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mods closing threads wtf?

Wtf is up with all these moderators closing threads?? first it was hero_over now noobnl? if we want to donate to help increase production on development for our device whats the problem? I used to think this place was pretty chill but lately its been a bunch of bs and there honestly you mods just slowing down dev. for our device by closing threads and pissing the developers off. The devs should have every right to put there donations link up here to get paid for there countless hours of hard work just like XDA does since if it wasn't for the devs you wouldn't get half the traffic you do right? So i would think the least you all could do is let them all post there donation links since again no one forcing them to donate.
And if you guys keep it up your just gonna lose your awesome development community that everyone comes here for and hopefully we will all migrate to a much better forum where this bs isn't a problem.
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Well, I am not a MOD here, but I can not at all agree with you thinking the threads are being closed because of donation links. It has been my understanding that donation links it itself are fine to ROMS/Kernals that are not vaporware.
There has been quite alot of "coming soon [insert kicks ass rom name here]" then ask for a donation.--- That is not tolerated, and shouldn't be.
There has also been alot of "coming soon [insert kicks ass rom name here]" but if you donate you can download it from my site over here, and when I feel like it I will post it here for the masses-- Using XDA as an advertising forum. -- Again more threads in the dev section offering nothing but a place holder.
I think the point is "put up, or shut up" we do not need to scour threads in the dev section that do not contain any dev material.
In addition, this thread will be the next target as it is not offering anything but constructive critisism (which I cannot flash to my epic) and makes for yet an even more poor dev section.
There is a general forum for a reason, I usually do not post but felt compelled to share my views on your thoughts.
-cheers

I agree. The point of closing those threads is simply to make this forum a better place to get what you need in the term of DEVELOPMENT/ROMS/etc. This isn't a place to advertise your "Donateware" ROM, or to have tons of Coming Soon threads. Get a beta our or something, release it, and post a thread.
Now I do agree in Coming Soon threads if its only a day or two out. Hell, it builds hype, and gives people something to look forward to. But if you are going to post a "Coming Soon" Thread and wait 2+ weeks before you even release anything, then it needs to be closed.
Anyway, please look into everything before you make such bold assumptions.

marc91988 said:
Wtf is up with all these moderators closing threads?? first it was hero_over now noobnl? if we want to donate to help increase production on development for our device whats the problem? I used to think this place was pretty chill but lately its been a bunch of bs and there honestly you mods just slowing down dev. for our device by closing threads and pissing the developers off. The devs should have every right to put there donations link up here to get paid for there countless hours of hard work just like XDA does since if it wasn't for the devs you wouldn't get half the traffic you do right? So i would think the least you all could do is let them all post there donation links since again no one forcing them to donate.
And if you guys keep it up your just gonna lose your awesome development community that everyone comes here for and hopefully we will all migrate to a much better forum where this bs isn't a problem.
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i guarentee this is probably another account for smeone who posted donateware, over and over after countless warnings

Whosdaman said:
i guarentee this is probably another account for smeone who posted donateware, over and over after countless warnings
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+1. I completely agree. I hate that idea. I mean, yes, these people put a lot of effort into their ROMs, and yes, they should get compensation, but it should not be mandatory, and it should not affect when you get ROM. Pimp your donations or site as much as you want, but the strength of this forum, and many others like it, is the free and open source nature of the projects on it. I would hate to see all that fall apart because of some people trying to take advantage of users. I completely agree with the Mods on this one.

Most people donate from the heart without being asked to do it and thats the way it should be.I owned Behold 2 and MyTouch Slide 3GS,both forums have excellent developers and never once did i see "Coming Soon" or "Go to my site to donate" thread.But every time developer bricked his phone you better believe everybody donated within a day to get them a new phone,and they never asked for donations-people did it cuz we loved the work they put it.Plus 90% of developers make roms for fun and not for money,but they should get donations because they brick alot of phones,lol.

