I have been looking for some answers about OTA update that pushed thru Google. I have checked almost all the threads here, but could not able to find to my answer.
My question is I am on Stock 4.1.2, Build number JZO54K, rooted, unlocked, super SU, and using franco's kernel boot img (After I checked Franco's thread, and said it is not compitble with new 4.2, I reverted back to stock boot.img.)
considering above; can I get 4.2 OTA pushed to my Nexus 7 thru system update? or do I need to manually apply to my nexus 7? I know many people in the forum says if you are on custom ROM, or modified system apks, build.prob, etc, you won't get OTA update..etc., but I am not quite sure about my situation, so I am asking here, and hoping someone can tell me. I am also worry about loosing my root access too.
thanks in advance!
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Hi,
I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
milos797 said:
Hi,
I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
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I believe that OTA updates just flash the stock kernel again, so you could unlock, root and flash a different kernel without fear of losing OTA updates. However, OTA updates will force you to lose root and you will have to flash the custom kernel again. You will continue to get notifications that say that there is a new update as long as you aren't also on a custom ROM
If you are running the stock ROM you will still get and ota notification. However if you've made any modifications such as a custom kernel, build.prop edit, system.ui edit, etc. The ota will fail upon installation.
If all you do is get root access it will install fine. You'll just have to flash the su binaries again.
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Actually, SU has a survival mode that will preserve root even after OTA. CWM will also protect ropt so you don't have to reroot it. My Nexus 7 has been stock rooted and went thru 2 OTAs without losing root.
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Sorry to hijack,
My question is, I am rooted with stock rom but have CWR and a different kernel.
When the next OTA comes, I would need to download the whole rom because of CWR and kernel.
Question I have is that if I want to flash the OTA, would I need to wipe my device or can I just flash the ROM ontop. I know my old device (DHD) I had to wipe everything before I install the ROM. The reason why I am asking is because can I get away with just flashing on top therefore keeping all my data on my device so I no need to restore it via titanium backup (I am lazy)
Hi all - I just received a notice on my Nexus 7 that there is a system update to install. I already installed 4.3 build JWR66V a couple weeks ago. Anyone know what this update is? I can't seem to find any information anywhere. My device is unlocked and rooted, running stock.
Yeah, google has released a newer version, so if you're on stock, why not update?
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It's an update from build JWR66V to JWR66Y, still Android 4.3.
If it's an OTA update, always install it.
It fixes a couple of issues after the 4.3 update
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.
Is it possible to update via ota when the device is unlocked and rooted? I updated it but it still says JWR66V, not Y. But when I look for an update it says up to date.
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Got the same issue as dakoookie
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Will this update unroot it?
Yes you'll still recieve the update it just hasnt been pushed to you yet if it says up to date. Factory images for it are already up waiting on someone to make a zip for CWM
nikola1970 said:
Will this update unroot it?
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OTA's always remove root
Apparently not. I updated but I still have root
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Me too, but gives error when installing =(
Rooter and bootloader unlock
Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Then the update failed the new OTA is JWR66Y
Lol the same questions.
Every.
Single.
Time.
FYI, I lost root.
Lost root also
NeoMagus said:
OTA's always remove root
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Guess nobody believed me :silly:
Anybody working on a zip yet for the update??
If you lost root and it put you back on stock recovery just reflash your recovery then supersu
For the folks that are having "error" during the update, restart your n7 then clear cache and data from framework services and check for updates again and it should come up. Also make sure you at least have 80% battery level:good:
It's supposed to fix the phantom screen touch problem and a few other things I'm sure someone will come up with root G.B.Y.
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There's an OTA .zip for build JWR66Y here... but there appears to be a problem with symlink permisssions.
But there is also a solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745781&page=53 and a modified version of the OTA that fixes the permissions. Worked for me flashing via TRWP.
Incidentally, I also lost root after upgrading... not sure why... but not a big problem, as I reflashed SuperSU v1.51 in TWRP.
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Not quite sure what this very minor upgrade is supposed to accomplish, given 4.3 was only rolled out 4 weeks or so, ago.... but I suspect it has a lot to do with a minor screwup on Googles part, the details of which can be found here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382880.
I think (and I could be wrong), build JWR66Y is {AOSP JSS15J + Gapps}... in other words, JSS15J, released as Factory Stock instead of AOSP.
And the full factory image of JWR66Y is already available on the Google Developer website here and it's immediate predecessor, JWR66V has been 'pulled' and is no longer available for download.
Anyway, take a look at the above link, and you should see what I'm getting at.
Rgrds,
Ged.
grouper zip that was linked worked great here. No issues here now
I ran a few searched but none provided me with the answer - sorry if it's been covered.
