I ran a few searched but none provided me with the answer - sorry if it's been covered.
I am on pure stock right now (JDQ39 - 4.2.2) and getting the constant prompt to update to 4.3
For reasons too long to get into here I absolutely do not want to install 4.3
I do however want to turn off the OTA update prompt and have found several ways of doing that - the simplest and easiest way is using Autorun manager to disable the updater in part of the Google Services Framework apk, however I need to have root to do that.
I can root the phone, and keep everything else stock including the recovery, and then disable OTA updates for 4.3
My question is this:
If I do this, but am interested in installing Kit Kat OTA if it's released next week, is it as simple as re-enabling the updater using the reverse procedure in Autorun manager and then I should see the update for 4.4 Kit Kat?
Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?
Appreciate any replies.
Thanks.
Globespy said:
Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?.
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It would appear from other threads on this subject and various other sites, that you'll have to wait for the 4.4 images from Google if you don't want to first upgrade to 4.3. From what I gather researching the same question, to do the OTA to 4.4, you'd first have to accept the 4.3 upgrade, then the 4.3.1 upgrade and finally the 4.4.
That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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korockinout13 said:
That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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4.3 was a horrible alpha release IMO, creating many issues.
I'm rocking slim 4.2.2 build 8 until kit Kat hits.
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Hi all - I just received a notice on my Nexus 7 that there is a system update to install. I already installed 4.3 build JWR66V a couple weeks ago. Anyone know what this update is? I can't seem to find any information anywhere. My device is unlocked and rooted, running stock.
Yeah, google has released a newer version, so if you're on stock, why not update?
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It's an update from build JWR66V to JWR66Y, still Android 4.3.
If it's an OTA update, always install it.
It fixes a couple of issues after the 4.3 update
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.
Is it possible to update via ota when the device is unlocked and rooted? I updated it but it still says JWR66V, not Y. But when I look for an update it says up to date.
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Got the same issue as dakoookie
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Will this update unroot it?
Yes you'll still recieve the update it just hasnt been pushed to you yet if it says up to date. Factory images for it are already up waiting on someone to make a zip for CWM
nikola1970 said:
Will this update unroot it?
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OTA's always remove root
Apparently not. I updated but I still have root
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Me too, but gives error when installing =(
Rooter and bootloader unlock
Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Then the update failed the new OTA is JWR66Y
Lol the same questions.
Every.
Single.
Time.
FYI, I lost root.
Lost root also
NeoMagus said:
OTA's always remove root
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Guess nobody believed me :silly:
Anybody working on a zip yet for the update??
If you lost root and it put you back on stock recovery just reflash your recovery then supersu
For the folks that are having "error" during the update, restart your n7 then clear cache and data from framework services and check for updates again and it should come up. Also make sure you at least have 80% battery level:good:
It's supposed to fix the phantom screen touch problem and a few other things I'm sure someone will come up with root G.B.Y.
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There's an OTA .zip for build JWR66Y here... but there appears to be a problem with symlink permisssions.
But there is also a solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745781&page=53 and a modified version of the OTA that fixes the permissions. Worked for me flashing via TRWP.
Incidentally, I also lost root after upgrading... not sure why... but not a big problem, as I reflashed SuperSU v1.51 in TWRP.
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Not quite sure what this very minor upgrade is supposed to accomplish, given 4.3 was only rolled out 4 weeks or so, ago.... but I suspect it has a lot to do with a minor screwup on Googles part, the details of which can be found here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382880.
I think (and I could be wrong), build JWR66Y is {AOSP JSS15J + Gapps}... in other words, JSS15J, released as Factory Stock instead of AOSP.
And the full factory image of JWR66Y is already available on the Google Developer website here and it's immediate predecessor, JWR66V has been 'pulled' and is no longer available for download.
Anyway, take a look at the above link, and you should see what I'm getting at.
Rgrds,
Ged.
grouper zip that was linked worked great here. No issues here now
I've been ignoring the 4.3 update prompt, it will never see my phone.
With 4.4 rumored to release tomorrow, if I reboot my phone, will I instead see the 4.4 update prompt? Will I be able to tell if it's 4.3 or 4.4?
I hope I don't have to have a 4.3 phone to get the 4.4 update?
If so, I hope a factory link will pop up soon to flash through stock recovery using fastboot in nexus 4 toolkit.
Thanks.
I don't think it will release tommorow or this week anyway..
But as I know from Galaxy's devices you should update to the version before the new one...then you'll get the new version update.
I guess someone will export it as soon as it goes out and you could flash it stright..
many of the ota updates arent full rom updates, but partial roms. because of this, you would need 4.3. even if someone posts a link to the ota file, if its not a full rom, you would hve to update it over 4.3.
