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hi guyz, i have a little question for you
does someone have an hd2 with android witch is overclocked to over 1ghz? 1.5ghz too? and, is it a warried operation or cpu has a low overhead in that situation?
3rd and last question, if i put my hd2 in 1.5ghz mode, and force a bench test, may i broke my hd2 with going upper than cpu Tjunction or there's a system protection witch shuts down all the hardware else the cpu is too close to Tjunction? (like normally pc cpu)
i don't know if snapdragon has system protection, so, i don't want to try to fuse my hd2 (it's my main phone)
and, for users who whant to know, yep, i'm using wp7 because it's smoother than android, but, if i try to use android with that overlock, may it can be smooth like wp7, maybe
and, please, don't say that android is smooth, because it has some micro freeze in the continuity of the animation, and i hate that
thank you for your answers
iba21 said:
hi guyz, i have a little question for you
does someone have an hd2 with android witch is overclocked to over 1ghz? 1.5ghz too? and, is it a warried operation or cpu has a low overhead in that situation?
3rd and last question, if i put my hd2 in 1.5ghz mode, and force a bench test, may i broke my hd2 with going upper than cpu Tjunction or there's a system protection witch shuts down all the hardware else the cpu is too close to Tjunction? (like normally pc cpu)
i don't know if snapdragon has system protection, so, i don't want to try to fuse my hd2 (it's my main phone)
and, for users who whant to know, yep, i'm using wp7 because it's smoother than android, but, if i try to use android with that overlock, may it can be smooth like wp7, maybe
and, please, don't say that android is smooth, because it has some micro freeze in the continuity of the animation, and i hate that
thank you for your answers
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I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2
yz.hd said:
I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2
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are you using it now? in 1.5ghz mode?
yz.hd said:
I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2
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thank you so much
You can set your clock to max, but make a profile to downclock your cpu speed to ~500 MHZ when it heats up.
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You can set your clock to max, but make a profile to downclock your cpu speed to ~500 MHZ when it heats up.
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oh, you could make a profile with downlcloking when cpu goes to a specific temperature?
nice, what's the tjunction of snapdragon? is 50°C too hight?
not sure, to be honest, I don't overclock my device. too scared to do so :/
but when I did overclock it I set the temperature to 41-42 Celsius.
you can tell that I got a lot of high temp warnings, safe is better than sorry.
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are you using it now? in 1.5ghz mode?
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no, not using it, uninstalled it, because it makes my phone randomly reboot + it can brick your phone (little chance for that) but me no like overheating
How to get to 1.5?
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..
Delano.888 said:
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..
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You need a kernel that allows overclocking
Delano.888 said:
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..
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different builds use different kernels, and each support different max CPU speeds. If the kernel supports overclocking, the developer usually mentions than in the first post. Note that Some kernels/builds do not support any kind of overclocking, so the max CPU speed would be ~988 MHz
Just wondering what you are all clocked at
and if stable.
Currently at 1.4 myself and running smooth
MJ-12
I don't even know how to overclock it. Does one need a custom ROM for that or does the stock one suffice? Not that it really matters, I mostly just read comics or books or watch movies on my tablet, none of which needs that much CPU.
Greece during the summer can get quite hot, so it's definitely not a friendly place for overclockers, even desktop rigs can feel the extra heat, so for me, overclocking will not happen for another 3 months minimum. Even now, at stock 3.1 the tablet can get pretty hot when playing some HD games.
I'm sure only root is required but I agree - pushing the cores for nothing more than reading, watching movies or playing already tablet optimized games seems like a pointless endeavor and certainly dangerous to the long term health of the tablet.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I am happily running mine @ 1.6 and very stable with no fc. Did have it higher @ 1.7 but had major problems with reeboots. Benchmark above taken with current rom @1.6
Try "StabilityTest" from the Market to see what your device can handle.
Mine ran 2 hours without problems on 1.5GHz but crashed after 17mins on 1.6GHz.
Running the tablet at 1.5GHz makes a big difference, everything is much more responsive and the browser is way faster.
Can you suggest me the right app to overclock my iconia? And what I have to do to set that apps? I had some doubts with options like "interactive, on demand, ...etc". Which one could give a little bit of stability? I can't find any guide on the internet to understand what these settings change, and which one is the better way to optimize our tablet.
setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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Not sure setcpu works on both cores.
Use the virtuous method it is a new way to overclock and it is faster than using any app...
Lets face it anyone running a rom I am sure it is virtuous something
Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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You are welcome, if you do it right you will love the difference. I use the galaxy Rom tried the 3.2 xoom. But galaxy tab Rom is so nice and very smooth
Goodluck.
MJ-12
just in case people doesnt know
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
but
overclocking does not give you that much improvement...
for sure optimized kernel with slight overclock are running smother than the stock stuck at 1GHz but.... when people are crying to have not enought battery... why overclocking ???? the things who use more battery is the SOC and the SCREEN....
I run for now Stock 4.010.24 with Stock Kernel (I will go back to custom firwmare when all will be ok and stable)
games are running perfectly... when they are dev for the tegra
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the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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What the hell are you babbling about and what does that even have to do with the discussion?
I don't even know if I understand you correctly since you're not even trying to make coherent sentences, but if you're referring to components on the motherboard being loose then there's WAY better ways of fixing that than throwing the whole thing in an oven of any kind. You should NEVER fry the whole motherboard just to fix one or two components that are loose, instead just apply a heatgun on those specific components. Besides, AFAIK none of the issues with A500 are related to loose parts...
His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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My english is not high but I think I was clear, proof someone understand what I was speaking about.
I forgot the most important
ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore can go between 800Mhz and 2Ghz if someone find a way to cool it, well maybe the tablet will go until 2Ghz (reducing the battery life a lot, something near of the W500 ..._)
Ok guys,i got this idea when i saw gpu overclocked kernels for x1.we all know x1 is an winmo device,and its running android from sdcard.and gpu is really highly overclocked,even up to 1000 +mhz.so,i suppose it could be possible for x8.maybie through modules.or we need to wait for bootloader crack.but,since we have amazing devs,i think it could be done.
Maybie someone could pass this to AnDyX and doixanh,so they could see what can be done.
I read about it in one of the module threads.. Said bl needs to be cracked to OC gpu.
I was expecting this.oo,so we have to wait.or,doixanh can make a module.
Yep This damn bl cracking is in the way of so many possibilities
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I read about it in one of the module threads.. Said bl needs to be cracked to OC gpu.
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Whre did you read that?
How can somebody overclock phone gpu to 1000Mhz even if my laptop is only 400Mhz???
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How can somebody overclock phone gpu to 1000Mhz even if my laptop is only 400Mhz???
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Hahahh i was thinking the same, an average pc's GPU has 400Mhz, it's strange )
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Whre did you read that?
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Cant remember. Sorry. Was quite a long time ago.
Im not sure if it can be OC'd to 1000+ but it will be possible once bl is cracked i think
Hi, how can i overclock my tf300t (Clean rom 2.5 oveclock 1.6ghz) to 2.0 Ghz? i read something in the forum but there isn't any kind of guide, i want know if the tablet is stable with this frequency, and if i risk something.
thanks
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Hi, how can i overclock my tf300t (Clean rom 2.5 oveclock 1.6ghz) to 2.0 Ghz? i read something in the forum but there isn't any kind of guide, i want know if the tablet is stable with this frequency, and if i risk something.
thanks
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Why would you need to overclock so high? Do you want it to explode! xD
Seriously though, would probably advise against it. It's like a whole 700/800 MHz higher than it's meant to run at stock. I'd say it would be very unstable, and probably wouldn't get very far battery-life-wise. 1.6GHz really not enough :/
mozyman said:
Why would you need to overclock so high? Do you want it to explode! xD
Seriously though, would probably advise against it. It's like a whole 700/800 MHz higher than it's meant to run at stock. I'd say it would be very unstable, and probably wouldn't get very far battery-life-wise. 1.6GHz really not enough :/
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1.6ghz is ok? or i'll risk something?
I did that speed already. But it is very very unstable. random reboots within 10 minutes of use. also the battery life is very low. and the whole tablet is to hot.
i only was using it to see how fast it could go. that was the max. i am at Cutom Rom - 07/10/2012 - [email protected] Edition V02 - The Ultra Fast Rom - based on last Asus Firmware 10.4.2.13 at this moment.
this is very stable. balanced speed is 1.3 and thats oke. Normal performance speed is 1.6 but i only use that when playing games. You dont need those high speeds for daily use.
If you have the financial means to buy a new tablet - you can try all the time to work on this frequency.
With 1,6ghz i'll risk to break the tablet?
i used 2.0ghz about a week daily use. But now im lowered it to 1.8ghz and it is stable my everyday use. and battery lenght is very good maybe better than stock (i made undervoltage, so cpu uses -50mv less power in any speed than normaly/stock )1.8ghz use 1150mv and lowest speed use 775 mv)
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i used 2.0ghz about a week daily use. But now im lowered it to 1.8ghz and it is stable my everyday use. and battery lenght is very good maybe better than stock (i made undervoltage, so cpu uses -50mv less power in any speed than normaly/stock )1.8ghz use 1150mv and lowest speed use 775 mv)
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on tf300t? what kernel?
anthraxx90 said:
on tf300t? what kernel?
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yep on tf300, and i compiled kernel myself, adding these features on it. So it is no downloadable this moment.
ok, and it's normal random reboot on 1,6 ghz? the problem is voltage or kernel?
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ok, and it's normal random reboot on 1,6 ghz? the problem is voltage or kernel?
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well, if you raise voltage up it may help, but i thing the problem is, that every tablet cpu is "diffrent" than other. This i mean, that these cpu is specsed in other speed than 1.6, 1,8 or 2.0ghz, and some invidiuals might work good in these higher speeds, some get randon reboots / freeze, or some of cpu:s dont even boot higher speeds. (i found out that when few people test my kernel, and it not even booted. And someone it will work fine.) This thing can "cross" by made kernel force cpu speed 1.0ghz at bootup (and i made this my kernel)
Also these tf300 tablet is manufactured atleast couple of diffrent cpu type /cpu id, so kernel have to had support all of these overclocking
It just like computers, some cpu can overclock higher than others, and if you go too high you need extra cooling, and in tablets, it is not possible, like normal pc's
*Most of this is my conclusion only, it may not be 100% accurate truth, but this how i see this thing. And if someone knows better etc, you can correct me *
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well, if you raise voltage up it may help, but i thing the problem is, that every tablet cpu is "diffrent" than other. This i mean, that these cpu is specsed in other speed than 1.6, 1,8 or 2.0ghz, and some invidiuals might work good in these higher speeds, some get randon reboots / freeze, or some of cpu:s dont even boot higher speeds. (i found out that when few people test my kernel, and it not even booted. And someone it will work fine.) This thing can "cross" by made kernel force cpu speed 1.0ghz at bootup (and i made this my kernel)
Also these tf300 tablet is manufactured atleast couple of diffrent cpu type /cpu id, so kernel have to had support all of these overclocking
It just like computers, some cpu can overclock higher than others, and if you go too high you need extra cooling, and in tablets, it is not possible, like normal pc's
*Most of this is my conclusion only, it may not be 100% accurate truth, but this how i see this thing. And if someone knows better etc, you can correct me *
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ok when do you release ur kernel's download? i wanna try
anthraxx90 said:
ok when do you release ur kernel's download? i wanna try
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Well im not home right now, so i dont have any 2.0ghz or 1,8ghz kernel with me, i have only 1.7ghz oc kernel, so you can test it if you want. But just like always, im not taking any responsibility, so test /use it with own risk. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvmti4knwkeflde/Nixu_Kernel_OC_1700_v0.1_alpha.zip
i'm afraid now loool, what would happen exactly?
after flashing the kernel is locked to the screen asus, does not want to start
That won't happen I flashed it
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Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
TheMadScientist said:
Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Sorry I didn't specify things. I do mean the exynos version. There are some kernels that lift the 2,3 max freq to 2,65 GHz, but know that some S7 kernels climb to 2,9 GHz. So (in my book) that means the S8 should be able to overclock to 3 GHz (cause of the base A73 base of the 2nd gen mongoose cores and 10nm footprint).
