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Verizon Moto X Bootloader Not Unlockable (As Expected)

Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.

jawmail said:
Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Because people with unlimited-no-tethering-allowed data plans unlock, then root, then suck down a bazillion bytes of tethered data.
I'm one of them, so no judgment happening here.

Syn Ack said:
Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto

If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.

They mean SIM unlocked, as you can use the phone on other GSM providers.
greatnesstx said:
Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
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That sucks , I still have my unlimited data that's why I still stuck with Verizon

KnightWatchman said:
If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )

tacosrdelicioso said:
Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.

KnightWatchman said:
I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Sims are free. What's the big deal?

KnightWatchman said:
I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol

tacosrdelicioso said:
Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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That's exactly what I do. 3 Lines on my plan, 2 unlimited, 1 is for my mom. She's on the 2 gig plan so since i pay the bill,I take the upgrade. Gonna beat this horse till it rots.

Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.

Crooke356 said:
Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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There's a thread in Q&A about root. Last post says user contacted jcase and answer is "won't work on new X, not at this time".

If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.

Berzerker7 said:
If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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Also because it only worked on kernels with a release date of June or earlier on 4.4.2. I think June 6th to be more specific. It was patched very shortly after that.

Crooke356 said:
Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..

Tigerstown said:
I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.

Crooke356 said:
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yea you don't see that. Lol..I'm hoping the get it unlocked cause 25 its well worth it to me. Well worth it

If the Moto X gets Root only I am willing to switch from my HTC One M8, an unlocked bootloader would be even better though.

Moto Care (ADP)

Not sure if this was common knowledge or not.
If you choose to not purchase the Moto Care at the time of purchase of your new Moto X (2nd Gen.), You can purchase at a later date and separate from the actual phone order.
I was not sure if this was possible or not, so I chatted with Moto Rep, and he told me it was not available for the Moto X (2nd Gen.) after the phone was purchased.
I logged into Moto Support (https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/my_devices/) and went to my Stuff, and the option to purchase ADP was right there; and yes I am on Verizon & I did order through Moto Maker (32gb, Black/blue/silver/engraved).
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On the previous Moto X, you were not able to purchase ADP for Verizon Moto Maker phones..
The Rep thanked me for this information and he'd pass it along to his supervisors to alert other reps that you can intact purchase it.
Does anyone else see this, or was this already known?

I thinks it's only available for the first 30 days after purchase. I to saw it was available for Verizon

I actually tried to do this by talking to 2 different reps. They both said it wasn't available for Verizon phones. Went through and ordered tonight. Thanks!

I'm on Verizon and ordered through Moto Maker but I'm not getting this option in "My Stuff." The accident protection page says "We're sorry. Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless." Check the links below for screenshots (Sorry I'm a newb in this forum <10 posts).
i.imgur.com/LymQcJJ.jpg
i.imgur.com/eez8J2B.jpg
I guess I'll try calling Moto tomorrow 'cause I'm not paying $8/mo. for Total Equipment Coverage from Verizon. NOPE!

Really considering buying this but I've never broken a phone before. On AT&T, what would it cost to get it replaced if it did break? Full price or subsidized?

I'm on Verizon and ordered through moto maker and the option for Moto care (ADP) was there for me. I purchased it.
I ordered my phone the exact night it launched though. I wonder if they've changed that option since then?

I tried this.... I got this.
We're sorry.
Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless.
So it doesn't look like they are selling it anymore.
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I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change

Pecan89 said:
I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change
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I was wondering the same thing.

VZW probably wants u to buy insurance from them.

I was bummed to see the "Extended service plans are not available for Verizon Wireless" message too. But maybe it's because I got my PIN through Verizon to use on Moto Maker and didn't order from Motorola directly?

Are the ones who aren't getting the option for Moto care ADP paying full price? Or are you buying it subsidized?

Mayze23 said:
Are the ones who aren't getting the option for Moto care ADP paying full price? Or are you buying it subsidized?
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Subsidized.

