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What's the breakdown of the 16GB of memory?

Is it 8GB for os + apps and 8GB for media? Or maybe a new file system with Gingerbread that does not allow USB mass storage but all 16GB for os + apps + media?

It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...

So we are probably looking at roughly 14gb of available data stock? That's not that bad after all, most people are dealing with a 16gb microSD anyways. At least this will be faster... they should have made it 32gb or at least have the option... my heart is broken to have no removable storage (almost a deal-breaker)

It's not too terrible honestly. It's fully accessible when plugged into a PC. It's simply an internal SD card... Just copy the files off if you want them moved. No huge deal imho. Not that I wouldn't have preferred it to be external (bought a new 16GB class 4 for nothing)

Anderdroid said:
It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
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Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.

Pete2s said:
Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
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Err what? That's the point of the SD Cards. It is very easy for an game to download it's resources onto the SD Card... I own an iPad. Android and iPad do things differently. Both approaches work.

The Nexus S actually has two flash parts -- 512MB of onenand and 16GB emmc. The onenand hosts the bootloader, kernel/ramdisk, radio firmware, and the cache partition (yaffs2). The emmc part hosts /system (ext4), /data (ext4), and /sdcard (vfat).
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I believe the /data partition which holds the apps(AFAIK) is about 1 GB from the screenshots.

very disappointing that over a year after the moto droid launches, we have moved to internal storage (which should give more room for more memory) and we are still stuck at 16gb

The galaxy S line works like this:
2GB /Data partition for apps
13GB /sdcard partition that acts exactly like an SD card.
The extra missing 1GB is most likely the system storage.

The storage for app is about 1GB. See screenshot from Engadget :
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644046
See screenshot no. 45.
There you go, happy?
I think I am fine with it. Right now I am using HTC Desire with its pathetic 40MB storage for app. So, 1GB is a huge upgrade for me

Check Engadget, they explain that apps can be placed in the internal extra space to substitute for the lack of SD card, still not great but at least you know Google knew this would be an issue, and fixed it. Honestly, the market is full of great 3d games, if I were to download all of the great 3d games in the market, I would still have enough space on the device for my 5 gigs of music, they don't take that much space.

Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
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Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.

saint327 said:
Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
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You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day

demo23019 said:
You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
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You can on the hero CDMA with firerat's mod

demo23019 said:
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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would of rather the 2GB to be on the safe side, but 5 times the space of the nexus one sounds pretty damn good to me.

Shooter Evo 4g gets closer to the sun

How do i get more RAM on the shooter Rom it keeps saying memory is to low on device and i have 236 internal memory.... I have partition my sd card ext 3 need help.. THIS IS THE BEST ROM OUT IVE THOUGH I FLASHED TO OTHER ROMS BEFORE THIS ON CM7 AND A INFECTED ROM BOTH SUCK ASS NO OFFENSE TO THE DEVELOPERS... IM JUST SAYING TEAM NOCTURNAL AND GRUSOMEWOLF IS THE BEST OUT... NEED HELP WANT TO GET MY EVO 4G CLOSER TO THE SUN

You should have just asked this in your other "puff piece" thread that's like 2 posts down about this ROM. Or maybe in the roms thread in dev.
Boo

Well I know it just started happening plus I need to get 10 post to comment on the actual developers page
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Holy900AD said:
How do i get more RAM on the shooter Rom it keeps saying memory is to low on device and i have 236 internal memory.... I have partition my sd card ext 3 need help.. THIS IS THE BEST ROM OUT IVE THOUGH I FLASHED TO OTHER ROMS BEFORE THIS ON CM7 AND A INFECTED ROM BOTH SUCK ASS NO OFFENSE TO THE DEVELOPERS... IM JUST SAYING TEAM NOCTURNAL AND GRUSOMEWOLF IS THE BEST OUT... NEED HELP WANT TO GET MY EVO 4G CLOSER TO THE SUN
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That's was a good lol
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Holy900AD said:
How do i get more RAM on the shooter Rom it keeps saying memory is to low on device and i have 236 internal memory.... I have partition my sd card ext 3 need help.. THIS IS THE BEST ROM OUT IVE THOUGH I FLASHED TO OTHER ROMS BEFORE THIS ON CM7 AND A INFECTED ROM BOTH SUCK ASS NO OFFENSE TO THE DEVELOPERS... IM JUST SAYING TEAM NOCTURNAL AND GRUSOMEWOLF IS THE BEST OUT... NEED HELP WANT TO GET MY EVO 4G CLOSER TO THE SUN
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That's was a good lol
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Hoping the grammar police are not on patrol.

