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[Q] Move apps from sd-ext to NAND, then repartition SD card

Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!

ejebyte said:
Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!
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try link2sd in the market,it's free,but once you've moved all u want to,boot into recovery and wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik,that MIGHT do the trick

one question, how do you want to partition your sd? i mean one fat or one ext partition? But seriously, one partition is a bad idea, i wouldnt recommend that.

@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?

Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Ty5982 said:
Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]

jwchips said:
Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]
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@Ty5982, unfortunately it didn't work. It went badly and I lost the apps in sd-ext so I ended up restoring them..
@jwchips, thanks! Will try that one instead. Yep, I've read about the tools/apps that can be used to partition/format storage devices with EXT. Thanks again.

ejebyte said:
@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?
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well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.

greg17477 said:
well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.
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I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.

ejebyte said:
I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.
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ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition

greg17477 said:
ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition
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That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!

ejebyte said:
That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!
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Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks

colinmc8 said:
Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks
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be sure to format both partitions as primary.

Step by step installation guide for nativesd method by securecrt

people who does not understand the installation method of native sd please follow these steps
create ext 4 partition of minimum 512mb
1.unzip the recovery zip file from this link (http://goo.im/devs/Xylograph/Various/Recoveries) copy zimage & intrid file from recovery and paste these files on root of your sd card
2.go to magldr menu and 2 nd option (ad sd) then press call button
3.then it will take you to recovery mode
4.flash the rom(paranoid 1.99 or 2)
5.after that your sd card will have folder called nativesd click on folder inside there will be one more folder pa
6.copy zimage & intrid files
7. before that delete the zimage & intrid files of recovery from root of your sd card
8.paste the zimage & intrid files of pa
9.reboot
THANKS TO SECURECRT,XYLOGRAPH,PHO3NIX,COTULLA,TYTUNG

Can I make a ext4 partition on my sdcard w/o PC as I've currently a company laptop only which doesn't allow to install any partition tool??
Cheers.....LinChina

LinChina said:
Can I make a ext4 partition on my sdcard w/o PC as I've currently a company laptop only which doesn't allow to install any partition tool??
Cheers.....LinChina
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you can use PartitionWizard to make ext4 partition on sd card

anhnq said:
you can use PartitionWizard to make ext4 partition on sd card
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he can't install that warez in his PC/ NB.
@LinChina
i think recovery(CWM) only makes EXT3 but i'm not really sure about that, your best bet is use a pc that can have those warez on it
or this, if you can place & unzip the file in your NB
3a Use the provided 4EXT recovery (NAND or SD version) to create the partitions and format them.
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NativeSD Dual Installer v2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31110719&postcount=2

Now I know ..but the first post is for people who don't have magldr or android on nand....SD recovery is not needed when you have cwm recovery inbuilt in magldr
Easy steps
1. Use minitool partition manager on PC to make sdext4 partition (cwm makes only ext3 ..so is not useful)
2. Copy your favorite native SD rom zip folder to SD card
3. In magldr ..go to ad recovery..install zip from SD...then follow instructions ..default path install is SD ext
4. Reboot
Enjoy
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Hi everyone, it only looks that I'm a new user, it's because i've never posted anything before. I have Hd2 for almost 2 years from now and like 1,5 year being passive user on XDA. Anyway I do have problems that i can't manage myself. OP asked a dumb question, only if he has Android Nand or Windows Mobile, however... nobody ever tried making it work with WP7? I've been working on it few hours and don't have a clue how to do it. I've deleted my FAT32 partition and split it into Fat32+Ext4. If EXT is logical, WPH boots and show "Storage Card not working", but if it's primary it doesn't even boot. Is there anyway to solve this thing? Any help much appreciated, thanks.

