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Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

Just bought one off eBay, are they OK?

Hi All
Just bought a 64gb one off fleabay for not much more than 100 quid. It was my fault I know the build quality is good so I bought it off the spec. Reading the posts here should I be sticking it back on Fleabay?
I see Lenovo have released a Vanilla of ICS but my question is; is it a good release?
Which flavour of ICS works best? Does anyone know if Jellybean will be released?
Thanks
Paul

IrishBiker said:
Hi All
Just bought a 64gb one off fleabay for not much more than 100 quid. It was my fault I know the build quality is good so I bought it off the spec. Reading the posts here should I be sticking it back on Fleabay?
I see Lenovo have released a Vanilla of ICS but my question is; is it a good release?
Which flavour of ICS works best? Does anyone know if Jellybean will be released?
Thanks
Paul
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Hey mate look in the android development subforum. Jelly bean custom rom by krook1 almost everything working. Is for ideapad k1. No idea which u bought cos you didnt actually indicate a model number.
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Thanks for the info, It should be arriving in the post today

I really would recommwnd krooks jelly bean cm10 over the ics much much smoother and no need to flash recovery just reboot iinto it with the option on rom manager
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IrishBiker said:
Hi All
Just bought a 64gb one off fleabay for not much more than 100 quid. It was my fault I know the build quality is good so I bought it off the spec. Reading the posts here should I be sticking it back on Fleabay?
I see Lenovo have released a Vanilla of ICS but my question is; is it a good release?
Which flavour of ICS works best? Does anyone know if Jellybean will be released?
Thanks
Paul
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Do you have the K1 or the Thinkpad Tablet? All of the Lenovo devices have been sharing this forum (because there's not enough of us for a forum for each device).
This thread is about the Jellybean/CM10 build for the Thinkpad: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846044
This is standard Jellybean for K1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842262
This is CM10 for K1:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1825176
Make sure you flash the right rom for the device you have. It probably wouldn't brick it to flash the wrong one but it would be unusable until you found/flashed the correct rom.

[Discussion] Jelly Bean on Xperia Play

So we have had unofficial versions of jellybean for a while now. All the way back to the jbx think tank. Now I hear there is a possibility for a Jellybean update(POSSIBLE. Please don't spam this thread saying "Jellybean never! Muahaha! And ect.) now that firmware has been finally certified for the first time in many months! Now let's get discussing! :beer: What are your thoughts on these things? Not just an official update but Jellybean in general.

They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.

I think it will be possible if Sony will work with devs to get everything too 100% mainly the touchpad though
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Spatinator said:
They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.
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Just a theory, but i also hope that theyll release jb

Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.

srelyt said:
Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.
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You think sony's update policy is bad? You should see Nokia's, they are notorious for abandoning devices within months of their release. Probably why they've all but disappeared from the cellphone competition. Coming from Nokia handset's, N-gage, N900 etc, I'd say sony is a God Send.

Actually from my experience they are all bad in term of updates. I can only recommend Google Nexus devices, although Samsung devices come close because they don't lock their bootloaders, if it is, its usually Verizon or ATT.
For now I will only buy a Nexus device or an Xperia Play 2.
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Very interesting stuff here. I don't really care if we get offical Jellybean. Ill probably switch to a Nexus phone since Im not much of a gamer and use this to play minecraft.
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I'm not a big fan of either verizon or s.e. for the lack of support for this underdog of a phone. but the devs here obviously showed both of them that when you work together as one you can give people what they want...& thats the freedom of choice.
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I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.

sirkingchase said:
I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
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If u want emulation, remember that FPSe and Mupen64 got touchpad support ONLY on ICS and +.
So just flash last CM9.1 FXP 152 + farenheit fix and you're done.
Unfortunely, JB is still no go for us, because touchpad causes lag, nobody knows the reason. Except touchpad, JB is 100% funcional tough..

Jelly bean it will be like a gift in christmas for me xD come on developers work more on it!!!!!!!
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The best rom thus far...
The best one I tried so far is this one
The gapps work (when flashed)
The SIM Card works (nice)
Relatively Stable
Fast Bootup
CyangenMod Based.
You do need an unlocked BL
I tried others like SlimBean but it was too buggy and the gapps kept failing on me.
Recommend giving this a try.

Need some reviews on this phone

I might buy this phone but the company is not famous in my country so was skeptical about it. Just want your reviews guys and its pro's and con's.. Is there any scope of having cm7,9,10 on this phone and is the phone "sources" friendly?
THANKS!