I acted like I was buying another Moto x at full price and the option for Moto care didn't show up for Verizon. I did the same for AT&T and it shows up. So it does look like VZW put the kibosh on it
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I wonder what this means for those of us who got the protection on VZW before they stopped offering it? I haven't recieved any emails stating a change
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It either means that Motorola has to honor it or refund my $85.

So I've had the phone for three weeks now and got a "CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MOTO X!" email from them earlier this afternoon. Halfway down was a link to learn more about Moto Care Accident Protection and gave it a shot. I logged into my account and, to my surprise, it let me buy it for $85. It didn't give me this option two weeks ago when I posted about it in this thread. Recap: I'm on Verizon, designed on Moto Maker, and bought it at 2-year contract price. I'm putting a copy of the receipt in my safe 'cause if and when this baby sh!ts the bed, Moto best be caring for her!

I was able to buy the plan once I registered my vzw the other day.

Here's what I learned when I was trying to buy it for my Verizon phone (It IS possible, as long as it is within 30 days from your purchase date). There are 2 ways to purchase it, 1 of them doesn't work, and 1 of them does.
Method 1 (Doesn't work for Verizon):
Go through the options where you choose your phone, carrier, and how long since purchase from the drop down menus (as seen Here)
Method 2 (DOES work):
Register your phone on Motorola.com which will add your phone to My Stuff. On the main Motorola page click "Get Help". Then click Log In, and log in using your account. Next, click the My Stuff button at the top right. It will list your phone and the details and if it is within 30 days of your purchase date, then it will give you an option to "Purchase ADP". (As seen in OP).

Yeah I used method 2

Yesterday they emailed me my Certificate of Coverage so looks like I'm golden! :good:

Once you actually have your Verizon Moto X (2014) in hand, you can sign in to the motorola website and, if it isn't already there, you can add the device to your stuff. Then the option to add the coverage appears. I just purchased it for both myself and my wife (you have to do them individually by signing in as each user) and dropped our overpriced horrible insurance through Verizon at $8/month each.

Attempting to get a nano sim from Sprint

So as we all know the Nexus 6 takes a nano sim. Most Sprint phones use micro sim with the exceptions of the M8 and the iPhone. Myself having an M7 currently I need a nano sim for my new nexus unless I want to cut my micro which I would rather not if I can just get one from Sprint.
So my journey begins...2 sprint stores didn't have any, 3rd Sprint store which was a repair center also had nano sims but didn't want to give me one due to "There are different models of nano sims depending on the phone you are using it in. Such as the nano for the HTC One M8 will not work in the iPhone 5 nano slot."
So at this point I drove a little further and went to the campus store inside the old Sprint/Nextel headquarters in Reston, VA. They still use these headquarters as a D.C. market Sprint Campus. I talked with a guy in the campus store and he said the same thing that the repair center did. However he had the repair guy go into the database to see if the Nexus 6 was listed with what model of nano sim it was comparable with so he could give me one. Alas the Nexus 6 is not in Sprints database yet so he stated that he didn't know which model nano sim would be compatible and if he just randomly gave me one it may not work. Then sent me away with the advice of come back after the phone is released and they will have had the system updated with the phone and he could see what nano model would work and get me one.
I'm not sure how accurate any of this if is but it forces me to wait until I get the phone and then go to the store to see if they have more info/the nano sim, hopefully I am not sitting with the phone for days waiting on Sprint.
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To get the correct SIM from Sprint just follow the instructions below
Open this link
http://sprintworldwide.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_launch
Then tell them you need the following SIM
Item# 760494000114
SKU: CZ2124LWC
you can do 3-5 day free shipping or pay for next day

Just chat with international help chat. Tell them you need a Sim for the iPhone 6 or 6 plus. They will send you one at no cost.