maykel. said:
Hi everyone, it only looks that I'm a new user, it's because i've never posted anything before. I have Hd2 for almost 2 years from now and like 1,5 year being passive user on XDA. Anyway I do have problems that i can't manage myself. OP asked a dumb question, only if he has Android Nand or Windows Mobile, however... nobody ever tried making it work with WP7? I've been working on it few hours and don't have a clue how to do it. I've deleted my FAT32 partition and split it into Fat32+Ext4. If EXT is logical, WPH boots and show "Storage Card not working", but if it's primary it doesn't even boot. Is there anyway to solve this thing? Any help much appreciated, thanks.
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You can use the same link as 2 post before yours and check the section about "NativeSD Installation for Magldr NAND Android & WP7 users".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31110719&postcount=2
@mengfei.....just downloaded and will try and feedback if succeded.......hopefully :laugh:
Edit1: Thanks a lot mengfei.....EXT4 created....now will try one of the natives sd
Edit2: "Aokp Nightly 04-09-2012" run sooooooooooo fast!!!!!
Cheers.....LinChina

^ Glad to know you got it working :highfive:

I like to try nativeSD Android roms, but with MAGLdr it runs into a deadlock as MAGLdr does not support WinMo 6.5.
Is there a way to use NativeSD? even better with multiboot?

Hi at all,
today I installed ACA NativeSD on partition EXT4 into my sd card. I copy and paste the 2, zImage, intrid file which I fund in NativeSD/ACA folder, into root of my sd card. I rebooted and when I choose Boot AS SD in MAGLDR the ROM do not boot.
What I do wrong?

eclyptos said:
Hi at all,
today I installed ACA NativeSD on partition EXT4 into my sd card. I copy and paste the 2, zImage, intrid file which I fund in NativeSD/ACA folder, into root of my sd card. I rebooted and when I choose Boot AS SD in MAGLDR the ROM do not boot.
What I do wrong?
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you must copy the 2 files from "<SDCARD>/NativeSD/ACA" to "<SDCARD>/NativeSD" (and not to "<SDCARD>/" )
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o82239 said:
you must copy the 2 files from "<SDCARD>/NativeSD/ACA" to "<SDCARD>/NativeSD" (and not to "<SDCARD>/" )
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but I got already 2 file in there (zImage & intrid), do I have to relace them? Anyway if I try to set up the AD SD Dir from Magldr I do not see the NativeSD folder so will not boot anyway. I think I have problems with 4EXT but I am not sure.

eclyptos said:
but I got already 2 file in there (zImage & intrid), do I have to relace them? Anyway if I try to set up the AD SD Dir from Magldr I do not see the NativeSD folder so will not boot anyway. I think I have problems with 4EXT but I am not sure.
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yes, you must replace the 2 files...
why you can't see the folder: check on a PC, if the folder has hidden attribute... or try to create a new folder, copy all files from the old to the new, delete old and rename new folder...
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o82239 said:
yes, you must replace the 2 files...
why you can't see the folder: check on a PC, if the folder has hidden attribute... or try to create a new folder, copy all files from the old to the new, delete old and rename new folder...
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ok, I will replace them.
Why I do not see the folder? I ask my self the same question and I don't know why, anyway my card is recognized and the folder is there, if will be hidden I will not see the folders, I also put different card into my hd2 with different folders and still the same. I think the 4EXT recovery make something wrong with partitions or I do.

LinChina said:
Can I make a ext4 partition on my sdcard w/o PC as I've currently a company laptop only which doesn't allow to install any partition tool??
Cheers.....LinChina
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you may partition your sd card by this way
backup your data first, reboot into recovery, choose option 8. ad recovery => advance => partition sd card, choose your own option and wait

[Q] Moving from SD to NativeSD

Hi all,
I apologize for not posting into the appropriate develeopment thread but I am not allowed to post there.
[17.Sep.2012][MAGLDR/SD][NativeSD] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA-SD V2.7
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup but I wonder if I could somehow simply copy the contents of the *.ext4 files to the new EXT4 partition somewhere?
Thanks.

