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Video recording on the Nexus and Bitrate vs 3GS

I have an iphone 3gs and the nexus one. Ive recorded video on both and when I transferred the video to my PC, I noticed the bitrate is on the low side compared to the iphone 3gs.
The 3gs gets 7,000+kbps while the Nexus one gets 2,000+kbps.
Knowing this, is there a way to get that bitrate to be higher? Closer to that of the 3gs? Is it due to the app or the camera on the nexus one? As good as this phone is, isnt it suppose to be better at recording video than the iphone 3gs or at the very least on par? What can I do to get the bitrate up? Its bad enough the FPS is around 17-20 compared to 30fps for the iphone 3gs but bitrate being so important to me, what can I do? I really like android OS but cant keep the phone if its video recording is going to be a couple notches lower than the 3gs. What do I do here?

That's really stupid I expected this phone to have a more capable camera. The comparison YouTube video I watched made the iPhones video recording look brighter and more vibrant with equal clarity but I thought the nexus had better specs in video recording. I know the iPhone has 3.2 MP to nexus's 5mp but I thought recording was supposed to be better on nexus.
Can anyone explain? I've read the respective specs but my eyes don't lie. And are software modifications/updates capable of increasing the quality of photos and recordings? Thanks
Also, why did I stop having a cursor when typing in xda? I had one when I got the phone...I didn't want to start a whole new thread to ask that...

I assume it may be the compression where 3gs = mov and nexus one = 3gp. However it is possible that this may be more of a hardware limitation than something as simple as compression.
I didnt even mention the audio recording which is pretty sub par. Im talking audio recording equivalent to phones from 2002. 8khz bit rate, seriously?

homerrulez said:
I assume it may be the compression where 3gs = mov and nexus one = 3gp.
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The wrapper doesn't mean anything. Bit-rates don't either. Both .mov and .3gp are merely the headers and footers of video files. The main block, and the one that really matters is the codec being used. I can tell you that iPhone 3GS uses H.264, and the Nexus one probably does too since it's the exclusive codec of youtube , which is today's gold standard in video compression. Now, if each phone is using the same codec, you can turn on and off settings suit your needs. If you have more processing power, you can use that to shrink the file more. If you want the best battery life, you don't compress it as much.
Having said all that, 6Mbps is rather lousy compression for VGA output if Apple is using H.264. Full frame DVD quality is around 3Mbps properly encoded, and even taking into account the 3GS has to encode in real-time, and shoots 30 progressive frames a second (DVD's are around 24fps) 4Mbps would be the max if the camera was good, which is isn't (not bashing the iPhone specifically, all cell cams suck). 7Mbps would be reasonable if you were shooting 720p, but the 3GS can't do that.
So...summarizing
The Bitrate on the iPhone video seems insanely high, wastefully high. The Nexus One seems better, but is a little too low. Then again, I don't know what you're shooting so I'm just guess. 2Mbps could be perfectly fine if there isn't much movement.

DMaverick50 said:
That's really stupid I expected this phone to have a more capable camera.
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The camera has nothing to do with bitrate. Here's a random frame from an ep of House, ripped from one of my DVD's and re-encoded using the same codec used by these phones, just with the quality settings set REALLY high. The bit rate on this episode is...drum roll please...2,000Kbps. It looks far better than anything the iPhone can shoot because 1)The camera used to shoot it was really nice and expensive and 2)It was encoded and re-encoded using software and hardware a lot nicer and more capable than you can fit on a phone.

homerrulez said:
I really like android OS but cant keep the phone if its video recording is going to be a couple notches lower than the 3gs. What do I do here?
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You're seriously basing your smartphone decision on its videorecording capabilities? If bitrate and/or video quality is 'so' important to you, why are you trying to record video with a phone to begin with? You can get a much better video camera for $600...

divx on Evo, hdmi?

I haven't seen anything one way or another but does anyone know if the Evo will support divx I know HTC has it planned for the desire and Samsung already had it on the galaxy s n the moment. It just makes sense with the hdmi out

It would definitely make sense considering everything. We'll have to wait and see.

The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.

VoXHTC said:
The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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If it wasn't for Apple, I don't think Android would be the way it is now.
There is a lot to thank the competition for.

VoXHTC said:
The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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sure it does better quality, but I really don't want to have to encode all my files from mkv to mp4 just to put them on my phone, i'd rather just play em straight

I don't know about you, but I don't want to copy 15GB movies to my phone. Conversion is really the only way to go.

or just stream them to the device. I'm just not up to date with HD streaming, but normal video streams well.

you'd need nearly a 20mbit connection for that. 15GB/120min/60sec*8

divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264

Does DoubleTwist automatically convert stuff for you?

mrniceguy715 said:
divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264
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I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?

yes i do indeed
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I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?
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dump it..dump it!

ehh im a puss. pics and my opinion on programs isnt proprietary and wouldnt risk my job. Ripping the source and uploading it before launch would be.... so im going to chill and be selfish for a good little while.

Slightly off topic, but would you consider recording some video on the Evo camcorder and posting it so we can check it out?

It no likey 720p mkv

Looks like she doesn't like 720p mkv video. Rock player (old version) plays at like 5fps. Meridian locks up and video player doesn't support that file type with this phone. Could it be this phone isn't meant to be a good multimedia phone?

Heh, I'm emailing devs with logs a lot with progs that aren't working. Ya gotta love new phones!

'vplayer' works rock solid for me (no pun intended!)... the alpha one (yeah, I ante'd up and paid the donation, well the first 100 user donation that is...even though the devel had said it would stay free forever, I love the app and felt he earned compensation). I use it on the Tab (Sprint) i have gratis (thanks to work).
I played a mkv of old school 720p and and a hi-def wmv (pr0n, lol) ..both work fine w/ 0 lag. All my xvids and flv's and mp4's have worked flawlessly. I ripped the old school file myself from a hd-dvd copy I had used handbrake on, a longgg time ago.
Ill try some other mkv's that are newer...Girl With a Dragon Tattoo...and a few others when I have some time away from work.
I'm thoroughly impressed...of course, I was stuck back on a TP2/WM 6.5 for a handset, so of course I stand to be impressed, lol. I was using my lappy for any mkv / 'hi-def' content prior.
Cheers!

I'm downloading it now. I deleted the mkv I had on the phone darn it. The first two episodes of stargate universe. I hope they release the swiss army knife of media players, vlc on android. Yeah I know thats actually perian catch phrase.

I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.

There must be a way to install additional codes on the Evo's though. The Epic does it so well probably due to the GPU.
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I don't have a Shift yet, but am hoping to shortly.
What bitrate does the phone record the high def videos as? Whatever bitrate/audio rate the phone records at, it probably plays back those same files without hiccups. If so, try compressing your videos to the exact same bitrate and see if that works.

You have a good point and that would probably work. One problem would be it would be a pain in the ass to convert anything you want to watch. It can record in 720p but I know that the video and audio bitrate isn't as good or high as hdtv 720p mkv's.

herbthehammer said:
I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.
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Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
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I just remembered a funny old question. Okay, so this machine is the fastest and most powerful available. Will I notice a difference when I use microsoft office?

kenvan19 said:
Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
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Also, just used vPlayer to test 1080p avi playback and it was flawless.

I just ran videospec on a file and it said its video bitrate was 3693 Kbps. That's a lot of information trying to go through a small pipe...
With 720x480 dvds I encode with handbrake, I usually don't go higher than 2000kbps. The phones usually don't have a problem with that speed in playback.

Poor Video Audio Sound

I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.

we should have an online petition for this! video recording in mp4 with aac audio!

3rd party recording apps maybe?
Online petition doesn't work anyways.
Sent via psychic transmittion.

Well i sent htc a couple of emails, stating that the audio quality for video is even overshadowed by nokia phones which are 6 years old, why they still use dreadfull audio when literally every other phone on the market from iphones, nokia's sony erricson's all have higher quality audio recording. I find it hard to believe they have done it because of performance issues, most digital camcorders dont have 1ghz processors and they can do it hands down. HTC are still using the same old rubbish low quality audio thats been around on their pda phones since windows mobile 5. It's time to move on, and if its for compatiblity, well how many people send 20 min HD 720p multimedia messages? when no network carriers even support formats or resolutions like that. I think its misleading and false advertising for HTC promoting this phone as having all this great video quality 8mega pixel cam and HD video to completely let us down with zx spectrum like audio quality. What where the HTC designers even thinking is beyond me. Why do they let iphone and nokia, samsung completley walk all over them in the audio department.

stephenuk said:
I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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Leather|Face said:
If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.

stephenuk said:
I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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First of all 3gp is a container, not a codec. In that container you'll find the same codecs for the audio and video streams like in the mp4 container used by other camcoders - namely h264 for the video and aac for the audio. The poor quality is due to the codec settings used by the application - 8kHz, 32kbps. Why they did that is beyond me. Maybe the frequency response of the microphone is limited to 4kHz and if this is the case, neither Gingerbread, nor Zebra Cake will fix that.

The micropone can record in pristine 44.1khz quality try using tape machine application, the sound quality is fine, also there appears to be 2 microphones on the htc one for phone calls and another for audio recording. Tape machine allows you to select either or, and they both record in good quality, there could even be the possibility of having stereo records if there are 2.

SupremeBeaver said:
I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.
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still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!

Chad_Petree said:
still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!
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Like someone else mentioned, .3gp is only the container, not the codec. So you don't necessarily have to reconvert them, just change the container. Should be much faster that way.
Download this program Avidemux: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
Drag your videos in, on the left leave Video and Audio as is, and only change Format to MP4. Select save video and make sure you type in .mp4 at the end of the filename (otherwise it wont save as a video). You'll notice that it takes only a couple of seconds to change the container and viola you have an mp4 video

What's wrong with htc? even the new sensation has horrible audio quality, check out this video where they compare the sensation's 1080p recording vs the lg 2x , the guy's voiced sounds high pitched :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmctC5gfvI&feature=player_embedded

still the audio recording quality on the camcorder is still piss poor for a device of this calibre

Has the Gingergread update not sorted that yet?

1080p recording update....

Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.

they did say its coming, didnt say in which particular update. They did say that in this one that just came out will come hsupa and they delivered. So just wait, patience.

KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...

KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Motorola Milestone was advertised with flash. People complained, and eventually Froyo was released.
Moto support forums is the best place to bring this to their attention...
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What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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We should be getting both.
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I had 1080 working with LG camera, i believe the chip supports 30 fps 720, 23 fps 1080. When it records in it, it looks like 1080, but its choppy. If it wasnt id be using LG camera for everything, but the sound cuts out sometimes. Its good for a nature scene, slow moving, lots of detail, little distortion. 720 for fast action, nice colors and sound

TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.

CaelanT said:
What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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Yup. Moto rep said we'll get 1080p playback but not recording.

creativedevil said:
We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...
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I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL

KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.

chromedome00 said:
Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.
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It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.

KingKuba13 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.
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If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.

I did see a screen capture in one of those early articles, my guess is that it was later changed, and is no longer in the plans.

unsl said:
TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.
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I've been playing around with LGcamera app myself for a bit.
I find the stock 720p looks better than the 1080p on whatever setting you use with LG. What settings did you find look the best with 720p?
I think I've only took one video that looked decent, everything else looks kind of average. Very grainy. Idk, maybe I'm expecting too much from a phone. lol

You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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KingKuba13 said:
It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.
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4mths? Phones been out for a little over 2.

BravoMotorola said:
I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL
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They give the developement community way too much credit and I'm not trying to take anything away from those guys. It's just ridiculous to expect these guys to crack the bootloader. I guarantee you they wont this is way beyond their ability and no measly $3000 bounty is going to change that.
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phobos512 said:
You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
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chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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It's a little more complex than that. It was originally stated we would get 1080P capture and the Motorola Page used to say this in the official specs.
The image in the screen in this story is what the specs page used to look like before Moto switched it all up: (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/)
Long, short- Motorola promised it and reneged in a low key way.
EDIT: Now that I think more about it, search this forum and you will probably find the post of the user who first noticed that the specs page changed.