Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Because people with unlimited-no-tethering-allowed data plans unlock, then root, then suck down a bazillion bytes of tethered data.
I'm one of them, so no judgment happening here.
Syn Ack said:
Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
They mean SIM unlocked, as you can use the phone on other GSM providers.
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
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That sucks , I still have my unlimited data that's why I still stuck with Verizon
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If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Sims are free. What's the big deal?
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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That's exactly what I do. 3 Lines on my plan, 2 unlimited, 1 is for my mom. She's on the 2 gig plan so since i pay the bill,I take the upgrade. Gonna beat this horse till it rots.
Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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There's a thread in Q&A about root. Last post says user contacted jcase and answer is "won't work on new X, not at this time".
If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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Also because it only worked on kernels with a release date of June or earlier on 4.4.2. I think June 6th to be more specific. It was patched very shortly after that.
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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yea you don't see that. Lol..I'm hoping the get it unlocked cause 25 its well worth it to me. Well worth it
If the Moto X gets Root only I am willing to switch from my HTC One M8, an unlocked bootloader would be even better though.
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Moto x sale, June 4-5 $100 off. Developer editions too!!!
http://www.motorola.com/us/home
Got mine already!!
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In top of that, I got me a Motorola Admiral off of eBay for $18 and i will be getting a $100 visa gift card from the Motorola tradeup program.
https://www.mototradeup.com/
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I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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That's SICK! I just bought Lumia 630 yesterday.
Maybe I should have bought Moto X.
Can't you refuse the package or return it and take advantage of this deal?
You still have time to get a Motorola Admiral from eBay. The moto trade up program is still going until the end of June, so you can buy and then send the admiral to Motorola.
Just make sure that you sign up at https://www.mototradeup.com/ before buying the x.
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I didn't get a skip with my developer edition... Was I supposed to?
Yep, it got added automatically. I added the headphones manually.
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Does that mean a X2 phone is coming? Or are they just clearing stock? it is probably the 64Gb...
damn. i was going to buy this week. timing can't be better... now i just need to know if Walnut with white front looks good or not! it doesn't Also when you select the wooden backs, price goes up back to $425
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[/COLOR]i already asked in another thread about frequencies... but i'm confused. I only have one option for buying on this site "no contract" means i will get which model exactly?
Also, does this mean i can get a phone for $239 if i use the .edu promotion?!
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just remembered why i don't have a motoX yet... i need the microSD slot...
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i already asked in another thread about frequencies... but i'm confused. I only have one option for buying on this site "no contract" means i will get which model exactly?
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You can buy a No Contract phone branded for ATT, Sprint, Verizon and Replubic Wireless. You select as you add it to your cart. The phone will support all frequencies for the carrier you pick. Or you could look at the Developer Editions.
The other option is the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" which is the same "insides" as the GSM Developer Edition. It supports the following bands...
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
LTE: 700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
If you have T-Mobile, the HSPA on AWS is important to get H/H+ in areas T-Mobile hasn't yet refarmed their 1900Mhz spectrum. No other X supports H/H+ on AWS that T-mobile uses.
The GSM Unlocked and Dev Edition will work with ATT's GSM/EDGE/GPRS/HSPA and LTE networks as it supports the necessary bands. There are two extra LTE bands the ATT branded X supports, however they were originally only used outside the USA. Reports are that ATT might start using one of them in the USA, but as of yet you wont notice it with the GSM Unlocked or GSM Dev Edition phones on ATT.
The Developer Edition for Verizon supports the all of the exact same bands as the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon.
