My Magic looks like this:
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
I've been reading this and other forums for awhile now trying to find a "simple" way to get froyo on it but cant seem to find one, there's just too many options and possibilities for my little head to handle.
So now a few questions:
I heard you could overclock it, is it worth it and will it be stable?
Is it even possible to get froyo on it without following a 1mil step guide?
And considering the above to be "yes" the magic question all noobs ask... How?
All the radio and root stuff confuses me, if only it could be done with just a random rom and not having to do anything else
PS. Yes i know others ask about roms often but i have been reading about it for so long now without getting anywhere, i have to get some clear answers to get anywhere...
-The OC dosent give you any mind blowing performance increase (better performance is only noticable with certain games), 576 mhz is stable, other I don't know, your phone will not melt or anything (on 576).
- for any new magic (android) phone you must do a rather "long" procedure before you can start flashing stuff.
- read the whole 32A wiki, also read part 2
- read how to flash radio and spl
- Look into rom bible for roms you might like
- I would recommend cyanogen mod 5.0.8 (2.1) to use as a daily rom, froyo has many bugs
- and don't be hasty, read the wiki again if yu have to, almost every thing is explained there
- don't brick your phone!
happy flashing
"Perfect" SPL Revisions (which prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.0006, HBOOT-1.33.0010 and HBOOT-1.33.0014 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
It is not possible to fastboot a ROM if you have one of these SPLs; you need to wait until someone has hacked it.
Edit (12 Aug 2009) : Now you can! Refer to "blabla cant post link i'm new user"
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Seems i have a perfect SPL, have somebody developed an easy fix for that?
Quoting the link:
Proceed on your own risk, you might brick your phone!!!
This method is written for the original MT3G back in 2009, DONT USE IT on the Fender/MT3G 1.2!!!
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Got no clue what Fender/MT3G 1.2 is...
Fender is the limited edition myTouch that T-Mobile marketed and he 1.2 is the mytouch's with the 3.5mm jack on top. Since you've got a perfected SPL, the goldcard method is about the only way to root it, AFAIK.
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I've already rooted the phone using Cyanogen's wiki. Here's my phone info from fastboot:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPH31000)
CLPD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
Couple things I'm not clear on:
1. The whole 32A/32B thing. For example, I have a 32A, but I can only flash 32B roms. Flashing a 32A rom makes it hang on black screen after the HTC Magic logo.
2. I've read that the MyTouch 1.2 and Fenders are all 32A. I've also read that for the phone to work properly, the stock SPL and radio have to be used. If that's the case, how are people running the 32A ROMs in the development section that require different SPLs and radios?
I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how to flash a 32A ROM on my MT3G 1.2 phone if they require non-stock SPL/radio and when I'm reading that I can't use anything but stock versions.
I'm probably mixing up old and new info, but I'm really confused. Flashing my Nexus One is so much easier
you got it mostly right.
The mytouch 1.2/Fender is a hybrid magic. It has the mainboard of the 32a (with 288mb RAM), but the radio of the MT3G 32b/G1, a new touch screen driver, and the 3.5mm audio jack.
So, really, someone named Zinx was able to make kernel patches to make it work. These patches were applied the CM 32b kernel. So any rom based on CM5.0.7test 2 kernel or higher has the needed drivers to work with the 1.2/fender le.
the true HTC magic 32a has a different radio. This is why the dev section is mostly of 32a with old radio/new radio ROMs. the 32b phones are just G1 with out the keyboards...
Basically you need to find ROMs that have been "ported" to run on the 1.2. I can recommend Cyanogenmod 5.0.8-DS. As it works really well. Make sure you look for the DS (dream/sapphire) one.
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So that means I'll never be able to run a 32A ROM on this phone, which means I'll never have my full 288MB RAM available?
Thanks for the replies! It's starting to make more sense to me. And here I thought I was going crazy
Currently I'm running jojotm's Minimou with pershoot's updated kernel and it works very well. It's faster than I expected it to be which is just fine for my wife. I have a Nexus One for my needs
No, the kernal or a ported ROM will let you use the full RAM.
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I posted this in Development by way of ignorance. so I am posting in the correct section this time. hopefully someone will take pity on me.