So I'm just curious if it's not possible or there is some other reason why none are doing this.
And with underclocking I meant adding freqs that are below the standard lowest freq, my bad. (Don't how to call it otherwise)
Battery life.....
Battery life mainly.
Through overclocking, sure you can make s8 run as fast as oneplus considering s8's heavy skin, but most of us would rather see 6-8 hours of SOT with 24 hours of usage than our app opening 1-2 seconds faster.
Saying that, there are plenty of debloated roms for s8 that can run faster/smoother than the stock without sacrificing the battery life.
So, as for your question, maybe the devs don't want to put too much effort on overclocking an already pretty fast processor or underclocking an already pretty efficient processor. I am not a dev so can't really talk about complicated codings and stuff.
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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This! Says it all.
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The S8 is fast enough on its own. I never even OC'd my S6. I find Exynos processors to be really fast as-is.
It's true, I dont't see any practical use for overclocking, yet. It would be purely for the fun of it. I'm sure we will see it more in the future, when some more hardware-heavy Games will be released.
Undervolting on the other surprises me aswell, to not see it frequently. Because, although it's totally fine right now, batterylife and efficiency can always be better.
I'm curious if we will see more Devs include this in their ROMs and Kernels
I agree with all the above. I called either due to snapdragon but I wouldn't even i if I could. I actually limit the clock speed on my big CPUs because the higher clock rates eat more power.
Also, why? Just why? Looking at cpu usage on my s8, the only time I've seen it actually pegged was running benchmarks. Overclocking is absolutely useless if the variable cpu clock never goes to 100% for more than milliseconds. Why do something so potentially dangerous for nothing?
:good::good::good:Well put guys:good::good::good:
I cant overclock but i still have set cpu and use it to underclock (when the screen is off) but most kf the time it is underclocked if it is not playing a game or ram extensive app
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why you overclock GTX 2080? Why you overclock i9 or amd threadripper 2950x cpu? Why you overclock DDR4 3000MHZ Ram? Why you use 3DMark? Or cinebench or, or or........
Thats all the same.
To everyone asking "Why??", I find it rather odd that you don't know already...
The reason why some of us like (want) to overclock, or undervolt, is the exact same reason we're all on this site: We like to TWEAK STUFF!
Doesn't matter if it's rooting, flashing a custom ROM, creating a unique theme, coding a new app. All of those boil down to the same human instinct to explore, to make things better, or make new things. Whether or not it's needed is completely irrelevant
Using your logic, there's no reason to have a custom kernel in the first place, nevermind rooting your phone, or having custom ROM. The phone worked fine the way it was, after all, right?
In closing, the motto "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is what the lay people adhere to. We who are more inclined in certain aspects of life (such as the XDA community) live by another: "If it ain't broke, tweak it!", or if you rather "If it ain't broke, tweak it till it does, then fix it!"
Please add over/underclocking and over/under volting for CPU and GPU cores to every kernel, for every device that allows it! We already except blame if anything bad should come to our device the moment we decide to root and/or flash something, so why not give us every single capability available for the devices and leave it up to us to do what we so choose? :good:
[Naturally, this is based on the assumption that a device lacks a bootloader, and the kernel maker possesses the knowledge; thus, this is referring to those situations where both apply.]
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To be faster than other team who is performance tuning as well. You don't have to do it because not everyone is doing. It should be geared towards to people who really care. Like others in this thread mention battery life but people like me wants it faster.
Also I game with the phone connected to charger all the time. I don't really game on the go though if I did I would bring portable battery if someone driving me. That just me.
People like me use phones for emulation. GameCube games are almost at the right speed but do run just a bit to slow in some location rendering them unpleasant to play. A bit more of cpu power would certainly make " Wind waker " run at constant 30 FPS. I hope this topic to be revived
Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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Well tbh i dont know but this has always been. A thing with exynos chips , yeah some developers go out of their way and write some stuff from scratch to make it work you know
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Yeah has been realesed a2n kernel oc up to 2,8 ghz and oc up to 839mhz all of them is all core