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Im really getting depressed over the quality of the evo 4g 720p video especially compared to iphone 4, droid x, and new galaxy s (epic 4g) the fps of the evo just totally annoying me now every time i look at other 720p videos, is there anyway to tweak or improve this by software ? like come on seriously 20fps -_- that totally sucks
skiz220 said:
Im really getting depressed over the quality of the evo 4g 720p video especially compared to iphone 4, droid x, and new galaxy s (epic 4g) the fps of the evo just totally annoying me now every time i look at other 720p videos, is there anyway to tweak or improve this by software ? like come on seriously 20fps -_- that totally sucks
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The hardware for it is actually quite good, and yes it can definitely be fixed with software, but it's up to HTC.
Plancy said:
The hardware for it is actually quite good, and yes it can definitely be fixed with software, but it's up to HTC.
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Actually we can do it once we get full kernel source. It'll probably take an AOSP ROM since we can't modify the HTC cam app, but we did it for the Nexus. Combine a custom kernel with a custom cam app and we're golden
What's really sad is that the Evo has the 8mp version of the camera in the iPhone. Seriously same manufacturer and everything.
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It's true it looks quite terrible, but let's make one thing absolutely clear.
24/25 FPS is FINE for videos. That's what movies are shot in.
The problem is purely bitrate. Which we will eventually increase.
This is what I desperately want fixed. I was happy with the quality until I saw what the iPhone was producing. Man does that piss me off. HTC's software is really crippling this device.
I'm not one to replace standard software on my phones and PCs, but dammit, it looks like I'll have to in this case.
Keep up the great work, guys.
my brothers evo's vid quality sucks as well, i duno wut u can do to it to make it better...
I think my 720p video looks great, not sure what you guys are complaining about.
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The video quality is not that bad to me but it's the audio on the video that's choppy. I haven't been able to find very many posts on this...is this just an issue with my phone?
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqoqspzu8XE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU6bmAQMAq4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6948969&postcount=13
His updated video (note the significant audio difference as well):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zruAaXHkiF4&annotation_id=annotation_114688&feature=iv
Raw footage:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1742891/iPhone 4 vs EVO x2.mov (warning: 221 MB + content borders on intolerable if you're an adult with no kids)
-Can we get HTC to address this?
topdnbass said:
It's true it looks quite terrible, but let's make one thing absolutely clear.
24/25 FPS is FINE for videos. That's what movies are shot in.
The problem is purely bitrate. Which we will eventually increase.
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That's not accurate. The 720P videos are actually recorded at 6 Megabits/sec. That's plenty of bitrate to handle HD videos. The problem is the codecs being used. The EVO is using generic MPEG4 video instead of H.264, and the audio codec is 8kHz AMR Narrowband instead of AAC. That's the main reason they look bad. Compare HD videos from the EVO against the 720P videos from the iPhone and that's the main difference.
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That's not accurate. The 720P videos are actually recorded at 6 Megabits/sec. That's plenty of bitrate to handle HD videos. The problem is the codecs being used. The EVO is using generic MPEG4 video instead of H.264, and the audio codec is 8kHz AMR Narrowband instead of AAC. That's the main reason they look bad. Compare HD videos from the EVO against the 720P videos from the iPhone and that's the main difference.
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i'm still learning about all this, but these differences seem more software-related rather than a hardware limitation, correct? given enough time and the source code, the devs would probably be able to fix this or htc updates the software (highly unlikely, but hell, i'm keeping hopeful). is it safe to assume a scenario like this?
So any ETA on resolution?
Video looks & sounds second-rate compared to the iPhone4.
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Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqoqspzu8XE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU6bmAQMAq4
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Ok. After watching that the evo's video camera software has to be fixed.... and I do mean 'fixed'. The specs on the evo are too good to not be working as good as those 2 videos.
skiz220 said:
Im really getting depressed over the quality of the evo 4g 720p video especially compared to iphone 4, droid x, and new galaxy s (epic 4g) the fps of the evo just totally annoying me now every time i look at other 720p videos, is there anyway to tweak or improve this by software ? like come on seriously 20fps -_- that totally sucks
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Returning it for one of those devices appears to be in your future.
No, it's pretty bad. It's OK for indoors with decent lighting but if you're outdoors...the video quality is just terrible. The camera itself is just as bad or worse.
