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It no likey 720p mkv

Looks like she doesn't like 720p mkv video. Rock player (old version) plays at like 5fps. Meridian locks up and video player doesn't support that file type with this phone. Could it be this phone isn't meant to be a good multimedia phone?

Heh, I'm emailing devs with logs a lot with progs that aren't working. Ya gotta love new phones!

'vplayer' works rock solid for me (no pun intended!)... the alpha one (yeah, I ante'd up and paid the donation, well the first 100 user donation that is...even though the devel had said it would stay free forever, I love the app and felt he earned compensation). I use it on the Tab (Sprint) i have gratis (thanks to work).
I played a mkv of old school 720p and and a hi-def wmv (pr0n, lol) ..both work fine w/ 0 lag. All my xvids and flv's and mp4's have worked flawlessly. I ripped the old school file myself from a hd-dvd copy I had used handbrake on, a longgg time ago.
Ill try some other mkv's that are newer...Girl With a Dragon Tattoo...and a few others when I have some time away from work.
I'm thoroughly impressed...of course, I was stuck back on a TP2/WM 6.5 for a handset, so of course I stand to be impressed, lol. I was using my lappy for any mkv / 'hi-def' content prior.
Cheers!

I'm downloading it now. I deleted the mkv I had on the phone darn it. The first two episodes of stargate universe. I hope they release the swiss army knife of media players, vlc on android. Yeah I know thats actually perian catch phrase.

I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.

There must be a way to install additional codes on the Evo's though. The Epic does it so well probably due to the GPU.
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I don't have a Shift yet, but am hoping to shortly.
What bitrate does the phone record the high def videos as? Whatever bitrate/audio rate the phone records at, it probably plays back those same files without hiccups. If so, try compressing your videos to the exact same bitrate and see if that works.

You have a good point and that would probably work. One problem would be it would be a pain in the ass to convert anything you want to watch. It can record in 720p but I know that the video and audio bitrate isn't as good or high as hdtv 720p mkv's.

herbthehammer said:
I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.
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Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
Sent from my cm7 Evo 4G!

I just remembered a funny old question. Okay, so this machine is the fastest and most powerful available. Will I notice a difference when I use microsoft office?

kenvan19 said:
Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
Sent from my cm7 Evo 4G!
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Also, just used vPlayer to test 1080p avi playback and it was flawless.

I just ran videospec on a file and it said its video bitrate was 3693 Kbps. That's a lot of information trying to go through a small pipe...
With 720x480 dvds I encode with handbrake, I usually don't go higher than 2000kbps. The phones usually don't have a problem with that speed in playback.

720P Playback horrible?

Hey guys,
So they boast about the 1080p playback on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, however I haven't had much luck with this. I tried putting on two different 720p video files on and both of them have sub-par playback.
One of them is an MP4 with h.264 and it plays okay on the default video (gallery) player but theres a bit of a stutter and doesn't play extremely well.
The other is an h.264 MKV and that doesn't even play audio in certain cases and the video doesn't play well at all under the default gallery application.
I tried three other media players - rock media player, Vplayer, and doubletwist and none of them play it any better. I find it sort of strange that it's having trouble handling these sorts of files. I can maybe understand the MKV file but the standard MP4 file is a little concerning

I find Vital Player performs better than the ones you have already mentioned. QQplayer is ok sometimes too and I've heard people talking about drobo player but I have not tried yet.

VitalPlayer played my mp4 a little better almost perfect with hardware decoding, however the mkv was still problematic :-/

Try:
MoboPlayer
and
MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.

50-3 said:
Try:
MoboPlayer
and
MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.
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It's not a software flaw , it'tegra limitation to playback high profiles encoded files. Tegra allow hardware decoding of main profile Encode file only.

