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Secondary battery

Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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I dont know if I can deal with battery issue with Nexus 4.

All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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You'll get a lot of replies from people saying they are delighted that with their battery life and claim that something is wrong with you.
From my experience with the Galaxy Nexus, I know that battery life with Android varies all over the place depending on how you use the phone and what apps you install. Install the wrong apps or get file corruption--that you can't pin down--the battery will drain just sitting there unused.
if you intend to keep the phone, I suggest getting a 12000mAH external power pack. Thanks Google for not allowing us to readily swap the battery.

Galaxy nexus 2 hour screen on time. Carried a spare battery. Nexus 4 close to 4 hours screen. I guess what I am saying is I can cope because I came from actual bad battery life.
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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My iphone 4s only lasts 8 hours with heavy use. Streaming movies, Sirius sat, games, web surfing.
This phone outlasts that so far with the same stuff.
But its terrible you should sell it.....

The battery has been so so for me. I'm hoping when a good kernel and Ron come it will be a lot better. I benefit from working in range of a outlet .
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Heavy use...2 days get real you mean you barely touched it.
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GS3 battery dominates the N4 battery even tho it has the same 2100mah size.
I guess the AMOLED >>> IPS LCD in terms of battery drainage.
Sucks! I guess the Nexus 4 battery life will be only slightly better than my One X =(

I personally love the threads where former galaxy note owners and droid razer maxx owners ***** about battery life.
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I swear guys I normally use same apps and on Note2 I was able to get day and day and half with heavy use and teo days with light use..but this N4 just drains battery like theres no tomorrow. Esp browsing internet..youtube..and other stuff that pulls a lot of data... The only way I can save battery is it i put brightness to almost zero and turn off wifi and data completely. I have all the normal stuff syncing and not often...facebook pulls data every 2 hours and other apps as well. I really love this device but WHY WHY WHY Google/LG decided to have non removable battery. I RESPECT Samsung so much more because they give you removable and decent battery and also give you SD card option which I can live without but its nice to have. I guess you get what you pay for.
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GS3 most certainly does not dominate....
Amoled is only more efficient for blacks. Every other color it displays uses more power on AMOLED vs LCD. In fact, white uses 70% more power in AMOLED displays than LCD.

Watching 1hr video on Netflix over hspa+ at full brightness today dropped my battery from 80% to 29%. My galaxy nexus with the same use would have dropped maybe half of that.
Does that sound normal?
I'll be able to check if I have a defective unit pretty soon. I have a RMA for my earpiece speaker not working, but I'm literally stuck on a charger at all times, lol. I honestly don't really care about the crappy battery life, I still love this phone!
On the plus side, it seems to charge as fast as it loses charge, lol

dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Can't deal with battery?
I sincerely recommend you to Xperia S. Stylish, elegant and charming.

What was the best phone battery wise you guys used or currenly use ? Blackbery 8300 for me. I charged it once a week...NO KIDDIN
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I have owned mine since the 21st and I have noticed the battery to be on par with my S3 that is HIGHLY overclocked.... That being said, It could definitely be better! And the S3 has Verizon LTE so I don't know where all this drain is coming from... I use the same apps on all of my devices... Oh well! Time to get a good external battery...

dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Getting 3.5 hours screen on time here . with sync on , GPS on , screen 75% brightness. No issues here ,battery's great !!! " tweaking battery is waste of time . try letting it die charge it while off then another hour while on then pull charger , ( if anyone replies with letting die is bad your wrong , and u can send me all the links u want your still wrong

User error. You left a phone that has a massive 3100 mah battery for one with 2100.

My battery seems to be fine, previously I had a GSM GNex with the extended battery and my N4 has done just as well based off my usage.
I remove it from the charger around 7 a.m., use it all day for text, calls, browsing, emails. When I get home at 6 I am around 35-40% so I charge it for about 45 minutes to get me through the evening and then charge all night.
This routine has gotten me through virtually every phone I have had with a few exceptions (Treo 750 and SX-66 come to mind)

4.5 hours of screen on time is my average so far. Roughly 50% better then my Galaxy Nexus. Other than GPS remaining off, I haven't done anything special to conserve battery life. Not sure if I'm the exception, and I do wish I could swap the battery, but I can't complain too much.
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[Q] Battery life...?

Third day with my Nexus 4, and battery life seems to be just like the old days of my gnex ? I am really surprised. Tried different rom and kernel combinations. My battery is draining fast. Cant blame any app since i have been running the same apps on my gnex as well as my sold s3, experienced an impressive battery life on the s3. Even tho the s3 and the N4 has the same 2100 battery ? Any explanation? Ty.
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plz check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992627&highlight=battery
some methods have been posted there to increase battery life

ugotproblemz said:
plz check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992627&highlight=battery
some methods have been posted there to increase battery life
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Will you give a brief summary? Who wants to read through that entire thread?

Tried to read throught the threas. Nothing that helpful ! I have 36 percent left atm and my screen time is only 55 mins. Lol ?
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Wait until new phone syndrome wears off.
You've only had your phone 3 days, and your still flashing new roms, which sucks up a lot of juice. Let it settle for a few days.
Also a 4.7" display sucks down battery. My phone last all day no problem now that I've had it for a few weeks. First week it wouldn't last 6 hours... because I used it for 6 hours screen on constantly.

I9505 problem battery

hello,
i'm using a galaxy s4 since 3 months now but i have a problem since this week.
my phone looses signal at some point. nothing that i know that can cause it. it doenst turn back when activating airplane mode and then deactivating this mode.
and when i turn of the phone it turns on to the standard galaxy S4 logo and then samsung logo but then it just dies.
i have to connect it to a charger and then it works.
also my phone doenst give an announcement when my battery is emptY. it sometimes displays 15% on battery and then it dies. when charging the battery icon displays and the battery is completly empty?
i looked at my battery and it is a little bit swollen and i only use official charger at night from samsung and during the day one of nokia
anyone else with this problem?

I had the same issue. My battery was also swollen.
Replacing my battery solved the problem. At least till now (fingers crossed)
nielsvg said:
hello,
i'm using a galaxy s4 since 3 months now but i have a problem since this week.
my phone looses signal at some point. nothing that i know that can cause it. it doenst turn back when activating airplane mode and then deactivating this mode.
and when i turn of the phone it turns on to the standard galaxy S4 logo and then samsung logo but then it just dies.
i have to connect it to a charger and then it works.
also my phone doenst give an announcement when my battery is emptY. it sometimes displays 15% on battery and then it dies. when charging the battery icon displays and the battery is completly empty?
i looked at my battery and it is a little bit swollen and i only use official charger at night from samsung and during the day one of nokia
anyone else with this problem?
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Exact same issue here. Replaced the swollen battery with a new one and its working as usual again.
Strange that original battery lived only a few months.
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Same problem with my phone. My warranty cover battery 6 months and tomorrow I'm going to service and I''ll ask them about this problem. I'll share info here

jefff said:
Same problem with my phone. My warranty cover battery 6 months and tomorrow I'm going to service and I''ll ask them about this problem. I'll share info here
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Willing to see the result.
Cheers.

Also somewhat swollen. Started expanding slowly untill the battery was dead. I have the 9500.

My battery goes down pretty quick when on LTE.
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MaKTaiL said:
My battery goes down pretty quick when on LTE.
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Unless you have a goof full LTE connection, expect that. Lte and battery do not get along with each other.
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occupational_hazard said:
Unless you have a goof full LTE connection, expect that. Lte and battery do not get along with each other.
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I´m experience that too. My battery is going slowly... Every new charge theems the phone lasts less... Battery issue?

I have experienced this during my Galaxy W days. And samsungs centre's technician told me it's because I charge my phone while using it for hours, and it's straining the battery causing the gradual swell. Since then I never plug my phone while using it and until now my s4's battery is still good as new. My phone's 4 months old already.
FYI.

gyxter said:
I have experienced this during my Galaxy W days. And samsungs centre's technician told me it's because I charge my phone while using it for hours, and it's straining the battery causing the gradual swell. Since then I never plug my phone while using it and until now my s4's battery is still good as new. My phone's 4 months old already.
FYI.
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I allways charge it overnight. And own many galaxy devices and none has this issue.
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gyxter said:
I have experienced this during my Galaxy W days. And samsungs centre's technician told me it's because I charge my phone while using it for hours, and it's straining the battery causing the gradual swell. Since then I never plug my phone while using it and until now my s4's battery is still good as new. My phone's 4 months old already.
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I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's Samsung's was of "diverting" the fault to the user. The battery should not swell because you're using it while charging. I've never had this issue with with my other phone, which had a very small battery by design and had to stay plugged in if I were to get any real use out of it. Over charging does gradually reduce battery life but no swelling.

I have also had this issue. Started a few days ago with random reboots and signal losses.
Has anyone taken it back to the shop? Will they want to keep the phone for testing? I just want to replace the battery and not have to send my device away for a long time. I need to know because it's rooted and if they see that the warranty will be voided. Phone is only 3 months old, this really shouldn't happen.

I think it's battery issue. Maybe Samsung spares on the battery this time... on s3 it was on memory.
I solved this issue flashing a Google edition romantic with a full wipe (formating internal sd). Take some days with this Google edition tom and battery drain stopped. This can be related to last firmware releases. Just guessing...
Google edition 1.4 by coolboy
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Battery

Battery on my Note 4 has always been great but as I'm just about at the 1 year mark of owning the device the battery has been dying faster and now in the last week when it gets to 25% it suddenly drops to 9% and I get a low battery warning, then less than a minute later it shuts off and when you plug it in it shows 0%.
Genuine Samsung replacement batteries are only 24.99 on their site so not a big deal but I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing this at the 1 year mark.

You may have overlooked by title but root cause was localized to degrading battery capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62810580
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63147881
2nd edit: the theory was raised that the battery degrading is being prematurely induced by leaving the phone plugged in overnight. My battery appears to be going strong but I've rarely left it plugged in for extended periods of time; minutes as opposed to hours after fully charged.
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Type secret code *#0228# in the keypad (press quickstart 5-7 times, the screen will lock after pressing, but don't worry, unlock the screen and press until 5-7 times) and charge your phone fully. The problem will solve !

I noticed similar degradation a few weeks ago. So I bought a Mugen 8k battery. Problem solved. I now get over 12 hours SOT.
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GeminiMT said:
Type secret code *#0228# in the keypad (press quickstart 5-7 times, the screen will lock after pressing, but don't worry, unlock the screen and press until 5-7 times) and charge your phone fully. The problem will solve !
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Damn man this was a great idea. My phone has been freezing and randomly restarting and getting extremely hot. Last night my battery went from 100% after a full charge down to 0 when I woke up. I was getting read to do a factory reset and thought I would try this and I think it really fixed it. So far so good anyway. Thanks!
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t4d73 said:
Damn man this was a great idea. My phone has been freezing and randomly restarting and getting extremely hot. Last night my battery went from 100% after a full charge down to 0 when I woke up. I was getting read to do a factory reset and thought I would try this and I think it really fixed it. So far so good anyway. Thanks!
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You can flash AEL Kernel to last your battery better. Flash via recovery. Link download at echoerom.com, 7.8 is the lastest version.

GeminiMT said:
You can flash AEL Kernel to last your battery better. Flash via recovery. Link download at echoerom.com, 7.8 is the lastest version.
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Yeah I was thinking of that but in January I'm due for an upgrade and I plan on trading this in so I'm keeping it stock for now. I'm looking at the S7 maybe as my next phone. That's a BIG maybe though. We'll see what they come up with but it sounds promising.
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UPSGuy said:
Battery on my Note 4 has always been great but as I'm just about at the 1 year mark of owning the device the battery has been dying faster and now in the last week when it gets to 25% it suddenly drops to 9% and I get a low battery warning, then less than a minute later it shuts off and when you plug it in it shows 0%.
Genuine Samsung replacement batteries are only 24.99 on their site so not a big deal but I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing this at the 1 year mark.
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Not me. I've heard of other people with the same experience of getting only one reliable year out of a battery, but my original Galaxy S3 battery only just died a couple weeks ago. That's 3 years, I think, of reliable usage. Your mileage may vary, I guess.

UPSGuy said:
Battery on my Note 4 has always been great but as I'm just about at the 1 year mark of owning the device the battery has been dying faster and now in the last week when it gets to 25% it suddenly drops to 9% and I get a low battery warning, then less than a minute later it shuts off and when you plug it in it shows 0%.
Genuine Samsung replacement batteries are only 24.99 on their site so not a big deal but I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing this at the 1 year mark.
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I had the same problem with my Note 4. I got a Samsung replacement battery through best buy and it did the exact same thing at first but it seems to have "learned" that the new battery will last longer.
Now if only these rapid updates that sprint is pushing out will stop trashing my phone