I am on pure stock right now (JDQ39 - 4.2.2) and getting the constant prompt to update to 4.3
For reasons too long to get into here I absolutely do not want to install 4.3
I do however want to turn off the OTA update prompt and have found several ways of doing that - the simplest and easiest way is using Autorun manager to disable the updater in part of the Google Services Framework apk, however I need to have root to do that.
I can root the phone, and keep everything else stock including the recovery, and then disable OTA updates for 4.3
My question is this:
If I do this, but am interested in installing Kit Kat OTA if it's released next week, is it as simple as re-enabling the updater using the reverse procedure in Autorun manager and then I should see the update for 4.4 Kit Kat?
Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?
Appreciate any replies.
Thanks.
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Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?.
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It would appear from other threads on this subject and various other sites, that you'll have to wait for the 4.4 images from Google if you don't want to first upgrade to 4.3. From what I gather researching the same question, to do the OTA to 4.4, you'd first have to accept the 4.3 upgrade, then the 4.3.1 upgrade and finally the 4.4.
That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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korockinout13 said:
That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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4.3 was a horrible alpha release IMO, creating many issues.
I'm rocking slim 4.2.2 build 8 until kit Kat hits.
Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4
Mr. Tijntje said:
Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4
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edit: I am checking on something for you... you will receive OTA updates but checking to see if host file is one of the files it checks before it upgrades.
More than likely any changes to your system folder will cause it too fail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417810
In my experience you still receive OTA updates, but you lose root while updating. I'm not sure if the hosts file is changed though.
If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.
meZQureshi said:
If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.
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Are you sure about that? I've been running cwm recovery ever since 4.2.0. Every ota update was received and installed without issues, but I always simply lost root until a new method for the new android release appeared.
You can still receive OTA but I would suggest not accepting it and flash it manually using a "safe" method. The OTA update from 4.2 to 4.3 caused problems on rooted phones. Usually it is fine but 4.3 changed the file system which caused the problem, so better be safe than sorry.
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Thank you all for your replies, this tells me again that it is quite difficult to say what happens. Since KitKat is probably coming to the Nexus 4 one of these days I will stay stock for now and decide later if I want to root my phone.
I used superSU Pro, and turned on "survival mode" when I did the OTA update to 4.3, and didn't have any problems losing root. Sometimes I'll get a message say I may have lost root access, but I've never had any problems with apps that require root.
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on the last update.. I wasn't getting the OTA until I unrooted. I think you have to unlock the bootloader too.. then I immediately received the OTA. I didn't have stock recovery. I was glad that I didn't have to wipe everything.. I then re-rooted.. was good to go.
Hello,
The last time I rooted my nexus was about 6 months ago to android 4.2.1. To tell the truth I just followed some tutorials and 6 months later I can't remember much of the process at all.
So there has been android 4.3 and now 4.4. Not that I'm dissatisfied with my device as it is, I just want to experience the new versions. So to restate the question, how can I upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 while keeping the device rooted ?
Thank You
medwatt said:
Hello,
The last time I rooted my nexus was about 6 months ago to android 4.2.1. To tell the truth I just followed some tutorials and 6 months later I can't remember much of the process at all.
So there has been android 4.3 and now 4.4. Not that I'm dissatisfied with my device as it is, I just want to experience the new versions. So to restate the question, how can I upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 while keeping the device rooted ?
Thank You
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Well, you could just install the 4.3 OTA then the 4.4 OTA and simply re-root. Using Chainfire's cf-auto-root that process only takes 2 minutes. Doing the OTAs will keep you from losing data. There are links to the OTA files in the "OTA links sticky here in the "N7 General" forum that you posted this question in. Be sure to do each of the OTAs in turn - don't skip any of them. Start with the build you have & jumpa as far forward as you can (choose your zips wisely so you don't have to do a bunch of them. (for example, do the OTA from your build up to JDQ39, then do the JDQ39 to JWR66Y OTA, then the JWR66y to KRT16O OTA).
You might want to pause for a few minutes in 4.3 world before you jump to 4.4. Let things settle down & see if any 4.3-specific updates come down from the Play Store. It shouldn't, but where's the harm in waiting?!?
Why can't I just directly update from 4.2.1 to 4.3 without having to go through 4.2.2 ? I thought each update was self contained !
I downloaded the android 4.4 factory image and want to completely put it over the 4.2.1. How to do that ?
medwatt said:
I downloaded the android 4.4 factory image and want to completely put it over the 4.2.1. How to do that ?
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More complicated than flashing 2 or 3 OTAs, but here is a tutorial to flash factory IMGs keeping data and root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho... 4.2.2 (root + unlocked bootloader) KEEP DATA
Best of luck.
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