I was just wondering why Google chose LG over Samsung. Had the Samsung Galaxy Nexus last year. Sold it for SG3. Big mistake. Even though I like SG3, not a Nexus. Will not do the same thing next year. I am keeping my Nexus.
Good question.
You never know Samsung and HTC might release their own version.
Because LG got from Quallcom to put the S4 Pro quicker than any HUGE manufacturer, they have the best screen out there, and letting Samsung doing the Nexus phone 3rd time a row?! Its rowing what Google is trying to do... And, they made the Nexus 10.
Thank god that Nexus is not a Samsung-plastic-crap! Samsung should really work on the material!
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Thank god that Nexus is not a Samsung-plastic-crap! Samsung should really work on the material!
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+1!
This phone is covered gorilla glass 2 all over it!
LG, you should make all of your phones Nexus-Like! Stock android experience, quick updates, and release all sources!
Compared to my Sensation 4g...the screen (glass) and outer shell of the phone was so soft and fragile. Betting my $350 that there will be better materials used on the N4.
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Thank god that Nexus is not a Samsung-plastic-crap! Samsung should really work on the material!
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I personally wouldn't be considering one if it was ANOTHER Samsung.
Besides. Samsung did a Nexus 10 anyway.
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+1!
This phone is covered gorilla glass 2 all over it!
LG, you should make all of your phones Nexus-Like! Stock android experience, quick updates, and release all sources!
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Cool. Who cares about gorilla glass? It HELPS prevent scratches. Not cracks. Plus Samsung made a good product, LG WILL ruin it, I guarantee it.
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Why do you think LG will ruin it?
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Cool. Who cares about gorilla glass? It HELPS prevent scratches. Not cracks. Plus Samsung made a good product, LG WILL ruin it, I guarantee it.
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Galaxy Nexus was already dated on its launch - old GPU from Nexus S etc. LG Nexus 4 got great hw and is much better today than GN was one year ago. Besides Samsung didnt made first Nexus, but HTC did.
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Because of the failure that is the Optimus 2X..
Funny, how all it takes is a company to make one great product to change everyone's opinion. People hated the idea of a Samsung nexus as well, especially after the Galaxy S 1 debacle. Sammy improved the devices despite still having the radio issues and everybody loves Sammy now. LG looks to have made a solid device, well see how it holds up in real world usage, if its halfway decent, people will love LG too...
Hate the resolution, the 1280x768. Youtube won't be fullscreen, 720p, 1080p won't be full screen, it will have some black bars, which isn't bad but it does annoy me. But the drawer now consist of 5 icons a row, doesn't look nice compared to the standard 4, suppose a dpi change will fix that.
Don't get why users are hating on plastic or poly carbonate but yet Nokia 'Lumia' are getting praise for using that material. I prefer having poly carbonate than Gorilla glass, since when you drop it, it'll crack, whereas plastic wouldn't crack as bad and you'll have to get a glass replacement etc (iPhone style).
The display contrast is bad, don't know why it was hyped up that bad. The LG Optimus G has around 1,800 contrast whereas iPhone 5, Asus Padfone 2, S3 are all over 3,xxx. Watch users complain 'it's more natural', no it isn't, it'll be more washed out compared to the other screens. Unless the LG Nexus 4 deploys something with more 'contrast' in there True HD IPS.
Thats all the things I dislike about it well maybe the crappy low storage as well but I might be getting the Nexus 4, £279 for a spec like this, can't really go wrong.
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Galaxy Nexus was already dated on its launch - old GPU from Nexus S etc. LG Nexus 4 got great hw and is much better today than GN was one year ago. Besides Samsung didnt made first Nexus, but HTC did.
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On paper, in day to day use my galaxy nexus can do everything. It can play Nova 3, dead trigger on high, with pushing the HD scree
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Galaxy Nexus was already dated on its launch - old GPU from Nexus S etc. LG Nexus 4 got great hw and is much better today than GN was one year ago. Besides Samsung didnt made first Nexus, but HTC did.
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False. While the GPU used in the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus shared the same name, they offered vastly different performance levels. The PowerVR SGX540 in the Galaxy Nexus was significantly overclocked compared to the version in the Galaxy S/Nexus S, and was tied to much faster RAM.