Dr. Burgle said:
So as we all know the Nexus 6 takes a nano sim. Most Sprint phones use micro sim with the exceptions of the M8 and the iPhone. Myself having an M7 currently I need a nano sim for my new nexus unless I want to cut my micro which I would rather not if I can just get one from Sprint.
So my journey begins...2 sprint stores didn't have any, 3rd Sprint store which was a repair center also had nano sims but didn't want to give me one due to "There are different models of nano sims depending on the phone you are using it in. Such as the nano for the HTC One M8 will not work in the iPhone 5 nano slot."
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I've never of heard that. I use the same nano SIM for my iPhone 6, both my Moto X's, and my Nexus 5 (with an adapter). I also used it in my iPhone 5s, so it's not a different model there either. The only way the M8 uses a different nano sim is if it's proprietary for the M8, which I highly doubt. The standard nano SIM works in all nano SIM phones. Just go back to the place that had them but gave you the runaround, and tell them you want the one for the iPhone. It will work just fine in the N6 because again, they are all the same.

Thanks to the both of you for the advice, I may try to go back to the store and ask for one again regardless of the run around they give me, worst case I will contact international chat. I thought the different nano sim models sounded wrong but wasn't 100% sure.

International chat sent me one overnight for free, they told me it was $12.95 for fast shipping, i told her that i wanted standard free one. The order was made on saturday and arrived on tuesday. Remember you need the 4ff sim, the one of m8 or moto x 1 gen.

2fastkuztoms said:
International chat sent me one overnight for free, they told me it was $12.95 for fast shipping, i told her that i wanted standard free one. The order was made on saturday and arrived on tuesday. Remember you need the 4ff sim, the one of m8 or moto x 1 gen.
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Perfect, I found out there are different ones but wasn't sure which one I needed, This narrows it down for me.
Thanks

The one i received has this part number: SIMGLW406R
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Here is the correct Sprint part number:?*760492013512?*
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ITEM DESCRIPTION:?* SIMCARD?* USIMLTEGSM4FF REMOV
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I check my email and the part number and description is the same from the quote.
Be advised that they would try to send you a sim for the phone on your account, tell them you bought a sprint moto x and you need the sim to activated it

2fastkuztoms said:
International chat sent me one overnight for free, they told me it was $12.95 for fast shipping, i told her that i wanted standard free one. The order was made on saturday and arrived on tuesday. Remember you need the 4ff sim, the one of m8 or moto x 1 gen.
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Perfect, I found out there are different ones but wasn't sure which one I needed, This narrows it down for me.
Thanks
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There is only one kind of nano sim, and yes, it is the 4ff one. 3ff is a micro sim, 2ff is a mini sim, and 1ff is the full sized one.

2fastkuztoms said:
The one i received has this part number: SIMGLW406R
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Here a quote from s4gru user the chemist:
Here is the correct Sprint part number:?*760492013512?*
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ITEM DESCRIPTION:?* SIMCARD?* USIMLTEGSM4FF REMOV
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I check my email and the part number and description is the same from the quote.
Be advised that they would try to send you a sim for the phone on your account, tell them you bought a sprint moto x and you need the sim to activated it
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This is the mail I just got from Sprint after complaining enough
"DrBurgle
We would hate to see you leave and would like you to use your phone through our network. The UICC SKU for the Nexus 6 will be CZ2124LWC. This is the same SKU used for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus. Just let the store know this is what you need.
Lindale
Sprint Social Care"

If thats the case, the one i have would not work. Time to look around.

so my htc m8 on verizon good to go? lol for some reason i got confused lol

RoscoeDpG said:
so my htc m8 on verizon good to go? lol for some reason i got confused lol
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I can't speak for Verizon as I have only been dealing with Sprint, I can say the SIM in the M* is the right size but that's all I know for sure with Verizon

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I can't speak for Verizon as I have only been dealing with Sprint, I can say the SIM in the M* is the right size but that's all I know for sure with Verizon
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hope to find out by 19th lol

RoscoeDpG said:
so my htc m8 on verizon good to go? lol for some reason i got confused lol
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If it's a nano sim then yes, it'll work.

i called today and spoke with a phone rep and was told the same thing re: the phone is not in their system yet, there are different sims and they dont have any in stock to send out.
the rep and telesales both said sprint corp stores will have plenty of sims for the nex 6 in the store once the phone is released.
i did not push further because its not that crucial for me to go through those hoops and would prefer to wait until the phone is released to make sure i get one thats designed for the nex 6.
thanks for starting this thread...