If you are already using an ext 4 for app2sd on your nand ..don't worry ...you can install native SD rom without problem ..and not losing data..native SD rom files get installed in a folder called native SD and your nand rom files are on the root of the ext 4..so you can have both using the same ext4
If you are using an SD build ..that means your files are on fat32 part...copy that..make a back up on PC..make SD ext 4 partition ...install native SD build ...copy back the backup on fat32 portion and you are good to go...you can have both
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Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
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Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
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I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.

Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.
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Hello Hacker4748,
I would recommend to create a fresh data.ext4 from your NativeSD build once it is installed. I also recommend strongly to format your SD card after you copied its content to your PC. Don't use fast format! The formating procedure will take it's time but otherwise you might get problems with installation and/or battery consumption.
If you haven't read it until now, here's a link to mengfeis superb HOWTO (don't forget hitting his thanks button ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31414628&postcount=1
Have fun
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TitaniumBackup (TB)
Hacker4748 said:
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup
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It can be done easily with TitaniumBackup. Keep the working SD build in FAT32 and TB will use this info to restore your apps, data and xml (calls, sms etc).
TB will not restore the icons - some loaders may allow you to backup and restore settings.
Cheers
Tom

Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
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the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)

Thanks to all.
pakure said:
the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)
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Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.

Yes...
Ext4 of the native sd works similar to data.IMG file.. of old sd build method.
Try it and you will understand yourself
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Migrate SD install to NativeSD
I have the same question but can't quite relate the answers to what I have on my memory card. I have a (mostly) working copy of 2.3.7 that I've been using for some time, but often have problems after connecting the phone to a computer - sometimes files added to the SD fat32 partition don't show up, or my ringtone on the SD doesn't work or .... So I was also wondering whether rather than install a fresh setup on NativeSD and reload all the apps (tried twice with 4.x versions and neither are happy) I could just move my SD install to NativeSD.
In the /Android folder I have kernel files, the large data filesystem, a smaller system one and some other stuff. Under /NativeSD I also have some kernel files and 2 folders, one for each attempt at a NativeSD install. I understand some of what's in startup.txt but it doesn't appear to be enough. I guess there must be things in the SD builds which tell the phone where to find data and system which would need changing? Is this possible?
Thanks

Moving from SD to NativeSD
Hacker4748 said:
Thanks to all.
Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.
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One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom

Szczepanik said:
One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom
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Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks

NativeSD
MrSoapsud said:
Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks
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MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom

OK - thanks again. Will take a look at that stuff and/or try one of those other ROMs.

Szczepanik said:
MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom
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Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin

MrSoapsud said:
Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin
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My experience is, all speed and comfort of NativeSD depend on your sd card.
If you have card with good random r/w speed then you just need to test which custom roms fits you.
If you have card with bad slow random r/w speed(not class, normal speeed etc) then my advice is do alot xda and internet search for fast sd card with good random r/w. When you find good sd card allways try to buy exact model, cause even small difference in model number makes big difference in random r/w.
Atm sd card manufacturers doesnt provide full info about speeed except normal read and write so expect alot time energy spend on research.
Htc hd2 how is getting older he will need more and more investment and sd card will be crucial one.
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[Q] Not enough internal storage

Like everyone here, I have the famous HTC Leo. A friend installed Android on NAND, the 2.3.4 with the mod-HyperDroid CM7-v2.1.0.
This is a great device, but the more I use it, the more I have less internal memory.
At first, I installed a lot of applications, I was full of things and I ended up filling the internal memory. I moved the more applications possible on the SD card, but the internal memory ended up being full. So I uninstalled applications not too useful, and applications more useful, clean caches, remove data, but it is still too small. My system tells me that I only have 217.3 Mb total internal memory and while I hardly more than application system installed, I only have 21.3 MB available. Now, I know that this model has double.
I do not understand: what is this devilry? Where is my memory? How can I resume normal operation until all the memory is gone and my phone becomes unusable?
I can't be the only one to whom it happens, right?

only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.

samsamuel said:
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
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Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:

shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
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so, pretty much exactly what i described, then....

shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
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So, I don't really need to use this. I just can install a new ROM on my NAND after making extending place on my SD for the 'dataonext', can't I?
I have to choose a dataonext ROM (with french version) and make new partition on my CD card. I'm saving all the SD card data's just now (with luckyBackup, because I'm on ubuntu PC).
My problem is find a good ROM for my needs. So, I have HSPL 2.0.8 and MAGLDR. How can I find the rom radio number? I need this information to choose the good ROM. Any advices about good ROM for my needs?

r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.

samsamuel said:
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
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I bought a new 16 GB SD card to try the method of post 1843062. I am trying to format as it should, and tonight or tomorrow, I'm trying to see if I can install the script without too much risk, I am not a very experienced user of ROM for HD2 and, in addition, as I'm 100% Linux Ubuntu, I saw that many procedures are more complicated or impossible to run from a Linux desktop.
Thank you for all your help and I'll let you know.

I need to understand.
I have a EU HD2 with HyperDroid CM7 installed on it.
Like many people here, my memory became too small over time. So I look for a solution and I was guided to this thread. While speaking, I read everything I could understand (and frankly there really is too much to read and understand, here ) and I ended up deciding to adopt the solution Kokotas.
So I bought a new SD card (16GB class 10 Duracell - I know, Duracell is a brand of batteries ...) and I formatted properly Gparted as shown, with one primary partition of 12 GB fat32 I named /données (French for datas) and a second primary partition 4 GB Ext4 I named /data.
Then I primed to install the script Kokotas (but I have not yet done so, this is the trick!) And there: surprise!
I suddenly 4 times more free memory internally (from 20 MB to 80 MB), but it is still the same overall size!
I wonder how it is done, because it's been months that I want to release the NAND memory, I deleted almost all my applications downloaded without great effect and there, before installing the solution Kokotas, hop, I have the place!
I run Nautilus on my HD2 connected via USB and what do I see? in the partition /data in ext4, records were Cres /app /app-private and /dalvik-cache.
What does that mean? My ROM can do one DATAtoEXT 2011 alone, when she sees a partition SD / data?
Do I install the script Kokotas or it is not worth it?
Do I flash a new ROM (I thought MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but I'm not sure it's a good idea) without risk, in short I need to understand what happens with my phone.
Thank you.
(Sorry for my english : this is the fault of Google translation )

You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.

orangekid said:
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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I thought NAND is better for battery's management...

Monolecte said:
I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
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I didn't see any great battery improvement with NAND.

ROM flashing don't work
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?

Monolecte said:
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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use the nand toolkit

samsamuel said:
use the nand toolkit
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With an Ubuntu PC?

After miles of thread reading here, I won against the machine!
I have something like a new phone.
Thank you everybody.
If I can do it, anybody can do it!

ubuntu or windows will be fine.

The NAND Toolkit is a Windows software... so...

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Archive seems to be corrupted.

rebgershon said:
Thanks for your speedy reply.
I have some further questions though:
1. which 'recovery' do you mean and where will I find Titanium backup and tytung tool?
2. I have downloaded the paragon software to copy the sd card contents which I will try to do now. However, what are the 'normal' methods used to resize as I mentioned in my previous post that the ext4 partition seems fixed when using the mini tool partition software?
TIA,
Geoff.
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Robbie,
I have put the sd card into the slot on my computer (which is a year old HP laptop) and also tried in a USB port but the Paragon software is not recognising the card at all, with only the c drive being shown. However, I am able to see the contents of the fat32 partition of the SD card through explorer as normal. Am I doing something wrong??
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Which recovery did you use to install the rom? does it have facility to backup ext partitions? I know macs18max edited SDrecovery can do this from the first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd2-android/nand-dev/nov-17-2015-kernel-3-0-101-t3251438 others can too.
titanium backup can be found in play store, free and paid versions. haven't used it myself for a while and only used free one. people on this forum swear by it though.
tytung's NativeSD backup might have to be searched for, I'm afraid.
Don't know why your ext partition is not showing up. What rom(s) are you using?
magldr or clk?
Sounds like you will have to use a backup method from the phone as opposed to pc, to store the contents on your FAT partition, then move/copy them to pc.
does this make sense?