Its not going to come tomorrow it's probably just being announced
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I HAVE THE EXACT SAME QUESTION AND GOOGLE IS NOT ANSWERING ME YET.
Please if anybody knows answer!
Will we receive the 4.4 OTA on a 4.2.2 running Nexus 4?
Updates are incremental, there's a reason to keep our phones up to date in order to receive OTA's
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magued2001 said:
I HAVE THE EXACT SAME QUESTION AND GOOGLE IS NOT ANSWERING ME YET.
Please if anybody knows answer!
Will we receive the 4.4 OTA on a 4.2.2 running Nexus 4?
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If you go to general forum there's a thread with the factory firmware image.
You can use adb fastboot to install it from your stock factory recovery (I'm assuming your phone is unrooted etc).
This will give you a completely new phone with official kit Kat. I just did it with mine.
Then install the new Google Now and GEL launcher apks and your phone will look exactly like the N5.
Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
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Mr. Tijntje said:
Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
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edit: I am checking on something for you... you will receive OTA updates but checking to see if host file is one of the files it checks before it upgrades.
More than likely any changes to your system folder will cause it too fail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417810
In my experience you still receive OTA updates, but you lose root while updating. I'm not sure if the hosts file is changed though.
If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.
meZQureshi said:
If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.
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Are you sure about that? I've been running cwm recovery ever since 4.2.0. Every ota update was received and installed without issues, but I always simply lost root until a new method for the new android release appeared.
You can still receive OTA but I would suggest not accepting it and flash it manually using a "safe" method. The OTA update from 4.2 to 4.3 caused problems on rooted phones. Usually it is fine but 4.3 changed the file system which caused the problem, so better be safe than sorry.
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Thank you all for your replies, this tells me again that it is quite difficult to say what happens. Since KitKat is probably coming to the Nexus 4 one of these days I will stay stock for now and decide later if I want to root my phone.
I used superSU Pro, and turned on "survival mode" when I did the OTA update to 4.3, and didn't have any problems losing root. Sometimes I'll get a message say I may have lost root access, but I've never had any problems with apps that require root.
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on the last update.. I wasn't getting the OTA until I unrooted. I think you have to unlock the bootloader too.. then I immediately received the OTA. I didn't have stock recovery. I was glad that I didn't have to wipe everything.. I then re-rooted.. was good to go.
Hello,
The last time I rooted my nexus was about 6 months ago to android 4.2.1. To tell the truth I just followed some tutorials and 6 months later I can't remember much of the process at all.
So there has been android 4.3 and now 4.4. Not that I'm dissatisfied with my device as it is, I just want to experience the new versions. So to restate the question, how can I upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 while keeping the device rooted ?
Thank You
medwatt said:
Hello,
The last time I rooted my nexus was about 6 months ago to android 4.2.1. To tell the truth I just followed some tutorials and 6 months later I can't remember much of the process at all.
So there has been android 4.3 and now 4.4. Not that I'm dissatisfied with my device as it is, I just want to experience the new versions. So to restate the question, how can I upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 while keeping the device rooted ?
Thank You
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Well, you could just install the 4.3 OTA then the 4.4 OTA and simply re-root. Using Chainfire's cf-auto-root that process only takes 2 minutes. Doing the OTAs will keep you from losing data. There are links to the OTA files in the "OTA links sticky here in the "N7 General" forum that you posted this question in. Be sure to do each of the OTAs in turn - don't skip any of them. Start with the build you have & jumpa as far forward as you can (choose your zips wisely so you don't have to do a bunch of them. (for example, do the OTA from your build up to JDQ39, then do the JDQ39 to JWR66Y OTA, then the JWR66y to KRT16O OTA).
You might want to pause for a few minutes in 4.3 world before you jump to 4.4. Let things settle down & see if any 4.3-specific updates come down from the Play Store. It shouldn't, but where's the harm in waiting?!?
Why can't I just directly update from 4.2.1 to 4.3 without having to go through 4.2.2 ? I thought each update was self contained !
I downloaded the android 4.4 factory image and want to completely put it over the 4.2.1. How to do that ?
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I downloaded the android 4.4 factory image and want to completely put it over the 4.2.1. How to do that ?
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More complicated than flashing 2 or 3 OTAs, but here is a tutorial to flash factory IMGs keeping data and root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho... 4.2.2 (root + unlocked bootloader) KEEP DATA
Best of luck.
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Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
I accidently ota to mk2 from mf3 and re rooted with the mj6 method on att s4
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I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
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Take a chill pill bro. This phone is still better than an iPhone. There is a safe root method now so no need to use survival mode just have to find a way to get to 4.3 which is all over the discussion boards.
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