I'm sorry, but you have to be more specific, because there are several models of this phone:
Huawei Ideos X5, or the U8800
Huawei Ideos X5 Pro, or the U8800Pro
U8800-51, which in turn is also called "Impulse 4G"
All in all, you'd be foolish to purchase the original version, which I own, aka. the regular Ideos X5 (U8800). The phone was, for its price, rather excellent, but it is quite outdated at this point. You may want to consider the pro model if it's in your price range as it has official Android ICS, but I'd suggest you to look into Sony Xperia U. This phone was denied official JB, but it still officially has ICS at a low price point with a nice developer base. Don't take my word for this, as I don't actually own this device, though.
Note: The regular version, U8800 has a stable ICS ROM as well, built by dzo. As Huawei abandoned us on 2,2 Froyo with an unfinished 2,3 Gingerbread beta, we are all grateful for dzo for his efforts. (Among other developers)

Tonttunator said:
I'm sorry, but you have to be more specific, because there are several models of this phone:
Huawei Ideos X5, or the U8800
Huawei Ideos X5 Pro, or the U8800Pro
U8800-51, which in turn is also called "Impulse 4G"
All in all, you'd be foolish to purchase the original version, which I own, aka. the regular Ideos X5 (U8800). The phone was, for its price, rather excellent, but it is quite outdated at this point. You may want to consider the pro model if it's in your price range as it has official Android ICS, but I'd suggest you to look into Sony Xperia U. This phone was denied official JB, but it still officially has ICS at a low price point with a nice developer base. Don't take my word for this, as I don't actually own this device, though.
Note: The regular version, U8800 has a stable ICS ROM as well, built by dzo. As Huawei abandoned us on 2,2 Froyo with an unfinished 2,3 Gingerbread beta, we are all grateful for dzo for his efforts. (Among other developers)
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Sorry for being not precise. I am thinking about buying the pro version and its about 200$ in my country INR 10000. It seems very gud phone on net and for very cheap! I think it got ICS official and has cm10 in development phase.

hell_lock said:
Sorry for being not precise. I am thinking about buying the pro version and its about 200$ in my country INR 10000. It seems very gud phone on net and for very cheap! I think it got ICS official and has cm10 in development phase.
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Blefish is working on CM10/10.1 and new kennel 3.4 for u8800nonpro.
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Mlopik said:
Blefish is working on CM10/10.1 and new kennel 3.4 for u8800nonpro.
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I will wait and see which phone gets the best development till the new year. I will start my dev work as soon as I get my phone. Is the bootloader unlocked in this phone? Any way to recover a hard brick on this phone? Something like USB jig for samsung phone?

If you are seeking phon with good support then check my signature.
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It's good enough for daily usage and we've struck lucky with some very dedicated developers (like dzo), but from what I've gathered so far this phone is a nightmare to develop for. You sometimes get the feeling that Huawei has been rummaging around in the wheely bin outside the factory, looking for parts to put in there. Even for the exact same model, there seem to be several hardware revisions.
If you can get it, the Ascend G300 and G330 are much better options. Better built and the G330 might get official Jelly Bean if Huawei continues with one update per phone (X5 got GB, Honour and G300 got ICS).

riDDimann said:
It's good enough for daily usage and we've struck lucky with some very dedicated developers (like dzo), but from what I've gathered so far this phone is a nightmare to develop for. You sometimes get the feeling that Huawei has been rummaging around in the wheely bin outside the factory, looking for parts to put in there. Even for the exact same model, there seem to be several hardware revisions.
If you can get it, the Ascend G300 and G330 are much better options. Better built and the G330 might get official Jelly Bean if Huawei continues with one update per phone (X5 got GB, Honour and G300 got ICS).
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Just saw g300 and g330... 330 is a very gud phone in all aspects but it doesnt hav dev support till now whereas 300 has a very active dev team who made cm10 stable for their phone..
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Yeah, it's only been available for 3 months. I'd be surprised if it didn't get that kind of attention. It's very good value for money and should sell well.

Jelly Bean for P6810

There are a few threads about Jelly Bean being here at last for the 7.7, well, as far as I can tell, it isn't. It is here for the P6800, but nothing for the P6810.
Is there a cogent reason for this? Or is it simply another example of the ineptitude and basic incompetence of a company that has grown too large too quickly and is simply rolling on under the weight of its own inertia?
If anyone knows anything about (official) JB for the P6810 can they put me right?

