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So I bit the bullet and leaped onboard after it seems the AT&T Threat Data letters have ceased. I am going from my iphone 4 to the Note (Cant wait!). It will be here tomorrow.
Should I look for anything except my microsim to sim adaptor plug and play?
Has the imei problem been rearing its head or should I go without a hitch?
Have read here that you no longer need to do anything with APN's. True?
Just want to be prepared for everything that could happen tomorrow, to make it a seemless transition to this beauty.
Thanks in Advance and Happy Holidays to Everyone!

Put your SIM in, enter APN settings (google AT&T APN settings) and go from there.
If you get a text, email AT&T by googling the executive office's email. Professionally state your case that your Note is a smartphone and not a tablet and they should fix you up.

If I were you, I would go to my local AT&T store and have them issue you a standard
sims card (no charge for this, although your IPhone will not be active). Their have been reports of these adaptors getting stuck in the Note's sim slot and damaging the
Phone. I didn't want to take the chance.
Charles

cbnash said:
If I were you, I would go to my local AT&T store and have them issue you a standard
sims card (no charge for this, although your IPhone will not be active). Their have been reports of these adaptors getting stuck in the Note's sim slot and damaging the
Phone. I didn't want to take the chance.
Charles
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I would agree a new sim would prbably be safeer, however I would hate to get caught up in a snafu of a blockage problem having to deal with someone else who may not be informed that it is a phone, hence causing a bigger headache.
Has anyone had problems with the microsim to sim adaptor? I could not find any issues.

GatesHD said:
I would agree a new sim would prbably be safeer, however I would hate to get caught up in a snafu of a blockage problem having to deal with someone else who may not be informed that it is a phone, hence causing a bigger headache.
Has anyone had problems with the microsim to sim adaptor? I could not find any issues.
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Congratulation on your new Note! Welcome to the family!
As for the IMEI issue, I would just lift the IMEI (enter *#06# in dialer) from another Samsung display device at the AT&T store (like an SGS2 or Infuse 4G, something that ISN'T LTE!) and call in to customer care stating that you are upgrading your device to -insert type of device you got IMEI from store- and give them that IMEI. Switch your iPhone unlimited plan to "Smartphone Unlimited" plan (they cost the same). At this point you should be able to put your new SIM card into your Note and off you go! Not only will this prevent you from running into any IMEI related issues, but your data speeds should noticeably increase on HSPA+
You still need to add APN to your device for its data to work though. Like Eric said earlier, it's very easy just to Google those. There are basically two APN's that will work:
"Phone" and "wap.cingular"
The Phone APN is the newer one and may run faster than wap.cingular, but I'm pretty sure AT&T has started throttling that once you reach a certain data threshold, so honestly it's just better to stick with wap.cingular
Also, you might want to disable Fast Dormancy for the best network results. This is a feature enabled by default on the Note which AT&T does not support, and it only serves to drain your battery and make your data connection erratic. You can disable it by going to *#*#9900#*#* from your dialer.
Let's see, what other quick tips can I think of to make the experience that much better... Oh, yes! Replace your homescreen launcher with something other than TouchWiz (because it sucks). I recommend ADW ex (because it is highly customizable and lightweight), or if you really want to be fancy, and are willing to dish out a couple bucks, use SPB Shell 3D. I like this one personally. Even though it isn't as customizable as other launchers, it uses native 3D acceleration to make the whole experience buttery smooth.
Also, get Google music, and on your PC, point the downloader to your iTunes directory. Let it do its thing, and low and behold, you have all your iTunes on your Note (and in the cloud!) just like that! Easy peasy!
Finally, don't be shy! Ask us questions! Community support and development is Android's greatest asset!

Jade, thanks for all that info!! The IMEI is device specific though, if going into a store and "lifting" would'nt it already be in their system as their demo? Also the switch from iphone dataplan to Smartphone data plan, will that increase the data by that much? Never heard of the "fast dormancy issue" but will definitely look into that.

