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usb drive support and rooting

I read that USB support for jumps drives is not supported out of the box, but if you root the nexus 7 tablet and download a file manager it is.
2 questions,
1- is this accurate info and 2
2- if i root the tablet, does that mean that any updates google pushes in the next weeks or months wont alow me to update?
sorry if i dont actually know the terms and associations with rooting... i never did it for my phones as all how too's and info are not really put together well

Rooting won't stop updates.

loueber said:
if i root the tablet, does that mean that any updates google pushes in the next weeks or months wont alow me to update?
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You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.

Nexcellent said:
You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.
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Wait, what? Are you serious? This is the first I heard of this. How difficult would it be to re-lock the boot loader? I definitely want USB OTG support (curse you Google for not making this work out of the box!), that means I'm easily going to opt in favor of rooting to get that functionality... after I use it for a while of course to make sure everything works fine :laugh:. I would LIKE to have Google OTA updates, though, so re-locking the boot loader interests me somewhat, but certainly not the wiping if I unlock it again... *facepalm*
That said, with the last line you said, are you saying that a rooted/custom flashed N7... on say... CM9... would simply get their updates from CM9 devs instead?
And with that, if I root my Nexus 7, but don't ever lock the boot loader to receive OTA like you mention, then I'll.... never be updated. Right?

JaSauders said:
Wait, what? Are you serious? This is the first I heard of this. How difficult would it be to re-lock the boot loader? I definitely want USB OTG support (curse you Google for not making this work out of the box!), that means I'm easily going to opt in favor of rooting to get that functionality... after I use it for a while of course to make sure everything works fine :laugh:. I would LIKE to have Google OTA updates, though, so re-locking the boot loader interests me somewhat, but certainly not the wiping if I unlock it again... *facepalm*
That said, with the last line you said, are you saying that a rooted/custom flashed N7... on say... CM9... would simply get their updates from CM9 devs instead?
And with that, if I root my Nexus 7, but don't ever lock the boot loader to receive OTA like you mention, then I'll.... never be updated. Right?
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It is not difficult to relock to the bootloader, just a simple fastboot command via ADB. I see no benefit however in relocking the bootloader once you've rooted.
Forget about OTA's. The beauty of rooting and flashing custom roms is that you don't have to wait for an OTA's. CM team is going be producing nightlies for CM10 soon, hopefully the guys at AOKP will add the Nexus 7 to their new JB builds. I'm currently running MoDaCo 4.1.1, Paul did a great job with this rom. You won't get OTA's on custom roms, you have to update them manually, which is not a pain at all.

Nexcellent said:
You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.
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OH BOY...see the main reason im getting the device is to send it to mother in law in MX. and it would be nice to send a USB chip with videos, or photos or other things if need be,
Since i wont have the device, installing custom roms is not really an option.
the whole point of the nexus device for me was the support and timely updates from google VS manufacturer branded versions that take forever to fix any issues.

Disappointed

Got my new Note 4 on my doorstep. From a technical standpoint, the phone is nice. Pretty fast, nice screen. But I feel let down. I really hate the stock ROM. Running Nova helps. It makes it bearable. I really thought I would like the bigger screen. But the problem is everything is just enlarged. You don't actually have more screen real estate. I have had my GS4 running Cyanogen for quite a while now and I like it. On my new Note 4 I feel very disappointed. If there isn't a root in the next few days I may return it to the store and stick with my GS4.

There won't be a way to root for a long time or ever for that matter....sorry to burst your bubble. I would suggest doing your homework before buying a device for modding. The latest is no longer the greatest from that standpoint. That being said if you want root and do not care about future updates or warranty, the Developer Edition N4 will be out soon . the downfall is you must purchase it outright and there will not be much support for it. However it is unlocked and rootable.

I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.

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I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.
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That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.

shabbypenguin said:
That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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Damn...guess I have no choice but to sell my note 4 and get the DevEd.

Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5

shabbypenguin said:
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4

fletch33 said:
whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I'm really hoping you're right...

fletch33 said:
whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I didnt say you wouldnt ever get root, just that when it finally gets updated to L you can kiss all chances of getting root then goodbye. i imagine someone has an exploit they are waiting to drop and see if its patched in 5.0 whether or not it becomes public is entirely up to them at that point. as it stands that is your best shot at a 4.4 root.

i dont know what OP is talking about i have 100s of apps on this thing and still flying like butta!!!

pmterp said:
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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Tell me how that goes!

Towel root will not work. The app itself says the note 4 isnt a capable device. Maybe geohot just has to include it, but i wouldnt get your hopes up

There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.

pmterp said:
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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I tried it, no go. Luckily it tells you that the phone isn't supported instead of just screwing it up.

I'm going to take the 12 days I have left to pray for root if not I'm going to see what I can do with a Bluetooth stylus and a nexus 6. I'm upgrading from a note 2 running Aosp Roms. I had the phone for less then an hour before it was rooted and unlocked I ran beans Roms at first but my need to be on the newest version of Android and dislike of touchwiz I found aosp Roms with apps like GMD spen control great. Currently with the N4 I miss the custom gestures to open evernote and ime switch
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alprazolam said:
There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.
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I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.

tsachi said:
I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.
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Although the S5 root method doesn't work for the N4, it gives devs a head start.

Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.
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I agree, it's not terrible and not nearly as laggy as early phones were. I still use Apex so I can use icon and theme packs and make better use of screen size. All in all, if root never came, I'd be content enough to deal... it would be nice for Adaway, Titanium and Xposed though. I'll put my money down soon and see. I'm betting we get root sooner than later.

If root, or more importantly, flashing roms is that important to the OP, then why don't you go with t-mobile? Their Note 4 has an unlocked bootloader. Like another said, do your homework beforehand.

To root or not to root

My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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Danzano said:
My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.

Heisenberg said:
CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.
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I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.

Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No flash counters or anything like that on the Nexus, never has been and probably never will be. It is first and foremost a development device, it just happened to catch on in the mainstream too. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask, we have a great community of people helping out in the guide thread.

DJBhardwaj said:
No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.
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Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583

Heisenberg said:
My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583
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Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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Depends entirely on your choice. If you want to learn more about your device and how things work on it, you can perform things by yourself. Doing it manually also helps you keep a track of things that are going on, so if somehow your device is stuck, or not functioning as it should, you can always track back the source of the issue. And since you performed it yourself, you will know it better.
On the other side, toolkits have their own benefits. If you just want to perform procedures without much hassle and automate everything, you can go for them. All the toolkits here is the 6P section have proved useful to many users. You can try all of them, and see which one works better for you and your phone.
I for once have tried SKIPSOFT Android toolkit, offers a lot of functions. At the same time, there is Squabbi's Nexus 6P Toolkit, which has a more user-friendly interface, and much simpler to use.
Personally, I don't prefer toolkits, they could be buggy, at times. And have never suited my purpose.

Danzano said:
Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.
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That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?

Heisenberg said:
That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?
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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop

Danzano said:
I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop
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Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.

Heisenberg said:
Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.
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If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?

Danzano said:
If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?
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Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.

Heisenberg said:
Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.
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That makes sense almost got all the updated sdk tools now so will get to backing up then rooting just wanted to double check on the backing up because i have to nuke the internal storage when i unlock the bootloader

On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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Nice

Unlocking bootloader.
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.

Chipbutty.80 said:
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.
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Yes, the message will disappear if the bootloader is relocked. That's the only way to remove it. Not sure if you need it but I have a detailed unlock/root/flash guide for our device here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

"New" comer here, I need some help please

Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks

Arturofm2 said:
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms

Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.

Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more

Arturofm2 said:
Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.

Binary100100 said:
What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??

Binary100100 said:
Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?

Arturofm2 said:
How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.

Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T

Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?

Binary100100 said:
I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?

Arturofm2 said:
bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.

forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.

Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?

tduquefjc said:
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?

Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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Arturofm2 said:
If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.

Binary100100 said:
You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!

Any stable ROM's comparable to stock?

Guys, to be honest, I'm growing sick of hoping and waiting for nougat and I'm losing hope in motorola. And I'm starting to get flooded with stock rom issues and I just hit a year with this phone, wifi not working unless reboot, BT connection not connecting/disconnecting, sometimes my screen won't turn on but makes unlock sounds and I have to force shut down... .
Is there another ROM that's stable enough to use daily, or should I just root and clean this up best I can?
I haven't rooted incase I needed warranty, and up to this point I've been in love with this phone and it's buttery performance. Which is quickly slipping away.
Thanks in advance.

tbkrazeey said:
Guys, to be honest, I'm growing sick of hoping and waiting for nougat and I'm losing hope in motorola. And I'm starting to get flooded with stock rom issues and I just hit a year with this phone, wifi not working unless reboot, BT connection not connecting/disconnecting, sometimes my screen won't turn on but makes unlock sounds and I have to force shut down... .
Is there another ROM that's stable enough to use daily, or should I just root and clean this up best I can?
I haven't rooted incase I needed warranty, and up to this point I've been in love with this phone and it's buttery performance. Which is quickly slipping away.
Thanks in advance.
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Have you factory reset to see if that resolved your issues?

aybarrap1 said:
Have you factory reset to see if that resolved your issues?
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No, that's my first step but I haven't had the time yet. I plan to in the next couple of days, I just wanted opinions on ROM's to see if it's worth staying with stock or giving something else a shot. That wayI know if I should go straight to getting ready to root.

tbkrazeey said:
No, that's my first step but I haven't had the time yet. I plan to in the next couple of days, I just wanted opinions on ROM's to see if it's worth staying with stock or giving something else a shot. That wayI know if I should go straight to getting ready to root.
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Another rom will not help you.
Do a factory reset(1st - delete google account - frp protection). Don't restore your data from g.account(log in with new one).
If problems will be again you sould ask for warranty repair.

dzidexx said:
Another rom will not help you.
Do a factory reset(1st - delete google account - frp protection). Don't restore your data from g.account(log in with new one).
If problems will be again you sould ask for warranty repair.
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Are the ROM's for this that bad? I've always had good luck switching on previous phones to avoid stock issues. If I thought otherwise I wouldn't have wasted anyone's time with this thread. I'll get it reset today.

Yours problems can be in software or hardware. If you flash custom rom you will loose warranty.
To flash custom you have to unlock bootloader - all data will be deleted.
Better idea is factory reset to check where problems are. @tbkrazeey

dzidexx said:
Yours problems can be in software or hardware. If you flash custom rom you will loose warranty.
To flash custom you have to unlock bootloader - all data will be deleted.
Better idea is factory reset to check where problems are. @tbkrazeey
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OK, yea your right I didn't really consider it being hardware, usually it's not so I just change ROM's.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-trupurex-fast-smooth-t3237155 < the only ROM which is similar to the stock ROM. I used it for almost about 1 year. But the developer doesn't do updates any more. So now i'm back on stock and i'm waiting for the official Nougat Update.

lineageos 14.1 is great from my point of view. No issues at all except when I tinker with the kernel settings myself
Give it a try.

Karlos1978 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-trupurex-fast-smooth-t3237155 < the only ROM which is similar to the stock ROM. I used it for almost about 1 year. But the developer doesn't do updates any more. So now i'm back on stock and i'm waiting for the official Nougat Update.
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I might try it anyway, but running a rom without future updates sucks sometimes, thanks for the link.
kongha said:
lineageos 14.1 is great from my point of view. No issues at all except when I tinker with the kernel settings myself
Give it a try.
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Well, that's a giving with kernel settings sometimes. Lol. I'm gonna check it out.
As a side note, I turned off the moto display and my wifi issues have stopped, I'm not sure how that can be linked, but it is.