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Sprint May Get The iPhone 4?? :0

This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Hoping the paper boy comes by to give me some good newsssss.....
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Dan Hesse would probably get on his knees for the iPhone. $69.99 for the iPhone 4 on the Everything Data plan would take Sprint to new heights.

I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?

Ill get the iphone i used to have it when i was on att

uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You bring up a good point. I can't see how they could justify a $10 fee on a 3G phone. Lets pretend that the iPhone is a sure thing if they want it, I could see them either being greedy as hell and attaching the fee anyway, or not carrying it until there's a 4G version. If it's the latter, you probably wont see a iPhone on Sprint until they (if they every)change to LTE or Apple includes a WiMax version (which is unlikely).

We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."

novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Hmmm. You might be able to swap the ESN of a Sprint smartphone and get away with it. Of course it'd be illegal to do that.

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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...

edgemaster191 said:
Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.

Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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lol not doubting there will be an LTE iPhone, just saying they will make some huge announcement about how it's the greatest thing ever and brand it in someway that will make it look like they developed LTE/4G from the ground up, meanwhile they're the last one to the 4G party

Noiro said:
Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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CDMA doesn't have SIM cards (well at least not here). You have to activate your phone via the carrier and ESN number of the phone. Sprint will only activate ESNs that are in their system (just Sprint phones).

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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It's easy with gsm phones cuz of sim cards (except the iPhone). We have phone specific esn numbers attached to Sprint's network.
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Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.

uniquenameevo said:
The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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That's the iPhone product cycle in general. There were probably a ton of people who bought AT&T iPhone 4's today despite the looming unveiling of the iPhone 5.

Funny how my thread got epically trashed by noobs and trolls, yet this thread that is discussing the same thing seems clean. inb4 trolls log on and start acting like retards.
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
The only reason ESN was even made illegal was to stop people siphoning money from the companies and such, but since you own both the device and the service plan, i dont think they can do anything to you. And im pretty sure if the cdma iphone were to be dropped, it would be unlocked within matter of hours, and then modified for sprint and all the other cdma services within a matter of days.
What i want to know, is if someone can actually hardmod the phone to enable sprint wimax, or verizon lte on it? (most likely not since iOS is closed source, but still possible)

Last-Chance said:
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Changing the ESN is a very gray area. BUT changing the operating frequency of a transmitter is a whole other ball of wax(which you would going between Sprint, and Verizon or AT&T, and T-Mobile. Once you change the operating frequency that the transmitter was certified for it loses it's FCC Type Acceptance. It is no longer in the eyes of the FCC a legal phone. Now doing it to equipment on bands outside the cellphone allocations the FCC really doesn't monitor, or enforce unless someone complains. Fart around on aircraft, cellphone, and govt/military you will be paid a very personal visit by an FCC agent (and in this day and age the local swat team, and reps from various three lettered agencies).
FYI the only FCC licensed radio operator that can modify transmitters (or build for their personal use) for operation (within spec) on their allocated frequencies are Radio Amateurs. Once that radio has been modded it can no longer be used outside the Radio Amateur Bands.

Galaxy Nexus Coming to Sprint

http://briefmobile.com/sprint-nexus-prime-coming-soon
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I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?

strifejester said:
I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?
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sprint announced lte starting q1 2012

Sprint Will Be Getting The Galaxy Nexus.
With out a doubt Sprint will be getting the new nexus phone as all the main wireless company's in the US will be. There are two models HSPA models will go to T-mobile and AT&T and the LTE models will be on Verizon and Sprint, anyone to think otherwise wouldn't be smart to think sprint has already does this in the past with the Nexus S 4G while it advertised it being the first and only usable NFC Compatible phone but nobody in theory could actually use the NFC feature of the phone until they had updated it to version 2.3.7 and gave u Google Wallet and Google Shopper. Sprint has stated that they are going to be very aggressive setting up LTE in 2012 to try to be on par with Verizon somewhat with 4G so its all makes sense if u really think about it..

Sprint announced LTE for next summer with it's first LTE devices launching next summer as well.

strifejester said:
I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?
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Wow hater. All major carriers and a few not so major carriers are getting the phone. Just like the SGS2...

looks like they might release the phone then launch lte? I hope LTE will be unlimited

Samsung/Google already dropped the ball in not releasing this device (or having a press event for it) before the iPhone4S was released. The best they can do now to salvage their product in the public's eye is to release it on as many carriers as possible.

im waiting for something more than a packing slip as a real confirmation.

onesie13 said:
im waiting for something more than a packing slip as a real confirmation.
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I think everyone is...let's hope that sprint doesn't count this as an official statement
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lowandbehold said:
Wow hater. All major carriers and a few not so major carriers are getting the phone. Just like the SGS2...
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Not a hater I own a NS4G and use Sprint everyday. I was just being honest. So far we know very little about what Sprint will use for their LTE and if there is any compatability with Samsung already has in the phone. I know all of the carriers will get a variant of the Galaxy Nexus but I honestly don't expect any of them to get one until after May of next year and I also think its possible late next year this phone will be advertised like crazy on Sprint and their new LTE.

So AT&T 4G LTE is hitting NYC.

I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.

The LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus only works on Verizon. Honestly, I'd stick with the Galaxy Note until actually using LTE doesn't murder your battery or put you over a data cap.

bossg4 said:
The at&t note is LTE
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There has been no information released to today that specifically indicates the Note will have LTE when/if it does comes to ATT. It has been seen at the FCC with the normal assortment of bands, but the only thing different was NOT the inclusion of LTE, rather a change in the model number (they added B) this could indicate as well that they took the physical button away as they did with the SG2.
No one but Sammy and ATT can say for sure that if/when the Note comes to the US that it will sport ATT's LTE network.

bossg4 said:
The at&t note is LTE
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And I've got a bridge to sell you

bossg4 said:
I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Sounds like bull to me. Why then is at&t seeing the note in their system as a tab. Humm
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I'm fairly positive it will be LTE.

bossg4 said:
I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Have you been able to use it yet? Anyway that you can get a pic of just the front screen, or something showing ATT logo?

in for pics, this is great news for me, buuuut....i really wish the front face was blank. the samsung logo is annoying enough

If AT&T gets an LTE Note it will be Qualcomm, if people thought it felt slow in the Skyrocket... a screen with the Note's resolution will not be fun. I say hold off on LTE until gen 2 chipsets are out.
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I don't find the Skyrocket slow at all, much quicker than my brother's ATT GS2. Some of you just look for things to complain about.

Seeking. Did you ever find a time to get some pictures of that Samsung Note for AT&T? I am really looking forward to it coming to AT&T. My upgrade is due up shortly.

I believe that guy was lying, or got scared. He has removed both posts that he made in reference to the ATT version.

Since he disappeared and never showed a pic, here is another story confirming the Note is headed for AT&T with LTE and the Snapdragon processor, along with a picture of it with four soft buttons. However there's something taped to it, presumably covering up the AT&T logo.

Namuna said:
I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me. I am ****. And I talk a lot of ****. **** **** ****.
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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.

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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.
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Everyone created clever names for overrated and generally crappy phones. For example, your phone the "****rocket" or an iphone, the "I****".
On a phone you would never notice 30-50mb downstream speeds unless you are downloading a movie, etc.
The slight speed advantage you receive from LTE over the Note is cancelled out by the Snapdragon. It seems you ignored the main part of my post saying that the Snapdragon is a TERRIBLE SoC. On the ****rocket and the T-mo SGSII, UI lag is prevalent as well as laggy transitions, and unreliable game performance.
The quadrant scores on ANY app reveal the unsteadiness of the Snapdragon when compared to the OG At&t SGSII. Many people including myself have tried the Vivid and the ****rocket and have noticed visible lag when going thru day to day tasks. I went to my local corporate store and tried one on the release day, I asked the rep and he said the model was not defective and then I tried my buddy's ****rocket and it was just as laggy. He ended up buying my OG S2 from me.
Another thing that will stop me from buying any LTE phone besides the fact that they all have Snapdragon SoC's is the butchering done by At&t to ALL their devices but especially to LTE devices.
I owned an AT&T OG SGSII and we had a decent 10-12 well known developers with nice ROMs. Then I took a look at the Skyrocket forums a couple days ago and saw 1 well known dev and another dev asking for donations...
It will be the same with the LTE Note, except most likely worse. That is very unsettling especially since the LTE Note is most likely not shipping with ICS unless its release is in Q2 2012. Then all buyers will be stuck on Gingerbread till someone ports it.
But yup, have fun with those speeds, I doubt those internet speeds will help you much in day to day activites on your phone but okay... Have fun waiting a year for ICS!
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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.

Can't wait. Only an LTE Nexus on AT&T could make think twice about the Note.

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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.
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Exactly...
On my Note, when I hit 10gigs of data, I got throttled even though it was day 29 of my billing cycle.
But... On my Iphone I used like 20gigs a month and never got throttled.
As long as the "Apple Cheerleader Effect" lives on, No cell company will ever cater to Android users.
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Nexus 4 CDMA.. Did Google abandon us ?

I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
What do you CDMA customers plan to do ?

Don't want to offend you but theres quite a few people outside the US, maybe it's not worth for them anymore

Same boat...
I'm in the same boat. Honestly though, I've largely had it with Sprint and while I've been with them for over 10 years, the quality of the service has declined a great deal in the past 6 months. 3G data is slow and here in San Diego, WiMax was a failure. LTE is promised but has yet to be launched, so the jury is out and it could be 2014 before it's where I live on the coast.
I'm not going to Verizon, but thinking hard on prepaid, to the point of buying the Nexus 4 next month for a few weeks of trialing (T-Mo?) while keeping my OG Evo with Sprint. If things pan out, I might save some money and have a serviceable smartphone.

They don't at least dont with verizon because of a CDMA band that causes verizon to check every update that comes through. They basically arent doing what apple & microsoft to come extent do. They just haven't bothered.

GSM IS more popular, besides the CDMA carriers are more pricey(Yes that means you Big Red).

I doubt the CDMA call will go unanswered. Just give it more time.

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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
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Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.

I imagine they are discussing with CDMA characters maybe about providing updates sooner?

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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
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Sprint was NOT really tight with Google on their Nexus phones in my opinion. Sprint got the Nexus-S in May 2011, when it was first released to T-Mobile and worldwide in December 2010. Same with the Galaxy Nexus, Sprint got it April 2012, where as the GSM version was released in November 2011, and Verizon December 2011.
If Sprint was Google's best buddy, why have the Nexus phones been delayed like 6 months after release to Sprint ?

I can't really blame google here for the CMDA issue.
Basically google is giving Verizon the middle finger (and rightly so for the way Verizon handled updates)

It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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I am so glad I just got out of Sprint.
Currently on T-mobile right now, and having actual 3G makes phone so much faster.
I think you should read the very good articles from theverge.com. They explained why there is no LTE and comments on CDMA.
In my opinion, Google's decision to not release CDMA version will benefit us all.
Google's plan is giving out pure google experience to many people and Verizon so far has been not co-operating well.
Seeing how long it took to have Jellybean reached to Verizon's Nexus device, it resulted bad rep to both Android and Google.
If this Nexus become a success, Verizon my bend to Google's will and deliver the pure google experience.
Also making CDMA version would mean having LTE chip, which will cause fragmentation among Nexus phones.
This will increase the cost for production and maintenance.
They could increase the price of the phone like iPhone and make all variants but I would say it is better to keep the price low so more people can buy it.
Sacrificing Verizon and Sprint customers for the better.

I somewhat get how some of you say Google is giving VZW the big middle finger - especially with the long delays they cause for updates and the ping-pong with Wallet.
I say the real test is if Google scales back the Motorola/VZW love-fest. Moto is so far up VZW's hoo hoo I don't think they can see any light. They release multiple phones on VZW and have a single, US GSM phone that's not terrible, but I don't see it destroying the market either...
I'd personally on some levels love to see Google let Moto fail a terrible, horrible, destructive death and quietly take the patents and run with them like they intended. On another level, I'd love to see Google purchase Tmobile, raise up Moto as a real phone maker again, and have a perfectly, vertically integrated system. Man, that'd be sweet.

haha, verizon and their CDMA network is not the centre of the universe. hardly even close.

martonikaj said:
Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.
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I completely agree, verizon has been terrible to google since google started the nexus line, verizon just fights google about google wallet ever since they tried to release it. Verizon was the best...now there are the worst, they just think they're the best. I'm a verizon customer and I can't wait to switch but i can't for awhile. >:l but i still think Google should have developed a CDMA model for samsung, i would love to switch to their unlimited data plan.

CDMA is an end of the road/dead technology abandoned by its developers and development body (i.e Qualcomm and 3GPP2). It also used in very few places (a few providers in North American and worldwide).
IMO Sprint/Verizon/etc are at fault for not implementing VoLTE to get rid of the frankenCDMA stopgap called eHRPD. That way they can sell are pure LTE device and not have to deal with the complexities of circuit switched fallback to CDMA (which is much more complex than for UMTS).
So I'm not surprised, its a terrible mess for CDMAs transition to 3G until they finally get rid of their CDMA network and go to pure LTE.

As someone on Sprint who is about to experience LTE entering my market, I will be thrilled to transition away from these ****e 3G speeds. In the next 6 months I look forward to the fruits of that SoftBank+Sprint deal, as well.
As far as the CDMA versions of this phone are concerned, it seems safe to assume that Sprint's version will be released in a similar manner as with the previous two Nexus devices. I cannot speak for Verizon. I also feel that the gap between GSM and CDMA releases for the Nexus 4 will only be good for the maturity of the CDMA version of the handset.
An interesting aside: I wonder if the SoftBank+Sprint deal that enabled Sprint to take majority ownership of Clearwire means that Sprint will change strategy and put WiMax radios back into new devices? Then there would be a 3G+LTE radio, a WiFI radio and a WiMax Radio (Or it would be a combined WiFi+WiMax radio that switched between the two states).

Sorry guys, but now that Sprint has the iPhone, I doubt they give a flying f*** about Nexus devices. And outside the US, how many people are actually on a CDMA carrier? Not many. GSM is the Global Standard, so it would make sense for Google to market the device unlocked for GSM making it available to the majority of wireless consumers. Plus, if enough people gripe about it to Sprint and Verizon they might fold into the accords of Google.

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It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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Aside from the Nexus One, the Nexus devices haven't been very attractive. But the Nexus 4 is sexy as all hell and cheap too. That's why us Nexus users are pissed. :\

WiMax will not be returning. It just won't, it doesn't make sense.
Sprint also has to sell a certain number of iPhones to satisfy their agreement with Apple. I'm surprised they're even carrying the LGOG.
CDMA was a bad choice over GSM a long time ago. GSM is also on the way out, but it's still the global standard and has great interoperability, which LTE does not and may never have.
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VZW supersupport vs everyone else

Ok. Most of the team's and members in this community or on xda either know me or have least seen my name. Whether that is my perception or a fact I am hoping you understand the spirit behind this post.
Foe the past 2 years I have either used a vzw gnex or vzw gs3. I loved the support that the gnex had and the almost google experiance of the galaxy nexus.
One thing I always noticed was the amount of roms that the gsm community had over gnex. It became understood that while many devs and teams tried support both only a hand full or two kept with it. the ones that did were very generous and I am grateful f or all your work and time!!!?
So when i was consideringmy next phone it seemed that a gsm phone would be the way to go to get access to the most devs talent.
So I told vzw to go skip!!!$$$$&&:;;;
Now I broke my contract, paid the fee and signed up with tmobile. Now I have this beast of a phone and the first half dozen aosp roms are built but for verizon not a gsm variant,
I am shocked how the switch happened and fast. I am not complaining just wanted to see the community way in on this. Obviously the development is picking up and might balance out. I also am aware that vzw variant came out earlier in US, however over seas gsm g2's have been out for just as long or longer than vzw.
So please give me your thoughts,
Thanks again to all tje devs and teams no matter if u are currently supporting our not!!!!!
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I had the VZW GNex for almost 2 years and had it unlocked and rooted on day 1. I can't speak to the number of GSM ROMs available, but there was certainly no shortage of development for the LTE variant. I had 4.3 on it 6 months ago. The G2 just got that yesterday...
Just my opinion, but the root-head needs to consider WAY more than past developer support when deciding on a new device. Device popularity fuels development. Like it or not, VZW phones tend to sway the market pretty heavily. The VZW variant of a given device is bound to be one of the most numerous on the planet. Add to that the fact that the previous VZW Nexus devices started falling off contract last month and you have all those people looking to move forward...and likely intending to stay with VZW.
Last I read, The Nexus 5 wasn't likely to be seen any time soom on VZW...but the big brother (the G2) is already out. That puts the VZW G2 in the bulls eye for hot development.
IMHO...

Thanks for your opinion!
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The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.

Toro support was good but compared to gsm thread not even close. The network coverage here is better for my home and work. At work 3g sometimes with vzw or nada. Which kills battery. T-Mobile 4g all day, so there is no universal better, that depends on your location. So i had the best network with no data at work all day.
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fr4nk1yn said:
The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
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You mean substandard for where you work/live/play, right? I don't think you'd be dumb enough to suggest that T-Mobile is substandard for everyone, right? Right? I mean, I have 3 lines, unlimited everything, with 30Mbps LTE everywhere that I work/live/play, and I pay 140 dollars a month. I always have service, I always have data, and I don't drop phonecalls. Is that considered substandard to you?
Let me give you a pro tip, that you should follow at all times. Network service is location dependent. I completely understand the need to justify paying 250 dollars for 3 phones with limited data, etc, on VZW by saying at least the network is great, but lets face it. The vast, vast majority of people don't wander too far from home that often. The vast majority of people are not traveling the countryside from coast to coast all year long, and they don't give a rat's behind that bumstick Idaho has LTE coverage on the VZW map. I used to think I needed VZW, I'm glad I broke the spell that they hold over their customers about how every other network is garbage, because it's simply not true.