GatesHD said:
So I bit the bullet and leaped onboard after it seems the AT&T Threat Data letters have ceased. I am going from my iphone 4 to the Note (Cant wait!). It will be here tomorrow.
Should I look for anything except my microsim to sim adaptor plug and play?
Has the imei problem been rearing its head or should I go without a hitch?
Have read here that you no longer need to do anything with APN's. True?
Just want to be prepared for everything that could happen tomorrow, to make it a seemless transition to this beauty.
Thanks in Advance and Happy Holidays to Everyone!
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In my 1 and a half ownership of the note, i never received the tablet threat text. Strange....
Maybe it's because I went from an AT&T s2 to my note.
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xAnimal5 said:
In my 1 and a half ownership of the note, i never received the tablet threat text. Strange....
Maybe it's because I went from an AT&T s2 to my note.
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I believe some IMEI's were transposed (accidentally) as tablets.
So, if you get a text about using a tablet, contact AT&T and explain its a smartphone.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 7.7 3G/4G Wifi Inernatinal Version

Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.

1) Of course they can do this. It is their network - they make the rules.
2) Domestic or international - all devices identify themselves the same way. They know it is a P6800. They have obviously updated their tables of what is a tablet...
3) See 1)
4) See 1)
I recommend get a provider that serves your area, but has less rules. T-mobile is great, but pretty poor coverage. At least they let you use any compatible device and don't force you to buy a data plan with prepaid service. ATT and Verizon are similar to each other, but at least ATT does not cripple features.

Just seems odd.....
It seems odd.... My daughter has been using the Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (It has AT&T 3G bands in my area) for 2 years on AT&T with the unlimitted non smartphone rate of $15 per month and has never received any message about getting a data plan for smartphones. That is why I asked the question. Isn't the vibrant the same as the captivate with the differecne in the bands that work...... This just seems a bit strange.......... ARGGGG... Maybe I should have just looked for the wi-fi only model. .. too late for me becuase the seller charges a 15% restocking fee... besides I did get a good deal on it.

You point out one of the advantages in GSM phones. There are a variety of carriers that support GSM, and allow devices not their own on their network. AT&T is good about that. It gives you some choice. As far as I know, Verizon only accepts devices sold by them.

Just wondering
I was just wondering. It still seems odd. Think i will just cancel the service when the term expires in a few months. The first snafu was when they merged my accounts .. the rep told me we woudld keep the $30 unlimitted plan on my wife's iphone but when i merged the accounts the option was gone and they refused to get it back..... anyway..i am just venting... That is the power of the consumer.. if you dont' like it take my money somewhere else. only pitfall is in my area AT&T has good serivce.

Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping

Here is the link $545..
jimmbomb said:
Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping
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Here is the link $545 you may be able to make a best offer on a few of the seller's other item. Don't know how they do it but it shipped to me really fast..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160709304834?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
also you can try this seller. My buddy at work got his from here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SAMSUNG...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item2ebb38feeb
That's all he had left. I don't see the one I got. but if you check the feedback you will see its legit.

The 7.0 Plus $Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Gal...plus+3g&_pcatid=839&_pcategid=58058&_from=R40

You list one from Australia and one from the UK. Did either you or your friend get hit with Customs charges? That can make a real difference in price.
The Hong Kong merchants seem to be very creative at avoiding Customs charges (they lie).

No customs
I got mine for Austriala.. .didn't have any customs fees. The one from hong kong had no customs fees. it was listed as a photo frame on the form. so there was no custom import fee..

alynch75 said:
Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.
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so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh

Wow My apologies
Justin^Tan said:
so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh
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I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.

nah, no need. since you already admit that it was wrong link you posted
I just had a glimpse of hope of getting tab 7.7 for quite cheap like you did, but I did need 3g, not wifi only ^^
I dont live in NYC so local store is out of question for me
They did release it in my country but its the 32gb version and pretty expensive I'd say (around $820)
Whilst i already have 32gb micro sd so I think 16gb version is enough

alynch75 said:
I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.
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I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim

I got lucky
jimmbomb said:
I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim
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I posted the link however as stated it was an incorrect link. I think I may have just got lucky and the seller sent me a 3G version or maybe the seller had the wrong decription either way... I am glad I got a deal. I don't know what else to tell you. You could possilby wait a few months and anticipate the price dropping due to all the new devices slated to hit the scene. As many of us know playing the waiting game for prices or next generation hardware is futile. I'd say..... buy the best you can get for the price you can pay and use the device the way you want. I find it is often pointless to wish for the stars knowing you don't want to part with your hard earned cash. So its either pay up or just play the waiting game. I don't mean to sound sarcastic but I have been getting private messages from people blasting me about the link I posted and how I need to hurry up and post the correct link. I posted the link that I used to get the device..... "Maybe the seller botched up and sent me the wrong item""" Good for me I guess ............ In any event I'd say stick with what you can afford and if not just don't buy anything .........

You can try this one.. very good
Yes its $645 but you do get it overnight from overseas to USA>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280803711139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

[tip] best way to get AT&T to give up a micro sim without asking too many questions

[tip] best way to get AT&T to give up a micro sim without asking too many questions
yeah, sorry to dedicate a whole post to this, its not such an important thing that it needs a thread of its own, but i think its something pretty important, and itll fall back to the later pages if others dont find it important enough to comment on, so i guess no worries.
if youre coming from pretty much any other phone youll have a normal SIM card. but if youre getting an SGSIII youll need a Micro SIM. now the tricky part is getting AT&T to give it up, without asking too many questions, and trying to get you to change plans (cause nobody wants to give up their $10/month unlimited data for a $30 limited, right?).
heres what worked for me
well speaking from experience, i tossed a few ideas around in my head, till i came up with one i decided to use, and without a hitch, AT&T gave up the microsim for my phone on a Media Net data plan.
1 first off, go into a store in person, dont order over the phone. AT&T call centers have a lot more pull over what goes on than an in store salesman.
AT&T authorized retailers have the least pull of all, since theyre only licensed to sell phones, they dont work for AT&T directly, and are least likely to care about corporate affairs. how can you tell the difference between a corporate store, and an authorized retailer? well authorized retailers normally dont have real display phones, but rather plastic models. however calling the AT&T store and asking them if theyre a corporate store or not will be the best and easiest way to save you a drive.
2 what i did, was explain to them that i bought a sim to micro sim adapter, so that i can more easily travel abroad, and use foreign simcards, because in japan, microsims are the new standard, and that for now i want to use get a micro sim, so i can keep my adapter inside the phone. i brought in a flip phone, and they checked the IMEI number, and gave me a brand new Micro Sim!!
its important to note theyre allowed to charge $30 dollars for a sim replacement, but if youre nice and friendly, theyll usually give it up for free, at least the times ive gone in they have.
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I guess I don't follow.... we're pre-ordered, we'll get a Micro SIM for the phone when it arrives, they're not going to let us walk out without one to use in the phone, right? Furthermore, I think you forgot a step 3, which is to activate it over the phone with Customer Care or in store once the SGSIII arrives

Or you could just have a sim cutter shipped to your door for 5 bucks and not have to go out of your way at all.

The OP's statements were in regards to the international version, not the variants like your preorder.

Man... Sim cutters online are like 3 dollars...
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SlimJ87D said:
Man... Sim cutters online are like 3 dollars...
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Man......Sim cards are free @ an AT&T store
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ronj1986 said:
Man......Sim cards are free @ an AT&T store
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I've walked in Att store saying I need one and they Just hand it over to me without any questions.
I've bought a sim cutter now though. As easy as anything.
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I just walked in and said I want a micro sim. She asked to see my phone. She said micro sim won't work in it. I said i have this adapter. She said ok, scanned new sim, and gave it to me. I popped it in and was good to go. Ready for my S3.

Where do u live? Lol I've done this 100 times. They don't charge ****. And u don't have to say all that bs u just say I NEED A MICRO SIM CARD. Lol done. No charge. U have to go to a corporate store that's it
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Yeah, you really don't have to jump through any hoops to get a microSIM card. Just go in and tell them you need one.

Thank you for this information. I plan to do just that to try and get a new micro sim card for my upcoming purchase of a Samsung Note 2. AT&T thinks I am using an old flip phone right now with unlimited data and I sure don't want them ot switch me over to a new plan.
Like some poeple said it may not be necessary to have a 'story' ready but thanks for providing a good one just in case.
soraxd said:
yeah, sorry to dedicate a whole post to this, its not such an important thing that it needs a thread of its own, but i think its something pretty important, and itll fall back to the later pages if others dont find it important enough to comment on, so i guess no worries.
if youre coming from pretty much any other phone youll have a normal SIM card. but if youre getting an SGSIII youll need a Micro SIM. now the tricky part is getting AT&T to give it up, without asking too many questions, and trying to get you to change plans (cause nobody wants to give up their $10/month unlimited data for a $30 limited, right?).
heres what worked for me
well speaking from experience, i tossed a few ideas around in my head, till i came up with one i decided to use, and without a hitch, AT&T gave up the microsim for my phone on a Media Net data plan.
1 first off, go into a store in person, dont order over the phone. AT&T call centers have a lot more pull over what goes on than an in store salesman.
AT&T authorized retailers have the least pull of all, since theyre only licensed to sell phones, they dont work for AT&T directly, and are least likely to care about corporate affairs. how can you tell the difference between a corporate store, and an authorized retailer? well authorized retailers normally dont have real display phones, but rather plastic models. however calling the AT&T store and asking them if theyre a corporate store or not will be the best and easiest way to save you a drive.
2 what i did, was explain to them that i bought a sim to micro sim adapter, so that i can more easily travel abroad, and use foreign simcards, because in japan, microsims are the new standard, and that for now i want to use get a micro sim, so i can keep my adapter inside the phone. i brought in a flip phone, and they checked the IMEI number, and gave me a brand new Micro Sim!!
its important to note theyre allowed to charge $30 dollars for a sim replacement, but if youre nice and friendly, theyll usually give it up for free, at least the times ive gone in they have.
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What to do with my Straight Talk AT&T microsims?

Hey, wasn't sure where to post this, but anyway....
I had a ST account with 2 AT&T sims on it. Before they AT&T dropped ST I kind of saw the writing on the wall with that 2GB limit, and since I tend to go over and the other person does too I just switched to T-Mobile.
I'm wondering if I can try and profit off this a little? Could I sell someone the rights to the account/sims? or better yet is there a way to remove the sims from the account, still have them work, and sell them stand alone?
NOTE: If you have a problem with my attempt to try and profit off still having two of these, I don't care, move along, thanks.

Are they used? If so, how old are they? I think straight talk sims "expire", so to speak, after being used... I think it's between 1-3 months...
Edit: OK upon further research, service cards expire a year from date of purchase but sims do not... Again, idk if it matters whether or not they were previously activated or not...
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They are used. One was last used about 3-6 months ago. The other we just stopped using this past weekend. The numbers associated with them were ported off.
They stay in the account ready to be activated again. I think I'd have to sell the "account" with the 2 sims, change the password, and let them activate them how they want.

How is this topic related to nexus 4?
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How is this topic related to nexus 4?
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Hey, wasn't sure where to post this, but anyway....
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Please, tell me where you would have posted it.
I would say it doesn't really fit anywhere on XDA to be honest. But, a lot of Nexus users have experience with ST. Thanks for the complaint withotut any good suggestions by the way.

gpgorbosjr said:
Hey, wasn't sure where to post this, but anyway....
I had a ST account with 2 AT&T sims on it. Before they AT&T dropped ST I kind of saw the writing on the wall with that 2GB limit, and since I tend to go over and the other person does too I just switched to T-Mobile.
I'm wondering if I can try and profit off this a little? Could I sell someone the rights to the account/sims? or better yet is there a way to remove the sims from the account, still have them work, and sell them stand alone?
NOTE: If you have a problem with my attempt to try and profit off still having two of these, I don't care, move along, thanks.
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One thing is for certain you can't sell the sims and activate them on another account and I think they can only be reactivated using the number associated with them when you first activated them. When I first used StraightTalk I didn't port my number over and used one they assigned to me, when I finally wanted to port my number over they said I had to use a new sim as you couldn't change the number on the existing sim card, it was permanently associated with the first number assigned to it or so it was explained to me. I think the sim can only be written to once after that its read only so any account info on it can't be changed.
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gpgorbosjr said:
Please, tell me where you would have posted it.
I would say it doesn't really fit anywhere on XDA to be honest. But, a lot of Nexus users have experience with ST. Thanks for the complaint withotut any good suggestions by the way.
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You can discus phone plans here no problem, there are plenty of them already and it has everything to do with the Nexus 4 as its carrier unlocked. And since it was a question it does belong in Q&A. You could have posted it in the other StraightTalk thread in the General Section but who really cares (except it seems one person).

kzoodroid said:
One thing is for certain you can't sell the sims and activate them on another account and I think they can only be reactivated using the number associated with them when you first activated them. When I first used StraightTalk I didn't port my number over and used one they assigned to me, when I finnaly wanted to port my number over they said I had to use a new sim as you couldn't change the number on the existing sim card, it was permanently associated with the first number assigned to it or so it was explained to me.
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You can discus phone plans here no problem, there are plenty of them already and it has everything to do with the Nexus 4 as its carrier unlocked. And since it was a question it does belong in Q&A. You could have posted it in the other StraightTalk thread in the General Section but who really cares (except it seems one person).
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Thanks for the response....
I think I'ma just abandon this idea. It's too complicated lol. I was trying to see if I could keep some ST AT&T sims in circulation and make a little coin on top, but with them activated already it doesn't make sense. Plus you can still get activation kits around $50 if you really want.

gpgorbosjr said:
Thanks for the response....
I think I'ma just abandon this idea. It's too complicated lol. I was trying to see if I could keep some ST AT&T sims in circulation and make a little coin on top, but with them activated already it doesn't make sense. Plus you can still get activation kits around $50 if you really want.
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Like you originally said you would have to sell the account and I don't think that is allowed in the TOS. They might let you transfer it to a family member but that would be the extent of it. IMO It would be a huge pain in the butt to try and sell it as who really wants to go through that huge a hassle to try and save a couple bucks at best. And you would also have to give any buyer the phone number associated with the sim card which is the one you ported. I've got all kinds of used sims from carriers laying around too I just put them in a box to grow dust.

Verizon Moto X Bootloader Not Unlockable (As Expected)

Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.

jawmail said:
Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Because people with unlimited-no-tethering-allowed data plans unlock, then root, then suck down a bazillion bytes of tethered data.
I'm one of them, so no judgment happening here.

Syn Ack said:
Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto

If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.

They mean SIM unlocked, as you can use the phone on other GSM providers.
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
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That sucks , I still have my unlimited data that's why I still stuck with Verizon

KnightWatchman said:
If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )

tacosrdelicioso said:
Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.

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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Sims are free. What's the big deal?

KnightWatchman said:
I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol

tacosrdelicioso said:
Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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That's exactly what I do. 3 Lines on my plan, 2 unlimited, 1 is for my mom. She's on the 2 gig plan so since i pay the bill,I take the upgrade. Gonna beat this horse till it rots.

Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.

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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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There's a thread in Q&A about root. Last post says user contacted jcase and answer is "won't work on new X, not at this time".

If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.

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If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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Also because it only worked on kernels with a release date of June or earlier on 4.4.2. I think June 6th to be more specific. It was patched very shortly after that.

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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..

Tigerstown said:
I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.

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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yea you don't see that. Lol..I'm hoping the get it unlocked cause 25 its well worth it to me. Well worth it

If the Moto X gets Root only I am willing to switch from my HTC One M8, an unlocked bootloader would be even better though.