If we DO get a fix on this thing, does this mean I need to root my phone?
Yeah the Sound quality is piss poor compared to the iPhone 4 and the Droid X... I hope HTC or the devs can fix this.
My god, that source video of the Evo and the iPhone 4 really open my eyes to how badly HTC's ****ed up. The video from the Evo looks like it was recorded from a Razr, and the audio is about ten times worse than any smartphone I've ever heard. I really hope the developers can match the Evo's audio and video quality to that of the iPhone when the source is released.
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Returning it for one of those devices appears to be in your future.
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Not at all , I left verizon to get this phone the sprint network is not as great but their plans are a gift compared to other companies , over all im enjoying my evo plus this is my first smart phone so its a big jump for me,but I said depressed because I know this phone could be way better and be on par with these other phones such as the iphone but unfortunately htc crippled the evo :/
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Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
they did say its coming, didnt say in which particular update. They did say that in this one that just came out will come hsupa and they delivered. So just wait, patience.
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Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...
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Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Motorola Milestone was advertised with flash. People complained, and eventually Froyo was released.
Moto support forums is the best place to bring this to their attention...
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What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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We should be getting both.
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I had 1080 working with LG camera, i believe the chip supports 30 fps 720, 23 fps 1080. When it records in it, it looks like 1080, but its choppy. If it wasnt id be using LG camera for everything, but the sound cuts out sometimes. Its good for a nature scene, slow moving, lots of detail, little distortion. 720 for fast action, nice colors and sound
TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.
CaelanT said:
What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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Yup. Moto rep said we'll get 1080p playback but not recording.
creativedevil said:
We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...
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I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL
KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.
chromedome00 said:
Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.
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It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.
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If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
I did see a screen capture in one of those early articles, my guess is that it was later changed, and is no longer in the plans.
unsl said:
TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.
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I've been playing around with LGcamera app myself for a bit.
I find the stock 720p looks better than the 1080p on whatever setting you use with LG. What settings did you find look the best with 720p?
I think I've only took one video that looked decent, everything else looks kind of average. Very grainy. Idk, maybe I'm expecting too much from a phone. lol
You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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KingKuba13 said:
It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.
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4mths? Phones been out for a little over 2.
BravoMotorola said:
I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL
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They give the developement community way too much credit and I'm not trying to take anything away from those guys. It's just ridiculous to expect these guys to crack the bootloader. I guarantee you they wont this is way beyond their ability and no measly $3000 bounty is going to change that.
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phobos512 said:
You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
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chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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It's a little more complex than that. It was originally stated we would get 1080P capture and the Motorola Page used to say this in the official specs.
The image in the screen in this story is what the specs page used to look like before Moto switched it all up: (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/)
Long, short- Motorola promised it and reneged in a low key way.
EDIT: Now that I think more about it, search this forum and you will probably find the post of the user who first noticed that the specs page changed.
i have tried 60fps video while im driving
what do you think 60fps video i think 1080p much better whts the advantage of 60fps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8shZlOqMkaY
What were you going to say? I hardly think creating a whole new thread and just posting vids contributes to any discussion >.<
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What were you going to say? I hardly think creating a whole new thread and just posting vids contributes to any discussion >.<
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No wiev of others and sample HTC One is very good at taking video but 60fps is not as good as 1080p video
cihanleanne said:
No wiev of others and sample HTC One is very good at taking video but 60fps is not as good as 1080p video
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The point of the 60 FPS is to do a slow motion, once you took the video, you can edit it to get some parts (well actually one part) to go slower.. then you can for example, while filming a freind jumping with a skate board, slow down only the part when he actually is in the air.. you can choose what speed to reduce it to as well.
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The point of the 60 FPS is to do a slow motion, once you took the video, you can edit it to get some parts (well actually one part) to go slower.. then you can for example, while filming a freind jumping with a skate board, slow down only the part when he actually is in the air.. you can choose what speed to reduce it to as well.
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Recording videos while driving a car. Great job. Moron.
took a 60 fps of a local race.
i think it makes a more smooth video ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXHG5wWLJM
YouTube isn't 60fps so video is pointless
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No it is not, you have slow motion option and HD fast (60fps), they are different things, with 60fps you will have a smother video.
Smoother like if you are playing a game at 20fps(for example) in a computer and then change the configuration or the hardware and it give you 30~40fps, you will be able to play it much better.
60 fps is 720p, 30 fps is 1080p. (i'm guessing 60fps means lower compression rate / less space taken?)
bloodrain954 said:
Recording videos while driving a car. Great job. Moron.
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Some people have car mounts....
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bloodrain954 said:
Recording videos while driving a car. Great job. Moron.
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I'm not trying so start anything or anything here, but some of us can actually do that and still maintain a car on the road. ^^;
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let me bring a little clarity!!!
The reason the 60 frames per second looks so smooth is because our eyes see at about 60 frames per second that is the point in having 60 frames per second . this is why in the gaming industry for many many years we have tried to get 60 frames per second that is also coincidentally the same refresh rate of your monitor (likely) to go a little further you'll notice that 3d TVs are typically 120 Hertz so 60 ÷60 is 120 3d is 2 images. Tada sooo, For me i love the 60 fps because theres no loss in frames when I watch it with my eyes... Your dog will see it skip but not you! Dogs see at like 75 or 80 fps dont quote me on that ,but its a lil faster than we do.. Wikipedia can explain all that if you wanna know more.... So both arguments are kind of right. Yes the images will look better in slow mo and yes the images will look smooth but you would actually one more like 120 for slow mo or 240 the more frames you get the better it looks in slow mo..
I bought myself a Note 3(N9005, 32GB version) few days ago, but since the beginning I have had a problem with recording 4K videos. To be exact, it doesn't record at the promised 45-50 mbps bitrate, instead it records at 10 mbps or even lesser bitrate. So my question would be, how can I fix that?
All the other featured modes are working flawlessly. Would really appreciate some help. The phone is not rooted or customized in any way.
Thanks in advance!
Trash Wolf said:
I bought myself a Note 3(N9005, 32GB version) few days ago, but since the beginning I have had a problem with recording 4K videos. To be exact, it doesn't record at the promised 45-50 mbps bitrate, instead it records at 10 mbps or even lesser bitrate. So my question would be, how can I fix that?
All the other featured modes are working flawlessly. Would really appreciate some help. The phone is not rooted or customized in any way.
Thanks in advance!
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Did you set it up for 4k in settings
Yes, under the video resolution section I chose 3840x2160. Is there supposed to be some more options to improve the quality?
jaythenut said:
Did you set it up for 4k in settings
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this is the sample of video i made in 4K resolution.
http://youtu.be/GBTojAQF4Cw
I have same problem.
Trash Wolf said:
Yes, under the video resolution section I chose 3840x2160. Is there supposed to be some more options to improve the quality?
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Do you have a 4k TV if not you won't see any difference between 4k then 1080p
^ um WRONG. And that has nothing to do with this topic
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I don't have that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jwzODnW-8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Downscaled 4K looks much better though, so there is a huge benefit in making 4K videos. Anyway it seems like those crappy units of Note 3-s made their way only to Estonia, since me and shizny are both from Estonia and there is no more information about that problem on the internet, atleast I couldn't find absolutely nothing on such weirdness.
Actually jaythenut is correct. Though the Note 3 is capable of recording video for playback on a 4K TV your device having only a 1080p display is not going to appear different at all.
The Note 3 plays back recorded 4K Video in 1080p on both the phone and any other playable media device as it can't process anything higher than that.
Your better off recording videos in 1080p at the now 60f/s.
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rdbloch said:
Actually jaythenut is correct. Though the Note 3 is capable of recording video for playback on a 4K TV your device having only a 1080p display is not going to appear different at all.
The Note 3 plays back recorded 4K Video in 1080p on both the phone and any other playable media device as it can't process anything higher than that.
Your better off recording videos in 1080p at the now 60f/s.
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no one is right.
quality of recorded videos playback is not the same as seen on youtube, by other peeps recordings.
check the quality, bitrate of 4K recorded video on my device is 6000kbps, 1080p is 15000kbps.
If you think a little logically then how come 4K recorded video is worse than 1080p? Even the playback quality is worse, not only on the device itself, but also on monitor.
Have you ever watched 1080p video on 720 display? Any difference? Video is crispy and detailed, Now how about 520p video on 1080p screen?
Now this is the same as my 4K recording on 1080p screen.
Either the device is faulty and cannot record/play 4K videos or sample videos made on youtube are actually 1080p.
This is really strange. I'm from Estonia as well and I'm facing the exact same problems. All my 4K videos look like 240p ones or even worse.
(Can't post the full YT links because of my postcount, but here's the v-codes)
watch?v=4iEt7lGGPqk- 4K sample
watch?v=4fryaJ6cfw4 - 1080p sample for comparison
I can't find anything on the internet regarding this subject, does anyone have any idea what the hell is going on? I sent an email to Samsung support about this as well.
the same problem here (lithuania), firmware N9005XXUBMJ1
Wait for while there will b some patches to fix it.all devices havr same problem
Same here. 4K recording quality (and, of course, bitrate) is awful. Videos looks like 240p.
Lithuania, baseband N9005XXUBMJ1.
EDIT: Ok, it seems that this is common issue with particular batch of this model (maybe it only affects the Baltic countries), and service centers are aware of this problem.
Left my phone for warranty repairs...
Fatmann said:
Same here. 4K recording quality (and, of course, bitrate) is awful. Videos looks like 240p.
Lithuania, baseband N9005XXUBMJ1.
EDIT: Ok, it seems that this is common issue with particular batch of this model (maybe it only affects the Baltic countries), and service centers are aware of this problem.
Left my phone for warranty repairs...
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so it looks like well have to wait for a fix for this to work properly is that correct
Maybe this helps, but you need to be rooted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioD9DcKXNck&feature=youtube_gdata_player
tkwish said:
so it looks like well have to wait for a fix for this to work properly is that correct
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Looks like it.
I've opted for warranty service.
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Looks like it.
I've opted for warranty service.
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Let me know if they fix it.
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Let me know if they fix it.
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Yes, they did. 4K video quality is normal now.
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Yes, they did. 4K video quality is normal now.
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Did the service center tell you what was the problem?
Why is this not available on the newest version of nexus line?
If you pick a other app, is then possible to record 1080p 60fps?
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Technically speaking the Snapdragon is capable of processing 1080 @ 120 FPS, however there may be either a hardware limit on the sub-processor of camera (haven't even looked if there was one). As far as I can see from the kernel source posted on AOSP there is a high media profile for [email protected] fps and [email protected], Theoretically you might be able to just create another entry in the profile to enable it.
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I'm very very interested to this discussion! The last nexus 6 was 100% capable of recording fullhd videos @60fps but Google disable that function and nobody know why, I was absolutely sure that in this nexus 6p that record mode would be present! There are no reason why it should be disabled, who cares if I can record a bird at 240fps (in slow motion), how many times somebody use this functions? One in a month?
How many instead make some (normal) videos? Maybe two/three times a week or even more and recording @ 60fps instead of 30fps is like day and night! Damn Google.
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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Because 60fps looks a lot better - obviously.
I don't know how you, or anybody can even come close to thinking the 30 frames per second is OK when you have the option of 120 and 240.
Have you never seen a YT video with 60fps!? Yeah... You're blind if you can't see the difference. It makes no sense for Google to have those very high frame rate options but still not have 60 frames per second at 1080p.
Also, no, you are wrong about people slowing down 60 frames per second video. You would slow down 120 or 240, yes, but nobody in their right mind would use 60 frames per second down to 30 in today's world. You would just use the 60 frames per second video because it looks a lot smoother.
You sound very ignorant in your post. Nearly all of what you said is bull****.
nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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I don't know about your source, but the human eyes are seeing the world at arround 2000fps.
PS: you can clearly see the difference between 30vs60 and you can see a little difference at 120fps
I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...
marcoruzza said:
I'm very very interested to this discussion! The last nexus 6 was 100% capable of recording fullhd videos @60fps but Google disable that function and nobody know why, I was absolutely sure that in this nexus 6p that record mode would be present! There are no reason why it should be disabled, who cares if I can record a bird at 240fps (in slow motion), how many times somebody use this functions? One in a month?
How many instead make some (normal) videos? Maybe two/three times a week or even more and recording @ 60fps instead of 30fps is like day and night! Damn Google.
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nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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iRub1Out said:
Because 60fps looks a lot better - obviously.
I don't know how you, or anybody can even come close to thinking the 30 frames per second is OK when you have the option of 120 and 240.
Have you never seen a YT video with 60fps!? Yeah... You're blind if you can't see the difference. It makes no sense for Google to have those very high frame rate options but still not have 60 frames per second at 1080p.
Also, no, you are wrong about people slowing down 60 frames per second video. You would slow down 120 or 240, yes, but nobody in their right mind would use 60 frames per second down to 30 in today's world. You would just use the 60 frames per second video because it looks a lot smoother.
You sound very ignorant in your post. Nearly all of what you said is bull****.
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warplane95 said:
I don't know about your source, but the human eyes are seeing the world at arround 2000fps.
PS: you can clearly see the difference between 30vs60 and you can see a little difference at 120fps
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iRub1Out said:
I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...
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I can definitely say that I can see it. Between 30fps and 60fps. Soooo much smoother and crisp. If you look a sample on youtube. You only want 60 fps.
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The human eye does not "view" at around 2000fps, it doesn't actually see in any fps while viewing the natural world. The human eye sees things live, as in ~fps. Those of us with good eyesight can definitely see the screen refresh on lower rates like 60fps. My TV is 1080p hd @ 50hz (which is not fps) & its gotten so painful to watch it, that I am considering a new TV. When you watch a 60fps video on a 50hz TV, the refresh rate & the frames of the video don't coincide & make the experience jumpy. 30fps looks better because the fps is slower than the refresh rate.
On our 2k phone screens however 30fps looks jumpy because the resolution is higher & our eyes are trying to view it in the same manner as we view the natural world.
iRub1Out said:
I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...
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I actually studied photography and film extensively in college as it was my major. It is true that 30fps is standard and 60fps would look awkward. There are some human eyes that notice changes up to 200fps but those are basically jet pilots, the exception not the rule. No human eye would be able to notice 2,000 fps. That is not possible. Lastly, set your camera to 240 fps and see how everything gets darker. That isn't a lie. It is a fact that high frame rates will result in darker, noiser videos because they require more light.
60 fps is not a good speed to shoot at. Especially in a sensor without IS. You will get more jitter in your video. I produce video for a living, as In it is my job and I do it daily. You dont EVER record in 60 fps unless you are capturing very fast action or are intending to slow it down. And when you record in 60 FPS, you always export it at 30 fps or 25 fps from Premier pro of Final cut, whatever you use.
All I know is that on my Note 4, I only record at 60fps 1080p and wow does it ever look better then anything I've ever recorded in 30fps.
Delete.
Photography and videography are not the same.
60fps is better than 30fps for any and all reason regardless of whatever you think you know - nobody agrees with you if they've seen 60fps video. It's day and night, and if you read anything from YT users, gamers, normal humans, they all say 60fps is better - in any scenario.
Back on point, however, still mind blown that this wasn't included with the camera.
I use Premier Pro and After Effects, and 60fps is my only export option - I wouldn't even consider lower unless it was SHOT lower, but never is. Look at my YT page. Nothing under 60fps once I had my hands on a camera capable of 60fps. I practice what I preach.
I would NEVER shoot 60 fps video with an intention to slow it down, that's stupid - that's what 120/240fps are for - those are to be slowed down.
60 fps is for normal viewing speed - anything higher is OK to slow down, but 60 down to 30 - no thanks. That's just a waste of good 60fps footage.
Any one tried snap camera on N6P yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2055140
nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not , but I can tell you 100% that a human eye can see beyond whatever you have stated. I game on a 144hz monitor , and yes I could tell and feel the difference between 30/60/144.
Back on topic , I found it very weird already when the Galaxy s6/note 5 with the fast processor not being able to record in 240fps . Also , I've noticed slow motion inconsistencies regarding the 6p's 240fps , some youtube videos look buttery smooth , some looks like some slideshow. No idea what's causing this , any thoughts?
nonnasmyladie said:
I actually studied photography and film extensively in college as it was my major. It is true that 30fps is standard and 60fps would look awkward. There are some human eyes that notice changes up to 200fps but those are basically jet pilots, the exception not the rule. No human eye would be able to notice 2,000 fps. That is not possible. Lastly, set your camera to 240 fps and see how everything gets darker. That isn't a lie. It is a fact that high frame rates will result in darker, noiser videos because they require more light.
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Don't assume what others would find awkward. Guessing a lot like it since Google allows those to see it on Youtube. Even besides that, you say you can't see it or its "awkward". Okay. Me and plenty of others like it and can see the difference. Videos are not dark looking when I record ALL my videos with my iPhone.
Sad to see Google didn't include this with this latest Nexus device.
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