I have to agree with just about everything said here after the OP.
Plus, check facts before ranting. According to Toast (the Mod in question), the changes to Herver's thread were made at Herver's request.
I find it hard to fault moderators for doing (a) exactly what they say they will in the forum rules, and (b) exactly what a thread starter asks of them.
I am not a developer, and maybe I would feel differently if I were, but XDA is supposed to be about community development and not marketing/sales.

marc91988 said:
Wtf is up with all these moderators closing threads?? first it was hero_over now noobnl? if we want to donate to help increase production on development for our device whats the problem? I used to think this place was pretty chill but lately its been a bunch of bs and there honestly you mods just slowing down dev. for our device by closing threads and pissing the developers off. The devs should have every right to put there donations link up here to get paid for there countless hours of hard work just like XDA does since if it wasn't for the devs you wouldn't get half the traffic you do right? So i would think the least you all could do is let them all post there donation links since again no one forcing them to donate.
And if you guys keep it up your just gonna lose your awesome development community that everyone comes here for and hopefully we will all migrate to a much better forum where this bs isn't a problem.
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You're an idiot.

1st post, welcome to the forums. haha

To the OP,
The answer to your questions can be found here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81, in particular, items 8 and 11.
You might also want to read these rules in their entirety so you fully understand them.
I am moving this to General, where it should have been correctly posted, and closing this. if you have any further questions on the moderation of this site then please do not hesitate to contact any member of the moderating team.
WB

Do not post links to synergy or other closed testing nighties!!!

I have gotten multiple requests from a few devs in the past week, including myn to delete links to their mirrors posted by users. Today, I had to delete a full thread about these. Stop posting links to said nighties. Devs will release the rom when it is ready to be called "beta". The reason they have not opened a new thread about this is because some people perceive the threads like this as "feelers" or with the sole purpose to draw donations, which is by no means the intention of the devs.
This is a final warning about this.

Right on man the devs work there ass off and are always working on something new and fixing problems sucks when people on here jack there links and post them all over here and then take credit for it Happy you did something about it.

It is crap that people feel the need to do things like that. Personally, I don't mess with "nightlies" unless it says AOSP. Stoked about Myn's next release though.

I agree 100%. Glad to see swift action from the XDA Admins / Mods.
Question - Should all links of the new ROMs be off limits, including changelogs and such? For instance, I noticed a link in the Warm 2.2 thread for the changelog for Myn's Synergy ROM.

jdogg836 said:
I agree 100%. Glad to see swift action from the XDA Admins / Mods.
Question - Should all links of the new ROMs be off limits, including changelogs and such? For instance, I noticed a link in the Warm 2.2 thread for the changelog for Myn's Synergy ROM.
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Changelogs for this rom can also be found in infectedrom as well afaik. If the link to the changelog has any way to link back to a mirror or a link to obtain the rom, then I would say it should be off limits. Please link me to the post in question if you can (myn's 2.2 thread is only a gazillion pages long and I don't have all eternity to look for it )

ehh, I think the issues is people don't understand that these rom's are for the experienced user. The Synergy is not released publicly yet because their is a risk some idiot will bork, brick, ruin their phone. also if you want it so badly go to the irc channel that's your best bet for getting the latest and most proper version some user's could think they're fixing something and share it on the forum and next thing you know 20+ dead device's
/end input and rant.

Sinistertensai said:
ehh, I think the issues is people don't understand that these rom's are for the experienced user. The Synergy is not released publicly yet because their is a risk some idiot will bork, brick, ruin their phone. also if you want it so badly go to the irc channel that's your best bet for getting the latest and most proper version some user's could think they're fixing something and share it on the forum and next thing you know 20+ dead device's
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great point man.

Although I agree with their general intentions, some developers have not been acknowledging or giving access to the nightly builds even for those who have donated. It's been almost a week since I donated to a developer and have yet to even get an acknowledgement, let alone access to any nighties, and I've seen posts from others who are in the same situation. I know donating does not automatically grant access to the nighties, but I think the developers should also be more forthcoming to those who donated to them.

antiphon said:
Although I agree with their general intentions, some developers have not been acknowledging or giving access to the nightly builds even for those who have donated. It's been almost a week since I donated to a developer and have yet to even get an acknowledgement, let alone access to any nighties, and I've seen posts from others who are in the same situation. I know donating does not automatically grant access to the nighties, but I think the developers should also be more forthcoming to those who donated to them.
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My point exactly. You don't donate to a dev and get automatic access to nighties. You donate because you feel like giving someone something for their hard work and should expect nothing in return. If the dev so happens to grant access in lieu of donations so be it, all the better for you. However, if a dev did post something along the lines of "donators will receive access to nightly builds and early releases", then that is where we would have to step in, as that is considered selling "money for a good or service". Sorry but if you donated, you donated and that is the end of it.

is it ok if i give someone who i know has access to like the myn links, the V links?? cuz right now myns links are broken, but V's arent....... if not, i will stop.... just plz dont ban me
and congrats on your 10,000th post egzthunder!!!!
i made it right, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14567216&postcount=42026, so please, dont ban me egzthunder, i was only trying to help

JGW310 said:
is it ok if i give someone who i know has access to like the myn links, the V links?? cuz right now myns links are broken, but V's arent....... if not, i will stop.... just plz dont ban me
and congrats on your 10,000th post egzthunder!!!!
i made it right, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14567216&postcount=42026, so please, dont ban me egzthunder, i was only trying to help
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Thanks and thanks

Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.

rockypr said:
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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Agreed. I volunteer
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rockypr said:
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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There are 3 moderators assigned here, plus I am always around as well as other Senior Mods. This place has become somewhat chaotic as of lately, but we will control it to the best of our abilities.

Google is your best friend. That's all I gotta say. *Hint*

Ya alot of flame wars going on. Sad people were stealin links and posting the devs hard work and claming it theres. Glad the ADMIN stopped it.

If you've made it a rule to close threads involving the posting of links to nightlies at least somewhere on the site there could be link to the rom!

There is a link posted. Goto the Incredible section and get it there.

rockypr said:
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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If you see anything that you feel is against the rules, or shouldn't be posted then please PM me or one of the other assigned Forum Mods for the Evo.
We can't read every individiual thread and do rely on members help. Remember this is your forum, so please help us keep it as clean as we can!
The 3 mods currently looking after this forum are:
josefcrist
toastcfh
And myself. You can PM me directly from the link in my sig.

rolfd said:
If you see anything that you feel is against the rules, or shouldn't be posted then please PM me or one of the other assigned Forum Mods for the Evo.
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THIS. rolfd has been more than helpful each and every time I have sent a private message.
Thanks!

Br1ckd is gone to root, goodbye xda.

Moving on to greener pastures
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See ya' on the flip side ...

Yeah, I think I may move as well but I'll keep in touch with xda. seriously, mods. This forum is for Developers, not for you to be a little ***** and think you're the king of everything.
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The f*k happened anyway?!?? I heard rumors and I'm not stateside so I don't log in as much so I really don't know what happened

Oo oo I know

This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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And without developers say goodbye to your advertising sponsorship. Slippery slope guys.
Remember, this is just a Web forum, nothing more and nothing less.
Maybe a revaluation of your perceived value of importance is known order.
It's just a real shame that the best devs keep leaving, and always for similar reasons. Biting the hand that feeds is never smart.

lostwhat83 said:
This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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No its good for everyday people to post what they get when they flash new roms. Now bad mouthing that's a different story..

Hmmm that's ridiculous..
But i like this site..

Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...

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Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...
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I don't know exactly what happened, but it wasn't something that an average user did. Brick'd was a fun guy. One of the mods decided to close the thread for a reason that I do not know, and brick'd wanted to say goodbye.
oka1 should be the only mod for our forum, he actually gets us + hes pretty damn cool. even though i have like 70 infractions from him from a year ago haha

Judging from Br1ckd's post in Zen I think something happened to another on the DD team. My guess is it was Dan but not sure. The mod in our tablet forum can go on power trips. Because Br1ckd is a Recognized Developer he has the power to lock/unlock his own thread.
Pretty sure it was an all for 1, 1 for all type thing. He's in a better place now. So lets not mourn his loss but rejoice in his new beginning. Hey, it's almost Easter and Padre Wood is done with his sermon.