50-3 said:
Try:
MoboPlayer
and
MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.
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Interesting, I haven't tried MoboPlayer yet but I will give it a go tonight. In regards to the cpu being on interactive. What?! Really? I was trying to find a reason to root and that might be one is to put it on OnDemand.
aefelix said:
It's not a software flaw , it'tegra limitation to playback high profiles encoded files. Tegra allow hardware decoding of main profile Encode file only.
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What exactly do you mean by this? I'm having trouble understanding your last statement.

kentoe said:
What exactly do you mean by this? I'm having trouble understanding your last statement.
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I think he's saying that altering your CPU probably wont make much of a difference since it's the lack of GPU hardware decoding for high profile encoded videos that's likely causing any kind of stuttering. In short, it's not your CPU's fault or Honeycomb's fault, it's your GPU's fault.

RickBaller said:
I think he's saying that altering your CPU probably wont make much of a difference since it's the lack of GPU hardware decoding for high profile encoded videos that's likely causing any kind of stuttering. In short, it's not your CPU's fault or Honeycomb's fault, it's your GPU's fault.
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Interesting, I find it odd though that when selecting hardware in certain players it does play better. But when selecting software in some players it plays better than other players hardware. It just seems like some sort of issue that isn't really making much sense.

Yeah, moboplayer wasn't any better either :-/

It is Tegra limitation and it is a problem for ALL Tegra 2 based tablets.
Go to any forum Xoom, Transformer, Adam Ink... i is general issue.
If one wants to play movies (and do other "super advanced stuff") one should have buy a previus generation tablet like Galaxy Tab 7" or Archos, etc.
Some of us still hope that retail GT 10.1 will come in with Exynos CPU instead of Tegra. If not it, than quite a lot of phones will be more powerfull than Tegra 2 tablet computers.
+ none of new tabs is divix certified like some of the old ones were :-(
I wonder how will TouchPad perform in that matter?
If GT 10.1 is indeed Tegra 2 based I am in trouble.
Watching movies (in bed) is quite important to me.
I will either wait for 10" HTC or Amazon tablet (gossip goes it will have Kal-El inside) or I'll just get iPad 2 (seems to be more capable in that regard than new Android tablets).

galtom said:
It is Tegra limitation and it is a problem for ALL Tegra 2 based tablets.
Go to any forum Xoom, Transformer, Adam Ink... i is general issue.
If one wants to play movies (and do other "super advanced stuff") one should have buy a previus generation tablet like Galaxy Tab 7" or Archos, etc.
Some of us still hope that retail GT 10.1 will come in with Exynos CPU instead of Tegra. If not it, than quite a lot of phones will be more powerfull than Tegra 2 tablet computers.
+ none of new tabs is divix certified like some of the old ones were :-(
I wonder how will TouchPad perform in that matter?
If GT 10.1 is indeed Tegra 2 based I am in trouble.
Watching movies (in bed) is quite important to me.
I will either wait for 10" HTC or Amazon tablet (gossip goes it will have Kal-El inside) or I'll just get iPad 2 (seems to be more capable in that regard than new Android tablets).
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Is the ipad2 better at video playback?

If jailbroken - YES.
Its CPU (by Samsung) is more capable than Tegra 2 .

galtom said:
If jailbroken - YES.
Its CPU (by Samsung) is more capable than Tegra 2 .
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I have the iPad2 and Asus Transformer which uses the Tegra 2. My iPad 2 is not jailbroken and it surpasses the Asus Transformer for video playback. My iPad2 plays High Profile 720p MP4 with the stock player, and with AVPlayerHD from the App Store, I can play High Profile 720p MKV and it will support embedded subtitles along with xvid/divx avi formats.
The Transformer chokes on anything High Profile. Sure you can use Moboplayer or Vital Player as they support subtitles, but they only support external subtitles and they still can't play High Profile.
Don't get me wrong here; I'm not an Apple fanboy at all. Just clearing up that iPad2 is the better video player period and does not need to be jailbroken to do so.

songmeesay said:
I have the iPad2 and Asus Transformer which uses the Tegra 2. My iPad 2 is not jailbroken and it surpasses the Asus Transformer for video playback. My iPad2 plays High Profile 720p MP4 with the stock player, and with AVPlayerHD from the App Store, I can play High Profile 720p MKV and it will support embedded along subtitles along with xvid/divx avi formats.
The Transformer chokes on anything High Profile. Sure you can use Moboplayer or Vital Player as they support subtitles, but they only support external subtitles and they still can't play High Profile.
Don't get me wrong here; I'm not an Apple fanboy at all. Just clearing up that iPad2 is the better video player period and does not need to be jailbroken to do so.
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How is the Ipad with youtube playback? It really bothers me that the tegra 2 tablets can't play videos in "hq" mode without horrible stuttering. I'm hoping 3.1 fixes this.

Ah, YouTube is a different story. The YouTube videos that the iPad can play are excellent... if they aren't Flash! However, there are browsers like Skyfire in the app market that plays flash but I haven't tried it yet. From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues. All in all for YouTube, the Asus has the upperhand especially if you watch YouTube on the stock browser.

songmeesay said:
Ah, YouTube is a different story. The YouTube videos that the iPad can play are excellent... if they aren't Flash! However, there are browsers like Skyfire in the app market that plays flash but I haven't tried it yet. From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues. All in all for YouTube, the Asus has the upperhand especially if you watch YouTube on the stock browser.
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I tried watching youtube videos on the transformer with the youtube application and it was pretty bad. That was a while ago, is it better now?
Sorry for the derail.

I'm having no problems with the couple videos I'm watching now through the YouTube app. The only problem I get with YouTube is, of course, the HD playback in the browser but again I believe the Xoom owners have reported 3.1 fixes that.

Video playback capabilities of these Tegra Honeycomb tablets is a bit frustrating! My SGSII plays video and handles in-browser flash better (as in much better). I guess I will be connecting my phone to my television when I want to watch 1080p video, rather than my tablet...

songmeesay said:
From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues.
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3.1 indeed helped with streaming performance (like YT) but mkv High Profile is still "no go"
NZtechfreak said:
Video playback capabilities of these Tegra Honeycomb tablets is a bit frustrating! My SGSII plays video and handles in-browser flash better (as in much better). I guess I will be connecting my phone to my television when I want to watch 1080p video, rather than my tablet...
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True... but in that case... why would I get a tablet?
Or (that will be the case for a lot of ppl.) if you can only afford one of those?
New (fully capable) smartphone or tablet (that can only do some of the thing phone can but has bigger screen). Which one?
Not, to mention... what is the point in creating device, a tablet COMPUTER that is beaten in functionality and performance by phone.
HEY!! Samsung, instead crappy 10.1v (or 10.1 if it is with Tegra) make Samsung Galaxy S II in XL size - that is all most of us needs right now (+ Honeycomb) - and we're sorted .

galtom said:
HEY!! Samsung, instead crappy 10.1v (or 10.1 if it is with Tegra) make Samsung Galaxy S II in XL size - that is all most of us needs right now (+ Honeycomb) - and we're sorted .
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Agreed, but to be honest with all these reviews of the I/O versions and those boasting Tegra2, it seems the new official 10.1 will have it. I'm really back and forth about returning my Transformer to try a new 10.1 out. I mean I only plan to keep either one until the Tegra3 Kal-el tablets start rolling in (Asus and Amazon rumored to roll some out this year). Financially it'd be smarter to just stick with my Transformer, but I've always been about design and build and the Samsung sure looks like it has the Transformer beat. Trade off for build and form factor are the loss of the microSD expansion though, which means (according to the J&R pre-order pricing) I'd have to spend $599 for a 32GB Sammy vs. the $399 16GB Transformer+$35 16GB class 10 microSD card.

What processor is the GT 8.9 using?

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P7310MAAXAR-specs
1080p playback, 3GP, MP4, AVI, WMV, FLV, MKV (Codec: MPEG4, H.263, Sorenson H.263, H.264, VC-1, XviD)
Why can this play back all these when the 10.1 can't?
This blows. Tegra2 is old news anyway.
Im gonna sell my 10.1 and get the quad core version anyway.