If you are going "non-contract" check the prices. If the Moto Maker and the Developer Edition are the same price, consider the Dev Edition if you want root, as unlocking the bootloader on the Moto Maker and Retail versions voids the warranty, where was unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't. Only difference would be the appearance. You can't customize the look of the Dev Edition, it comes as black face, woven white back, silver accents (buttons and ring around camera). NOTE: Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes for the Retail/Moto maker versions of the X for Verizon and ATT. They do give it out for the Dev Edition for Verizon (again without voiding warranty. There has been a 3rd party Chinese website/middleman who has been up and down as of late. If you want to root and disable write protection on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 you need an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't like the look of the Dev Edition, consider a case which covers the back, or something like a DBRAND skin. (I have no affiliation with dbrand, just saw it suggested by others on the forum here, so its worth a shot). And I've seen replacement backs on ebay and around the web, however it could void the warranty.
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I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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Can you confirm which code you used? I tried AFFMTX and it didn't work.
No code, I just added then to my cart and when I checked my cart they were free, hope it works for you too.
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If you don't like the look of the Dev Edition, consider a case which covers the back, or something like a DBRAND skin. (I have no affiliation with dbrand, just saw it suggested by others on the forum here, so its worth a shot). And I've seen replacement backs on ebay and around the web, however it could void the warranty.
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Or, if you're comfortable taking the phone apart, you can buy pretty much any back cover color you'd like off of eBay. That's probably the route that I'll go, since I plan on adding Qi wireless charging anyway.
Also, anyone know why a VZW Motomaker Moto X shows up with a $100 discount in the cart but the VZW Dev Edition does not? I believe the Dev Edition is coming in at the proper $100 off price ($349); however, the inconsistency in displaying the discount is probably not in Moro's best interest.
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How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
damn that site to hell. every thing you do the damn price change. if i try to buy the gsm unlocked (like i will be covered by warranty on the dev edition anyway ha) it shows a different price for every operator.
unlocked with tmobile says "starting at $449.99" the only one not that price is $399.99 for the republic one.
but i can't click any option. think it will be the dev edition anyway... unless i can't combine the student discount (which, surprise, the site says is invalid for the dev... but may it just haven't synced... ) if i can't combine the .edu discount i will wait to see what they are offloading the phones for.
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How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
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You're doing it on the Motorola web site, right?
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damn that site to hell. every thing you do the damn price change. if i try to buy the gsm unlocked (like i will be covered by warranty on the dev edition anyway ha) it shows a different price for every operator.
unlocked with tmobile says "starting at $449.99" the only one not that price is $399.99 for the republic one.
but i can't click any option. think it will be the dev edition anyway... unless i can't combine the student discount (which, surprise, the site says is invalid for the dev... but may it just haven't synced... ) if i can't combine the .edu discount i will wait to see what they are offloading the phones for.
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The Republic Wireless version is always $50 cheaper than the others.
If you want the Developer Edition, start here -> http://www.motorola.com/us/Moto-X/ways-to-buy.html#MotoX-pdp8-story-ways-to-buy-dev
If you started here -> http://www.motorola.com/us/home and you're getting the GSM Unlocked, it is NOT the dev edition, and unlocking its bootloader will void the warranty, where as Unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition will not.
Keep in mind, that the final price, after discount should be $349.99 (Republic might be less). I've seen where Moto's site breaks out the $100 discount on some models, and others it just shows the lower price.
I do not know if the $100 off can be combined with any other offers or .EDU discount.
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How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
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You select the "other carriers" Moto X that you upgraded to. I did that (I'm a Verizon user) and got the $100 VISA card from Motorola.
See it now. Thanks
jidcman said:
Moto x sale, June 4-5 $100 off. Developer editions too!!!
http://www.motorola.com/us/home
Got mine already!!
In top of that, I got me a Motorola Admiral off of eBay for $18 and i will be getting a $100 visa gift card from the Motorola tradeup program.
https://www.mototradeup.com/
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how did you get the headphones too? Not working for me
Argh, and I just bought a Moto X off eBay last week!
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Argh, and I just bought a Moto X off eBay last week!
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sell the "ebay" one on swappa or ebay, and buy a NEW Dev Edition especially since you can unlock is bootloader and root.. plus the new one would have warranty.. where as the "ebay" one wont (warranty book says its non-transferable).
