Ok. Most of the team's and members in this community or on xda either know me or have least seen my name. Whether that is my perception or a fact I am hoping you understand the spirit behind this post.
Foe the past 2 years I have either used a vzw gnex or vzw gs3. I loved the support that the gnex had and the almost google experiance of the galaxy nexus.
One thing I always noticed was the amount of roms that the gsm community had over gnex. It became understood that while many devs and teams tried support both only a hand full or two kept with it. the ones that did were very generous and I am grateful f or all your work and time!!!?
So when i was consideringmy next phone it seemed that a gsm phone would be the way to go to get access to the most devs talent.
So I told vzw to go skip!!!$$$$&&:;;;
Now I broke my contract, paid the fee and signed up with tmobile. Now I have this beast of a phone and the first half dozen aosp roms are built but for verizon not a gsm variant,
I am shocked how the switch happened and fast. I am not complaining just wanted to see the community way in on this. Obviously the development is picking up and might balance out. I also am aware that vzw variant came out earlier in US, however over seas gsm g2's have been out for just as long or longer than vzw.
So please give me your thoughts,
Thanks again to all tje devs and teams no matter if u are currently supporting our not!!!!!
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I had the VZW GNex for almost 2 years and had it unlocked and rooted on day 1. I can't speak to the number of GSM ROMs available, but there was certainly no shortage of development for the LTE variant. I had 4.3 on it 6 months ago. The G2 just got that yesterday...
Just my opinion, but the root-head needs to consider WAY more than past developer support when deciding on a new device. Device popularity fuels development. Like it or not, VZW phones tend to sway the market pretty heavily. The VZW variant of a given device is bound to be one of the most numerous on the planet. Add to that the fact that the previous VZW Nexus devices started falling off contract last month and you have all those people looking to move forward...and likely intending to stay with VZW.
Last I read, The Nexus 5 wasn't likely to be seen any time soom on VZW...but the big brother (the G2) is already out. That puts the VZW G2 in the bulls eye for hot development.
IMHO...
Thanks for your opinion!
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The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
Toro support was good but compared to gsm thread not even close. The network coverage here is better for my home and work. At work 3g sometimes with vzw or nada. Which kills battery. T-Mobile 4g all day, so there is no universal better, that depends on your location. So i had the best network with no data at work all day.
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fr4nk1yn said:
The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
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You mean substandard for where you work/live/play, right? I don't think you'd be dumb enough to suggest that T-Mobile is substandard for everyone, right? Right? I mean, I have 3 lines, unlimited everything, with 30Mbps LTE everywhere that I work/live/play, and I pay 140 dollars a month. I always have service, I always have data, and I don't drop phonecalls. Is that considered substandard to you?
Let me give you a pro tip, that you should follow at all times. Network service is location dependent. I completely understand the need to justify paying 250 dollars for 3 phones with limited data, etc, on VZW by saying at least the network is great, but lets face it. The vast, vast majority of people don't wander too far from home that often. The vast majority of people are not traveling the countryside from coast to coast all year long, and they don't give a rat's behind that bumstick Idaho has LTE coverage on the VZW map. I used to think I needed VZW, I'm glad I broke the spell that they hold over their customers about how every other network is garbage, because it's simply not true.
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I'm not sure if this is good or bad.
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-buys-t-mobile-2011-3
On one side I think it's great because it'll allow AT&T to better compete with Verizon and hopefully bring down prices. Right now Verizon has a huge hold on customers because of their fantastic coverage, but after this move AT&T won't be too far behind- maybe even a little ahead.
On the other side it's lowering the number of big players, so it's possible AT&T and Verizon with both decide to jack up their rates together instead of better competing for prices.
No offense but look around for the other 15+ topics about this.
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I jumped ship at the right time. I couldn't be happier with the service. Never a dropped call, fast consistent data. Att was charging me the same price for what Verizon is and Verizon simply just offers more. I was with att for six years and finally had it. When I called they didn't even want to keep me. I think this is going to push some long time customers on both sides to leave and find a different provider.
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Its good and bad.
The Bad:
ATT monopoly has just grown even bigger than it was before.
(from experience) With each take over it does, service quality gets worse
Higher prices on little service
The Good:
More towers
Now has a wider spectrum (frequency 1700 & 2100)
Now tmobile and att devices will truly be interchangeable.
I was going to move to tmoble on the 15th of may when att cuts my service due to me being on the legacy (mmode) network. That sux cause now they are one in the same. Thats BS and Verizon sux in my area as well as Sprint. The two best were... believe it or not Att and T-mobile.
That exact topic is why im typing this from a droid x kb on my dinc. I hate at&t. I hate what they do to thier customers, i especially hate the fact they raped what little sanity the gsm market had in it. T mobile. Once i heard about the buyout i called one of my buddies at verizon and he set me up. Its not all bad. Im on verizon now. No at&t for me.
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To be fair, this is all speculation at this point. It will be quite some time before we find out if AT&T will even be allowed to acquire T-mobile.
Its not speculation, att world never come out with this news if it was not a pretty sure deal. Yes, they do have some hurdles to jump, but I can guarantee att has been talking to various government regulators for quite some time so none of this is a surprise to anyone but us who are on the outside. Unfortunately for tmo customers like me I'll be dealing with the horrible customer service, limited internet, and higher prices that att has to offer in a few months
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Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
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Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
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That would be one hell of a monopoly.
I think its good and bad. The bad now people have only one really ****ty service provider to choose from. The good maybe at&t will realize we need to fix some **** and might actually be something that others can say hey at&t is good. Now that verizon has the iphone at&t has only one edge and thats the atrix. However i guarantee you it wont be long until htc releases an atrix like product on big red.
I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.
The LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus only works on Verizon. Honestly, I'd stick with the Galaxy Note until actually using LTE doesn't murder your battery or put you over a data cap.
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The at&t note is LTE
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There has been no information released to today that specifically indicates the Note will have LTE when/if it does comes to ATT. It has been seen at the FCC with the normal assortment of bands, but the only thing different was NOT the inclusion of LTE, rather a change in the model number (they added B) this could indicate as well that they took the physical button away as they did with the SG2.
No one but Sammy and ATT can say for sure that if/when the Note comes to the US that it will sport ATT's LTE network.
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The at&t note is LTE
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I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Sounds like bull to me. Why then is at&t seeing the note in their system as a tab. Humm
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I'm fairly positive it will be LTE.
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I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Have you been able to use it yet? Anyway that you can get a pic of just the front screen, or something showing ATT logo?
in for pics, this is great news for me, buuuut....i really wish the front face was blank. the samsung logo is annoying enough
If AT&T gets an LTE Note it will be Qualcomm, if people thought it felt slow in the Skyrocket... a screen with the Note's resolution will not be fun. I say hold off on LTE until gen 2 chipsets are out.
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I don't find the Skyrocket slow at all, much quicker than my brother's ATT GS2. Some of you just look for things to complain about.
Seeking. Did you ever find a time to get some pictures of that Samsung Note for AT&T? I am really looking forward to it coming to AT&T. My upgrade is due up shortly.
I believe that guy was lying, or got scared. He has removed both posts that he made in reference to the ATT version.
Since he disappeared and never showed a pic, here is another story confirming the Note is headed for AT&T with LTE and the Snapdragon processor, along with a picture of it with four soft buttons. However there's something taped to it, presumably covering up the AT&T logo.
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I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me. I am ****. And I talk a lot of ****. **** **** ****.
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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.
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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.
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Everyone created clever names for overrated and generally crappy phones. For example, your phone the "****rocket" or an iphone, the "I****".
On a phone you would never notice 30-50mb downstream speeds unless you are downloading a movie, etc.
The slight speed advantage you receive from LTE over the Note is cancelled out by the Snapdragon. It seems you ignored the main part of my post saying that the Snapdragon is a TERRIBLE SoC. On the ****rocket and the T-mo SGSII, UI lag is prevalent as well as laggy transitions, and unreliable game performance.
The quadrant scores on ANY app reveal the unsteadiness of the Snapdragon when compared to the OG At&t SGSII. Many people including myself have tried the Vivid and the ****rocket and have noticed visible lag when going thru day to day tasks. I went to my local corporate store and tried one on the release day, I asked the rep and he said the model was not defective and then I tried my buddy's ****rocket and it was just as laggy. He ended up buying my OG S2 from me.
Another thing that will stop me from buying any LTE phone besides the fact that they all have Snapdragon SoC's is the butchering done by At&t to ALL their devices but especially to LTE devices.
I owned an AT&T OG SGSII and we had a decent 10-12 well known developers with nice ROMs. Then I took a look at the Skyrocket forums a couple days ago and saw 1 well known dev and another dev asking for donations...
It will be the same with the LTE Note, except most likely worse. That is very unsettling especially since the LTE Note is most likely not shipping with ICS unless its release is in Q2 2012. Then all buyers will be stuck on Gingerbread till someone ports it.
But yup, have fun with those speeds, I doubt those internet speeds will help you much in day to day activites on your phone but okay... Have fun waiting a year for ICS!
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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.
Can't wait. Only an LTE Nexus on AT&T could make think twice about the Note.
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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.
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Exactly...
On my Note, when I hit 10gigs of data, I got throttled even though it was day 29 of my billing cycle.
But... On my Iphone I used like 20gigs a month and never got throttled.
As long as the "Apple Cheerleader Effect" lives on, No cell company will ever cater to Android users.
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Description:
I am starting a poll for the best provider of this device.
All biased opinions beside what is your take on your
carrier and why it is or is not superior to a separate carrier.
Rules:
Please post why you voted just don't leave a vote!
Please keep it related to stock features. This is not about the development aspect.
No Questions - If you want to ask a participant a question please PM them(Unless the question will help the community)
ALL FORUM RULES APPLY!
TO VZW CUSTOMERS:
WE KNOW ABOUT YOUR BOOTLOADER PLEASE DON'T POST ABOUT THAT IN HERE!
To put it simply.. Sprint is the best provider in my opinion because of two things.
Unlimited LTE data if you're located in a city that has it ( I happen to be)
Google Wallet works out of the box without any ridiculous build.prop edits or hacks
Two reasons I feel make a huge difference and the main reason why I left T-Mobile for Sprint and got this phone.
T-Mobile
Customer service
Good coverage/service
Cheaper
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Verizon.
Amazing cell tower coverage and insanely fast LTE on the 700Mhz band (great wall/building penetration).
Unlimited minutes & sms. 8GB of data. $75/mo. (Share Everything plan so I split the bill with a buddy).
AT&T
Unlimited everything. $75...with discounts.
LTE
Good Customer Service
Never paid an upgrade fee
Never paid a restocking fee
They love veterans.
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Verizon Wireless, but only because I still have truly unlimited and unthrottled data with them, where I have used extremely high amounts of data without a peep. I am quite unhappy at their many anti-consumer policies just in the last 18 months alone, and with their GSIII, to be the ONLY carrier in the world to lock the bootloader and not participate in the 50gb Dropbox promo. Unlimited data is all I have to stay with them for now.
Also one bonus is allegedly their variant is global capable, which will be unlocked in a future software update. I wonder exactly which GSM frequencies it would support. Its a shame the Sprint version has an embedded sim, no way to swap it out.
I am with verizon because I have unlimited data but I am thinking about switching to ATT for my purchase of the SGS3. Just getting opinions on carriers to see which is the best. ATT is the only provider that offers some type of 4g in my local area.
there is really no "BEST" provider for this phone. Its all relative to what works best in your area in relation to cost and usage. Everyone is going to have a different opinion based on what works best for them.
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there is really no "BEST" provider for this phone. Its all relative to what works best in your area in relation to cost and usage. Everyone is going to have a different opinion based on what works best for them.
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This is exactly what this thread is abouts. I want everyones opinion. I don't care what technical aspects are involved I want all biased answers!
VZW, unlimited data and blazing fast 4G LTE
You forgot to add us cellular to the voting poll. They have much better customer service and in my region have the best coverage.
I love Verizon lte speeds. But it's whoever has the best coverage in your area.
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there is really no "BEST" provider for this phone. Its all relative to what works best in your area in relation to cost and usage. Everyone is going to have a different opinion based on what works best for them.
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I agree as well and I am having good success with my sg3 on sprint.
I vote for Vodafone..
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Sprint = unlimited data plus 800 dollars a year cheaper compared to VZW.
"Please keep it related to stock features. This is not about the development aspect."
Coming from someone who has spent years traveling the entire country with two phones, and from every major carrier at one time or another....there is no doubt at all.
Verizon is the way to go. Best coverage, fastest and largest LTE coverage.....they just have all the others beat in service which is all this poll can be about, because if you are only looking at stock devices, the carrier is the only difference.
Price? Who gives a damn if your bill is $130 or $150 a month.....I would take a $20 savings but I am not giving up the best service quality for a little cash every month. You get what you pay for and spotty coverage, slow data, and holes where you can't even talk are not features I want to pay for no matter how much I am saving.
You're going to get all sorts of carrier fanboy answers here, but coming from someone who has used them all, there is no doubt in my mind. Also I have seen far too many people that moved away from the other carriers to Verizon who are blown away by how much better the service is. The proof is in the pudding.
T-Mobile
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Sprint, cheaper price, true unlimited data, Google Wallet
This is not for me to compare personally, this is just a "What does the community think" discussion. I am a Verizon fanboy at heart since their coverage is virtually everywhere!
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This is not for me to compare personally, this is just a "What does the community think" discussion. I am a Verizon fanboy at heart since their coverage is virtually everywhere!
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Im in the same boat as OP. About to switch carriers. VZW has amazing coverage but until the nexus and s3 I havent like any of there phones. Thats why its A T&T for me.
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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
What do you CDMA customers plan to do ?
Don't want to offend you but theres quite a few people outside the US, maybe it's not worth for them anymore
Same boat...
I'm in the same boat. Honestly though, I've largely had it with Sprint and while I've been with them for over 10 years, the quality of the service has declined a great deal in the past 6 months. 3G data is slow and here in San Diego, WiMax was a failure. LTE is promised but has yet to be launched, so the jury is out and it could be 2014 before it's where I live on the coast.
I'm not going to Verizon, but thinking hard on prepaid, to the point of buying the Nexus 4 next month for a few weeks of trialing (T-Mo?) while keeping my OG Evo with Sprint. If things pan out, I might save some money and have a serviceable smartphone.
They don't at least dont with verizon because of a CDMA band that causes verizon to check every update that comes through. They basically arent doing what apple & microsoft to come extent do. They just haven't bothered.
GSM IS more popular, besides the CDMA carriers are more pricey(Yes that means you Big Red).
I doubt the CDMA call will go unanswered. Just give it more time.
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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
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Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.
I imagine they are discussing with CDMA characters maybe about providing updates sooner?
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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
What do you CDMA customers plan to do ?
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Sprint was NOT really tight with Google on their Nexus phones in my opinion. Sprint got the Nexus-S in May 2011, when it was first released to T-Mobile and worldwide in December 2010. Same with the Galaxy Nexus, Sprint got it April 2012, where as the GSM version was released in November 2011, and Verizon December 2011.
If Sprint was Google's best buddy, why have the Nexus phones been delayed like 6 months after release to Sprint ?
I can't really blame google here for the CMDA issue.
Basically google is giving Verizon the middle finger (and rightly so for the way Verizon handled updates)
It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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I am so glad I just got out of Sprint.
Currently on T-mobile right now, and having actual 3G makes phone so much faster.
I think you should read the very good articles from theverge.com. They explained why there is no LTE and comments on CDMA.
In my opinion, Google's decision to not release CDMA version will benefit us all.
Google's plan is giving out pure google experience to many people and Verizon so far has been not co-operating well.
Seeing how long it took to have Jellybean reached to Verizon's Nexus device, it resulted bad rep to both Android and Google.
If this Nexus become a success, Verizon my bend to Google's will and deliver the pure google experience.
Also making CDMA version would mean having LTE chip, which will cause fragmentation among Nexus phones.
This will increase the cost for production and maintenance.
They could increase the price of the phone like iPhone and make all variants but I would say it is better to keep the price low so more people can buy it.
Sacrificing Verizon and Sprint customers for the better.
I somewhat get how some of you say Google is giving VZW the big middle finger - especially with the long delays they cause for updates and the ping-pong with Wallet.
I say the real test is if Google scales back the Motorola/VZW love-fest. Moto is so far up VZW's hoo hoo I don't think they can see any light. They release multiple phones on VZW and have a single, US GSM phone that's not terrible, but I don't see it destroying the market either...
I'd personally on some levels love to see Google let Moto fail a terrible, horrible, destructive death and quietly take the patents and run with them like they intended. On another level, I'd love to see Google purchase Tmobile, raise up Moto as a real phone maker again, and have a perfectly, vertically integrated system. Man, that'd be sweet.
haha, verizon and their CDMA network is not the centre of the universe. hardly even close.
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Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.
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I completely agree, verizon has been terrible to google since google started the nexus line, verizon just fights google about google wallet ever since they tried to release it. Verizon was the best...now there are the worst, they just think they're the best. I'm a verizon customer and I can't wait to switch but i can't for awhile. >:l but i still think Google should have developed a CDMA model for samsung, i would love to switch to their unlimited data plan.
CDMA is an end of the road/dead technology abandoned by its developers and development body (i.e Qualcomm and 3GPP2). It also used in very few places (a few providers in North American and worldwide).
IMO Sprint/Verizon/etc are at fault for not implementing VoLTE to get rid of the frankenCDMA stopgap called eHRPD. That way they can sell are pure LTE device and not have to deal with the complexities of circuit switched fallback to CDMA (which is much more complex than for UMTS).
So I'm not surprised, its a terrible mess for CDMAs transition to 3G until they finally get rid of their CDMA network and go to pure LTE.
As someone on Sprint who is about to experience LTE entering my market, I will be thrilled to transition away from these ****e 3G speeds. In the next 6 months I look forward to the fruits of that SoftBank+Sprint deal, as well.
As far as the CDMA versions of this phone are concerned, it seems safe to assume that Sprint's version will be released in a similar manner as with the previous two Nexus devices. I cannot speak for Verizon. I also feel that the gap between GSM and CDMA releases for the Nexus 4 will only be good for the maturity of the CDMA version of the handset.
An interesting aside: I wonder if the SoftBank+Sprint deal that enabled Sprint to take majority ownership of Clearwire means that Sprint will change strategy and put WiMax radios back into new devices? Then there would be a 3G+LTE radio, a WiFI radio and a WiMax Radio (Or it would be a combined WiFi+WiMax radio that switched between the two states).
Sorry guys, but now that Sprint has the iPhone, I doubt they give a flying f*** about Nexus devices. And outside the US, how many people are actually on a CDMA carrier? Not many. GSM is the Global Standard, so it would make sense for Google to market the device unlocked for GSM making it available to the majority of wireless consumers. Plus, if enough people gripe about it to Sprint and Verizon they might fold into the accords of Google.
Spastic909 said:
It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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Aside from the Nexus One, the Nexus devices haven't been very attractive. But the Nexus 4 is sexy as all hell and cheap too. That's why us Nexus users are pissed. :\
WiMax will not be returning. It just won't, it doesn't make sense.
Sprint also has to sell a certain number of iPhones to satisfy their agreement with Apple. I'm surprised they're even carrying the LGOG.
CDMA was a bad choice over GSM a long time ago. GSM is also on the way out, but it's still the global standard and has great interoperability, which LTE does not and may never have.
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Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
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Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
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Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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psychoace said:
Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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Willing to bet it'll be less than the off contract price of the G2, so set price aside, I'll pay whatever for either device, more concerned about network vs. development prospects.
I'm voting Verizon simply for the fact their coverage is just too good to ignore. I'd love to be on T-Mobile because it's hard to ignore how cheap it is to be on their network, but their coverage is just not good outside of cities. The frequency T-Mobile uses also has issues when it comes to reception within buildings. There are a lot of people who love the carrier, but even plenty of the loyal ones will say the signal isn't the greatest by any means.
If you don't plan on traveling and your city has good coverage, it's fine, but if you do travel, it's a more difficult decision. I hate the cost that comes with being on Verizon, but it's nice getting data in areas where ever other carrier fumbles. In fact, at the job I'm working part time at right now, I'm the only one who does not need to use the wifi there because I get great 3g reception.
Also, I think the G2 is going to have a better dev community than past LG phones. This is the first flagship LG Android phone to release on all carriers.
Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Ill second the opinion on VZWs network being too big to ignore.
I actually had a demo Tmo device for the last couple weeks and outdoors the coverage was great, but once inside a building it went to nothing. Just because of the frequency bands they use, so its not like its something fixable. AT&T/VZW own the lower bands, and lower freqs have better building penetration.
In my case, no matter how cheap it was, Tmo just wouldnt work for me.
I also average 5-7gb a month so no prepaid or other plan really has enough data for me other than T-Mobile.
I guess Aio is always an option with 7gb/month allowance and options for more but 8mbps cap kinda sucks.