Qualcomm did the same thing this past year. They took the Adreno 220, bumped the speed from 266mhz to 400mhz, then paired it with faster RAM. Instead of keeping the same name like PowerVR did, they renamed it the Adreno 225 to avoid confusion.
The GPU in the Galaxy Nexus, at the time if release last year, was among the fastest out there. It didn't have the fill-rate of the Mali-400 inside the sGS2, but it had much better geometric performance, making it a better GPU for real-world games. It's still more than adequate today.
I'm not picky on materials as long as the construction feels tight. Smooth plastic, matte plastic, glass, whatever. The only thing I am kind of partial to is brush aluminum (a delight that I still enjoy about my beater Captivate).
Maybe because Samsung would of insisted on Exynos rather than the superior S4! And it would of been cheap plastic
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Also no more crappy AMOLED screens so thats good
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Maybe because Samsung would of insisted on Exynos rather than the superior S4! And it would of been cheap plastic
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Dual a15s like in the nexus 10 would have been just as fast or faster. I would have liked those
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Maybe because Samsung would of insisted on Exynos rather than the superior S4! And it would of been cheap plastic
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Dual a15s like in the nexus 10 would have been just as fast or faster. I would have liked those
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I think Google picks the SOC. Look no further than the Galaxy Nexus, which used OMAP when Samsung was keen on using Exynos. I'm pretty sure the only reason Exynos 5 was used over Snapdragon S4 for the Nexus 10 was due to the GPU. Adreno 320 is overrated. It's marginally faster than the Mali-400MP in the SGS3/Note II in most benchmarks, much faster in some, but has a beefier CPU behind it. In GPU-specific tests they come out much closer, which tells me that the GPU isn't as powerful as some think. Mali-T604 (Exynos 5), however, is MUCH faster than both. That was needed to power a 2560x1600 display.
As for the CPU component, DMIPS is the easiest and most accurate way to measure general power between ARM CPUs. Snapdragon S4 uses Krait (3.3 DMIPs/clock), while Exynos 5 uses Cortex A15 (3.5 DMIPS/clock). At 1.5ghz and 1.7ghz respectfully, that puts the Snapdragon S4 pro at 4,950 DMIPS per core, or 19,800 DMIPS total. The Exynos 5, however, cranks out 5,950 DMIPS per core, or 11,900 DMIPS total. However, there are two caveats here;
1. Mobile apps are predominantly single-threaded, so even in a heavy (by mobile standards) multi-tasking environment, you're not going to make much use of those third and fourth cores. For apps that use 1-2 cores, Exynos comes out on top.
2. Krait is asynchronous, and A15 is synchronous. For an environment that is heavy on multiple processes, you'll want synchronous, which is likely why so many of the Windows RT tablets announced last week use Tegra 3 (Cortex A9) over Krait.
Related
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4135&idPhone2=3621
What is your opinions about those new phones?
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why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
look at the weight... galaxy s2 is still the lightest of them
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why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
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I'm guessing their going with Qualcomm because atm, their chip is the only one that supports LTE (at least in the US). Samsung might be working on an Exynos chip that can handle LTE but that hasn't been announced yet.
The Note is sporting a 1.4Ghz Exynos processor. Sexy beast w/ the Super Amoled HD screen! 5.3in. Screen, gorgeous!
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I did read somewhere Note comes with Exynos chip clocked at 1.4 ghz and surely has LTE
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html
I mind says choose S II LTE while the heart says its got to be Note.
All three are the best in class smartphones. May be I could keep all three
I hope it will be a Galaxy S III
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Hmm, i don't feel like hitting the like button. My GS2 running at [email protected] with the official Samsung extended battery feels no envy at all
The soc is still the same afaik, this sounds like a cheap screen size buff to me. Anyway i'm pretty sure this will sell well in the US: it seems like people don't mind carrying a desktop pc in their pockets there
My galaxy s2 probably still in my pocket.
If Galaxy Note has stereo mic with noise reduction and can be installed voodoo control and it's super amoled hd plus i can sell my gs2 and buy it.
But i don't think it has all of them.. maybe none.
Hope for Nexus Prime...
The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
I'll keep my s2, not only because its new but more into my needs of the device.
