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Is the any way I can buy apps from the play store with a efpos card?

Hi all,
I am 16 years old, and therefore I am not allowed to have a visa or credit card in Australia, so I only have an efpos card. But I can't seem to be able to buy apps from the play store with it, is the anyway I can do that? As I have to resort to finding free apk's for any payed app I want, as I can't pay for it on play store.
Cheers
Corey
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Do you mean an Eftpos card, as in any card that can access the EFTPOS network? Kids can get a Mastercard debit card in Oz from age 16. Without knowing what kind of card you mean & what restrictions it may have I don't know sorry. Hopefully someone else will.

Hi, sorry yes I mean eftpos, the auto currect on my phone lol.
And isn't a debit card the same thing as the card I have?
Cheers
Corey
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fishingfon said:
Hi, sorry yes I mean eftpos, the auto currect on my phone lol.
And isn't a debit card the same thing as the card I have?
Cheers
Corey
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I don't know what card you have. Different banks have different accounts for under 18's & with that different cards with different restrictions. And yes what you have would be a debit card, but presumably one with restrictions because of your age. I access the UK Google Play Shop with a debit card but I'm an adult so have no restrictions on it. And I can use it in all the same places that a credit card is accepted.
Without knowing what account you have I can't know. But I'd say it looks doubtful. Unless you can get your parents to get one of those prepaid cards & load it with some money for you. I don't know if that would work.
Australia Post do Load&Go
http://auspost.com.au/personal/loadandgo-reloadable-prepaid-visa-card.html
I think Google make you pay in the same name that is on the card. So you might have to have your Google Wallet name in the name of one of your parents.

edit: lol oops, I was thinking of Steam. Google doesn't use paypal.
Debit is likely not the same as your eftpos access card. However, if you look at the requirements for applying for a debit card on CWB's site, you'll see you only need to be 16, likely the same for other banks. You can sign up for a debit card online, and they mail it to you in a few days.

Craigeth said:
Yes, if you link your account to a Paypal account. Transfer some balance to your Paypal and spend away.
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You can't link your Google Wallet to your Paypal account. Paypal & Google are at war. They started a lawsuit against Google last year.

fishingfon said:
Hi, sorry yes I mean eftpos, the auto currect on my phone lol.
And isn't a debit card the same thing as the card I have?
Cheers
Corey
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I have a card through ANZ and it works. Does it have a Visa or MasterCard logo? I remember there were some EFTPOS cards that worked more like ATM cards than credit cards. I had one through Commonwealth bank but that was back in the late 90s. I thought they had all been changed to work more like credit cards. Might be a restriction on your account.
Just go buy a Visa or MC debit card and put some money on it. That might be easier.

Not sure about your bank, but you can get a Debit Mastercard with Commonwealth Bank at 16 and over (I got one a while ago). Before that I was stuck with the Commonwealth Keycard.
If you don't want to do that then have a look at some of the prepaid options like the Load&Go Reloadable Visa Prepaid cards from AusPost. You can load them by cash or EFTPOS.

[Q] Buying Nexus 4 From Play Store With PayPal?

I'm selling stuff on eBay currently, and I should have enough money to buy the Nexus 4. All my sales are going to PayPal though.
To my knowledge, Google and PayPal don't play nicely together. eBay for instance (I guess being with PayPal) bans the use of Google Wallet on their site. Play Store doesn't allow payment with PayPal.
I could just send the funds from PayPal to my bank account, but it seems my bank doesn't want to offer me a debit card (I'll have to look back into this though) Google Wallet also doesn't seem to be able to just take funds from Bank Accounts either. I had an idea of requesting a PayPal Debit Card and just using that on Google Wallet, but I'm not entirely sure if I'll be approved (waiting to hear back from them on this, but if I'm not approved, I'd rather have a backup plan).
Any suggestions as to what I can do?

So you bank didn't give you a debit card with Visa logo on it. Maybe I missed it.

my bank doesn't want to offer me a debit card
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Are you kidding me o_0 which bank are you using, get rid of them ASAP. And paypal also give a debit card so check everything again.

Red Wolf said:
Are you kidding me o_0 which bank are you using, get rid of them ASAP. And paypal also give a debit card so check everything again.
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I'll try checking with them tomorrow about it but I thought before I recall them not offering me a card for some reason.

espionage724 said:
I'll try checking with them tomorrow about it but I thought before I recall them not offering me a card for some reason.
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If that's the case, why on earth would you stay with them? Go with a local credit union, or Charles Schwab (no fees, free check card, lets you cash checks through a smartphone app).

If you get a Paypal debit card, you can set it up to use your bank account as a back-up funding source if your Paypal account has no balance.
It's a debit card, not credit, so I don't see why you wouldn't be approved. The only thing is that if you're planning to purchase the N4 on opening day, the card may not arrive by then.

So it seems my bank won't give me a card because of my credit score or something along those lines. I'll have to look more into this a bit later though.
Still didn't hear anything from PayPal about their debit card thing either.

espionage724 said:
So it seems my bank won't give me a card because of my credit score or something along those lines. I'll have to look more into this a bit later though.
Still didn't hear anything from PayPal about their debit card thing either.
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Credit score matters with a debit card?

jacklebott said:
Credit score matters with a debit card?
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Banks actually do a credit check nowadays just to let you open a current account. Another reason for needing a credit score with a debit card is because if Visa pre-authorises a transaction even though you don't have funds in your account, your bank has to honour the payment. This can and does does happen, if you withdraw all your money from your account at a cash machine then go and use your debit card straight away the Visa database still lags thinking you still the balance before you took your money out and authorises the payment. And guess what? The bank still debits your account, put your account in arrears, minus money in your account means lending money to you, which means they're taking bigger risks because of your crappy credit rating. Banks can't risk that can they? better safe than sorry.

Makaijin said:
Banks actually do a credit check nowadays just to let you open a current account. Another reason for needing a credit score with a debit card is because if Visa pre-authorises a transaction even though you don't have funds in your account, your bank has to honour the payment. This can and does does happen, if you withdraw all your money from your account at a cash machine then go and use your debit card straight away the Visa database still lags thinking you still the balance before you took your money out and authorises the payment. And guess what? The bank still debits your account, put your account in arrears, minus money in your account means lending money to you, which means they're taking bigger risks because of your crappy credit rating. Banks can't risk that can they? better safe than sorry.
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I learn something new every day :good:

Goto Walmart and get a Walmart money card. Its a preloaded debit card that you can use with direct deposit. Basically a checking account with out a bank. Also has free bill pay and most frayed of a traditional checking.
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ThunderStick said:
Goto Walmart and get a Walmart money card. Its a preloaded debit card that you can use with direct deposit. Basically a checking account with out a bank. Also has free bill pay and most frayed of a traditional checking.
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I was actually just at Walmart earlier and saw one of these cards; are they usable on Play Store? I thought I heard something about virtual credit cards or something
Edit: Someone also brought up the Play Store Gift cards, which I also saw at Walmart. Would anything stop me from just buying $300+ worth of gift cards, and redeeming them all on my account?

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Edit: Just checked my email, looks like I was approved for a PayPal Debit Card

espionage724 said:
So it seems my bank won't give me a card because of my credit score or something along those lines. I'll have to look more into this a bit later though.
Still didn't hear anything from PayPal about their debit card thing either.
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this is a lie, it would really be useful if you say the name of the bank, even my girlfriend that has really bad credit got a debit card when she opened a checking account.

lionheart7282 said:
this is a lie, it would really be useful if you say the name of the bank, even my girlfriend that has really bad credit got a debit card when she opened a checking account.
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Charleroi Federal Savings Bank

Banks will deny you a debit card if you are on a high risk checking account. Like if you write to many bad checks or have over drawn you're account too many times.
Credit scores may come in to play as well if you are young and have very little banking history. Debit cards are just as risky as credit cards for both the Banks and the consumer. They both allow you to spend more than what is available to you (credit limit or account balance, both can be exceeded).
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ThunderStick said:
Banks will deny you a debit card if you are on a high risk checking account. Like if you write to many bad checks or have over drawn you're account too many times.
Credit scores may come in to play as well if you are young and have very little banking history. Debit cards are just as risky as credit cards for both the Banks and the consumer. They both allow you to spend more than what is available to you (credit limit or account balance, both can be exceeded).
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Ah, I see. I'm guessing my credit score might be pretty bad due to whatever a relative might of done with my personal info or something, but idk (I personally never actually signed up for a credit card); probably something I should figure out real soon...
As for the PayPal debit card, is there any reports of it arriving sooner then 7-10 days?

espionage724 said:
Ah, I see. I'm guessing my credit score might be pretty bad due to whatever a relative might of done with my personal info or something, but idk (I personally never actually signed up for a credit card); probably something I should figure out real soon...
As for the PayPal debit card, is there any reports of it arriving sooner then 7-10 days?
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It took about a week to get mine.

this is what i don't get. why doesn't google let us pay with paypal? Is it because of competition with google wallet or something else?

imeem said:
this is what i don't get. why doesn't google let us pay with paypal? Is it because of competition with google wallet or something else?
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I believe it is because of competition. eBay banned Google Wallet, PayPal won't let you deposit funds to Google Wallet, Google won't let you pay with a PayPal account directly :/

[Q] Nexus 7 & App Purchases without credit card..

Hey guys, since the Nexus 7 is my first "tablet", I'm curious how I can handle things...
So, to get to the point, without a CC, I'm not able to buy stuff on the play store. (Since I don't have one and the Gift cards aren't present, too)
So I'm curious, I have the 3G model, so could I buy apps with carrier billing (like I do it on my phone) or isn't this part of the 3G tablet thingy..?? (I don't have a Sim card for my tablet.. Yet)
Also, there are apps with IAP, for example, a file manager, which contains the "pro" version via the app.. (But is not shown in the play store as a stand alone app)
If I buy it with my phone, am I able to install the "pro" version on my tablet, too?
These things are quite confusing when it comes to tablets...
I hope this wasn't asked before, if so, please guide me to the right direction... Since Google gives me weird hacking sites as results..
Thanks in advance and happy easter!
P.S.: Or can I add my phone number and billing information to my Googleaccount, so the "buy via carrier" will always appear like it does with CC's?
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You need a credit card to purchase from the Play Store, no other way around unless someone sends you money to your Wallet account.
You can install purchased apps on other devices if you login to the Gmail account that holds the purchases.

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Slazur said:
You need a credit card to purchase from the Play Store, no other way around unless someone sends you money to your Wallet account.
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Really? Okay... Then I'm screwed lol ^^
Thanks!
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Try a prepaid credit card or a visa gift card! Remember they do charge monthly fees.

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culaterout said:
Try a prepaid credit card or a visa gift card! Remember they do charge monthly fees.
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I will, since I know now that there's no "normal" way, thanks.
Also saw I posted in General instead of Q&A, I'm sorry and if any mod can move my thread I'd be thankful
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whatever you buy on your phone will be available on your tablet (as long as the nexus 7 is supported by the app).
So, if you need to purchase something, buy it on your phone and then download it on your tablet. Simple as that.

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whatever you buy on your phone will be available on your tablet (as long as the nexus 7 is supported by the app).
So, if you need to purchase something, buy it on your phone and then download it on your tablet. Simple as that.
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I was a bit confused with this IAP, for example the file manager I wanted to buy does this in app purchase. And I thought I have to rebuy it when I download it on my tablet.. Since it's not a stand alone app :/
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I use debit credit on Google play, sort of a new debit card that is set up with a visa card # & pin. No credit needed, it just takes money right out of your chequeing account.
Ask your bank about it.

Try coolapk, as a leecher or else use debt card
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If game is from gameloft you can buy it on gameloft.com and pay with paypal

Thy started selling Google play gift cards.
Other than that, prepaid visa is the best thing, its also useful for amazon, PayPal... I got mine for free (I'm from Slovenia), no fees whatsoever, except if I wanted to withdraw money from the cash machine. It was a promotional offer, so look out for those.
Be aware of those 'prepaid visa gift cards', they cost way more then they should. For every purchase they could charge you a dollar or something, which is a lot when you're buying a 75c app.
Or you can ask your parents or some other relative to lend you their cc. I borrowed my dads until I got my own prepaid visa.
Oh, why would you buy a file manager, you can get so many of good ones for free like ES for example.
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Couldn't you just buy a Play Gift Card from a local store?
Thats basically a pre-paid credit card anyway?
Or just buy a pre-paid credit card?

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The G Play gift cards aren't available in my country atm..
I think I'll have to talk to my bank and make them an offer they can't refuse
Thanks to all for the answers
Edit: thanks for moving my thread!
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Google PlayStore Gift Cards - How do they work?

Hi, all...
Does anybody know anything about Google PlayStore Gift Cards ?
I don't have a credit card (but do have a debit card), and there's a fair number of apps I would like to buy from PlayStore...
...and these Gift Cards seem like a viable alternative for somebody who doesn't have a credit card.
So, how do they work? Does one need a credit card in order to redeem one? Do they have anything to do with Google Wallet?
I'm aware this question has little to do with the Nexus 7 generally, but in my defence, the stuff I'll be buying will be Nexus 7 related... for example, franco.Kernel updater.
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So if anybody has any experience of using these cards, and any details they could provide... it would be very much appreciated.
I would hate to buy one... and then find (for whatever reason), I can't use it.
Thanks in advance.
Rgrds,
Ged.

I use them all the time. It just goes straight to your google account. You can even do app refunds with them. Go get one man their cool.
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Dno if any1 knows, but since I purchased my N7 when that deal was on, I got £15 play credit.
However I still have 59p of it left, which is unusable as most apps are 62p or higher.
If I purchased another £15, would my 59p be added on, so its £15.59 or would it just go to £15 and I'd loose my credit?
THANKS!

Wilks3y said:
Dno if any1 knows, but since I purchased my N7 when that deal was on, I got £15 play credit.
However I still have 59p of it left, which is unusable as most apps are 62p or higher.
If I purchased another £15, would my 59p be added on, so its £15.59 or would it just go to £15 and I'd loose my credit?
THANKS!
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When you redeem a card, it goes into your Google account. Any added credit is lumped into that sum.
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Leraeniesh said:
When you redeem a card, it goes into your Google account. Any added credit is lumped into that sum.
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Sweet cheers bud,

I've paid for apps using a debit card before.
Credit card seems to be just an American wording
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Duvuk said:
I've paid for apps using a debit card before.
Credit card seems to be just an American wording
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I too have paid for apps on Debit Card, however I'd prefer to have a pre-paid card applied. (Too many transactions in my account as it is)!
And Credit Card has nothing to do with Americans.
Debit Card = You need Funds in your account to buy items etc, and have a very small if any over-draft.
Credit Card = You need 0 Money what so ever, the card pays for the items and add's it as "Credit" to your account, then at the end of every month you pay the credit off. Its a type of loan sort of, hard to explain.

I know the difference, what I meant was that they don't seem to define a difference between the two in America that I've come across.
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Duvuk said:
I know the difference, what I meant was that they don't seem to define a difference between the two in America that I've come across.
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Well, in America, I've never seen a debit card that can't be processed as either debit or credit. As long as the money is in my account, I can use my debit card as credit or debit. The only real difference is that some point of sale transactions take longer to process if I run my card as credit.
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RKight said:
Well, in America, I've never seen a debit card that can't be processed as either debit or credit. As long as the money is in my account, I can use my debit card as credit or debit. The only real difference is that some point of sale transactions take longer to process if I run my card as credit.
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Thanks everybody for your input.... (sorry for not getting back sooner, but been busy with family stuff).
I recall trying to use a debit card a while ago, and for some reason it didn't work. So I suspected I needed a credit card... or maybe I was just doing something wrong.
Anyway... I've bought a Google Play Store gift card, and I intend to buy several more... 'cos they're really easy to use!
Spent the past couple of days splurging (relatively speaking)... updated Apex to PRO, Titanium to PRO, got HD Widgets, francos updater app, Temple Run Oz and a whole slew of other stuff.
Just got be careful I don't HARDBRICK.... my wallet!!.
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For anybody considering buying one of these Gift Cards, but might be a bit reticent (as I was) - here is how they work.
(This is from my experience as a UK user... it might be slightly different elsewhere.)
First, you definitely don't need a credit OR debit card (this was my primary concern) to use one.
Just buy the Gift Card... they come in £10, £25 and £50 denominations.
Scratch of the cards backpanel... this yields an alphanumeric code.
On your Nexus 7, open the PlayStore App. From the menu, select the 'Redeem' option.
Enter the alphanumeric code from the Gift Card.
On first use, you will be requested to set up a Google Wallet... this just requests your Google Account password and your postcode.
And that's it... you are now free to buy whatever you want from PlayStore.
Rgrds,
Ged.

RKight said:
Well, in America, I've never seen a debit card that can't be processed as either debit or credit. As long as the money is in my account, I can use my debit card as credit or debit. The only real difference is that some point of sale transactions take longer to process if I run my card as credit.
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You can't have a Debit card that acts as a Credit Card, they're two totally different processes.
Hense the name difference. Debit is just "Credit" that you already have, a.k.a Money, Credit is where they loan you the money and you pay it back, which is why you have a "Credit" rating, to say how good you are at paying Credit back.
You can't have a credit card until your 18, hence there is a vital need for Debit cards, especially nowadays with the digital revolution and all.
You have to remember, all money on a credit card and in a bank doesn't actually exist, they're just digits on a screen, the only reason you have those digits is because you have handed your banker money (which he then invests to earn a profit). I've ranted a little here, but I didn't want you to assume they're the same, banking is very complex and thats why they have a variety of different banks and cards.
I don't want to sound Smug, but I must stress THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
GedBlake said:
Thanks everybody for your input.... (sorry for not getting back sooner, but been busy with family stuff).
I recall trying to use a debit card a while ago, and for some reason it didn't work. So I suspected I needed a credit card... or maybe I was just doing something wrong.
Anyway... I've bought a Google Play Store gift card, and I intend to buy several more... 'cos they're really easy to use!
Spent the past couple of days splurging (relatively speaking)... updated Apex to PRO, Titanium to PRO, got HD Widgets, francos updater app, Temple Run Oz and a whole slew of other stuff.
Just got be careful I don't HARDBRICK.... my wallet!!.
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For anybody considering buying one of these Gift Cards, but might be a bit reticent (as I was) - here is how they work.
(This is from my experience as a UK user... it might be slightly different elsewhere.)
First, you definitely don't need a credit OR debit card (this was my primary concern) to use one.
Just buy the Gift Card... they come in £10, £25 and £50 denominations.
Scratch of the cards backpanel... this yields an alphanumeric code.
On your Nexus 7, open the PlayStore App. From the menu, select the 'Redeem' option.
Enter the alphanumeric code from the Gift Card.
On first use, you will be requested to set up a Google Wallet... this just requests your Google Account password and your postcode.
And that's it... you are now free to buy whatever you want from PlayStore.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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HARDBRICK your wallet. Haha :good:
Might have to get myself another, I loved just splashing out on some really nice apps.
and the more we do, the more Dev's are gonna want to create Android apps WINWIN!!

Wilks3y said:
You can't have a Debit card that acts as a Credit Card, they're two totally different processes.
Hense the name difference. Debit is just "Credit" that you already have, a.k.a Money, Credit is where they loan you the money and you pay it back, which is why you have a "Credit" rating, to say how good you are at paying Credit back.
You can't have a credit card until your 18, hence there is a vital need for Debit cards, especially nowadays with the digital revolution and all.
You have to remember, all money on a credit card and in a bank doesn't actually exist, they're just digits on a screen, the only reason you have those digits is because you have handed your banker money (which he then invests to earn a profit). I've ranted a little here, but I didn't want you to assume they're the same, banking is very complex and thats why they have a variety of different banks and cards.
I don't want to sound Smug, but I must stress THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
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While I understand that the two cards are different, he was saying that a debit card can be processed as a credit sale at the register. I do this all the time. When you pump gas for example.. the pump will ask "credit or debit " , if you choose debit, you enter your pin number. Credit you don't..
Yes the cards are different, but both cards can generally be used interchangeably during a point of sale transaction.
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Serinety said:
While I understand that the two cards are different, he was saying that a debit card can be processed as a credit sale at the register. I do this all the time. When you pump gas for example.. the pump will ask "credit or debit " , if you choose debit, you enter your pin number. Credit you don't..
Yes the cards are different, but both cards can generally be used interchangeably during a point of sale transaction.
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While this may be the case, if your card is a "Debit" card, you can not use it as a credit card.
Credit Card being the card that allows you to have transactions without actually having the available funds.
I have only a debit card, and yes I use it to pay for gas, but I have to already have the funds within my account. Whereas if I had a credit card, I could have $0.00 or £0.00 in my account and still purchase the gas.
I think we are agreeing here, but in a different mind set.

Convert the $50 Google Play credit to Gift Cards

I already have about $50 in Play Store Credit. I'll get another $100 from two Nexi purchases. I wish there was a way to convert that credit into Google Play Store Gift Cards so I can gift them. It's still a Google Play Store Gift card and goes straight to Google. I just don't understand why Google doesn't allow us to do something this simple and obvious. Anyone have any workarounds to make something like this possible?
I saw some suggestions on creating an App that takes in-app payments and using it. Seems convoluted and I'd lose 30%. But I guess I may just try that.

That is convoluted, but if you were going to not be able to use it at all in a year it would be better than losing it.
Edit: does it work to pay for Google Music? Maybe try that?

Because if they allowed you to exchange them for a physical gift card you can resell them to a number of sites that buy gift cards. Most if not all of them do not accept e-gift cards or cards that expire like the Nexus gift.
Ebay does not allow selling e-gift cards either (although plenty do). I'm not sure what happens if you get flagged on eBay selling an e-gift card.

To be honest I don't really know what the credit can be used for. I guess whatever crap that's on the play store like music and movies which I can probably get for free otherwise?
I'll likely just use it to support app developers and buy paid versions of their stuff.
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I'm pretty sure you are just emailed a code for the $50 when ordering the phones. So all you have to do is give that code to the person you want to gift it too and they redeem it

WoodroweBones said:
I'm pretty sure you are just emailed a code for the $50 when ordering the phones. So all you have to do is give that code to the person you want to gift it too and they redeem it
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That's right. I already got the code for the 6P which will arrive tomorrow. The problem with the $50 code is that it's a lot for a single person. But if I could have split it into 2 $25 or the $100 into 5 $20, it would make a much easier gift to give to family and friends.
I already have paid apps for any apps that I use. I have a few in the wish list, but nothing really compelling. I'm never going to buy any of the ridiculously priced movies. I get most of my music from Amazon. But most of my music is really ripped from my CDs. Google doesn't have a particularly good India music collection.

radeon962 said:
Because if they allowed you to exchange them for a physical gift card you can resell them to a number of sites that buy gift cards. Most if not all of them do not accept e-gift cards or cards that expire like the Nexus gift.
Ebay does not allow selling e-gift cards either (although plenty do). I'm not sure what happens if you get flagged on eBay selling an e-gift card.
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That's a good point. I hadn't considered that. Gift cards don't expire. These would. But I wish I could have at least split up the Play Credit. Oh well.