Woodrube is on point. I pulled my stuff, closed my threads, and stopped hosting on xda due to something that happened in the sgs2 forums between a trusted friend and DD member, and an overzealous, aggro moderator. As well, the same DD member has also been receiving harassing pm's that the mods didn't seem to want to help with.
I've spoken with Oka1 about my decision and the facts surrounding it, and thanked him heavily for his part in cleaning up the Vibrant forum in recent months. He really has had a big hand in bringing this particular subforum to where it is now.
I harbor no ill will towards anyone over here and I still check in from time to time. However, I also stand by those who stand by me. When my boy had enough of the BS, it was obviously time for a change, and as a new team, we showed great unity in unanimously voting to move.
Hope this sets the record a bit more straight. Feel free y'all, to pop by and say hi sometime, sit a spell, and visit some old friends, and some new ones.
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From this Moderator of the Vibrant
I Like all the guys in this forum, and this forum's Devs have been Stellar and worked together to keep things even and fair, properly giving credit to those who deserve. AS to the other forums I really do not know what happened, but I do know the SGS2 forums is a pretty tough bunch. So, it is understandable that some devs would get tired of the rowdiness..... That's unfortunate. I will strive to talk to the superiors about this incident so XDA can learn from it and make this forum a more conducive environment for all......
Thanks to all in this forum for being the good participants you are ........ ~~~ oka1

lostwhat83 said:
This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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They just need to have a better "recognized developer" system. that way ONLY developers can post in dev section, and they have an available option to enable/disable posting in their thread - leave discussion threads for the general section. as long as the moderators cleaned up the general section once a day, making sure there is only one discussion thread per rom - it would be a flawless system
I think the more annoying thing is how people can theme a ROM, add a couple apks, along with some build.prop/ram tweaks, and then post it in the dev section as a new ROM. that drives me mad, and then the noobs encourage this behavior (because they dont know any better) by saying "why complain about having more options??", and by calling these members "developers" - release it under themes/apps, not development
^^the end result of this is a cluttered development section with multiple versions of the same ROM - all of them having poor explanations - so you dont know which ROMS are legit enough to monitor because they all have the same damn features listed

Wow

Why would a mod close the sgs3 thread? It was a thread for fascinate owners who are considering upgrading. It was a discussion within this community by people who wanted opinions of others they have come to know and trust, not some fan boy who posts in the sgs3 forum. Why should I go there when the opinions I want are here. And it was in the general section ffs. I mean what was wrong with that, its not like it was posted in development. Get off your high horse, this is our community too.
Oh, and by the way, while you were closing this thread in general for no real reason, you missed two posts in development that don't belong. GTW
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Since xda chooses not to assign mods who are a regular part of the community, mods routinely jump in with no sense of what is actually going on in the forum and go willy nilly. Then half the forum leaves and goes to rootzwiki until the mod loses interest.
Certainly not the first time this has happened.
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Oh I know I just couldn't believe it happened to a benign general discussion thread is all.
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a bunch of bs if you ask me...im suprised chef tony did that??

Edit: Never mind

I sent him a message at least asking why... I can't find any rules that we violated. this is why I've been bugging the admin to make either me, droidstyle, some well known person in the community a mod, it happens every few months that a mod comes in here and abuses their powers or something and pisses all of us off, we need somebody who is actually a part of the community that knows what is going on.
how come none of the threads that are in the wrong section have been fixed? how come the old threads from over a year ago that we keep requesting closes on are still open? how come the excess noob posts and things haven't been cleaned up at all? all that happened is some of our fun got ruined without him even giving a reason or explanation. just because you're a mod doesn't make you part of the community, or us not part of it. doesn't matter how much power somebody gives you if you use it wrong and on things you have no knowledge about.
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Preach on. I've been on xda since the Eris and the fascinate forums since around launch. I really don't understand why xda stays with a mod system that it has clearly outgrown. The mods are good but the system sucks.
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somebody should pm sixstringsg and see if he would reopen the thread.

Got a response from Chef_Tony. Here's our conversation.
Re: fascinate forum sgs3 thread
Originally Posted by sageDieu
I don't see the point of closing that thread, it is in anticipation of the phone because nobody in the Fascinate forum has a gs3 yet... the gs3 forums are such a cluster f*** that nobody wants to try and post there anyways. we have simply been discussing the phone that a majority of the fascinate community is upgrading to, is there a certain rule or something we broke? if so then I apologize for any offense caused. we just don't see a point to taking away our discussion.
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hi,
maybe i should have given a further explanation, why i closed the thread, but since i did not read it entirely, i wouldn't want to comment on the contents.
i did not close it for a real rule violation, but simply for the reason that the fascinate general section should be exactly that, general discussion of the fascinate, tips, tricks and tutorials. of course, users of one particular device also get together to talk about other devices, but at 10 pages, i felt it got a bit out of hand, because the same thing goes on with every device and when people start talking about a number of other devices in every device's section, it might get a bit cluttered.
still, i know, what you are getting at. i am mostly active in the sgs2 forum and of course, people are discussing the sgs3 there as well, with aspects only relevant to existing sgs2 customers, like if it is a good idea to upgrade, when you already have the s2 and what plans allow you to change phone after a year and so on. i understand the fascinate thread was basically the same thing, it was targetted entirely at current fascinate users from north america, most of them on verizon plans. that is something you don't have in the sgs3 section, yet.
closing the thread was just a first step, the plan is to move the thread to the sgs3 section and re-label it to give current (and former) fascinate users a platform to discuss the sgs3, with actual s3 users to look into and maybe offer a helping hand, since they already know everything about the device, but would not actually go into other devices' forums to help people there.
this step will be done in a few minutes, then the thread will be re-opened and has a permanent re-direct from the fascinate section, so you can still visit it conveniently from your device's section.
as you see, at no point was there any issue with the thread itself, it is just some minor maintenance to keep the forum clean and organized, feel free to continue the discussion in a few minutes.
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So basically he did it so that we could have a thread in the GS3 section for once we get our GS3s. Would have been nice for him to tell us that.

lol i think there are more important things that need to be accomplished here at xda. first step would be organizing that cluster f*** of a sgsIII forum.

I was reading Chef Tony's response and at first was thinking thats bs reasoining, than he made sense and I agree with him. And its still convenient cause I check this forum not the GS3 that often, and the thread is still here is fine. I was wondering where that thread went earlier haha.

I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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sageDieu said:
I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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Here ya go.

Reading this thread has made me a bit nostalgic. I've become quite accustomed to the little family of Fascinate owners here, small but dedicated. It now seems very real that the sgsIIIs are packed up and ready to ship. Even our threads are leaving us.
I don't post a great deal, but I follow you guys all the time. I suppose it was inevitable that the sgsIII would break things up, but it's sad nonetheless.
For those of you heading to the next big thing, I'll almost certainly see you there eventually. For those staying, I look forward to further discussions about the little phone that could.

I echo your sentiments. It's a shame that the powers that be decided to deprive us of the ability to discuss an issue that effects the community within the community. A thread in the gs3 forums is great and all but it isn't the same as it does not have the same dynamics or personalities.
Anyway, I may eventually make it over to gs3 land but aokp and devil kernel is a really nice setup on this venerable device. I honestly don't know if I can live without aosp and aokp so I may make it there eventually or just say screw it and snag a galaxy nexus on the cheap.
It's been excellent folks. This is the first phone I've ever truly found to be superb. But most of that is because of the hard work put in from devs like jt1134, adrynalyne, nitsuj, stephen, and many many others.
Those of you who are staying, I'll see you around. Those who are leaving, ill catch up with you all eventually :beer:
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Interesting site rules... Are they really enforced?

The rules on this forum aren't well observed and I have to mention this, cause I find it sooo funny (or maybe "IRONIC") that things like this happen on this site. I am particularly talking about the Omega ROM Series thread...
I have literally read all 3950+ pages of the Omega thread and the same question (since the upgrade from Omega 34 to 35) has been asked over and over again (with some people still patiently answering it, whilst others are getting frustrated).
Can't believe that these people are allowed to post in that thread, but because I don't have 10 posts, I can't.... Seems a bit ludicrous to me, that people are allowed to post questions over and over without first searching or reading (as per the rules), but stupid rules (like not being able to post in a developer thread unless you have 10 posts) are enforced. Especially when I have been on this site for around 9 months (but just haven't signed up before or posted anything).
Very frustrating, especially since I have a question that I haven't read in the 3950+ pages and haven't found when searching, but I can't ask it... AAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!
Sorry, needed to vent (plus it adds another post, unless a moderator deems this as inflammatory and deletes it)...

You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
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mchlbenner said:
You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
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Thanks.. I thought it might get a reaction. Just frustrated that's all...

This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITeuaqcpckc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

slaphead20 said:
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Thanks... Interesting that people are finding this thread to be spam (not sure I would have defined it that way, but I guess if that's how it's being taken, then I must apologise)..

mchlbenner said:
You just as bad for posting this spam!!!!
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This is not a spam this is a personal opinion.
I think that that kind of people are a must have on a forum that is this popular. Now everyone can find out with a single search that xda can make your phone wonderful or answer a lot of the questions you have. My opinion is to ignore them until they realize that they cannot get the info that way.

stefankorun said:
This is not a spam this is a personal opinion.
I think that that kind of people are a must have on a forum that is this popular. Now everyone can find out with a single search that xda can make your phone wonderful or answer a lot of the questions you have. My opinion is to ignore them until they realize that they cannot get the info that way.
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Thanks mate. I knew this thread was always going to invoke a reaction (and probably guilty of posting inflammatory comments, so technically may not be within the rules), but at least it's helping my post count (until a moderator deletes them)...

It would seem that they were enforced, but they aren't enforced that strongly. It's because the moderators and admins have personal lives too, so they can't spend every living second here monitoring what we do and that we behave as is expected of us.
The 10-post rule isn't something they have to watch over. It's an automatic limit lifted only when the user has accumulated 10 or more posts,

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The 10-post rule isn't something they have to watch over. It's an automatic limit lifted only when the user has accumulated 10 or more posts,
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Hey there
True and not true
I remember perfectly when it was implemented, or rather why.
If memory serves me correctly, at the end of last year, early this year, the system of 10 posts was implemented precisely to avoid situations similar to the one described.
If on one hand there are people of good sense, regardless of how many posts written, it is also true that it is easier for a beginner, put the same questions repeatedly over and over again.
Unlike other "pseudo" members, when there is someone who draws attention to something that, in the opinion of the writer is incorrect, I think this kind of feedback is very welcome. If there isn´t members who express their sincere and correctly their thoughts, guaranteed that this space would not be what it is today.
respects
Ricardo

Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???

iampun33t said:
Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???
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How hard is it to post 10 times. Just go on anything and add an opinion and ignore it.. LOL at least that is what i did..

Meemo23 said:
How hard is it to post 10 times. Just go on anything and add an opinion and ignore it.. LOL at least that is what i did..
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Its not hard I know. Its just simply frustrating. Having to post 10 times before being able to post in developer forums and Having to wait 5 mins before next post.

Why would u make thid useless thread??!
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Ausboy 2011 said:
Why would u make thid useless thread??!
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Why would you post in this "useless thread"?
OP: I think I can address some of your concerns. As Theshawty points out, humans do the moderating and the "system" bars new users.
If I had my way, registration would be by application only or every post was hidden until approved by a moderator, but alas I'm not in charge, yet.
In instances where the same, repeat posters are ignoring developer requests & subsequent moderator warnings, they will eventually be banned. The process leading upto the ban is quite lengthy, its also detailed here --> http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/banning-policy-revealed/
This is to ensure users are given a chance to stop.
While the 10 post restriction can be frustrating, its there to protect XDA from spambots. Which has dropped significantly since its introduction.
If you see the same individual users asking the same repeated questions, hit the report button. Tell us, in as much detail. Each report is actioned by a moderator. There are 8 of us covering Samsung International handsets, we will get to it and take appropriate action.
As we're human we cannot see every post by every user in every thread. We rely on the community (you) to help shape it and keep it clean.
Thanks
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andyharney said:
Why would you post in this "useless thread"?
OP: I think I can address some of your concerns. As Theshawty points out, humans do the moderating and the "system" bars new users.
If I had my way, registration would be by application only or every post was hidden until approved by a moderator, but alas I'm not in charge, yet.
In instances where the same, repeat posters are ignoring developer requests & subsequent moderator warnings, they will eventually be banned. The process leading upto the ban is quite lengthy, its also detailed here --> http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/banning-policy-revealed/
This is to ensure users are given a chance to stop.
While the 10 post restriction can be frustrating, its there to protect XDA from spambots. Which has dropped significantly since its introduction.
If you see the same individual users asking the same repeated questions, hit the report button. Tell us, in as much detail. Each report is actioned by a moderator. There are 8 of us covering Samsung International handsets, we will get to it and take appropriate action.
As we're human we cannot see every post by every user in every thread. We rely on the community (you) to help shape it and keep it clean.
Thanks
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Because if we wanted to read the rules we would click on the rules and read them when we signed up... common sense mate
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This is a very useful thread, my post count just increased :good:
Would be nice if the system could rather look at a user's "search count", or "read count". But I guess it could be tricky to configure/code that.
My point, similar to OP, I must have read more than 80% of the 2883 posts in Sotmax's ROM thread, and as a result I was able to flash and use within minutes. Been using it for more than a week, yet I am not allowed to post in his thread.
It seems counterproductive to force 10 useless posts for someone who has clearly spent a lot of time on the forum. And I understand the reasoning as explained earlier in this thread, hence my suggestion to refine the rules, if at all possible from a technical and resource point of view.
Merry Christmas all :laugh:

XDA has a system in place to prevent duplicate threads but duplicate questions within threads I imagine is a lot harder to pull off. Also those that look at the 10 post limit as 10 useless posts should reconsider what XDA is here for. It's not hard to make 10 posts.. move around the forums, ask a question, offer advice or a suggestion here and there.. its not hard to hit 10. Its that way for a reason
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iampun33t said:
Same situation dude.
I have been a follower of XDA since last 3-4 years but hadnt joined till now. I bought my first android device about 3 years ago and stumbled upon XDA to know the meaning of rooting..!!! Since that time I have had numerous Android Devices and have had numerous roms for each device. I recently joined and was in a developer forum when I found a post annoying enough to comment on, but when I wanted to, XDA wouldnt let me. I had to have 10 posts. It was so frustrating, (the 10 posts rule) that I didnt visit XDA for days. But who can stay away..?? I came back and am now trying to have my 10 posts so that I can too post in developer forums.
I would like to add that there are many developers like myself, who are good at what they do. but just for the reason that they are new to join the site, but not actually new to the site, they have limited access. I hope this restriction can be waivered by some option. Like a multiple choice quiz....???
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Thanks mate.
Totally agree... Have been developing (in other technologies) for over 20 years. Am a relative noob when it comes to Android development, but used to own the LG-P990 and was on Owain's thread for a while. There were some issues that came up in that thread quite a bit, which no-one had an answer for, but I had a fix for some of them. Of course, I couldn't post it, so was tempted to sign up then. Gotten to the point, where I think I can offer some advice, so decided I had better start posting some stuff so I could help out (and also tap into the wealth of knowledge in these forums to get help as well)...

And now you're back down to 7. If your going to spam a thread with 5-6 consecutive post to increase your post count, try not to pick one where a moderator has posted. Hit the multi quote button. No need for 6 separate posts.

See the rules could be better arranged and also looked at.
I meannthe most obvious rules i see around is the whole ' no postingnin off-topic to get your ten post' rules.
Yet the mods clearly state that you are aloowed to post in the 'say hi thread' which is in off-topic.
Seems abit of a wrong rule really.
Anyone agree?
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