Hey guys. sorry if this has been asked before, but im just needing a little clarification. i just rooted my MT3G 1.2 and loaded CM6 stable ROM from Cyanogenmod's site. it is a great ROM, but im looking around for a vanilla 2.2 or 2.1 ROM and don't really know much about compatibility compared to other MT3G phones.
How am i supposed to know what ROMs on this site work for MT3G 1.2 and which ones don't?
The devs include supported radios in their ROM thread. They'll also usually have it listed in the thread title. I will warn you that there aren't many.
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DonJuan692006 said:
The devs include supported radios in their ROM thread. They'll also usually have it listed in the thread title. I will warn you that there aren't many.
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thanks for the info. at the moment my radio says 2.22.23.02 so i dont really know what ROM works with it when i only usually see 3.22 and 6.35... sorry. im just really ignorant when it comes to flashing.
They'll say myTouch 1.2 specifically. The 2.22 radio is normally a 32B radio but that's where the 1.2 is unique. It uses a 32B radio with a 32A board. Worse case scenerio that I've seen so far if you flash a ROM that isn't compatible is that you'll either start booting and it'll never finish, the touchscreen wont work, or you get thrown into a boot loop. All 3 are fixes by flashing a compatible ROM. I tried CM 6 and was unsatisfied with the performance so I downgraded to CM 5.0.8 and its worked pretty well for me for about 3 months now. Whatever you do, do not try flashing a different radio or SPL as you'll most likely end up with an expensive paperweight.
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DonJuan692006 said:
They'll say myTouch 1.2 specifically. The 2.22 radio is normally a 32B radio but that's where the 1.2 is unique. It uses a 32B radio with a 32A board. Worse case scenerio that I've seen so far if you flash a ROM that isn't compatible is that you'll either start booting and it'll never finish, the touchscreen wont work, or you get thrown into a boot loop. All 3 are fixes by flashing a compatible ROM. I tried CM 6 and was unsatisfied with the performance so I downgraded to CM 5.0.8 and its worked pretty well for me for about 3 months now. Whatever you do, do not try flashing a different radio or SPL as you'll most likely end up with an expensive paperweight.
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thank you very much for the info. at this moment, i am re-installing cm6 to see if it fixes a problem im having with Google Listen. if it does not, i already have cm5.0.8 on my sd card ready to be installed. i will keep an eye out for any new ROMs that work with this phone.
I really do want to try the Rogers 2.1 ROM thats out there right now, but im very scared of loading it without confirmation that it will work.
Rom Bible
Check the Rom Bible,
It has a list of the roms that have been used on our devices. I have used Chromatic, CM and Complete Eclair. As far as vanilla goes, try just flashing the fender stock rom and re-root with the Universal Androot application. This may be vanilla enough for you. I did that and it was too vanilla and settled on Chromatic 4.5. Although I am anxiously waiting for either Cyanogen or Chromer to get the Nexus One update loaded in. Good luck buddy it's rough out there for us MT3g1.2 guys. Oh, Dont use any Rogers rom's this will diffently mess with your phone. I was lucky enough just to experience boot loop but come to find out it could have easily been bricked.
Edit: by the way, I have been having trouble with the Rom Manager when it comes to flashing roms. I use Rom Manager for the back ups and restores. But when it comes to flashing a new rom use the RA Recovery 1.0.7G it works all the time. Otherwise you will get a Status 7 installation aborted.
MyTouch 3G 1.2, Black
T-Mobile
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
SPL: 1.33.0013
Recovery: Amon Ra 1.7.0G
ROM: Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS
Rom Manager for backup only
Set CPU 576 MHz
JIt On
Swap 32MB
Comp On
mistere372002 said:
Check the Rom Bible,
It has a list of the roms that have been used on our devices. I have used Chromatic, CM and Complete Eclair. As far as vanilla goes, try just flashing the fender stock rom and re-root with the Universal Androot application. This may be vanilla enough for you. I did that and it was too vanilla and settled on Chromatic 4.5. Although I am anxiously waiting for either Cyanogen or Chromer to get the Nexus One update loaded in. Good luck buddy it's rough out there for us MT3g1.2 guys. Oh, Dont use any Rogers rom's this will diffently mess with your phone. I was lucky enough just to experience boot loop but come to find out it could have easily been bricked.
Edit: by the way, I have been having trouble with the Rom Manager when it comes to flashing roms. I use Rom Manager for the back ups and restores. But when it comes to flashing a new rom use the RA Recovery 1.0.7G it works all the time. Otherwise you will get a Status 7 installation aborted.
MyTouch 3G 1.2, Black
T-Mobile
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
SPL: 1.33.0013
Recovery: Amon Ra 1.7.0G
ROM: Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS
Rom Manager for backup only
Set CPU 576 MHz
JIt On
Swap 32MB
Comp On
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thanks a lot for that advise. i did have a fender mytouch that bricked from goldcard error. i do agree that it was too vanilla for any real use. i just personally am getting a little tired of ADW. when you have something good for too long, it gets boring, but i by no means dislike it and will use any ROMs that have it. I will be checking on Chormatic right now to see what its like.
also, i always go into recovery for installing ROMs now. I usually also use Nandroid from the ClockWorkMod recovery to backup
DonJuan692006 said:
They'll say myTouch 1.2 specifically. The 2.22 radio is normally a 32B radio but that's where the 1.2 is unique. It uses a 32B radio with a 32A board. Worse case scenerio that I've seen so far if you flash a ROM that isn't compatible is that you'll either start booting and it'll never finish, the touchscreen wont work, or you get thrown into a boot loop. All 3 are fixes by flashing a compatible ROM. I tried CM 6 and was unsatisfied with the performance so I downgraded to CM 5.0.8 and its worked pretty well for me for about 3 months now. Whatever you do, do not try flashing a different radio or SPL as you'll most likely end up with an expensive paperweight.
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Thx you just answered my question lol - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788247
i though these phones were suppossed to have 288mb ram same as the hero ? in setcpu mine says 195mb ! ? :-(
Which ROM: Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS did you use 32a or 32b
mistere372002 said:
Check the Rom Bible,
It has a list of the roms that have been used on our devices. I have used Chromatic, CM and Complete Eclair. As far as vanilla goes, try just flashing the fender stock rom and re-root with the Universal Androot application. This may be vanilla enough for you. I did that and it was too vanilla and settled on Chromatic 4.5. Although I am anxiously waiting for either Cyanogen or Chromer to get the Nexus One update loaded in. Good luck buddy it's rough out there for us MT3g1.2 guys. Oh, Dont use any Rogers rom's this will diffently mess with your phone. I was lucky enough just to experience boot loop but come to find out it could have easily been bricked.
Edit: by the way, I have been having trouble with the Rom Manager when it comes to flashing roms. I use Rom Manager for the back ups and restores. But when it comes to flashing a new rom use the RA Recovery 1.0.7G it works all the time. Otherwise you will get a Status 7 installation aborted.
MyTouch 3G 1.2, Black
T-Mobile
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
SPL: 1.33.0013
Recovery: Amon Ra 1.7.0G
ROM: Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS
Rom Manager for backup only
Set CPU 576 MHz
JIt On
Swap 32MB
Comp On
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So did you use the AMON Recovery so that you could get the 32a Cyanogen ROM? I ask this because when I use the ROM Manager user interface and use the "HTC/Magic(GSM)" recovery then my MyTouch 3G 1.2 will not boot into recovery mode at all but I can download 32A ROMS. However when I use the "ION/MyTouch 32(GSM)" recovery manager I can boot into recovery and I can download 32B ROMS. However the only ROM Manager ROMs I can downolad via the user interface are 32B ROMs. Clearly I have a 32A phone so I can run 32B ROMs but I believe it will not use all of my memory so I am going to try and manually load 32A ROM HTC/Magic(GSM) while running the the 32B recovery ION/MyTouch 32(GSM). I am however wondering if your running the AMON Recovery so that you could load the Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS 32A or if you are running the Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS 32B.
beastiezee said:
So did you use the AMON Recovery so that you could get the 32a Cyanogen ROM? I ask this because when I use the ROM Manager user interface and use the "HTC/Magic(GSM)" recovery then my MyTouch 3G 1.2 will not boot into recovery mode at all but I can download 32A ROMS. However when I use the "ION/MyTouch 32(GSM)" recovery manager I can boot into recovery and I can download 32B ROMS. However the only ROM Manager ROMs I can downolad via the user interface are 32B ROMs. Clearly I have a 32A phone so I can run 32B ROMs but I believe it will not use all of my memory so I am going to try and manually load 32A ROM HTC/Magic(GSM) while running the the 32B recovery ION/MyTouch 32(GSM). I am however wondering if your running the AMON Recovery so that you could load the Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS 32A or if you are running the Cyanogen 6.0.0-DS 32B.