Robbie P said:
Which recovery did you use to install the rom? does it have facility to backup ext partitions? I know macs18max edited SDrecovery can do this from the first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd2-android/nand-dev/nov-17-2015-kernel-3-0-101-t3251438 others can too.
titanium backup can be found in play store, free and paid versions. haven't used it myself for a while and only used free one. people on this forum swear by it though.
tytung's NativeSD backup might have to be searched for, I'm afraid.
Don't know why your ext partition is not showing up. What rom(s) are you using?
magldr or clk?
Sounds like you will have to use a backup method from the phone as opposed to pc, to store the contents on your FAT partition, then move/copy them to pc.
does this make sense?
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Thanks again Robbie. Tis whole thing gets wierder as follows:
I'm using Nexus HD2 Jellybean-CM10_V1.3a as the rom. In the recovery directory of the SD card there's the Jellybean rom as mentioned, clrcad (dated 8/7/2010, haret, initrd.zip, startup text document & zImage (dated 5/9/2012).
There's also a NativeSD directory with the same files as the recovery directory.
Running Haret from the recovery directory takes me to 4EXT Recovery v2.2.7 RC5.
It also shows: E: can't find misc
E: failed to find "cache" partition to mount at "/cache".
In the info section it lists the sd-ext partition ext4 1012MiB free 135.5mb, sdcard fat32 14175 MiB free 8.0gb.
Attempt to backup fails as can't find cache partition, boot, recovery logs on E:
I loaded the Paragon software on my newer laptop but no ext partition was found. I then loaded the Paragon software on an older laptop and hey presto the partition was there. I tried to back this up on the pc but had repeated problems with files not being read. Then suddenly the ext partition disappeared on the pc but phone booted into Android-phew!.
I tried on the 1st pc and suddenly it recognised the ext partition. I tried backing up the partition but again had read problems. The fat32 partition backed up without 1 error.
So where do I go now? I don't want to loose the data in the ext partition but don't seem to be able to backup. Any suggestions welcome.
Geoff.

rebgershon said:
Thanks again Robbie. Tis whole thing gets wierder as follows:
I'm using Nexus HD2 Jellybean-CM10_V1.3a as the rom. In the recovery directory of the SD card there's the Jellybean rom as mentioned, clrcad (dated 8/7/2010, haret, initrd.zip, startup text document & zImage (dated 5/9/2012).
There's also a NativeSD directory with the same files as the recovery directory.
Running Haret from the recovery directory takes me to 4EXT Recovery v2.2.7 RC5.
It also shows: E: can't find misc
E: failed to find "cache" partition to mount at "/cache".
In the info section it lists the sd-ext partition ext4 1012MiB free 135.5mb, sdcard fat32 14175 MiB free 8.0gb.
Attempt to backup fails as can't find cache partition, boot, recovery logs on E:
All the above is normal for NativeSD, your sdrecovery doesn't allow for backing up the ext partition
I loaded the Paragon software on my newer laptop but no ext partition was found. I then loaded the Paragon software on an older laptop and hey presto the partition was there. I tried to back this up on the pc but had repeated problems with files not being read. Then suddenly the ext partition disappeared on the pc but phone booted into Android-phew!.
I tried on the 1st pc and suddenly it recognised the ext partition. I tried backing up the partition but again had read problems. The fat32 partition backed up without 1 error.
So where do I go now? I don't want to loose the data in the ext partition but don't seem to be able to backup. Any suggestions welcome.
Geoff.
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perhaps paragon wasn't the best choice for backing up. Try the recovery linked-to above, put it on your sdcard and run haret from its folder (you might have to change the folder name so that it is not the same as your other recovery folder). then select backup, then scroll down to sdext, tick it and swipe, it should copy to your FAT, and it seems you have plenty of space there. I haven't tried this backup method, which is why I said use 2 methods to backup. the more the merrier.
There are free sms, phone and app backup applications such as superbackup in playstore.
There was also a way to copy the whole sdcard as an image, partitions included, I will have a look for it.