Here's an confirmation i got from international, its the same as Dr. Burble mentioned.
I use normal chat and telesales and none of them know the model.
I chat using the international chat and got the order of the sim and model in less than 5 minutes.
Se attached pic.
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2fastkuztoms said:
Here's an confirmation i got from international, its the same as Dr. Burble mentioned.
I use normal chat and telesales and none of them know the model.
I chat using the international chat and got the order of the sim and model in less than 5 minutes.
Se attached pic.
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Thanks for this, just did the same

RoscoeDpG said:
so my htc m8 on verizon good to go? lol for some reason i got confused lol
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Lol I actually used the nanoSIM from the HTC one M8 windows on VZW and put into the Nexus 6.

JMillion said:
Lol I actually used the nanoSIM from the HTC one M8 windows on VZW and put into the Nexus 6.
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I saw your sprint sim gave you problems, did you use the one that works with m8 also?

2fastkuztoms said:
I saw your sprint sim gave you problems, did you use the one that works with m8 also?
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Yeah I have one in the M8 HK edition. That one didnt work.

[Droid Turbo 2] BL-unlocked XT1585 is being sold on taobao.com, so there's a way?

I ordered a Droid Turbo 2 from Motorola yesterday. Before that I searched on taobao.com( I think you guys should have heard of it) and found BL-unlocked Turbo 2 being sold.
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I asked the seller about the bootloader thing and she told me that these phones were not unlocked by her. These phones came in with BL unlocked and she doesn't know how to unlock the bootloader.
So I assume that there's a way to unlock it and we just haven't find it, right?

We are ready to pay .. Of some one found the codes or method.. Last time we did the same in case of droid maxx by paying 45$ ..

If a method truly has been found that would be great, however there could be a not so great explanation as well:
1. Unlocked by a Motorola Employee using official software/hardware.
2. Fake Droid Turbo 2's. Someone mentioned that the price for these was pretty low, so its possible these are just knockoffs that are unlockable. I mean... You know.... China....
Still I hope its legit and the person is willing to sell the method, or perhaps reverse engineering the exploit would be possible even if unlikely.

I bet on #1 being the case.
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Do they have Verizon Wireless in China? It is an exclusive VZW phone. If they do not have Verizon there then maybe its where it is built? If no to both it might be a fake. China is starting to get scarily good at knockoffs lately.

Droid turbo 2 is factory unlocked .. So it can use anywhere .. I'm using here in India with local CDMA / GSM networks .. So ..

aneeshmbabu said:
Droid turbo 2 is factory unlocked .. So it can use anywhere .. I'm using here in India with local CDMA / GSM networks .. So ..
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We're talking about bootloader unlock, not SIM unlock...

So here's the deal. I'm willing to put up the cash to buy one cause the selling price is sort cheap. I'll pay via PayPal and so if it's scammy wammy timey wimey, I'll have buyer protection. My Chinese coworker can help me navigate the site tomorrow. Then after a billion years whatever it is will arrive here in NYC from China. Now, if, and that's a big If, if it's really a BLUL DT2, that will mean I have a second phone with an unlocked bootlader. I am the guy who googles for how to do basic stuff. Among my family I'm the tech guy, but were a family of artists. The last time I did any programming was basic on a PC in 1992, so, I have no means of transforming this hypothetical bootlader unlocked phone into an unlock/root method for the community. But I am willing to send the phone to someone less hopeless in this area then myself. Present thyself hero....
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OK Google was giving me bad price translation. This is about $700.00 USD so legit price range, but realizing this its too much for me to risk the cash. I was thinking this was about $38 dollars US. Google converted for Japanese vs Chinese yen from USD and I didn't catch that first pass.

thrax12 said:
So here's the deal. I'm willing to put up the cash to buy one cause the selling price is sort cheap. I'll pay via PayPal and so if it's scammy wammy timey wimey, I'll have buyer protection. My Chinese coworker can help me navigate the site tomorrow. Then after a billion years whatever it is will arrive here in NYC from China. Now, if, and that's a big If, if it's really a BLUL DT2, that will mean I have a second phone with an unlocked bootlader. I am the guy who googles for how to do basic stuff. Among my family I'm the tech guy, but were a family of artists. The last time I did any programming was basic on a PC in 1992, so, I have no means of transforming this hypothetical bootlader unlocked phone into an unlock/root method for the community. But I am willing to send the phone to someone less hopeless in this area then myself. Present thyself hero....
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OK Google was giving me bad price translation. This is about $700.00 USD so legit price range, but realizing this its too much for me to risk the cash. I was thinking this was about $38 dollars US. Google converted for Japanese vs Chinese yen from USD and I didn't catch that first pass.
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There is one option for $478, 32gb-unlocked but doesn't say if it's New, the other options are in like new condition.

Seems fishy.
Price is to low. And the pic they show is of a device made with moto maker. Im guessing knock off. The screen on that phone looks lower res. Could be the pic but it dont look right to me.

my guess is that these were internal development/test models. There are usually a few that leak out here and there from Motorola with every new phone release.

We can hope some one I'll unlock the bl

CONFIRMED unlocked bootloader on pixel 2 and 2xl

I'm not sure if this has already been posted or not. But I just had a small chat with a Google rep and it's confirmed that both phones (not the Verizon version's) will have unlocked bootloaders. I'll just put it here since the pixel 2 doesn't have it's own forum yet.
Also I'm not sure is any of you are curious about the fast charging. But Google isn't doing us dirty like Apple is doing their folks. The fast charge wall adapter will be included in the box with the phone. So we will not have to buy extra hardware to fast charge our phones.
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Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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stinger4321 said:
Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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I uploaded the original uncompressed screenshots. And she said that only the Verizon version's ain't have the unlocked bootloader.
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So for clarification Verizon's BL will be locked at some point. Maybe out of the gate?
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No, Verizon's BL will not be unlocked.
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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stinger4321 said:
Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?

Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked

flex360 said:
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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lucky_strike33 said:
You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
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Both Verizon versions you will be unable to unlock the bootloaders... So bootloaders permanently locked with any Verizon version....
If its like last time there was a SKU for the unlocked Playstore version and a different SKU for the Verizon sim card version.
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MacTheRipperr said:
Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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What I said was actually more constructive and accurate than your OP. You were wrong and I corrected you. Plain and simple. And I don't know what you were trying to say.
The phone coming with an unlocked bootloader and having an unlockable bootloader are two different things. Don't get offended when someone corrects you, this is not grade school.

Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.

con4n007 said:
Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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That didn't work on the Pixel 1 so no reason to think it will here. There is only one way to unlock the bl if you want. Buy the Google version.

Damn, So I ordered the Verizon versions, launch day.
If I'd have ordered the unlocked version, any issues with it working on Verizon?
Thinking about calling them and switching..

I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.

-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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Interesting.. someone else shared a chat with google saying that you could not unlock the verzion version bootloader from the playstore...hmm.. well i guess there is a 10 day return policy.. we will find out once these phones begin shipping
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-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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The customer service representative was likely correct, but they only know what they are told.
99% of them have never even considered unlocking the bootloader, or even really know what that means.
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Edit:
21 Oct 2017
Verizon model direct from Google cannot be bootloader unlocked.
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74271638&postcount=86

-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That's an excellent question. I mean, does it make sense that they would sell the "Verizon" version with Verizon bloat on it and not have Verizon's deal with their encrypted bootloader? On the other hand, maybe Google wants as many people to but through them directly and if they do then the bonus is the unlockable bootloader. So many questions. To be honest, I would try to get it changed to the carrier free version with no Verizon ties. That's just my opinion.
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-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That is a very good question, but I do believe they are telling the truth. Google didn't sell the Verizon version last time around afaik, so this is new. I would think the only difference is the sim and programs installed. I'm not sure but certainly curious to know. I'm also not sure why they are doing this. Why would you buy a VZW model from Google in the first place? Why not go directly to Verizon? Maybe they are trying to be sure distribution isn't messed up like last time. If Verizon sells out you can get it from us, finance it through us, return it to us if it messes up.
edit: Ninja'd by 2 minutes.