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See my fourth post. You can't run any ROM's that are specifically for 32A or 32B phones. The myTouch 1.2 is a hybrid and can only run ROM's specifically made for it. You don't have to use ROM Manager to download new ROM's. You can go to www.cyanogenmod.com, register for an account, and then go to their forum to download CM 6.0.0-DS and GApps. Take those two files and copy them to the root of your SD card, then load up recovery and flash from there. You'll also need to do a full wipe, but I'll let you do the research on that.
P.S. - CM 6.0.0-DS is for both 32A and 32B phones as well as the 1.2. The only difference is that the 32A phones need the EBI1 kernel flashed with everything else. For the 32B/1.2 you only need to install CM 6.0.0-DS and the Google Apps .zip.
DonJuan692006 said:
See my fourth post. You can't run any ROM's that are specifically for 32A or 32B phones. The myTouch 1.2 is a hybrid and can only run ROM's specifically made for it.
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By what I've experienced, that's not necessarily true, I've flashed (specifically) 32B ROMs from the G1 section that have run great, such as a Sense ROM, CaNNon Eclair (does NOT say "MyTouch 1.2 support" in either thread).
What I'm trying to say is that its kind of a trial-and-error thing, if you see a ROM for the MyTouch3G or G1 that looks cool, make a Nandroid Backup, then flash it. If it doesnt work, so be it, if it does, SWEET!
Note my sig, i have a MyTouch 1.2
Is there a port of Froyd by villianrom team for Sapphire, LE 1.2 yet ?? Really really really would be sooooo great if someone could port that awsome rom
still looking for any ROMs that are confirmed for 1.2
checked the ROM bible, but its a little difficult to see which actually works this phone with all the radio numbers in each title.
Supported Roms
If you go to CyanogenMod's website, and look for the HTC Magic forum, it lists all supported roms for our MyTouch3G 1.2 phones. I am currently using CM6 and have no problems with it.
i just checked the pinned ROM bible again. apparently i was looking at a different post with the same title, the one pinned does have 1.2 version ROMs
im using CR_Slide2G1_v1 at the moment. some things dont work, but all-in-all, its a great copy of the MyTouch Slide OS. even the sense clock works perfectly.
So awhile back on the Cyanogen Wiki, i read that the MyTouch 1.2 had a different touchscreen manufacturer than the HTC Magic or original 32B MyTouch3G, and that 32B ROMS would work with no touchscreen, BUT, i flashed a ROM from the G1 section, which is a 32B port of the stock Rogers 32A HTC Magic 2.1 Sense, and it WORKED. I read through the entire thread, and nowhere did it say "MyTouch 1.2 support", leading me to believe that i was the first to try it.
Basically what i ask is this: Since that particular 32B ROM worked with no touchscreen problems, can i flash any 32B ROM?
EDIT: An idea just popped into my head, is it possible that when i flashed the Stock Cupcake ROM for root, the Touchscreen drivers were somehow permanently embedded in the phone?, if so, BADASS!
(Testing different ROMs should be fun!)
I'm not a dev so take what I say with a grain of salt.
I believe flashing a 32b rom makes it so that you only have 192mb (or whatever the b had) of ram instead of 288mb, and will eventually cause memory leaks or something like that after being on for a while.
If you run into issues, that might be why.
Hey guys. Please bear with me and this sort of topic. I have a friend who has a Magic and recently rooted his phone. He's looking for a Stock FroYo ROM for a 32A running the new Radio (6.35, I believe), and I think asking you Magic experts is the best thing to do.
Can you post links to a few FroYo ROMs you recommend? Thanks. I appreciate it.
Just start looking. Just make sure that it meets the requirements of being for 32A devices. Some ROM's won't specify a certain radio, but some will. Just make sure you read through the thread once you find one that interests you as the dev should list any radio/SPL requirements.