It is advertised that the HTC Glacier has a 4GB internal internal memory but instead,it actually has about 1GB of internal memory.
How can I get more memory Space please?
Also,does this phone support 4G network as mentioned in the name?
619batista said:
It is advertised that the HTC Glacier has a 4GB internal internal memory but instead,it actually has about 1GB of internal memory.
How can I get more memory Space please?
Also,does this phone support 4G network as mentioned in the name?
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The internal memory formats out to about 1.1 GB for apps and app data. You can try moving some apps over to your SD card if you're getting low on space.
By "4G" they mean HSPA+. The theoretical max download speed is 14.4 mbps, though you'll never see that. It's as fast as you're going to get on a 2 year old device, though. The fastest I've gotten was slightly over 8 mbps on T-mobile.
I actually should correct myself: the internal memory is advertised as 4GB, but it's less. 768MB is probably used for hibernating, mentioned in another thread.
Since part of the internal memory goes to system (AKA "ROM"), and part (small) goes also to baseband and other partitions, you're left with 1.1GB. Expected, and enough for just about anything.
"4G" has too many meanings, and in marketing only refers to the ability of the device to go over the "3.5G", which is standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, without actually regarding the way it uses (higher speed HSPA or LTE). It's a false use, but it's common and all over the place.
Jack_R1 said:
I actually should correct myself: the internal memory is advertised as 4GB, but it's less. 768MB is probably used for hibernating, mentioned in another thread.
Since part of the internal memory goes to system (AKA "ROM"), and part (small) goes also to baseband and other partitions, you're left with 1.1GB. Expected, and enough for just about anything.
"4G" has too many meanings, and in marketing only refers to the ability of the device to go over the "3.5G", which is standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, without actually regarding the way it uses (higher speed HSPA or LTE). It's a false use, but it's common and all over the place.
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I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
matada said:
I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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This is true of all myTouch 4G's/Panache's. That's the way memory works.
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matada said:
I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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If you want a phone that doesn't have any OS - you can have it with 768MB of RAM.
If you want Linux OS to run in this memory - it needs a ramdisk for kernel. Which takes memory. Which isn't reported to you, since it's not part of available memory and can't be used. As estallings15 wrote, this is how things work.
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I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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Mine reads 768mb in the task manager.
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Possibly ICS/Sense4 thing? Just checked, my GB reads 621MB. In any case it's not like you can use this space, my guess is that it's just the same number being added to counter of total RAM and removed from counter of free RAM, to avoid questions like in this thread. Psychological effect...
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Is it 8GB for os + apps and 8GB for media? Or maybe a new file system with Gingerbread that does not allow USB mass storage but all 16GB for os + apps + media?
It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
So we are probably looking at roughly 14gb of available data stock? That's not that bad after all, most people are dealing with a 16gb microSD anyways. At least this will be faster... they should have made it 32gb or at least have the option... my heart is broken to have no removable storage (almost a deal-breaker)
It's not too terrible honestly. It's fully accessible when plugged into a PC. It's simply an internal SD card... Just copy the files off if you want them moved. No huge deal imho. Not that I wouldn't have preferred it to be external (bought a new 16GB class 4 for nothing)
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It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
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Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
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Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
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Err what? That's the point of the SD Cards. It is very easy for an game to download it's resources onto the SD Card... I own an iPad. Android and iPad do things differently. Both approaches work.
The Nexus S actually has two flash parts -- 512MB of onenand and 16GB emmc. The onenand hosts the bootloader, kernel/ramdisk, radio firmware, and the cache partition (yaffs2). The emmc part hosts /system (ext4), /data (ext4), and /sdcard (vfat).
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I believe the /data partition which holds the apps(AFAIK) is about 1 GB from the screenshots.
very disappointing that over a year after the moto droid launches, we have moved to internal storage (which should give more room for more memory) and we are still stuck at 16gb
The galaxy S line works like this:
2GB /Data partition for apps
13GB /sdcard partition that acts exactly like an SD card.
The extra missing 1GB is most likely the system storage.
The storage for app is about 1GB. See screenshot from Engadget :
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644046
See screenshot no. 45.
There you go, happy?
I think I am fine with it. Right now I am using HTC Desire with its pathetic 40MB storage for app. So, 1GB is a huge upgrade for me
Check Engadget, they explain that apps can be placed in the internal extra space to substitute for the lack of SD card, still not great but at least you know Google knew this would be an issue, and fixed it. Honestly, the market is full of great 3d games, if I were to download all of the great 3d games in the market, I would still have enough space on the device for my 5 gigs of music, they don't take that much space.
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
saint327 said:
Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
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You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
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You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
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You can on the hero CDMA with firerat's mod
demo23019 said:
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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would of rather the 2GB to be on the safe side, but 5 times the space of the nexus one sounds pretty damn good to me.
So I did the permaroot per the directions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 and it seemed to give me about 60MB more ram available?? Is that right? Has anyone else experienced this?
BTW Thanks to the poster for, this it worked like a charm and the directions were super easy to follow. and thanks to the great linking I was able to do the whole thing on my phone without even hooking it up to my PC!