The "old" tab 8.9 also has a tegra2 processor.
The new one that should come out next year has an OMAP4 1.4 ghz procssor.
Interestingly, the list of formats of the 10.1 is also similarly long:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P7510UWYXAB-specs
When they write some format is supported, don't take it for granted.
And even if it is supported, one format often has multiple sub formats.
Please also differentiate video container format (a file with a certain suffix that usually wraps video and audio together, sometimes also adding subtitles or chapters) and video codec (the format of the video or audio stream itself that is embedded in the file).
For instance h264 avc video is generally supported, but when it is in high resolution (720p or larger) only a subset of encodings, generally wrapped up with the name "base profile" are supported.
This is a limitation of the tegra2 chipset.
Other chipset like that used with OMA4 supports a more wider range. Also, tegra3 should fix this limitation.
Its really a complex area.
Is there a certain format or video that does no play for you?
If so please report which (in as much detail as possible)....

All you need to know is that Tegra 2 has very poor video playback support.

I'll probably never buy a Tegra based stuff again, considering how poor tegra 2 is. Also ICS will be OMAP native so expect slow update on tegra devices.
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Oh my god! Can you believe that this new thing is better than the old thing? I mean, I'll never buy old things again! It's new all the way for me from here on!
Wait, are you saying that the new thing got old? Why did I buy this old thing? I need the new thing! They tricked me by saying it was new!
And over, and over, and over...

Evan2ac said:
All you need to know is that Tegra 2 has very poor video playback support.
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Really? I have 2TB of MKV files all remux'd with their original frame rates and resolution. Other than the occasional frame drop, all have played well. This includes 1080p Blu-Ray movies. I copy files off my TiVo's which end up as MP2's and they all play fine as well. I stream using PlayOn and Plex and haven't had any issues there either. I bought a ton of stuff on MediaHub during the $.01 sale and they played beautifully. YouTube works fine which many complain about which is surprising considering we're all using the same hardware and software. I just watched the Twilight Next Dawn trailer full-screen in HD and there wasn't even a frame drop.
There are two components to effective video playback - hardware and software. Samsung does an incredible job with the drivers for the latter which is why if you look at the Tab vs. any other Tegra device in a video comparison it kicks ass. Some of you having video playback issues may want to look at your content and wireless connections. I had a Qualcomm-based Jetstream and returned it after a week because it absolutely sucked at video playback and wasn’t usable at all with any of the streaming apps. I’m guessing its epic fail was based on the HTC software and drivers. OMAP is next up and Samsung may use Exynos in future tablets. Until then, this is about as good as it gets.
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Oh my god! Can you believe that this new thing is better than the old thing? I mean, I'll never buy old things again! It's new all the way for me from here on!
Wait, are you saying that the new thing got old? Why did I buy this old thing? I need the new thing! They tricked me by saying it was new!
And over, and over, and over...
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^^^^^
This.
Those of you looking for future-proof in any first generation device, good luck.

BarryH_GEG said:
Really? I have 2TB of MKV files all remux'd with their original frame rates and resolution. Other than the occasional frame drop, all have played well. This includes 1080p Blu-Ray movies. I copy files off my TiVo's which end up as MP2's and they all play fine as well. I stream using PlayOn and Plex and haven't had any issues there either. I bought a ton of stuff on MediaHub during the $.01 sale and they played beautifully. YouTube works fine which many complain about which is surprising considering we're all using the same hardware and software. I just watched the Twilight Next Dawn trailer full-screen in HD and there wasn't even a frame drop.
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So, a high-profile L4.1 1080p video (MKV or even MP4) file play perfectly on your Tegra 2 Galaxy Tab 10.1 via the stock video player or any other good 3rd party video player? That's the first time I've heard of the Tegra 2 being able to do so.

I read on samsung page Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 have Bluetooth 3.0.
But Tegra 2 chipset don´t have Bluetooth 3.0.
It is false of Samsung (itwas same with 10.1) and they dont know their own product or it have another processor?
LTE version Galaxy Tab 8.9 will have 1,5 Ghz Exynos processor (and micro sd slot).
If normal wersion will be have exynos(1,2 Ghz) too, I will be happy(for 1080p high profile playback)

cryingfreeman22 said:
I read on samsung page Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 have Bluetooth 3.0.
But Tegra 2 chipset don´t have Bluetooth 3.0.
It is false of Samsung (itwas same with 10.1) and they dont know their own product or it have another processor?
LTE version Galaxy Tab 8.9 will have 1,5 Ghz Exynos processor (and micro sd slot).
If normal wersion will be have exynos(1,2 Ghz) too, I will be happy(for 1080p high profile playback)
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WTF are you talking about? The bluetooth subsystem has nothing to do with the CPU.

t3ch7 said:
So, a high-profile L4.1 1080p video (MKV or even MP4) file play perfectly on your Tegra 2 Galaxy Tab 10.1 via the stock video player or any other good 3rd party video player? That's the first time I've heard of the Tegra 2 being able to do so.
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From what he wrote it sounds like the videos are converted on the fly when he copies them - and that will probably be in a format that tegra2 can handle.
If not then the original video is already in base profile because tegra2 defenitively can't handle 1080p high profile.
Baseline: some 1080p videos play, some don't - that guy probably just got lucky and did not run into formats it can't handle...

BarryH_GEG said:
Really? I have 2TB of MKV files all remux'd with their original frame rates and resolution. Other than the occasional frame drop, all have played well. This includes 1080p Blu-Ray movies. I copy files off my TiVo's which end up as MP2's and they all play fine as well. I stream using PlayOn and Plex and haven't had any issues there either. I bought a ton of stuff on MediaHub during the $.01 sale and they played beautifully. YouTube works fine which many complain about which is surprising considering we're all using the same hardware and software. I just watched the Twilight Next Dawn trailer full-screen in HD and there wasn't even a frame drop.
There are two components to effective video playback - hardware and software. Samsung does an incredible job with the drivers for the latter which is why if you look at the Tab vs. any other Tegra device in a video comparison it kicks ass. Some of you having video playback issues may want to look at your content and wireless connections. I had a Qualcomm-based Jetstream and returned it after a week because it absolutely sucked at video playback and wasn’t usable at all with any of the streaming apps. I’m guessing its epic fail was based on the HTC software and drivers. OMAP is next up and Samsung may use Exynos in future tablets. Until then, this is about as good as it gets.
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Can you post what apps/components you use for video playback? I am trying to compile a thread with information how to stream media wirelessly to TAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268725
What I need is
1) What DLNA app you use on TAB? AllShare? uPNp?
2) Do you do special encoding for mkv?
3) How do you stream?

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WTF are you talking about? The bluetooth subsystem has nothing to do with the CPU.
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I am not talking about cpu, but chipset. Or you know some tegra 2 devices on market, which have Bluetooth 3.0?

cryingfreeman22 said:
I am not talking about cpu, but chipset. Or you know some tegra 2 devices on market, which have Bluetooth 3.0?
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The international Tab's have 3.0.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tablets/GT-P7510FKDXEU-spec
It also comes with AllShare (DLNA). I'm getting a 3G from the UK and am using a U.S. Wi-Fi right now. I'll post what other differences I find when I get it in two weeks.
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Can you post what apps/components you use for video playback? I am trying to compile a thread with information how to stream media wirelessly to TAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268725
What I need is
1) What DLNA app you use on TAB? AllShare? uPNp?
2) Do you do special encoding for mkv?
3) How do you stream?
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1) - I don't stream "from" any of my mobile devices. I run a home server and it's easier to keep all my content there and then stream "to" the device(s) when I want to view or display content. The only content trapped on my phone are things downloaded through MediaHub. But anything in MediaHub is available elsewhere if I wanted to watch it on a big screen.
2) - I use DVDFab and have for years. It has its own codecs which work well but I use it with CoreAVC. I think the quality of encoded files makes a huge difference in playback and is probably the root issue for people having problems. They have a free trial if people want to compare it to what they're currently using.
3) - I have a Netgear N750 which is a fairly new high-end router. It reaches everywhere in my three story house without the need for a repeater. I have home theatre PC's attached to my main TVs via Wi-Fi and use them to display content off the server. Most of the time, I access my content while away from home. Plex is my main server/client and it does a fantastic job streaming to mobile devices - even over 3G. I also use PlayOn for accessing Hulu and network TV content. It too works really well over 3G. It has a new feature "PlayLater" that lets you store Hulu and network content (including Netflix movies) locally for playback any time. Both do a great job of transcoding on the fly which is why they work so well in a low-bandwidth and low-processing power environment.
Personally, any phone or tablet is under powered to be an effective media server. Maybe great for videos and pics recorded on the device, but anything else is a stretch until the hardware improves.

cryingfreeman22 said:
I am not talking about cpu, but chipset. Or you know some tegra 2 devices on market, which have Bluetooth 3.0?
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Tegra2 doesn't have a specified chipset, even for Bluetooth. It will work with any Bluetooth HCI device that talks UART, USB, or SDIO.
And why do you care about 3.0? There aren't really any practical advantages. I still have yet to see anything on the market that supports high speed mode.

I am now using my new galaxy s2 with the exenyos processor and it really makes the tegra 2 processor in my gtab.10.1 feel like it is a slug. From day one I never really thought the tegra 2 felt any faster than the single core hummingbird processor in my galaxy s original. I guess the magazine reviewers overhyped it, the graphics is pitiful compared to the original galaxy s and now the s2.
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BarryH_GEG said:
The international Tab's have 3.0.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tablets/GT-P7510FKDXEU-spec
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So then Samsung pages dont know their own product, because GT-P7510/M16 have in real only Bluetooth 2.1.
Ok this seems on same false, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 will be have Tegra 2 and Bluetooth 2.1.

BarryH_GEG said:
The international Tab's have 3.0.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tablets/GT-P7510FKDXEU-spec
It also comes with AllShare (DLNA). I'm getting a 3G from the UK and am using a U.S. Wi-Fi right now. I'll post what other differences I find when I get it in two weeks.
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1) - I don't stream "from" any of my mobile devices. I run a home server and it's easier to keep all my content there and then stream "to" the device(s) when I want to view or display content. The only content trapped on my phone are things downloaded through MediaHub. But anything in MediaHub is available elsewhere if I wanted to watch it on a big screen.
2) - I use DVDFab and have for years. It has its own codecs which work well but I use it with CoreAVC. I think the quality of encoded files makes a huge difference in playback and is probably the root issue for people having problems. They have a free trial if people want to compare it to what they're currently using.
3) - I have a Netgear N750 which is a fairly new high-end router. It reaches everywhere in my three story house without the need for a repeater. I have home theatre PC's attached to my main TVs via Wi-Fi and use them to display content off the server. Most of the time, I access my content while away from home. Plex is my main server/client and it does a fantastic job streaming to mobile devices - even over 3G. I also use PlayOn for accessing Hulu and network TV content. It too works really well over 3G. It has a new feature "PlayLater" that lets you store Hulu and network content (including Netflix movies) locally for playback any time. Both do a great job of transcoding on the fly which is why they work so well in a low-bandwidth and low-processing power environment.
Personally, any phone or tablet is under powered to be an effective media server. Maybe great for videos and pics recorded on the device, but anything else is a stretch until the hardware improves.
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Thanks I posted your comments in my thread. Appreciate your feedback.

cryingfreeman22 said:
So then Samsung pages dont know their own product, because GT-P7510/M16 have in real only Bluetooth 2.1.
Ok this seems on same false, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 will be have Tegra 2 and Bluetooth 2.1.
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Hrm, why does it have a Bluetooth 4.0 chip in it?
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...53&tag=thumbnail-view-selector;get-photo-roto

cbpagent72 said:
I am now using my new galaxy s2 with the exenyos processor and it really makes the tegra 2 processor in my gtab.10.1 feel like it is a slug. From day one I never really thought the tegra 2 felt any faster than the single core hummingbird processor in my galaxy s original. I guess the magazine reviewers overhyped it, the graphics is pitiful compared to the original galaxy s and now the s2.
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I have a SGS2 also and had a G2X which was Tegra. You can't compare a phone and a tablet. The SoC is pushing 800x480 to a 4.3" screen on a phone and 1024x768 on a 10" screen on a tablet. That's why phones with the new qHD displays benchmark below their predecessors. No doubt the Exynos would perform better than the Tegra but your not going to see the same performance you're getting on your SGS2.
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cryingfreeman22 said:
So then Samsung pages dont know their own product, because GT-P7510/M16 have in real only Bluetooth 2.1.
Ok this seems on same false, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 will be have Tegra 2 and Bluetooth 2.1.
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Where's your Tab from? The model numbering system is the same worldwide but there are regional differences. The U.S. versions have 2.1 and it says so on the Samsung U.S. website.

I am from Europe and there SGT 10.1 have also Bluetooth 2.1.
But before start sales SGT 10.1 in USA(June) us samsung mobile says it have BT 3.0. After one week they correct this. Now it seems same with SGT 8.9.

[Q] HD Video Playback on Nexus 7

Hi Everyone,
I want to know how is the video playback on Nexus 7 (720p and 1080p) and if possible can any one test out the result if i want to stream (720p or 1080p) video via wifi using any app.

as far as playback goes. 720p is good to go. Galaxy Nexus can handle it and i know the Tegra 3 can (at least on the other asus tablets)
Can't say anything about 1080 or streaming though.

I am only asking because I amusing Atrix (tegra 2) and it sucks at playing even 720p videos (only videos made from camera are rock solid) and i dont want to convert a video before watching it on tablet i guess quad core cpu with 12 core GPU is just a fancy bull ****

Tegra dual core vs Tegra quad core

So I was just wondering if anyone was an expert on the difference between older tegra dualcore devices vs the newer tegra 3 chips.
I just recently grabbed a Xoom and love it. Really excited about the stock Google experience and googles continued commitment to releasing jellybean to the device.
Am I missing out an any real life performance boosts by sticking with the older dual core chip? To be honest the improvements look to be minor from what I can see.
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dannykavs said:
So I was just wondering if anyone was an expert on the difference between older tegra dualcore devices vs the newer tegra 3 chips.
I just recently grabbed a Xoom and love it. Really excited about the stock Google experience and googles continued commitment to releasing jellybean to the device.
Am I missing out an any real life performance boosts by sticking with the older dual core chip? To be honest the improvements look to be minor from what I can see.
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The differences are minor.
Slightly better performance, supports more video codecs natively, better battery life. I would return the xoom if you paid $250+ for it though if you plan on rooting/roming it. Its a good but old device. I would return it just because you need software decoding for 720p video files because its Q2 2012. You are missing out on some stuff but not much depending on your uses.

Kippui said:
The differences are minor.
Slightly better performance, supports more video codecs natively, better battery life. I would return the xoom if you paid $250+ for it though if you plan on rooting/roming it. Its a good but old device. I would return it just because you need software decoding for 720p video files because its Q2 2012. You are missing out on some stuff but not much depending on your uses.
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My xoom runs 720p (mkv) with h/w. I'm using latest Team EOS nightly and i use MX Player for videos. 720p works perfectly, but 1080p can only be played with full hd monitor or tv (with hdmi).

parkentosh said:
My xoom runs 720p (mkv) with h/w. I'm using latest Team EOS nightly and i use MX Player for videos. 720p works perfectly, but 1080p can only be played with full hd monitor or tv (with hdmi).
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it depends on how the video is encoded, if you read the the older threads the xoom stuggles with certain video profiles @ 720p
Still, I want native codec support from the processor instead of having to rely on players like diceplayer to play video files.

Ya I just threw on a 720p video and it wasn't playing that smoothly. I had to install BSplayer to get it to work flawlessly. I'm okay with using a player to get videos running like they should. So far its the only weakness I see with this tablet. Can't complain.
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