Just the space police
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You cant get more ram than what the phone already has. If you want to clear out more memory, move your apps to the sd card, or flash a rom that has a smaller footprint.

sitlet said:
You cant get more ram than what the phone already has. If you want to clear out more memory, move your apps to the sd card, or flash a rom that has a smaller footprint.
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two best options. have u removed bloat from those roms? ive run across some devs still bloat roms with other apps that i dont use or need. same with it being a sense rom some sense stuff can be deleted. in doing so some background services should be gone and free up ram. anywho my two cents
and what rom? most of team nocturnals threads are not very legible to me. i like simple op over flashy lol
and maybe just try a new rom? u'd be surprised

What about swap? When you partition your sd can't you use swap as an extension to ram incase it runs low when using apps that use a lot of RAM????
Edit: if your not on shooter nightly 1.0 I highly recommend you flash it Im on it and no memory problems
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Swap with ICS?

Just wondering, is it better if I set up a swap now-a-days on ICS? I heard some rumors of swap fixing low mem. issues and reboots; mainly on TexasIce's thread. Also, is it ICS that is allowing our phone to use this swap if it does? Thanks for the help guys

We could have always used swap, but it wasn't really necessary for GB. ICS ran fine without swap for me so and I would rather not use it. Try it with and without and see what works best for you.

That's just the thing. I wanted to hear what others had to say because I did not want to have to go through the whole reformatting my SD for no true reason. I have over 20 gbs I would be having to transfer back over and I would have to deal with the slow SD transfer speeds of ICS. (And yes, I know it is a bit faster with 3rd party app or via recovery mounting).

Androidity3000 said:
That's just the thing. I wanted to hear what others had to say because I did not want to have to go through the whole reformatting my SD for no true reason. I have over 20 gbs I would be having to transfer back over and I would have to deal with the slow SD transfer speeds of ICS. (And yes, I know it is a bit faster with 3rd party app or via recovery mounting).
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It's more than just a bit faster, my friend. With the paid version of multi-mount SD, you can hardly believe it. Lightning fast.
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Theshawty said:
It's more than just a bit faster, my friend. With the paid version of multi-mount SD, you can hardly believe it. Lightning fast.
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Amazing transfer speed
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Androidity3000 said:
That's just the thing. I wanted to hear what others had to say because I did not want to have to go through the whole reformatting my SD for no true reason. I have over 20 gbs I would be having to transfer back over and I would have to deal with the slow SD transfer speeds of ICS. (And yes, I know it is a bit faster with 3rd party app or via recovery mounting).
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I havn't tried the Multi Mount but how much of a pain is it to go to the recovery and mount from there, I have a class 10 SD and recovery mounting I can get about 15-20 mb\s, but while in rom i'm limited to probably 3-4, Ill have to try out multi mount though.

Okay cool, a violin. But this isn't about Multi Mount. A bit off topic now. I'll try it and report back my findings (swap, not the app).

I have repartition with swap, tried any ICS roms, but couldn't find any different with that of no swap. Need some wider explanations, too...
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MoeNeXus said:
I have repartition with swap, tried any ICS roms, but couldn't find any different with that of no swap. Need some wider explanations, too...
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With texasice's ICS ROM, before he added his reboot-fix, almost everyone faced reboots because of out-of-memory errors. Now, however, there is little to no need of a swap partition.

Theshawty said:
With texasice's ICS ROM, before he added his reboot-fix, almost everyone faced reboots because of out-of-memory errors. Now, however, there is little to no need of a swap partition.
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After trying it out, I can +1 this now. ICS seems to work the same w/out swap, no performance increase. I just brought this topic up because it was mentioned and I wanted to test the myth to see if ICS actually worked fast/stable with a swap.
Conclusion: Myth / belief busted, swap will not increase performance / stability when running ICS. Thanks guys

2.3.6 official rom is wonderfull, i prefer it, dont like cooked rooms

saezito said:
2.3.6 official rom is wonderfull, i prefer it, dont like cooked rooms
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Wut?
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saezito said:
2.3.6 official rom is wonderfull, i prefer it, dont like cooked rooms
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Lmao! Wrong thread or this guy is intoxicated! Lol...

[Q] Internal memory of mytouch 4g

It is advertised that the HTC Glacier has a 4GB internal internal memory but instead,it actually has about 1GB of internal memory.
How can I get more memory Space please?
Also,does this phone support 4G network as mentioned in the name?

619batista said:
It is advertised that the HTC Glacier has a 4GB internal internal memory but instead,it actually has about 1GB of internal memory.
How can I get more memory Space please?
Also,does this phone support 4G network as mentioned in the name?
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The internal memory formats out to about 1.1 GB for apps and app data. You can try moving some apps over to your SD card if you're getting low on space.
By "4G" they mean HSPA+. The theoretical max download speed is 14.4 mbps, though you'll never see that. It's as fast as you're going to get on a 2 year old device, though. The fastest I've gotten was slightly over 8 mbps on T-mobile.

I actually should correct myself: the internal memory is advertised as 4GB, but it's less. 768MB is probably used for hibernating, mentioned in another thread.
Since part of the internal memory goes to system (AKA "ROM"), and part (small) goes also to baseband and other partitions, you're left with 1.1GB. Expected, and enough for just about anything.
"4G" has too many meanings, and in marketing only refers to the ability of the device to go over the "3.5G", which is standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, without actually regarding the way it uses (higher speed HSPA or LTE). It's a false use, but it's common and all over the place.

Jack_R1 said:
I actually should correct myself: the internal memory is advertised as 4GB, but it's less. 768MB is probably used for hibernating, mentioned in another thread.
Since part of the internal memory goes to system (AKA "ROM"), and part (small) goes also to baseband and other partitions, you're left with 1.1GB. Expected, and enough for just about anything.
"4G" has too many meanings, and in marketing only refers to the ability of the device to go over the "3.5G", which is standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, without actually regarding the way it uses (higher speed HSPA or LTE). It's a false use, but it's common and all over the place.
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I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.

matada said:
I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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This is true of all myTouch 4G's/Panache's. That's the way memory works.
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matada said:
I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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If you want a phone that doesn't have any OS - you can have it with 768MB of RAM.
If you want Linux OS to run in this memory - it needs a ramdisk for kernel. Which takes memory. Which isn't reported to you, since it's not part of available memory and can't be used. As estallings15 wrote, this is how things work.

matada said:
I've seen the 4gb of storage too. I've also heard that it has 768mb of ram, but the most I see in settings is 620mb no matter what rom.
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Mine reads 768mb in the task manager.
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Possibly ICS/Sense4 thing? Just checked, my GB reads 621MB. In any case it's not like you can use this space, my guess is that it's just the same number being added to counter of total RAM and removed from counter of free RAM, to avoid questions like in this thread. Psychological effect...

About the claming 2GB ram of the Samsung Galaxy S5

Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
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Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~

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Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~
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Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?

user7269464 said:
Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?
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There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android

*Detection* said:
There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android
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oh yeah, that's a good analogy. Thank you!
and how come, I posted the public link pf the pic that I uploaded into my google drive.
btw how did the folks in the forum post the pictures?

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Might need more posts - but normally you upload to an image hosting site, then click the little picture icon above the reply box, and paste the direct image URL into there

user7269464 said:
Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
Thanks!
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2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck

Sam7777777 said:
2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck
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thanks！！