It certainly coming this month, cant you think straight? Once they realease for p6800 they should do one for 6810 cause they arw the same
And the question you should ask yourself is why did you buh p6810 in the first place
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3g model always get the update ahead of wifi model. No need to get jelly about the normal practise.

someone needs to cool down
also fyi samsung was NOT an overnight big shot corporation
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I'm still waiting for JB for the UAE..... Samsung has a LONG WAY TO with updating the 7.7 tab to JB. Probably won't see the official UAE rom until next year when Apple Pie is out.

vbx said:
I'm still waiting for JB for the UAE..... Samsung has a LONG WAY TO with updating the 7.7 tab to JB. Probably won't see the official UAE rom until next year when Apple Pie is out.
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i haven't seen the ICS update for UAE model yet
anyone knows about ICS for UAE (fully Arabic) official ROM from samsung ?

irmani said:
i haven't seen the ICS update for UAE model yet
anyone knows about ICS for UAE (fully Arabic) official ROM from samsung ?
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ICS for UAE is already available. Download it here.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=8416

vbx said:
ICS for UAE is already available. Download it here.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=8416
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Thanks

long6688 said:
It certainly coming this month, cant you think straight? Once they realease for p6800 they should do one for 6810 cause they arw the same
And the question you should ask yourself is why did you buh p6810 in the first place
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:cyclops: Useful.
Why would I buy a 3g tablet when it is much more expensive and I have a smartphone to which I can tether?
Every so often it is nice to let off a bit of steam. Since the official UK ICS update has only just come through I don't feel too far off the mark on my coments about Samsung and a JB release.

Arobase40 said:
Problem is that Samsung dev teams are fully under pressure as another department decided to spread out multitude of different devices just to overwhelm the market so there is no more places for competitors... ^^
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I don't need it for myself, but do you know the Thanks button is on your left side ???
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OK. Just tested mine. It works !
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It should come out in June, but of course this will vary by region, but a general release for some region should be June, hopefully.

Arobase40 said:
I don't understand what you've done ???
You flashed an ICS ROM for P6800 on your P6810 and it didn't break it ??? ^^
That's really unusual !!!
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I should have deleted the first part of your quote....
I was referring to the "thanks" button, which I duly hit on a user's behalf
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Some of us don't want to spend the extra money for the 3G version, I can easily and freely tether my phone which has GBs of data tht I'd otherwise never really use...
I'm a bit annoyed too, why not release JB for both since 3G has 1 extra feature, just a matter of removing that and republishing it for the P6810..., kinda lazy Samsung...

4th June, still no JB on my p6810 :crying:

It sucks so much
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Oh well...still waiting for p6810 JB...dear samsung...it's really time to update this tablet.
It should have been supported best of all galaxy tab beeing the only amoled tablet in the world and still it rules in multimedia departments and in term of outdoor display visibility and just to remember... It got a FULL rgb display completely no backlighted beeing an amoled plus so it really shines even in term of battery where the amoled advanced need to be backlighted not to wear rapidly...a world of difference

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Oh well...still waiting for p6810 JB...dear samsung...it's really time to update this tablet.
It should have been supported best of all galaxy tab beeing the only amoled tablet in the world and still it rules in multimedia departments and in term of outdoor display visibility and just to remember... It got a FULL rgb display completely no backlighted beeing an amoled plus so it really shines even in term of battery where the amoled advanced need to be backlighted not to wear rapidly...a world of difference
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I feel you.
Unfortunately we P6810 customers are so far down the "pecking order" that we're probably fallen off it.....
JB will come eventually for our device model, this month, this year or the next ??
But it will come.
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I hope it still comes out soon, because if it doesn't release before september for the wifi version, then there probably is a slim chance it releasing any time after that.

UpInTheAir said:
I feel you.
Unfortunately we P6810 customers are so far down the "pecking order" that we're probably fallen off it.....
JB will come eventually for our device model, this month, this year or the next ??
But it will come.
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well, I really want to keep this tablet cause of the amoled display ... but it sucks to got still ICS on a so powerfull tablet that could change from night and day from a simple software update...I hope samsung is not going to release another amoled tab and is doing that just to avoid that people keep their 'obsolete' tablets.... I really hope NO... cause the p6800,P6810 are really WELL MADE and they sold them under their real cost of production 'thanks' to apple ban!
if this tablet was not banned by apple crying it could have sold out completely beeing the best made tablet still today ... the thinner one ... the only with a full Aluminum body assembled PEFECTLY!
that's a tablet ... now samsung give us the REAL software to move that thing

They just keep pushing the JB release for the 6810 further out........... Sucks cause I liked the 7.7 alot. But it might just be time to move on!