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good bye, my xoom

just ordered a galaxy note 10.1 in clove. will received it in a week
i am giving my xoom to my dad
the main reason i bought note 10.1 is:
1) it's note taking ability is really useful for me
2) samsung's cpu is for more better than tegra (it's true, except can't play tegra 3 games)
3) tried s3 , found that samsung's touchwiz is actually better than i thought (at least better than my razr!)
4) crazy multitasking (there's a preview showed that it can run 4 apps in screen soon)
anyway, i just want to say, i really happy with my xoom.
i think this is moto's best device ever (owned a razr, moto's customization sucks)
for 18months, i use it everyday, for browsing, music, video, youtube, note taking, gaming etc
almost everything.
for me, some of the cons is
1) too heavy. extremely good build quality, but it's really to heavy for gaming.
2) display isn't as good as other devices
i'd like to say THANK YOU for everyone that helped me with flashing roms, rooting, customizing etc
and thanks teameos for the awesome roms
hope you guys continue enjoy this wonderful device!

Hope you enjoy ur new device. Sounds awesome! However Motorolas' build quality is by far superior to any device manufacturer. I think most people dont realize this until 1 year or so. I love my DROID X and DROID Xyboard 8.2. My xyboard is tough as hell, I dropt it to many times because of my gf, she always likes to grab it away when I am reading on DROID life. It usually hits the ground from their. Still fine and no scratches yet....
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Ok ...
But before you bought, you tried use team eos rom?
Anyway, enjoy your new device
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kikuto said:
Ok ...
But before you bought, you tried use team eos rom?
Anyway, enjoy your new device
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Ofcourse i tried n my xoom is still using it now. Its awesome

omnia1994 said:
Ofcourse i tried n my xoom is still using it now. Its awesome
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yes it is a little bit heavy but still a good tablet
maybe i will buy a N7 - but at the moment i´m still lucky with my xoom

the build of xoom is excellent quality but ok, it starts to get kind of old...i wont give up since we have jb but i know that i ll have to search for sth else in future...hope u enjoy ur samsung as much as the xoom!

I'm getting a N7 soon... But that doesn't mean I will give away my Xoom, anyway... Good luck with your Note 10.1
Edit: won't buy N7 anymore lol... Will stick with my Xoom and will buy an HTC One X Tegra 3 soon
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With Team EOS JB to keep me current I'm sticking with my Xoom4G until I see a 3rd Gen 10" tablet with all the ports and features the Xoom has plus is Google Experience.
Just looking at the shelf life this Xoom has provided as not only a 1st Gen Android Tablet but the unit that was the test bed for Android Tablet entirely I won't give it up so easily.
While there is much better hardware out there unless your a big Tablet gamer it mostly goes to waste on anything but smoothness and Project Butter in JB has brought a lot of that back to the Xoom anyway.
Nexus7 may be a GE device but it doesn't have even half the features the Xoom has in the port and video dept.
Hopefully Asus will get the next High End GE release because I love thier design and dock feature but won't go that route until it has 4G and is GE.

lol just saying that touchwiz is better than moto razrs vanilla ics is just plain stupid..

Galaxy S3 vs Razr i

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFrX3csGJk watch this guys!!

I'm not to concerned about comparing them becasue that S3 is just too big to hold to your head as a phone. Razr I just is that goldilocks size...not to big not to small just damn right. thanks for the link

I have the S3, I have not come across any phone that is better imo. I am getting the RAZR i this week so I can do a fair comparison

I have a RAZR I and my friend has the s3 so we tested against each other.
To make the test as fair as possible we both used stock os as out of the box and did a factory reset, and installed the same apps on both phones.
The antutu test showed a much better result on the sgs3.
However when we tested the app we installed there was no clear winner and only a split second in the 2 phones s3 was quicker in some apps and the RAZR I was quicker in others overall I would say they are very well matched in user performance.
But the speed of the camera on the RAZR I won hands down and is much faster then the s3 camera.
From power off the s3 is much faster to boot.
And both me and my friend agree that the build quality of the RAZR I is much better then that of the s3 (my friends s3 is 4 months old and he has already broken 2 screens) nuff said about the build.
So all in all both me and my friend agree the only advantage of the s3 is the bigger screen. And that you would not find your self in a situation where s3 would be better then the RAZR I or the RAZR I better then the s3 both are very evenly matched.
But all I can say is when intel give us a duel core or quad core cpu it will fly
This is just the opinion of me and my friend.
All the best
Moley
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Some people asked me why didn't I buy the Siii instead. I bought the RAZR i for a few reasons:
After owning a HTC titan i found it that anything beyond 4,3" is too big.
Cost benefit the RAZR i was much better since i bought it unlocked and unbranded and is a lie chapter than the Siii.
I'm not a huge gamer so i think the daily tasks are overall the same in both devices.
I'm pretty happy with this device.
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I have a s3, but I am very surprised with the battery consumption of the razr i.

Coming from S3 current N4 thoughts

Anyone who is coming from a s3 and all ready have an N4 in hand what are your thoughts and was it worth it, I just ordered N4 and currently have s3.

Hell, I went from the Galaxy SIII back to the Galaxy Nexus after just 4 weeks. I couldn't stand the physical home button and how poorly the AOSP ROMs were running on it. Even now no ROM (including CM10) is 100% rock solid on the SIII.
The N4 will be an upgrade in the software experience alone. Not to mention the better processor and build quality.

My n4 should come tomorrow. I have a s3 (international) also and will report back.
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My n4 has estimate ship date for tommorow so I'll se it for myself just wondering on the lucky ones who have it now.

sn0warmy said:
Hell, I went from the Galaxy SIII back to the Galaxy Nexus after just 4 weeks. I couldn't stand the physical home button and how poorly the AOSP ROMs were running on it. Even now no ROM (including CM10) is 100% rock solid on the SIII.
The N4 will be an upgrade in the software experience alone. Not to mention the better processor and build quality.
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cm10.1 has already made an option to disable the onscreen softkeys so that wouldnt be a problem..ill give it a month, and the n4 community will blow both s3 and onex's communities out of the water..

hello00 said:
...ill give it a month, and the n4 community will blow both s3 and onex's communities out of the water..
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Agreed. Can't wait till mine gets delivered in the next few days. :cyclops:
Luckily I'm moving over the next couple days so my mind will be occupied in the meantime.

Im tired of waiting for official Jelly Bean and not so impressive dev work/community for S3. Screen currently has a cracked line somehow and I never dropped it or let anyone use it .. happen in my pocket somehow? IDK. When N4 comes, gonna get the S3 replaced and sell that new.

jaju123 said:
My n4 should come tomorrow. I have a s3 (international) also and will report back.
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This will be an interesting comparison. While I would never touch the US SIII, I would consider the international SIII. Would be nice to see a comparison of games like Dead Trigger, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3, Real Racing 2, NFS Most Wanted, etc. for compatibility, smoothness, load time, stability, etc.

In Canada, with a North American S3. Also making this switch. Looking forward to it...if it ever ships!

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In Canada, with a North American S3. Also making this switch. Looking forward to it...if it ever ships!
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Yes I'm just wondering on the comparison to the s3 since in my opinion is the top phone right now.

I have an s3 now and even though I love the look of AMOLED screens (my htc desire, s2 and s3 all have them) the s3's is just too dim and I like red, but can't have red wallpaper as it is extremely pixelated, thank you pentile. Anyway my nexus 4 should be here tomorrow, I am planning to do a comparison video as soon as I can between the n4 and s3 for my you tube channel, I will put a link here when I am done. Is there anything you would like me to specifically look at?

danielsf said:
I have an s3 now and even though I love the look of AMOLED screens (my htc desire, s2 and s3 all have them) the s3's is just too dim and I like red, but can't have red wallpaper as it is extremely pixelated, thank you pentile. Anyway my nexus 4 should be here tomorrow, I am planning to do a comparison video as soon as I can between the n4 and s3 for my you tube channel, I will put a link here when I am done. Is there anything you would like me to specifically look at?
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If possible compare it while playing HD games.
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I came from a note 2 and a dual core s3 and I'm very happy with my N4.
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immunityx said:
I came from a note 2 and a dual core s3 and I'm very happy with my N4.
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I had the S3 and I hated the physical home button with a passion and went back to my GNEX within two days. I got my N4 today from T-mobile, sold my GNEX and I not looking back.
I am not into games or surfing the web on my phone, I mainly use it for my email, calender and daily task list and I am more then happy with my new N4. As I said in my first impression thread, I know allot of folks where skeptical about LG building the Nexus instead of Samsung, but I would think Google would not risk the Nexus line integrity and the LG version will be fine, only time will tell. Can't wait for CM10 to be ported to the phone so I can root it and have even more fun. Just my opinion for whats it's worth.

sn0warmy said:
Hell, I went from the Galaxy SIII back to the Galaxy Nexus after just 4 weeks. I couldn't stand the physical home button and how poorly the AOSP ROMs were running on it. Even now no ROM (including CM10) is 100% rock solid on the SIII.
The N4 will be an upgrade in the software experience alone. Not to mention the better processor and build quality.
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Sorry, but this is the SILLIEST thing i've read in a long time. FreeGS3 (my favourite) runs like boss on the S3, so does BlackBean ROM (AOKP, my 2nd favourite). CM10 stable just came out on the 13th and is running great as well.

GS3 was my dream phone. I couldn't afford it unlocked though. Not sure why anyone would sell a gs3 for any other phone.
Not saying the nexus 4 isn't awesome but a gs3 is sweet for sure..
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immunityx said:
I came from a note 2 and a dual core s3 and I'm very happy with my N4.
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More so than the Note II? Cost aside I'd probably go with Note II 1st then it's toss up between international 4-core S III and Nexus 4.

Yeah, I love the Note...not sure I would have sold that ...these are all awesome phones. Unless your contract is done or your phone is outdated I don't know why anyone would sell a new note or gs3..
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I have the i9300, an international HOX and I just returned the Optimus G (wanted to see the difference between N4). I bought the N4 today from T-Mobile in the states. I've had it about 8 hours now and it's replacing my 9300 as my daily driver. I used to own the Galaxy Nexus too for comparisons sake.
It hasn't been long enough to give a huge amount of comparable differences but there are a few things that stand out between the N4 vs. 9300 to me.
1. The build quality! It's super solid, looks mint and feels really premium. My girlfriend is a huge fan of soft touch polycarbonate and she rubbed it all over her face when I showed it to her. I promptly snatched it back. With the exception of the HOX I'd have to say it's the best built Android device ever, and I've owned just about all the flagships. The checkered pattern on the back is very nicely done, more subtle and better looking than it's Optimus G variant.
2. It's fast! I was able to do a restore of 100+ apps when I popped my sim in and still peruse the settings, use Chrome while it was doing it's thing with barely a hiccup. The transitions when multi-tasking and such are also noticeably smoother. I was previously running the Siyah kernel on the S3 UV'd/OC'd and thought that was blazing but the N4 easily tops it in the responsive and smoothness factor. No lag anywhere so far, some of that may be attributed to more butter in 4.2. It does however get noticeably warmer on the back than my S3 ever has.
3. The screen is very nice. Way better than the GNex, the brightness of the screen definitely separates it from the S3 and the IPS further separates itself from the S3 when it comes to small text. I always set the default text size to small and it was immediately noticeable it terms of clarity. I can't really tell the difference between the HOX and the N4 screen wise.

I've been using an international S3 since June and just got a Nexus 4 today. I love it honestly. It's built great, for some reason seems much smaller than it actually is. Love the screen, love the overall feel etc.. I'll come back and add to this post after I've had it for a bit longer.. I put my S3 on craigslist about 2 hours after I picked it up tho if that helps at all.. This is the smoothest phone I've ever owned by far and here is a short list of some of the most recent ones I'm comparing too.. International S3, Nokia 920, iPhone 4s, Galaxy Nexus...

RAZR maxx vs. Galaxy note 2

I am really interested in the galaxy note 2 but would love to get people who have experience with both to offer a comparison. I love my maxx and don't want to pay money for a note 2 if its not worth it. I would switch between both phones if I did purchase one but, is it worth the money? Is it a comparable device?
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specs in the note 2 in all area expect one exceed the Maxx, battery life. I don't have one personally, but the processor, camera, and screen in the note 2 are all better, based on reviews.
Speaking if build quality however, the RAZR is superior, and ships with a more vanilla like is.
the note 2 will likely get far more dev support, but both phones are still rather young so this ones in the air

Note 2 is too big IMO. Was at your crossroads for the last couple weeks and came home with a MAXX HD for me and the wife, couldn't be happier. For what its worth all the people I know that have the Note2 love it, but it is their primary/only media/internet device. I still use my phone for calls and need portability and need to have it fit in my pocket. I have the luxury of tablets and PC's for my primary internet/media devices so the size is a negative for me. The note2 specs are nice. Btw Best Buy will price match amazon wireless so you should be able to score a note 2 for $200 and a MAXX HD for $150 from them. Battery life has been phenomenal especially compared to the Droid x I came from. Enjoy your new purchase cannot go wrong with either.

I actually have both phones right now used the note 2 yesterday and today I'm using the RAZR I have to say from build quality perspective the RAZR easily wins I would also say the screen is sharper and has more vibrant colors.
The note 2 is bigger which is a plus to some but for me by the end of the day I was sick of needing to hold it with both hands to do anything . I'm 6ft tall 200pds so I'm not a tiny guy. I really want to like the note 2 but it just seems to big IMO.

I don't understand the appeal of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
A phablet device like that seems to try and sell based on paper specs. It seems to appeal to a consumer that thinks that bigger technical specs must automatically make it a superior product.
Phablets don't seem to be very well-thought-out products. I simply cannot think of a single use case where I want something bigger than a smartphone, but smaller than a tablet. It is a device that tries to fill two roles but doesnt do either of them well.

Thread closed. Please make one thread to compare phones.
Thank you.

upgrade from shift

hey guys as a long time evo shift owner, I currently have a upgrade on the 1st and I was wondering what you think is a better pick out of the 2 phones I am thinking about. the Galaxy S3 or Lg Optimus G 4G. thanks for feedback.
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Gf has a gs3 I stole off her. I still love my shift. I wish the HTC one allowed 3g and voice like the evo late does. I'm liking the black one. But I like s off too. And I'm still holding my breath for an HTC qwerty. The photon q has a very small community and I just prefer HTC apps.
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Just go with the ONE it's great! No need for s-off, u can unlock the bootloader very easily and root quickly, just like i did out of the box!!! :thumbup:
PS, I love my shift and keyboard, but working with the ONE's onscreen keyboard is not so bad after all!

I've been free to upgrade since March 1 but can't make up my mind. Both devices you mention look good but now I'm going to be looking more closely at the One. It sounds pretty awesome.

thanx,I would like the HTC one but the other 2 are in my price range.
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Id say the S3...super easy to root and it will be getting like 90% of the S4 features
Also, if you did the gift card reserve at best buy, the phone itswlf is $50 and the card is $50, so you're basically only paying the activation fee :thumbup:

good advice and thanks about the gift card reserve, I forgot I did that.
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I just switched to the Optimus G yesterday after three awesome years with my shift.
Optimus G is pretty slick right out of the box, but is not fun to root and unlock on a Linux box. Bricked mine last night and had to jump through loops to bring it back.
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Get either the HTC ONE (I'm getting that) or the Optimus G. Avoid samsung.
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Get either the HTC ONE (I'm getting that) or the Optimus G. Avoid samsung.
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If you're getting the one don't get it right now. First batch of electronic devices usually come with a lot of defects
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If you're getting the one don't get it right now. First batch of electronic devices usually come with a lot of defects
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That's the fun of it for me, gives me the opportunity to give sprint a hard time for once!!!

thronnos said:
Get either the HTC ONE (I'm getting that) or the Optimus G. Avoid samsung.
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Why avoid samsung? The HTC one isnt exactly cheap right now...and the Optimus G just died completely

after all the info from u guys and more research, I'm leaning towards the galaxy s3 for now.
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CNexus said:
Why avoid samsung? The HTC one isnt exactly cheap right now...and the Optimus G just died completely
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Well the Optimus G didn't die.. It's practically the Nexus 4. If anyone has a GSM , you can change the partitions to be exactly like the Nexus 4 . Really neat if you ask me. They are having trouble with CM at the moment. Spectrum was exactly the same but once they get it working, development will get better, also I got my Droid 4 refurb in mail and woot woot it has no issues this time! Little bit of scratches on screen but oh well my last refurb had bad hepatic feedback and it wouldn't charge so I'll just take this one. I'm going to try to pick my project back up and get it finished for speedy. Also if anyone is going to Verizon looking for a keyboard phone, Droid 4 all the way love it and it seems to be their best keyboard. We did receive official JB (4.1.2) , it's really smooth.
Back to topic, spec wise the Optimus G all the way and the screen on it is sick. I know my Spectrum had a really good screen. The performance is better on my Droid 4 then my Spectrum. Droid 4 is Dual Core 1.2 GHz TI OMAP vs. Spectrum is Dual Core 1.5 Ghz S3. I think that is because of the processor type, but so far the Optimus G seems to be doing good on performance. Many people love their UI which I almost got booted on my Spectrum (The 4.1.2) , it sorta booted, I got to the homescreen but it locked up and restarted.
Optimus G Specs:
Operating system
Android 4.1
Battery information
2100 mAh
Talk time
Up to 13 Hours
Dimensions
5.19" x 2.71" x 0.33"
Display
4.7" 1280X768 (WXGA)
Weight
5.11 oz
Processor
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.5 GHz Quad Core
Memory
2GB RAM /32GB ROM
HTC One Specs:
Operating system
Android 4.1
Battery information
2300 mAh Battery
Talk time
19 hours
Dimensions
5.4" X 2.7" X .37"
Display
4.7" (1920 X 1080)
Weight
5.0 oz
Processor
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.7GHz quad-core processor
Memory
2 GB RAM / 32 GB ROM
GS3 Specs:
Operating system
Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean)
Battery information
2100 mAh Lithium Ion Battery
Talk time
Up to 9 Hours
Dimensions
5.4” x 2.8” x 0.3”
Display
4.8" (1280x720) HD Super AMOLED Touch Screen
Weight
4.7 oz
Processor
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.5 GHz Dual Core
Memory
16GB or 32GB ROM / 2GB RAM. Supports up to 64GB MicroSD card
I would go with a Quad core just because it'd last you longer..

The only thing I do not like about the Optimus G is the partitioning scheme. I have to go into an emulated sdcard and then find my file I. /0/Downloads or in /0/0/Downloads.
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so I'm still not sure now after all the specs u posted but for the rooting process,which one would be easy to root.
thanks MEGAGHOSTGAMER for all the specs to compare.
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bstangs1 said:
so I'm still not sure now after all the specs u posted but for the rooting process,which one would be easy to root.
thanks MEGAHOSTGAMER for all the specs to compare.
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The ONE is by far is the easiest to root in my opinion, it took me about 10 minutes!

I would like to get the one but can't afford it right now, so out of the S3 or LG Optimus G,which out of them is the easiest root process,thanx.
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bstangs1 said:
I would like to get the one but can't afford it right now, so out of the S3 or LG Optimus G,which out of them is the easiest root process,thanx.
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They are both 0$ on a upgrade, so this is a big decision lol. Their star rating is almost exactly the same. The big up the optimus G has over the S3 would be the processor. It's a S4 Krait Pro Quad Core (That just makes me want to swap back). There are already new version of both the GS3 (GS4) and the Optimus G (Optimus G Pro). Also if you are a big photo guy the Optimus G offers a 13mp camera vs the GS3 8mp camera. Talk time seems to do better on Optimus G with 12 Hours vs GS3 9 hours. As far as the rooting process I wouldn't know. My Spectrum was really easy to root, it was simple as a bat file on windows , you just hit a few buttons and bloop does all the work for you and if you ever need to restore a LG to 100% stock just hit me up on that, super easy (done it a lot of times) . As far as development , the GS3 wins. Any LG gives devs troubles, although I do see a sense port for the Optimus G. I'm sure there is one for the GS3 too. Your decision bro.

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They are both 0$ on a upgrade, so this is a big decision lol. Their star rating is almost exactly the same. The big up the optimus G has over the S3 would be the processor. It's a S4 Krait Pro Quad Core (That just makes me want to swap back). There are already new version of both the GS3 (GS4) and the Optimus G (Optimus G Pro). Also if you are a big photo guy the Optimus G offers a 13mp camera vs the GS3 8mp camera. Talk time seems to do better on Optimus G with 12 Hours vs GS3 9 hours. As far as the rooting process I wouldn't know. My Spectrum was really easy to root, it was simple as a bat file on windows , you just hit a few buttons and bloop does all the work for you and if you ever need to restore a LG to 100% stock just hit me up on that, super easy (done it a lot of times) . As far as development , the GS3 wins. Any LG gives devs troubles, although I do see a sense port for the Optimus G. I'm sure there is one for the GS3 too. Your decision bro.
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Yeah but the thing is, with some minor tweaks you can get massive battery life on the S3 and up to 7 hours screen on time (yes, screen on time). And when I say that the Optimus G died, I dont mean that its a bad phone, just that all the hype about the "quad-core" processor and stuff just died down and yeah. And there also aren't as many developers for the Optimus G as there are for the S3, so if you plan on rooting then that might be something you wanna consider. Also, the S3 will be getting a Sense port...either when I am able to get a new S3 because the one I had is now a pile of cracked electronics, or when this other developer gets started on it (xboxfanj, he did a Sense 2.1 port for the E4GT). And as for the new versions, like I said, the S3 will (and has already begun to) get most of the new features for the S4 because software-wise it wasn't a huge jump. So unless you really want the latest and greatest, the S3 is a fine option.
As for rooting the S3, the entire process essentially consists of flashing a recovery and then the su binary. And of course there are toolkits and guides and AIO's for it by now. I would also vouch for the S3 because in case a LOT of stuff goes wrong, theres still download mode (besides recovery) where you can connect it to your PC and flash a 100% stock (unrooted) rom and start from scratch.