Not sure if this was common knowledge or not.
If you choose to not purchase the Moto Care at the time of purchase of your new Moto X (2nd Gen.), You can purchase at a later date and separate from the actual phone order.
I was not sure if this was possible or not, so I chatted with Moto Rep, and he told me it was not available for the Moto X (2nd Gen.) after the phone was purchased.
I logged into Moto Support (https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/my_devices/) and went to my Stuff, and the option to purchase ADP was right there; and yes I am on Verizon & I did order through Moto Maker (32gb, Black/blue/silver/engraved).
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On the previous Moto X, you were not able to purchase ADP for Verizon Moto Maker phones..
The Rep thanked me for this information and he'd pass it along to his supervisors to alert other reps that you can intact purchase it.
Does anyone else see this, or was this already known?
I thinks it's only available for the first 30 days after purchase. I to saw it was available for Verizon
I actually tried to do this by talking to 2 different reps. They both said it wasn't available for Verizon phones. Went through and ordered tonight. Thanks!
I'm on Verizon and ordered through Moto Maker but I'm not getting this option in "My Stuff." The accident protection page says "We're sorry. Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless." Check the links below for screenshots (Sorry I'm a newb in this forum <10 posts).
i.imgur.com/LymQcJJ.jpg
i.imgur.com/eez8J2B.jpg
I guess I'll try calling Moto tomorrow 'cause I'm not paying $8/mo. for Total Equipment Coverage from Verizon. NOPE!
Really considering buying this but I've never broken a phone before. On AT&T, what would it cost to get it replaced if it did break? Full price or subsidized?
I'm on Verizon and ordered through moto maker and the option for Moto care (ADP) was there for me. I purchased it.
I ordered my phone the exact night it launched though. I wonder if they've changed that option since then?
I tried this.... I got this.
We're sorry.
Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless.
So it doesn't look like they are selling it anymore.
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I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change
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I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change
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I was wondering the same thing.
VZW probably wants u to buy insurance from them.
I was bummed to see the "Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless" message too. But maybe it's because I got my PIN through Verizon to use on Moto Maker and didn't order from Motorola directly?
Are the ones who aren't getting the option for Moto care ADP paying full price? Or are you buying it subsidized?
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Are the ones who aren't getting the option for Moto care ADP paying full price? Or are you buying it subsidized?
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Subsidized.
I acted like I was buying another Moto x at full price and the option for Moto care didn't show up for Verizon. I did the same for AT&T and it shows up. So it does look like VZW put the kibosh on it
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I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change
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It either means that Motorola has to honor it or refund my $85.
So I've had the phone for three weeks now and got a "CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MOTO X!" email from them earlier this afternoon. Halfway down was a link to learn more about Moto Care Accident Protection and gave it a shot. I logged into my account and, to my surprise, it let me buy it for $85. It didn't give me this option two weeks ago when I posted about it in this thread. Recap: I'm on Verizon, designed on Moto Maker, and bought it at 2-year contract price. I'm putting a copy of the receipt in my safe 'cause if and when this baby sh!ts the bed, Moto best be caring for her!
I was able to buy the plan once I registered my vzw the other day.
Here's what I learned when I was trying to buy it for my Verizon phone (It IS possible, as long as it is within 30 days from your purchase date). There are 2 ways to purchase it, 1 of them doesn't work, and 1 of them does.
Method 1 (Doesn't work for Verizon):
Go through the options where you choose your phone, carrier, and how long since purchase from the drop down menus (as seen Here)
Method 2 (DOES work):
Register your phone on Motorola.com which will add your phone to My Stuff. On the main Motorola page click "Get Help". Then click Log In, and log in using your account. Next, click the My Stuff button at the top right. It will list your phone and the details and if it is within 30 days of your purchase date, then it will give you an option to "Purchase ADP". (As seen in OP).