Robbie P said:
perhaps paragon wasn't the best choice for backing up. Try the recovery linked-to above, put it on your sdcard and run haret from its folder (you might have to change the folder name so that it is not the same as your other recovery folder). then select backup, then scroll down to sdext, tick it and swipe, it should copy to your FAT, and it seems you have plenty of space there. I haven't tried this backup method, which is why I said use 2 methods to backup. the more the merrier.
There are free sms, phone and app backup applications such as superbackup in playstore.
There was also a way to copy the whole sdcard as an image, partitions included, I will have a look for it.
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Robbie thanks again.
I downloaded the recovery folder from your link but there's only 2 files in it namely initrd.gz and zImage, there's no haret. I have copied the haret, clrcad & startup text files files from the old recovery directory but it just hangs on running haret.
Geoff.

Sorry Geoff, I am not giving you very good advice. That recovery has a 3.0 kernel in it, and won't boot from haret. Am working ATM, will reply later.

Robbie P said:
Sorry Geoff, I am not giving you very good advice. That recovery has a 3.0 kernel in it, and won't boot from haret. Am working ATM, will reply later.
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Hi again Robbie,
I have good news and bad!!
I managed to eventually get the Paragon software to recognise the ext4 partition on my new laptop. What's odd is that the ext4 partition is listed under the name of the c drive. I then unmount and remount the ext4 with a new drive letter and I can then read/write. So having managed to mount, I was able to copy off all the files from the FAT32 & ext4 partitions to my hard disk. That's the end of the good bit.
As its 3 years since I did the last Jellybean install, I'd forgotten what to do and kept seeing posts about magldr and custom radio roms. I tried to boot into magldr on the phone while doing the sd card backups but it wouldn't go into it. I had assumed I must have installed it when I did the original SD rom install and I then wrongly assumed I needed to reinstall the HSPL4 and custom radio roms to get it on again. The former was ok but the latter caused the phone to hang on reboot at the HTC logo. At this point I went to the bootloader screen but after having the 4 colour screen I then got the white screen with blue writing for updating the rom from an sd card (there must have been an unzipped rom on the card). I mistakenly hit the install rom button and this erased all the phone's data before I'd had chance to use SD Backup, a programme I hadn't bothered using since long before I converted to Android.
I then looked back in my old bookmarks and came across a facebook guide to the Native SD installation which didn't mention magldr at all and it was at this point that I realised I'd not previously loaded it on the phone, although I did eventually manage to get it on after downgrading the HSPL to 2.08 and successfully flashing the custom radio only to be permanently booting into magldr-so I again reflashed the stock rom to get rid of it! What a waste of time!!
Having backed up the sd card partitions, I erased the partitions and made a new ext4 of 3gb and copied back the files to both partitions. I tried to boot the haret in the native SD folder but the phone hung at the HTC logo and then rebooted itself back into windows. I tried installing the jelly bean rom as an update using ext4 recovery but no joy. I tried wiping the ext4 partition and reformatting with EXT4 recovery then installing the rom as a new install which then booted into Android ok after which I overwrote the ext4 files with the previously saved ones. Now I get a boot into the CyanogenMod screen but no further even after waiting 30 mins. I also tried using NAtiveSD onetouch recovery to try and make a backcup of the old system and then restore over the new install (but not the boot files) but again I just get the hung CyanogenMod screen.
So do you have any idea of how I might get a successful boot with my old data? Perhaps I'm missing something else in the overwrite/restore process but I can't see what.
Any further help would be grateful-perhaps you have forum contact who might be able to help as well.
TIA,
Geoff.:crying: