaxy tab in the Galaxy Tab section. However, I think everyone posting there is biased toward the tab because they are now tab fanboys posting in their forum.
A few things I do like about the TF. Price of $399 (unbeatable) Expandable ports, dock option, memory slot, hdmi out, 5mpx camera. Do I think I'll use all of that (except price)? Probably not.
A few things I like about the Tab. Same size screen with less bulk, thinner, lighter, rounded edges, very solid build quality. Do I think its worth an extra $100 for these items? I think so. Plus I know the resale value will definitely be there because its a well known brand.
I haven't made up my mind completely on this but im about 80% of the way there in returning my TF and going with the Tab.
Thoughts, comments?
Nobody can decide for you. Do whatever you are happiest with.
Having used a hybrid tablet/netbook like the Transformer, I would never buy a tablet-only device.
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It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...
Hi mate,
I have had the TF since release day and to be honest I'm very happy with it. It does what I need it to do very well: reading books, browse internet, playing games, plays movies (although there are some issues).
On the other hand I don't need and I will never get the dock, simply because if I wanted a netbook there are much better options on the market. And I have one of them as well.
Because of that I'm waiting to see the Galaxy Tab in real life, hold it in my hands. And if that offers everything that I need and is better than the TF I might go for it.
So good luck choosing! Let us know what you go for.
rio
PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status
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PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status
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Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.
Some people like smaller I would not be able to stand a 7" tablet or laptop without optical media. My motto has always been its the size/shape that makes it portable it doesn't matter if its 20lbs its still light and easy to move around. But then again I compare it with moving around 300-400lbs.
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Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.
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Gtab. 10.1 also with build issues. Many are suffering from Newton rings. Dust under screen. Colors are way oversaturated.....
If u want android in an ipad like body then go Samsung. If Samsung would have made the device 1 or 2 mm thicker and put in micro SD and HDMI they also would have been able to prevent the Newton ring issue and have the one killer tablet.
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1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
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I don't know how you can say that really.... there hasn't been any major updates for Samsung to pass onto the Tablets. The only time when you'll be able to use that point is when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. I'd say that 1/2 months is a good enough turn around for manufacturers to update their devices a major version.
I'd also like to note that I have a Galaxy S. While Americans are still using Eclair because of their crappy carriers wanting to hack the firmware to bits, us using unbranded european devices got Gingerbread before any other device (bar the Nexus devices). Samsung know what they are doing.
The way I see it, from my experience with the TF is this:
16GB is not enough. My music alone is near this and more. Since there is no additional storage options on the GT, you are going to have to opt for a 32GB or more which equals greater $$$ to spend. But sacrifices could be made...
So, I would say the dock is the real reason to get this thing. If you are not too excited about the dock, I wouldn't bother. The GT excels in design, but the TF excels in utility and value.
If the "sharp edges" of the Transformer are really "cutting [your] fingers," that's a physical problem with the device (or your fingers, I guess!).
Buy sleeve m8,than will be perfect
Your not the first to have these concerns. I bought the tf and was considering selling it for a tab. But what you've stated (price, microsd, HDMI out, and KB option) kept me from doing so.
I played with the tab for an hour or so and still prefer my tf. I didn't like the button placement on the tab, (they're in a more natural placement on the tf.
I did have the speaker issue on my tf but it was an easy fix. Just root it (there's a very well written guide by yours truly ;-)) and read up on the thread in the development section and it's as easy as editing a txt file.
If the edges bother you, grab a case, I'm currently using the roocase multi-angle which I got from amazon for under $30.
Other than that the only downside of the tf I see is the charger. Proprietary connection, short cable and sometimes the adapter doesn't want to work.
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I was in the same boat. I traded my iPad2 for an Android tablet and had lots of offers. I was looking at the Galaxy Tab and thought it was for me until I found that it didn't have any expansion ports like the iPad2. It is one of the reasons why I HATED the iPad2 because you had to carry around the special USB cable to sync it... then you needed special software for it to work...
Screw all that. I need to be able to quickly get files on and off the my tablet. I don't want to have to rely on another computer or a computer with special software to read my stuff.
90% of the time you'll have access to a Home or Work PC which you will probably have setup properly... but trust me... you WILL find yourself somewhere needing to pull a picture off or text or an attachment or something and you'll be stuck. It will happen more often the more you use it.
Plus the price point. I was trading my iPad2 for whichever I wanted. Did I need the keyboard dock? No. Will I use the keyboard dock often? No. Is it badass? Yes.
The keyboard dock has an additional battery that will charge the tablet battery when docked. It also increases the functionality of the tab.
Both tablets are identical in hardware except the Transformer has lots of additional ports. microSD is a must and HDMI out is actually very handy for throwing pictures, movies, games, etc on a larger screen.
I just can't see buying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same price as you could buy the Transformer + Dock.
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It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...
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I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.
My experience is that I just bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB about 5 days ago. I played with it over night and returned it the next day.
The following day, I purchased the Transformer 16GB and a dock for $50.00 more.
Now that I've owned the TF for 3-4 days, I'm very satisfied with it for many reasons:
- Multiple media input/out options: mini HDMI out, x2 USB ports, and SD/MMC card reader. - Will work perfectly with my Nikon P100's SD card and I can use a external HDD and plug it right into the USB port if I want to watch my movies.
- Dock acts as extended battery: I also tether my HTC Thunderbolt and plug it into the dock to keep a charge on my Thunderbolt while tethering my 4G to the Transformer.(SO MUCH WIN!!!)
- Having a keyboard when I want to compose an email is x100 better than thumbing my words through the tab. - I still use the touchscreen kb for somethings.
- Dock/keyboard has shortcut buttons which I take advantage of all the time.
- Textured casing makes handling the tablet/net book very secure and eliminates any smudges.
*I do not see where in the world you could cut your hand/finger on the tablet or the docking station. - You should tell your friend to get an RMA because there's something wrong with the one he has. Either that or he may need to see a dermatologist about amyloidosis, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.
Re: Samsung Galaxy 10.1
I chose that tablet first because of the sleek design. I was extremely impressed with the way that Samsung engineered the design.
HOWEVER, no more than 1-2 hours after playing with it, I came back to my senses and see how limited I was with any options. Not only does it look like an iPad but it also has all the shortcomings in hardware that the iPad does.
I have had a few Android devices and so it's practically a religion to have a microSD card for my stuff. Samsung decided to cut back on adding any option to extend storage and that was a the biggest decider for me. - All the selling points that a Android tablet has in terms of hardware-media expansion was nerfed on latest Galaxy Tab. Did Samsung want to imitate Apple so much that they even decided to try and sell a tab that requires additional parts to make it comparable to all other tablets?
In the end, this is only my real life opinion having owned both devices and what I still have now is the Asus Transformer.
Once I used the keyboard/dock with my tablet, I can not imagine another tablet without this option. Asus did a decent job in engineering the look/feel of the tab with the dock/keyboard.
*I did have to return both tab and dock/keyboard to Best Buy until I found the right Best Buy which had B60 as my previous ones were B50.
Good lucking in making your decision. If you buy it at Best Buy, you can at least return it in 14 days without restocking fee and get the other one. If you felt that first one was better than you can simply return it again and go back to the other model. I am in NO WAY suggesting to abuse a return policy but it's there and it works as mentioned.
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I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.
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Of course the closer together glass in the gtab has led to the oil blob effect for Many
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I've had my TF since right after it launched in the US and I do love it. With that being said, I do plan on picking up a galaxy tab tomorrow, the last day that you can use the $50 off coupon for any tablet at staples.
The TF definately has the advantage when it comes to storage, because of the SD card and dock if you want to buy it, which I have no interest in. The galaxy tab however has a great form factor and from my limited use with one seems to have snappier performance than my TF, even though they have almost idendical specs, and my TF is overclocked. I also prefer the screen on the tab compared to the TF.
Honestly I think that the OP will be happy with either one. My only real gripe against the TF is that the majority of them seem to suufer from light bleed or some manufacturing defect, thankfully I only have minimal bleed, and that Asus has been slow with delivering on most of the official accessories that they promised months ago. I really want the desktop dock, which is readily available for the GT at a reasonable price.
I will say that if the galaxy tab disappoints me in any way during my return window, I will gladly buy a second TF after returning it.
I own the TF since late May...only problem I have with it is that the right speaker is louder than the left.
This past Sunday I bought the Galaxy Tab for someone and yeah it looks very nice it's thinner and lighter, but it seemed to have less options than the TF (specially within the browser settings.) The browser actually froze up on me and didn't want to display any pages. Didn't like that fact that it doesn't have an external microSD slot! I ended up returning it 2 hours later because the person preferred a laptop! My short experience with it wasn't good
One of the big problems with the iPad other than overheating and under charging is it's poor portability. If you want to use it outside the home then you need a big bag similar to a laptop bag to carry it. The 7.7 easily fits in ladies handbags and fits in jacket pockets making it very portable.
Because the iPad3 is mostly house bound then you need to compare it with other mostly house bound devices such as laptops, netbooks, ultrabooks etc. where it does not fare well.
What is the point of this post, may I ask? Preaching to the converted?
Thanks for your random op/ed.
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What is the point of this post, may I ask? Preaching to the converted?
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What right have you to question the appropriateness of other people's posts?
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What right have you to question the appropriateness of other people's posts?
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Welcome to the internet!
I think he is just haring that the Tab7.7 has better portability and I agree with him, no other tablet can rival its portability.
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I think he is just haring that the Tab7.7 has better portability and I agree with him, no other tablet can rival its portability.
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Perhaps the GT 7.0?
Just joking no offence
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Perhaps the GT 7.0?
Just joking no offence
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Lol its a thicker device!
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Lol its a thicker device!
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My bad
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I just saw somebody holding a GT 7.0, and yes, the 0.7" make a difference, especially in a case. However, I don't really mind the extra waist of my 7.7.
I too find anything larger than 7.7 to be a bit cumbersome.
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There can be little doubt that the 7.7 tab is more portable than the iPad and for me that was the main reason I got it over the iPad3. Not counting the size and form factor advantage the 7.7 has the iPad3 is the better device in most other areas.
Give me an 8.5 inch screen with 1920x1200 resolution in a package about the same size as the 7.7 and I'd be even happier. And, I'd even PREFER it to be about 1mm thicker for two reasons: first, room for an even bigger battery; and second, I think the 7.7 is a little TOO thin and being a bit thicker would make it easier to hold by the edges.
The iPad is too close in size to a small notebook so it's hardly any more portable than that. The 7.7 is smaller than a sheet of paper (8.5x11) folded in half -- or about the size of a paperback book.
Brian
I've got a cheap Chinese 7 inch tablet as well my 7.7 and i've got to say the .7 really does make a difference in terms of portability. The 7" one fits much more easily in a pocket anss is a lot lighter.
Oh, and the "cheapo" chinese tablet is on ICS and has much more flexible connections than the Sammy.
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I've got a cheap Chinese 7 inch tablet as well my 7.7 and i've got to say the .7 really does make a difference in terms of portability. The 7" one fits much more easily in a pocket anss is a lot lighter.
Oh, and the "cheapo" chinese tablet is on ICS and has much more flexible connections than the Sammy.
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flexible connections ? like what ? can i know the model number thingking of getting 1 as a remote for my htpc and whats the resolution ?
This 7.7 slides easily on my jeans front pocket lol
Everytime I pull it out, people are looking with a confused face 'where in the world thit that huge slab came from' = priceless
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This 7.7 slides easily on my jeans front pocket lol
Everytime I pull it out, people are looking with a confused face 'where in the world thit that huge slab came from' = priceless
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So true but the question I always get is "is that an ipad?" A bit anoying but I always tell them "no its better " lol!!!
Using Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800
geogetski666 said:
flexible connections ? like what ? can i know the model number thingking of getting 1 as a remote for my htpc and whats the resolution ?
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Hi, well the device i got was this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Capacitive-Gingerbread-Responsive/forum/Fx1DBIDSXCYCEJH/-/1/ref=cm_cd_f_h_dp_t?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006M07X34 Not sure if you can get that where you are, it is a pretty generic android tablet. But it is surpisingly well made and works fine. It is slightly thicker than the 7.7 but noticeably lighter and narrower, which makes it easier to hold in one hand and put in a pocket.
In terms of the connections it has an easily reached microsd slot (no fiddly cover which feels like it is going to snap off any minute), a built-in HDMI (output to 1080), a mini-usb, 3,5 audio and a seperate power in.
The bit that I like is that I can use HDMI directly without having to pass-through the power cord. I can also use all the connections seperately. So in terms of your htpc question, it has actually replace mine. Bluetooth dongle for keyboard/mouse, hdmi to TV, power in or not, wifi connected streaming directly or from files on my PC.
The single proprietary IN on the 7.7 is a bind as far as I am concerned.
It came with 2.3.4 gingerbread on it but there are ICS 4.0.3 FWs to upgrade to - from the manufacturer.
The res is a "lowly" 800x480 but it works for me.
For £100 it is well worth the money, certainly compared to products from a certain company that thinks it sits somewhere on the right hand of whichever deity you might adhere to.
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Hi, well the device i got was this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Capacitive-Gingerbread-Responsive/forum/Fx1DBIDSXCYCEJH/-/1/ref=cm_cd_f_h_dp_t?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006M07X34 Not sure if you can get that where you are, it is a pretty generic android tablet. But it is surpisingly well made and works fine. It is slightly thicker than the 7.7 but noticeably lighter and narrower, which makes it easier to hold in one hand and put in a pocket.
In terms of the connections it has an easily reached microsd slot (no fiddly cover which feels like it is going to snap off any minute), a built-in HDMI (output to 1080), a mini-usb, 3,5 audio and a seperate power in.
The bit that I like is that I can use HDMI directly without having to pass-through the power cord. I can also use all the connections seperately. So in terms of your htpc question, it has actually replace mine. Bluetooth dongle for keyboard/mouse, hdmi to TV, power in or not, wifi connected streaming directly or from files on my PC.
The single proprietary IN on the 7.7 is a bind as far as I am concerned.
It came with 2.3.4 gingerbread on it but there are ICS 4.0.3 FWs to upgrade to - from the manufacturer.
The res is a "lowly" 800x480 but it works for me.
For £100 it is well worth the money, certainly compared to products from a certain company that thinks it sits somewhere on the right hand of whichever deity you might adhere to.
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I have the 7.7 but would not mind it being a tad thicker if that meant an even bigger battery. I would like the bezels to be smaller making it easier to hold on the sides and, once again, I think being a tad thicker would help here as well. But 800x480 -- NO F'n WAY! Not interested.
The Android makers are in a bind with Apple at one end eating up the premium dollars and the Kindle/Nook and Chinese knock offs at the other end driving the price down to unprofitable levels. The 7.7 is expensive and will likely not sell well even though the display is top of the heap and the size and form factor make it more usable than the iPad. When Apple pushes out the 7.85 tab that will be the final nail in the Android tab coffin...
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But 800x480 -- NO F'n WAY! Not interested.
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Ha, ha, ha. Yes, it really makes a world of difference
Oh, and I happen to be in the electronic component distribution industry, I can tell you the final nail in the coffin will be when the manufacturers persist in ripping the public with their vastly inflated prices. Maybe people will fall off the Apple hype wagon ahd those trying to copy them will be forced to re-evaluate their business models. Bring on the kindles and Chinese 'knock offs' (knocking what off I don't know but hey, let's stereotype why not?).
I love my 7.7 but then I didn't pay for it...
The 0.7 inch does make a difference. I had the GT 7 for a year and waited for the 7.7 for a long time for its beautiful screen the thinness. Now that I have it, it is just a tad too big. It will fit in the pants pocket but not as comfortable as the GT7.
Now, all I need is the 7 with AMOLED screen andless than 7mm thick. Next year's Super GT 7 I guess
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When Apple pushes out the 7.85 tab that will be the final nail in the Android tab coffin...
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Thats funny. As much as I like the iPad, I think the 7.85 form factor is going to be a tougher battle for Apple than the 10". I certainly won't be buying one. I tried the GT 10.1 and that is just too big, not comfortable at all.
To me between 7 to 10 (only in the 4:3 aspect ratio of the iPAD, not 16:9) is the ideal size for a tablet. And the Android devices certainly offer more choices in that range.
If Apple is smart they'd sell the 7.85 at cost to get a large percentage of the market. After all, they make 30% off of the apps and media they sell so they can sell the 7.85 at cost, kill Android in the process, and still make money from apps and media. They won't be able to so easily do this in the smart phone space, but tablets are another thing and Apple, if they play things smart, could kill Android in tablets and still profit.
When I say kill Android I'm not counting the Kindle or Nook and maybe some of the cheap Chinese ones but the major players looking to build quality tabs will not be able to do so AND make a profit...
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Been looking for something like this for quite sometime but couldn't find it anywhere, hence posting here.
http://www.amazon.com/Mophie-Rechargeable-Battery-Verizon-iPhone/dp/B0046EBTQ0
http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-air-iPhone-4-4S-battery-case-p/1145_jpa-ip4-blk.htm
Any idea where can I find one for N4?
I've been thinking the same thing myself. My only concern is that as the iPhone is so widely available that the accessories will be made for it, but will a company make accessories for a platform with such a wide range of devices?
These r available for Samsung phones too, since they r popular as well. But then again, so is N4.. I just hope we get such a case. I used to carry one with 4s and it was really very handy, compared to portable battery packs.
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I have never seen a case like this before. I have been waiting for a hardback card carrying case. But if something like this became available I would defiantly get this instead.
I liked the rugged protection of the PRO case and how they redirect the speaker to the front of the phone. So annoying holding your hand against the back of your phone to try and hear things better
These types of cases are notorious for breaking your USB port in your phone. However, I'd LOVE to have a Qi version of one of these things. Then it shouldn't add a significant amount of height to your phone, mostly just thickness as expected.
I have used such a case for 4s for over a year.. I surely stopped working after that but it was for $ 20 only so u cannot complain really.
filthykid said:
Been looking for something like this for quite sometime but couldn't find it anywhere, hence posting here.
http://www.amazon.com/Mophie-Rechargeable-Battery-Verizon-iPhone/dp/B0046EBTQ0
http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-air-iPhone-4-4S-battery-case-p/1145_jpa-ip4-blk.htm
Any idea where can I find one for N4?
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Here's one I saw in another thread. It's bulky and expensive imo. I emailed them to ask if they could make one for half the size and battery for half the price. Well see. On a side note I think these kind of companies should add usb slots to easily add hdd and stuff .
http://www.shapeways.com/model/937654/nexus-4-5000mah-charger.html?li=productBox-search
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Here's one I saw in another thread. It's bulky and expensive imo. I emailed them to ask if they could make one for half the size and battery for half the price. Well see. On a side note I think these kind of companies should add usb slots to easily add hdd and stuff .
http://www.shapeways.com/model/937654/nexus-4-5000mah-charger.html?li=productBox-search
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They responded and apparently they already have a smaller version. It's still too pricey for the use I personally would get out of it. Anyone else interested? Has usb port built in to.
http://custompowersolar.com/lg.html
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frigidazzi said:
Here's one I saw in another thread. It's bulky and expensive imo. I emailed them to ask if they could make one for half the size and battery for half the price. Well see. On a side note I think these kind of companies should add usb slots to easily add hdd and stuff .
http://www.shapeways.com/model/937654/nexus-4-5000mah-charger.html?li=productBox-search
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holly cow lol no it's like carrying a dock around. i'd rather carry my battery pack. beside it's quite pricey I'd wait for a more proper one lol..
Custom Power Solar integrated chargers
michael_ta315 said:
holly cow lol no it's like carrying a dock around. i'd rather carry my battery pack. beside it's quite pricey I'd wait for a more proper one lol..
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Hi-
We've recently added the USB power out port on selected versions of our chargers - primarily the thinner lighter versions. You can charge any devices up to 2A. The Nexus version we've made in a 1250 & 2500mah slim (15mm) version - besides the standard 5000mah version which is 21mm thick. The thinner versions are much lighter as well - less than 1/2 the weight.
What are you looking for in terms of features/price?
Here are the Nexus 4 versions:
custompowersolar.com - produtcs - LG
We make the cases using 3D printing, so can be easily customized. You can get a full color image printed on the case with our Sculpteo partner. Devlivery time is typically 5-10 days depending on options - many units we have in stock.
We also make versions for iphone5 in 1500mah and 5000mah, Galaxy S3, HTC DNA, iphone 4/4s, iPad and iPad Mini.
All models also can be purchased with a camera/tripod mount - 1/4-20 screw holes on the side & bottom for easy attachment to a tripod.
The X Bracket allows you to mount any smartphone to a tripod - we also have a ball swivel, bike mount, and hang glider mount.
If you have something special you want, contact us - we're having too much fun designing and building products with 3D printers.
Any one have experience with these cases I'm thinking about trying one
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