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So I did the permaroot per the directions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 and it seemed to give me about 60MB more ram available?? Is that right? Has anyone else experienced this?
BTW Thanks to the poster for, this it worked like a charm and the directions were super easy to follow. and thanks to the great linking I was able to do the whole thing on my phone without even hooking it up to my PC!
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Depends on the rom you are using..
Stock with the OTA update... how would the rom I am using make a difference in how much memory would be available before/after?
just curious
i would think ram should stay the same no matter which rom you have. now rom may change depending on how much memory the rom you go with takes up.... doesnt answer your original question just pointing out what ive normally seen. do you meen total ram or unused ram? just to clarify....
o and this is going to get moved to q&a pretty fast lol
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
I meant the amount of available memory. I wonder why it changed, either way im happy so im not sure I really care what the reason is lol
@mod sorry for putting this in the wrong section
Your RAM is constantly changing depending on the processes and services running at any given time. As far as available usable memory, that too will vary depending on what apps you have loaded/running. If you're like me and rooted, I run an app called Move2SD which allows me to move almost any app to SD; freeing up some available memory.
But every device will vary depending on apps installed and processes/services running.
I have 72 apps installed.
You can see my avail memory below
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I run an app called Move2SD which allows me to move almost any app to SD; freeing up some available memory.
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Can I just ask you why would you move apps to external sd card? Is there any benefit to it? Because I fail to see any. Apps2SD was useful on G1 with it's 90MB(or less) memory available to end-user but why in the world would you do it on the phone with 1GB of available memory?
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Can I just ask you why would you move apps to external sd card? Is there any benefit to it? Because I fail to see any. Apps2SD was useful on G1 with it's 90MB(or less) memory available to end-user but why in the world would you do it on the phone with 1GB of available memory?
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Just simply a personal preference. No other reason. But I will add that when moving apps to my SD card (16GB class 6), it does free up some space. When all apps are installed on phone, memory available is around 900MB. With them on the card I have around 988MB free.
Might be a small amount overall but for me I like to keep things on my card.
My fault, what I mean to say was RAM, not storage space. I understand what you are saying as far as available storage on the device based on whatever changes are made by rooting, but what I meant was I have roughly 60 - 80 additional RAM since rooting... that I dont get lol
Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
Soz, XDA must have messed up in the Device Thingy it Said 32GB of RAM and 2GB storage
Thought it was Odd
Even got the Pic of It
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Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
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It doesn't have 32GB of RAM. It has 2GB of RAM and either 16GB or 32GB of storage
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jezus101 said:
Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
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I think you've got it wrong.
It has up to 32 GB of internal storage. Only 2GB RAM.
OMG. /facepalm
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Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
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Hi,
This tab is having 2GB of RAM and 32 GBof internal storage,not as u think.
jezus101 said:
Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
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Jesus!!!
jezus101 said:
Why does this tablet have 32GB of RAM?
My PC only has 8GB and most Tablets have 1GB or 2GB
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The reason is that XDA have incorrectly typed up 32 GB of RAM instead of 32 GB of ROM while stated ROM is 2 GB
Guys, if you look at the Nexus 10 landing page, you will see that it is incorrectly listed as that... hilarious but incorrect.
Can a mod change it please?
Cheers
OMG
Nexus 10
32 GB RAM
512 GB SSD
8-core i7
GTX 680 in SLI
........Battery Life 5 minutes
........Weight 2 KG
:cyclops:
Look carefully =_=
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I don't know why you'd be upset if it did have 32GB of RAM. You could load the whole OS and all apps and data into RAM at boot and have a blazing fast system! Sure, boot and shutdown would be slow but I think the performance boost would be pretty significant.
mundixx said:
OMG. /facepalm
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Lol. This was my exact reaction too. Lmao.
jefftheworld said:
I don't know why you'd be upset if it did have 32GB of RAM. You could load the whole OS and all apps and data into RAM at boot and have a blazing fast system! Sure, boot and shutdown would be slow but I think the performance boost would be pretty significant.
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Probably not since android wouldn't be able to use it. Is android 32bit or 64bit?
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jezus101 said:
Probably not since android wouldn't be able to use it. Is android 32bit or 64bit?
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Android is multiarch, but the ARMv7 chipset in Nexus 10 is 32-bit. Newer AArch64 (ARMv8) CPUs, due 2013, will be 64-bit.
jefftheworld said:
I don't know why you'd be upset if it did have 32GB of RAM. You could load the whole OS and all apps and data into RAM at boot and have a blazing fast system! Sure, boot and shutdown would be slow but I think the performance boost would be pretty significant.
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And then say good bye to all your apps and data right when you turn it off.
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And then say good bye to all your apps and data right when you turn it off.
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Only if the device was shut down improperly. At low load times and during a proper shutdown it would dump any changes to non-volatile memory. There are plenty of operating systems that can function from RAM and maintain persistence.
Requesting Thread Lock or delete
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The OS itself might be using a portion of it that's not visible, however, I always have around 600MB+ in-use, even with bare Stock and AOSP... so I doubt this.
It probably is the OS and kernel using up a chunk. Android 4.2 is pretty heavy.
Android also caches stuff in RAM that isnt even open, even right at boot. This is to help open those apps faster, but if something else needs that cached memory space then Android automatically drops the app in cache and uses it for whatever is needed.
Remember, unused RAM is wasted RAM. Looks to me like you have 600MB of waste
Part of the 2GB DRAM is probably also shared with video memory and since the resolution is so high it's a big chunk.
same problem but not with nexus 4
Hi guys,
I have the same problem with my nexus 10, about 500-600 MB RAM lost..
The strange thing is that in my nexus 4 it recognize alla 2 GB RAM.
In my nexus 10 I have 2 users, do you think that can ne the cause?
Thanks
faithjano said:
Hi guys,
I have the same problem with my nexus 10, about 500-600 MB RAM lost..
The strange thing is that in my nexus 4 it recognize alla 2 GB RAM.
In my nexus 10 I have 2 users, do you think that can ne the cause?
Thanks
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Multiuser doesn't have any effect; I've had about 1.6GB memory available on all custom ROM's and Kernels I've tried. The fact that the Nexus 4 displays all 2GB usable though does still raise the question as to why about 400MB is missing on the Nexus 10.
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Part of the 2GB DRAM is probably also shared with video memory and since the resolution is so high it's a big chunk.
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This might be a possibility; but I think at this point the Kernel source might be a good place to start digging for proof of whether this is happening or not.
Some GPUs have dedicated memory and it does not share from the system RAM, our GPU shares and thus it takes a chunk of what we have available.
If it makes you feel any better on my GSIII with CM10 its a 2GB device says 1630MB is available. Sounds normal with the N10 mine is the same
The ram measurement on Android has never shown as 100% empty (I think my Nexus One had 276MB free). Same as a Desktop/Laptop, it would only be 100% unused if there were no Kernel or libraries loaded.
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I dug into android memory management quite a bit when trying to optimize Shadowgun Deadzone performance. I don't think any of the apps measure memory used by native code. There's an adb command that will show you native memory use for an app, but I never dug that far into it. Again, I'm not a developer, but I assume your missing memory is being used by used by the parts android running native code. What's not clear to me is how android handles how much native memory an app can use. I got over my gaming fixation, but I'm still curious about this. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd love to hear it.
Mine says 1gb used and 613mb free
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bioorganic said:
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I dug into android memory management quite a bit when trying to optimize Shadowgun Deadzone performance. I don't think any of the apps measure memory used by native code. There's an adb command that will show you native memory use for an app, but I never dug that far into it. Again, I'm not a developer, but I assume your missing memory is being used by used by the parts android running native code. What's not clear to me is how android handles how much native memory an app can use. I got over my gaming fixation, but I'm still curious about this. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd love to hear it.
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I've checked /proc/meminfo and it looks like even the kernel doesn't see the full 2GB (assuming it is really there). MemTotal is 1,686,380 kB. Even if they were using 2GB==2,000,000,000 B, it's still missing over 150MB. I'd really like to know what is going on, but even Google support is completely clueless.
I'll probably just return it for something that lets me use the amount of RAM advertised.
May be video ram is shared with main memory ?
About 160MB is taken by Android OS (kernel + necessary libraries). It's reserved only for the OS, so it's unavailable for the user. It's common for all Android devices I've had.
For example my i9001 (SGS+) has also missing ~160MB of RAM (should have 512MB, but has only ~350MB available for apps.
If the video memory is shared at the hardware level, the number would make sense. What irks me is that I don't see that mentioned anywhere even on 'techie' blogs/reviews and even Google support doesn't know this about their device.
From what I understand, unless the kernel was modified to report less memory than is really available, meminfo should report the full amount accurately.
I don't even get 1.6 GB of ram
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thats seems to be a normal thing for 4.2.2
As an owner of a previous tablet, my Acer Iconia a500 reported (in 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, and 4.2) that it only had 725MB of RAM (it shipped with 1GB). My guess is that the missing chunk is graphics memory. I also show 1.6GB of RAM in my Nexus 10.
prior to 4.2.2, the GPU had 400-some MB reserved. At 4.2.2, there is almost an extra 400MB (386MB I think to be exact) reserved for the GPU, so 2GB - 800MB = 1.2GB
The extra GPU memory is to prevent userspace fragmentation if I read right.
Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. I just noticed that after the CyanogenMod 4.2.2 patch, mine dropped as well. Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich must've reserved around 256MB of memory.
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Odd, seeing as how the N7 has 975/1024 available
And my nexus 4 has 1.8 of the 2gb available.
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Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
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Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~
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Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~
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Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?
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Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?
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There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android
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There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android
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oh yeah, that's a good analogy. Thank you!
and how come, I posted the public link pf the pic that I uploaded into my google drive.
btw how did the folks in the forum post the pictures?
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Might need more posts - but normally you upload to an image hosting site, then click the little picture icon above the reply box, and paste the direct image URL into there
user7269464 said:
Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
Thanks!
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2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck
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2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck
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