Yeah I used method 2
Yesterday they emailed me my Certificate of Coverage so looks like I'm golden! :good:
Once you actually have your Verizon Moto X (2014) in hand, you can sign in to the motorola website and, if it isn't already there, you can add the device to your stuff. Then the option to add the coverage appears. I just purchased it for both myself and my wife (you have to do them individually by signing in as each user) and dropped our overpriced horrible insurance through Verizon at $8/month each.
The note edge just dropped one verizon i know and i have already went in and played with a live demo. Phone isnt bad but isnt spectacular over my note 4. My question is now with the developer edition edge can the developers take advantage of root/recovery to really make the panel come to life??
here is link showing it is coming soon. also depends on price for me if it is cheaper then $799 i may pick one up
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW
Might have to cancel my order at work for the regular note edge.
Or just buy it and sell if development takes off....
Argh decisions.
I think I'll buy one then just return it if Dev edition shows up quick enough.
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Please update if you see it go on sale. I subbed this thread.
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Please update if you see it go on sale. I subbed this thread.
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will do! i check daily!
So are we basically waiting on the developer version to find out how to root it?
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So are we basically waiting on the developer version to find out how to root it?
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No. The Dev Edition is meant for Developers and as such comes unlocked.
But having it wont provide clues as to how to gain root/bootloader access on a retail version.
Basically, if you want root/bootloader access, then you can either wait for the community to figure out how to crack it, else you can buy this version which is already unlocked.
Will dev ed be available to vzw users?
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Will dev ed be available to vzw users?
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Yes.
Damn! Now I have to wait!
It's getting closer guys!! They have a price listed now. Still "coming soon" but it looks like it's a matter of days.
Hopefully some amazing developers will jump on board.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW
The suspense is killing me. I check that link everyday
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Yes.
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next question will it be available at VZW or through VZW?
Samsung's website only
me too!
I have also been checking the link, 3 times daily. I bought the retail version of the note edge and fell absolutely in love with the phone, but at the same time i could never own a phone that i cannot root. almost took the galaxy S4 back before i stumbled upon safestrap and hyperdrive. unfortunately i learned the hard way what taking OTA updates can do to your device, so i can no longer go back to the S4 when you could use CWM. I don't understand what Verizon's deal is, all the other note edges (except Verizon and AT&T) have already got root using CF auto root in Odin, but Verizon must think we are going to steal a trade secret or something and locks the bootloaders.... silly Verizon. i swear if another carrier would pop up in my area offering the same 4g speeds and an unlimited data package i'd switch in a heartbeat.
oops, sorry i rambled... subscribed to this thread, and checking the site thrice daily (more often on the days i don't work ^_^)
It's never coming out ?
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the site updated again, the price was dropped. now instead of saying 799 it just says the price will vary depending on retailer... does this mean it will be available outside of the Samsung website?
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the site updated again, the price was dropped. now instead of saying 799 it just says the price will vary depending on retailer... does this mean it will be available outside of the Samsung website?
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Best buy has unlocked phones. Too much for my blood.
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I've seen those they aren't the developer edition though. Those are non carrier specific models you can use with any carrier by swapping the Sim card. The developer edition is just the normal Verizon phone but with unlocked bootloaders so you could flash cwm or twrp without bricking the device
NekoShinigami said:
I've seen those they aren't the developer edition though. Those are non carrier specific models you can use with any carrier by swapping the Sim card. The developer edition is just the normal Verizon phone but with unlocked bootloaders so you could flash cwm or twrp without bricking the device
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Yes i know. Verizon was listed at $799. Now the price is gone. Hopefully it doesn't get marked up and sold for a $1000 +.
How can I find out what LTE band Verizon runs on? Basically just want to see if this phone will work for Verizon users..
http://m.newegg.com/Product?ItemNumber=9SIA5802CJ5334&iscoz=true
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I'm not sure if this has already been posted or not. But I just had a small chat with a Google rep and it's confirmed that both phones (not the Verizon version's) will have unlocked bootloaders. I'll just put it here since the pixel 2 doesn't have it's own forum yet.
Also I'm not sure is any of you are curious about the fast charging. But Google isn't doing us dirty like Apple is doing their folks. The fast charge wall adapter will be included in the box with the phone. So we will not have to buy extra hardware to fast charge our phones.
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Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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stinger4321 said:
Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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I uploaded the original uncompressed screenshots. And she said that only the Verizon version's ain't have the unlocked bootloader.
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So for clarification Verizon's BL will be locked at some point. Maybe out of the gate?
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No, Verizon's BL will not be unlocked.
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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stinger4321 said:
Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
flex360 said:
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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lucky_strike33 said:
You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
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Both Verizon versions you will be unable to unlock the bootloaders... So bootloaders permanently locked with any Verizon version....
If its like last time there was a SKU for the unlocked Playstore version and a different SKU for the Verizon sim card version.
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MacTheRipperr said:
Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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What I said was actually more constructive and accurate than your OP. You were wrong and I corrected you. Plain and simple. And I don't know what you were trying to say.
The phone coming with an unlocked bootloader and having an unlockable bootloader are two different things. Don't get offended when someone corrects you, this is not grade school.
Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
con4n007 said:
Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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That didn't work on the Pixel 1 so no reason to think it will here. There is only one way to unlock the bl if you want. Buy the Google version.
Damn, So I ordered the Verizon versions, launch day.
If I'd have ordered the unlocked version, any issues with it working on Verizon?
Thinking about calling them and switching..
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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Interesting.. someone else shared a chat with google saying that you could not unlock the verzion version bootloader from the playstore...hmm.. well i guess there is a 10 day return policy.. we will find out once these phones begin shipping
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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The customer service representative was likely correct, but they only know what they are told.
99% of them have never even considered unlocking the bootloader, or even really know what that means.
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21 Oct 2017
Verizon model direct from Google cannot be bootloader unlocked.
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74271638&postcount=86
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That's an excellent question. I mean, does it make sense that they would sell the "Verizon" version with Verizon bloat on it and not have Verizon's deal with their encrypted bootloader? On the other hand, maybe Google wants as many people to but through them directly and if they do then the bonus is the unlockable bootloader. So many questions. To be honest, I would try to get it changed to the carrier free version with no Verizon ties. That's just my opinion.
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That is a very good question, but I do believe they are telling the truth. Google didn't sell the Verizon version last time around afaik, so this is new. I would think the only difference is the sim and programs installed. I'm not sure but certainly curious to know. I'm also not sure why they are doing this. Why would you buy a VZW model from Google in the first place? Why not go directly to Verizon? Maybe they are trying to be sure distribution isn't messed up like last time. If Verizon sells out you can get it from us, finance it through us, return it to us if it messes up.
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like is there restrictions if i buy from tmobile? someone help explain please
T-Mobile:
* SIM Locked to T-Mobile
* Cannot set "Allow OEM Unlock" until SIM unlocked
* Need a token from OnePlus to OEM unlock every time
* Single SIM slot
* T-Mobile boot screen
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
OEM Direct:
* SIM unlocked
* Can OEM unlock without a token
* Dual SIM slots
* OnePlus boot screen
* All updates come as OnePlus releases them, no approval from anyone else needed
dl200010 said:
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
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yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
Ovicron said:
yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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tengtengvn said:
For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
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Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
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T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Interesting. I was reading that there is only one IEMI number for both slots. I have not tried this because I do not need it.
tengtengvn said:
Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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T-Mobile is amazing in that aspect, but it also depends on the rep involved. I also think the account the phone was activated on might have a play in it too. Like an account just created probably would not get it, but an account that is 5+ or even 10+ years old would get it quick.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
OhioYJ said:
It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
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Have you seen anything from tmo, att or vzw that they won't register the same IMEI with different SIM cards on their networks? I did my own testing here:
tmo & vzw: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78225682&postcount=142
tmo and tmo: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78295400&postcount=184
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