Its a different things with an improvement from the 7 to 7'7gtab
Its an art of technology development
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As you undoubtedly know, samsung has said Note will not be released in the US
Sgs2 screen is big enough and I cant see development being anywhere near as big for the others. Android runs smooth as butter with the sgs2 anyways. Cant see any reason in the near future for an upgrade
How about having a Wolfson audio chip inside Galaxy Note !!! with 5.3 inch screen it looks gorgeous. Well my biggest question is SUPER AMOLED PLUS vs SUPER AMOLED HD. I am sure letters are more readable with 285 ppi on the HD screen but what about the colors are they as bright as PLUS on HD screen. I hope so.
With a Wolfson audio chip and Super saturated HD screen i would go for the Galaxy Note. I love big screen's.
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The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
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Be aware that there'se an official 2000mah battery for the GS2: it's doesn't even add bulk, it just makes the phone all thick as it already is at its bottom. I got it today and it rocks. Too bad the phone doesn't fit anymore in the case now...
GSG2 LTE sounds good. I can't wait til its released. I hoping it works on ATT. Didn't get SGS2 but kind of glad now. We have LTE launched in Houston but i don't know how good it is. Anyways still going to try it out once released.
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all three size comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLlciuWyj6k
Seriously,if Note is better anyway, I will probably wait for nexus Prime
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Im looking forward to NOTE, if i like it (and its size) when i take it in my hands, its very likely that ill give my SGS2 to my girl and take NOTE for me
dont forget the note has a higher resoloution and bigger screen to power and its also overclocked to 1.4ghz with probably quite high voltages
i would say you may get equal battery life out of the sgs2 with 2000mah battery and overclocking and undervolting
of course that only matters if you want the note for the battery i can see the appeal of the device it would make so many things even better like media viewing , web browsing , sat nav etc but at the same time it may be just to big for my pockets i would have to hold it before making that judgement though saying that i am happy with my sgs2 and dont see the point in upgrading , its just a sideways step there will be much better coming real soon and they will be forwards steps like quad core etc
i dont think with that screen the battery will be much different to the 2000mah genuine one that you can buy for the sgs2 this device will rock for people who want an even bigger sgs2 though good too see samsung covering all aspects of the market
or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
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Just consider two things :
1, do you really need A pen?
2, do you really need a super big phone screen?
If you answer is no then buy Galaxy Nexus.
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or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
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Thinking, software vs. hardware? Hardware on Note is 5x better, but Galaxy Nexus has new and best software 3 months earlier than galaxy Note. I'll choose Note, because i don't have rush to get the Icecream Sandwich. Just my opinion...
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Consider also three other things :
- Do you need large storage (Nexus deos not have a microSD card)
- Do you need radio FM (Nexus does not have it)
- Do you need ICS (Note does not have it ... yet)
Well, I don't need a pen but I think I would have used it (seems like a good idea)
and big screen is nice, since I always carring my phone in the belt..
- I have also not used up my 16 GB SD card on my Nexus One, so I probably won't need more than 16GB but nice to have the opportunity..
- No need for FM radio..
- This point is where I am not sure.. ICS really looks nice and not having to wait for Samsung to get new releases is also be positive..
Damn theses decisions.....
BTJ
Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.
It's a question of hardware versus software
Nexus is a Galaxy S 2 with software improvements and slightly different hardware. Design and look has been updated. Larger screen size is because there are no longer buttons on the bottom. These buttons are now in the OS. So you still have about the same size screen maybe slightly more because the width is slightly larger. Nexus does not have 3G data bands. It does have HSPU and LTE as well as 2G data and 3G voice. The processor and graphics hardware is different. Possibly better than Galaxy S 2. It is still 1.2 ghz dual core. It has Android 4.0, the latest and greatest software, with a host of new features. Nexus has Lotus glass and a higher resolution screen than GS2 as well as NFC.
The Note has a significantly larger 5.3" screen, 1.4 ghz dual core processor, and stylus. It has 3G data & voice as well as HSPU. You will probably be able to get Android 4.0 and almost all its features through a custom rom within a month or two after launch.
The rule is buy for hardware. You will be able to put Android 4.0 on the Galaxy S 2 shortly. I already own a Galaxy S 2 and the hardware is very similar so I would not be getting a whole more with the Nexus. If you do not have the GS2, the Nexus would be a good upgrade for you. With the Note I do have better hardware than GS2, so I'm buying that. One other consideration is size. The Note is big. Really big.
Amen. I didn't regret my purchase for a single second.
And I don't mind to wait another two or three months for ICS so the first bugs are already ironed out.
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Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.
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Hmmm... Maybe I should "settle" for the Note then... And I guess NFC it still years to go before in active use....
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I need Galaxy Note. But I need the NFC feature. I can't understand what does the "Optional" mean in some Spec.
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lol... Don't make me want more the Note, you lucky bastard already have it...
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LOL! You're just plain mean
I'm watching the video of the Note release and right in the beginning they also mention the Nexus, and the fact that the Nexus is being released with Ice Cream Sandwich at launch - why isn't the Note also being released on that platform? Makes me curious as to whether or not ICS will never come to the Note - I've already been involved in an innovative platform that never evolved (Garmin iQue 3600), I'm going to be very disappointed if the Note goes the same way....
I've been debating between these 2 and I think it's a no brainer.
If the size of the note isn't an issue for you then it's the note, it's a bigger and high res screen and has far more grunt CPU and GPU.
I haven't yet seen proof that the nexus can display 720p video on full screen (on honeycomb the buttons could not be hidden apart from with a root app).
The only thing the nexus has over it is ICS and I would be amazed if the note didnt get that this year.
"Most importantly, though, the brains of the operation is the OMAP4460 application processor which has two Cortex-A9 cores clocked at 1.2GHz — quite fast, certainly, but it isn’t the 1.5GHz Exynos that we were hoping for.
It is because of the OMAP4460 processor that the Galaxy Nexus will only have the PowerVR SGX540 GPU, an antiquated beast from 2007 that can actually be found underneath the hood of last year’s Nexus S, and in the Droid Bionic. The SGX540 is very weak compared to the Mali-400 GPU found in Samsung’s Exynos SoC (the one that powers the Galaxy S II), and it’s positively snail-paced against the Apple A5′s SGX543MP2."
Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.
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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?
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Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.
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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?
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I paid 472€ ~$650 thanks to a special promotion code. Normally its 550€ here in Germany ~$760!
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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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No, I know the Note is first, but if you watch that video, the European release of the Nexus was happening at the same time - so they're very close in release date.
funny that they say rollout is 29th and today (28th) many people already got their note
Hey everyone!
So as we all now know, the galaxy s III is coming to sprint by the 21st, and many of us are considering moving to the SIII for our upgrade. I personally hope to get one on the first when my upgrade hits. How bout u guys? Would u switch? Have u already decided? Why or why not? What r u most excited for? What will u miss from the NS4G? Any thoughts welcome!
I'm personally very excited to experience its speed, camera, and huge screen as primary things, with the other enhancements coming in second
How bout u?
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Yea im definitely getting it in white. I'm miss the dev community tho... and fergies ports. I know it get an awesome community.
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Totally getting one through my work but I'm upset its not going to be the quad core version. North America got screwed out of that in favour of LTE speeds. Anyone know how the dual core will benchmark compared to the quad exoynos?
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I pre ordered the gs3 within 5 minutes of sprint putting up the pre order page. So yes, I am getting excited about this phone. This is kind of unusual for me because I don't normally get excited over release dates.
I am looking forward to pretty much the same things as you. The big screen, more speed, 2gb ram and I miss the memory card slot I lost when coming to the ns4g.
There is really only one concern I have and that's with having to use Odin. I have many bad experiences with odin and even the thought of using it again gives me a little apprehension.
I can only hope I like the gs3 as much as I have the ns4g.
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I ordered mine about 2 min after Skunk ape. I've never had an issue with Odin myself and consider it an advantage of the Galaxy phones.
Yea I hear ya, personally I've had great experience with Odin so I'm not too concerned about that...I haven't pre ordered the phone only cause my upgrade isn't till the first . The dev community should be great since it seems to be getting supercharged with some of the best of the xda community going to it . I'm going for pebble blue myself, the white seems too glossy and not elegant, I love the way the finish on the blue looks, but of course gotta see it first
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I'd like one but no upgrade for me until November. If I can nab one off eBay for a good price, I'll buy one. Otherwise, I'll be using my Nexus until it fails.
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Totally getting one through my work but I'm upset its not going to be the quad core version. North America got screwed out of that in favour of LTE speeds. Anyone know how the dual core will benchmark compared to the quad exoynos?
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Benchmarks are so close you won't notice a difference. The dual core used has wider cores to allow more information to be passed through. The quad core doesn't have that technology yet so we're actually better off. Plus better battery life
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Yeah - I will also change my phone in a month or so.Nexus S is good but i think it is very slow and sluggish now due to ICS.I'll switch to GNex and save money for next nexus phone.
I'm going to hold off at least until the next nexus phones.
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I'm going to hold off at least until the next nexus phones.
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same here. my upgrade is not until aug & with the news that there will be 5 nexus phones... i think waiting to see the competition for a fresh jelly bean phone will be my best bet
My thoughts are touchjizz sucks and since sammy is sooo amazingly fast with updates and always releases their kernel source.
Haha, now that joke times over, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole!!!!
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Galaxy S III!!!
I love my nexus s 4g ever since cyanogenmod 9 has a stable version my phone has not messed up too much. i experienced 2 random reboots in the last 3 weeks. battery life is good. I was gonna go with the galaxy note because of the 5.3' screen but since i seen the galaxy S III even though the screen is only 4.8' it's better than my 4' screen. another thing that snagged me was not that it's not gonna be dual core it's the fact that it's gonna be the first phone with 2gb of RAM it might be a little sacrifice from the quad core it was supposed to be released with. to me i think the galaxy S III will be a great phone. yes they have bugs but everyone knows the verry first set of phones will have issues. thank god my contract ends this november so this way i can save up get the $250 32gb version and only pay $50 with my $150 discount and also i will be able to get some accessories for it like the wireless charger because that is set to come out 3 months from now. since my contract ends in november i will be able to get it. another thing that got my attention to galaxy S III is that they use gorilla glass 2 on it so it can protect against cracks. And when i get the phone they might have better accessories released by then like cases skins and maybe the otter box. i used to own the htc evo 4g but i went through 3 of them cause i had the white one so sprint said at the corp. store do u want to wait until another evo 4 comes in or do you want to take the nexus s 4g so i took it and ever since i did i like samsung smartphones now the camera runs better and smoother than that crappy htc ones they suck. well this is my reason to switch to Galaxy S III i hope u liked it.
Haha what a response, but very realistic and full . Thanks for that! Tho I must warn you that actually with an upgrade it is 200 dollars, so unless ur getting 150 from selling ur nexus, don't expect ur upgrade to get it lower, since 199 is the price after applying upgrade numbers; outside upgrade it is higher than 500 dollars.
To respond to the one who asked about quadrant and speed in quad v dual, I've read many many reports on the issue and it seems that the snapdragon s4 coming to the U.S. actually tends to outperform the quad in most areas, proving that more isn't always better. Also the s4 is based on a newer chip architecture than the quad as another person mentioned earlier. This means not only do we get an edge in the whole technology and in speed, performance, etc, but we also get a nice battery boost vs the international version because 2 cores takes less to operate than 4, S4 is also more power efficient, and finally, we have a really nice battery not to mention 2gbs of ram, so I personally expect highly impressive battery results, even with it being an lte phone, since at launch lte will be off anyway, giving us the performance boost and battery boost of the dual core, newer s4, more ram, all on a highly loaded battery built to handle a quad or a dual with lte on.
Does that make sense? U see how its practically a win win for us?
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I'm probably gonna hold off until the next Nexus device. I'm really curious as to what the next Nexus device will look like. Hopefully by then the prices will drop for the three year term (yes...I'm in Canada -_-).
I waited on the Nexus S and it ended up being a single core device with specs identical to the Galaxy S released about one month before the first dual core phones.
So I waited until MWC 2011 to see what the SGS 2 would look like, as I was excited for that. I wasn't let down, aside from the lack of resolution update. But no AWS for a long time and when the T-Mo version came out it wasn't even the same device anymore.
I got a cheap Nexus S and so I waited on Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus. It looked amazing externally, but internally the specs were anemic. Most of the performance gains were software based, and basic things like camera were a downgrade.
So I waited on SGS 3, thinking THIS WOULD BE IT. Nope.
It's literally an SGS2 HD with two extra cores and overclocked gpu. It also looks far inferior to the Galaxy Nexus and even the SGS 2 - not that I care about aesthetics much but glossy plastic? Really?? One X has it beat on display quality and aesthetics, but unfortunately lacks microsd, removeable battery and has inferior camera.
Software is something that both OEMs pimped, and would be the first thing I would remove.
Next Nexus device is that low cost Tegra 3 asus tablet coming next month, after that who knows? I want to see what the Sony "Mint" superphone is, as well as the first LG phone with their new 5" 1080p panel.
Once again, my "next phone" is another 4-6 months out.
Being techbeard is suffering.
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I waited on the Nexus S and it ended up being a single core device with specs identical to the Galaxy S released about one month before the first dual core phones.
So I waited until MWC 2011 to see what the SGS 2 would look like, as I was excited for that. I wasn't let down, aside from the lack of resolution update. But no AWS for a long time and when the T-Mo version came out it wasn't even the same device anymore.
I got a cheap Nexus S and so I waited on Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus. It looked amazing externally, but internally the specs were anemic. Most of the performance gains were software based, and basic things like camera were a downgrade.
So I waited on SGS 3, thinking THIS WOULD BE IT. Nope.
It's literally an SGS2 HD with two extra cores and overclocked gpu. It also looks far inferior to the Galaxy Nexus and even the SGS 2 - not that I care about aesthetics much but glossy plastic? Really?? One X has it beat on display quality and aesthetics, but unfortunately lacks microsd, removeable battery and has inferior camera.
Software is something that both OEMs pimped, and would be the first thing I would remove.
Next Nexus device is that low cost Tegra 3 asus tablet coming next month, after that who knows? I want to see what the Sony "Mint" superphone is, as well as the first LG phone with their new 5" 1080p panel.
Once again, my "next phone" is another 4-6 months out.
Being techbeard is suffering.
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Honestly all the specs we could've expected came in the s3 aside from things like flexible display, which were really not ready for production anyway. As for plastic design? See the blue, and hold it before you say it feels cheap. And it is far from an HD sgsii. Granted its not as far of a boost but we shouldn't have expected another amazing jump, nonetheless this is quite an uograde, and as u showed, the siii wins out because of things like removabale battery, tho build quality is generally better on htc, Samsung has an impressive galaxy track record not to mention the development aspects of being able to use odin vs struggling aginst s off
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I waited on the Nexus S and it ended up being a single core device with specs identical to the Galaxy S released about one month before the first dual core phones.
So I waited until MWC 2011 to see what the SGS 2 would look like, as I was excited for that. I wasn't let down, aside from the lack of resolution update. But no AWS for a long time and when the T-Mo version came out it wasn't even the same device anymore.
I got a cheap Nexus S and so I waited on Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus. It looked amazing externally, but internally the specs were anemic. Most of the performance gains were software based, and basic things like camera were a downgrade.
So I waited on SGS 3, thinking THIS WOULD BE IT. Nope.
It's literally an SGS2 HD with two extra cores and overclocked gpu. It also looks far inferior to the Galaxy Nexus and even the SGS 2 - not that I care about aesthetics much but glossy plastic? Really?? One X has it beat on display quality and aesthetics, but unfortunately lacks microsd, removeable battery and has inferior camera.
Software is something that both OEMs pimped, and would be the first thing I would remove.
Next Nexus device is that low cost Tegra 3 asus tablet coming next month, after that who knows? I want to see what the Sony "Mint" superphone is, as well as the first LG phone with their new 5" 1080p panel.
Once again, my "next phone" is another 4-6 months out.
Being techbeard is suffering.
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Do not touch an LG phone
Best advice I can give you
And okay what did u expect the gs3 to be a 8 core monster with 4gb of ram and a double retina display that can do 4d
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I thought a lot of jumping in the Galaxy S3 but my Nexus S4G still great so I'm just going to hold out for the next Nexus this late fall or winter & if sprint doesn't improve with this network vision I'm off to T-Mobile faster speeds with there Hspa+ I've been with Sprint for 10 years!! Back on subject the Galaxy S3 is going to be a great phone with tons of Roms remember this time all of the carriers Galaxies will be identical except a few things like radios & apps so it be great to develop & port things all have same name no more E4GT or S2 skyrocket just Galaxy S3 pick a color & carrier they will also have sane CPU, gpu 2gb ram identical
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i used it in the showroom, its awesome .. go for it blindly
Honestly nothing from what I've seen at ces 2013 regarding mobile makes me want it over my note2.
Anybody else feel the same?
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I feel like "impressive" works on a 2 year cycle. Android and iPhones.
iPhone 4, big leap -> 4s, marginal upgrade -> 5, big leap (performance wise)
- 2010 saw a slew of ~1ghz, 512mb powerhouses that blew away the old 528mhz phones of 2009.
- 2011 saw a marginally faster dual core, mostly 512mb phones limited by RAM.
- 2012 saw incredible dual and quad core, 2gb phones that completely blew away 2011 phones.
- 2013 will see slightly different Tegra 4's, Exynos, and Snapdragons that boast impressive numbers but will be paired with 1 and 2gb RAM phones and see little to no real world performance differences.
- 2014 will see phones that are an enormous upgrade from 2013.
Just my thoughts. I bought my Note II to carry me into mid-late 2014, because I believe this to be true.
nothing interesting for now, very happy with 720P display because i think that 1080P display will consume a lot of battery and we will not notice any difference
The good things that i saw : The Tegra and Snapdragon cpu and the 13 MP camera on some devices but i will not change my Note 2 for this.
A dual core processor is enough now and we have quad core with a great battery life
Wholeheartedly agree with both of you. But I don't really understand why some manufacturers focus on a high number of camera megapixels, I'd rather have better optics and camera hardware than the ability to make large posters.
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Same here. I wish manufacturers could spend more time on system optimization, UI design or software development rather than racing specs.
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Wholeheartedly agree with both of you. But I don't really understand why some manufacturers focus on a high number of camera megapixels, I'd rather have better optics and camera hardware than the ability to make large posters.
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because ordinary buyer doesnt care about optics, they need higher numbers of everything and then they show their e-penis.... ;D
full hd display for smartphone? nah for me note 2 hd RGB display is more than enough, not so power hungry and display is gorgeous.
Note II is my first smartphone, and so far I think it'll last me for at least until 2014. And I won't submit into peer pressure when S4 arrives, but I hope I won't be too jealous when Note III comes out. After all, it's just 7 more months until the next IFA
After having phones since 1994, I can say the Note 2 is finally my perfect device.
The screen is brilliant, and the audio is sublime with the hack brovided by EdgaBimbam.
Can't think of anything close to the Note 2 right now!
The Xperia Yuga (Z) is getting focus, but Sony phones have major battery issues due to lack of optimization and a very power hungry out of date LCD.
Keith
And yet all of you are lining up to buy new Galaxy S 4 or Note 3 next year
But yeah its true that neither of them was revealed at the CES
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It's better that I haven't seen anything attractive in CES. All these money sucking toys will give me some time to gather more, lol. The only thing interested me is the Sony OLED T.V.
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You are correct but apart from that most of the flagship phones like s4 and htc and others weren't there.
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i liked the look of the new sony xperia Z, im not lusting after it though.
okay I stand corrected. I just saw the Lenovo K900 and video and all I can say is wow. And some impressive specs.
The most interesting part for me is the announcement of octa core, thats just wow, s4 and note 3 will come with it.
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i liked the look of the new sony xperia Z, im not lusting after it though.
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i thought it was a embarrassment compared to the note 2, i compared the specs and the only thing the xperia Z has against the note 2 is a better camera.
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The most interesting part for me is the announcement of octa core, thats just wow, s4 and note 3 will come with it.
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It wont come with s4/note3. With s5/note4 it should be included
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the only thing the xperia Z has against the note 2 is a better camera.
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and it won't break, oh sorry, shatter, from a 3 ft fall
I like the Sony Xperia Z as well as the ZTE Grand S.
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and it won't break, oh sorry, shatter, from a 3 ft fall
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And its water resistant up to 1 meter, great for those who use their phones while on the toilet haha.
Would be keen to hold the Huawei 6.1" to see how bigger it feels than the note ii.
The most exciting thing at CES for me is the Oculus Rift. Not mobile I know, but it looks pretty awesome.
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality
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so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
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Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Agreed!
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC