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Tmobile's HSPA+ Network

For those of you who are confused about Tmo's HSPA+ network and making comments on it's durability, here is a link that is on Tmo's website. I figured I'd make it easy for those of you that can't seem to do research.
http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/hspa-mobile-broadband#
p.s. I have been in a couple of cities that carry HSPA+ right now and it's download speed from the interstate is around 4mbs. Remember peeps,IT'S NOT 4G. IT'S 4G LIKE. Quoted from Tmobile.

I am in an area that does not have HSPA+ and I pull down 4mb to 5mb all day long.
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Also keep in mind that no other carriers have 4g either.
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My area does have hspa+..well when I go out side cuz I don't even get reception in my apt..than again its a 3 story apt complex and I live in the bottom..but hspa+ or not the phone is still hella fast..loving it..lol
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ibemad1 said:
Also keep in mind that no other carriers have 4g either.
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No. I believe you are incorrect sir.. AT&T does have 4G network as well as Verizon implementing their LTE (Long Term Evolution) network which is also 4G. Not to mention Sprint.

ihateusernames said:
I am in an area that does not have HSPA+ and I pull down 4mb to 5mb all day long.
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I believe you. KC is pulling that however there are still parts of KC that pulls 3g and edge. I have done the speed tests on that area (3x each). I believe that areas that are mentioned to have HSPA+ are probably still being boosted seeing how the network is still kinda new. I have noticed some members posting their speed results in places like Texas and the results are phenomenal.

ihateusernames said:
I am in an area that does not have HSPA+ and I pull down 4mb to 5mb all day long.
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Same. Except right now in one of my stores... I hardly have EDGE here. :\

mdayjr said:
I believe you. KC is pulling that however there are still parts of KC that pulls 3g and edge. I have done the speed tests on that area (3x each). I believe that areas that are mentioned to have HSPA+ are probably still being boosted seeing how the network is still kinda new. I have noticed some members posting their speed results in places like Texas and the results are phenomenal.
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Yep. I can attest to that. At work, the HSPA+ speed is beautiful. I can browse endlessly while tethering.
Although for some reason at home it says I have HSPA+ yet I lose data constantly, and it goes from HSPA+ to Edge, totally skipping 3G. Either way, I have no complaints since I can just use WiFi. It has worked well everywhere else since I got the phone.

I have reach 7.46 megs on my g2 I think that 4g
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according to the map, i'm in an area with Very Fast Speed internet. I've maxed at 2mb/s though

None of the technologies available now are 4G, LTE isn't, and neither is WiMax, they are not capable of 100mbps download speeds, WiMax 2 and LTE plus are 4G networks and they won't be implemented till 2013, please get your facts straight. I got these facts from the comission that actually names the technologies. Google it
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mdayjr said:
No. I believe you are incorrect sir.. AT&T does have 4G network as well as Verizon implementing their LTE (Long Term Evolution) network which is also 4G. Not to mention Sprint.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20020365-266.html
No 4G yet.

ThaGeNeCySt said:
according to the map, i'm in an area with Very Fast Speed internet. I've maxed at 2mb/s though
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That map is awful. All of downtown Baltimore shows very fast, but I know of one tower in particular that is only UMTS, not HSPA. It would be nice to see a map of the coverage by data type instead of those vague speed descriptions.
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In NYC I pretty much get 2-3 mbit everywhere.
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skiptomylou11 said:
Although for some reason at home it says I have HSPA+ yet I lose data constantly, and it goes from HSPA+ to Edge, totally skipping 3G. Either way, I have no complaints since I can just use WiFi. It has worked well everywhere else since I got the phone.
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Even though the G2 has the icon for 3G, it doesn't use it. It groups it with the "H" so it's either using 3G or HSPA+. I'm using the Mobile Signal Widget to have it accurately tell me if I'm using 3G or HSPA+.
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What app is that
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these are my speeds at 3AM i normally get 3.5-6mbps during the day
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Damn, I'm really envious of those speeds. Sometimes I'll be sitting on 0.65 Mbps if I'm lucky. My College was able to get me around 3.5 Mbps in one spot. The cons of living in Hawai'i. We get our technology last and even then, it's not amazing.
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Eliteranger12 said:
What app is that
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Search the Market for "Mobile Signal Widget". Its the first result. Its from Empirical
Don't mean to be rude but that would be my first step when looking for an app...
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20020365-266.html
No 4G yet.
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I stand corrected sir. Touche. Good find.
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LTE Speeds on AT&T

Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

Good god that 4G LTE logo is ugly.
edit:for the record, I don't like verizon's either.

Come on. You mean to tell me that the Verizon "Data Card" bownloading at 50Mbps beats a phone downloading at 40Mbps. Look at the upload. Nowhere even close. NYC has DAS units all over. I'm not on NYC and you can't argue the upload. I can find a spot to show 50 if you want but I just did a random test and got these results. Just thought I'd share. Again. This is on a phone. Not a dedicated data card.
gasolara2002 said:
I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Regardless of which is better or not, I'm glad at&t is finally rolling out LTE.
I don't expect you to be able to answer these questions, but is the device you're using coming out before the end of the year and do you know if at&t plans to offer unlimited LTE data for a short period like verizon did?

Question - why does anyone give a crap? What good is that 40 Mbps doing you. Nothing on the phone will ever make use of that. Even if you are tethering to a computer it isn't nearly as useful as those speeds would be on a home broadband connection due to the data caps. At 40 Mbps you would go through a full month's 4 GB tethering package data allotment in about 13 minutes! What a joke.

considering this is on a fairly loaded network that is running in well over 5 cities I'd say its pretty good :-D

Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.

wow
amazing speeds you get there, I don't even get close

Great question. We all would like to know that one
Longcat14 said:
Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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nate2569 said:
I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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Alright, that's fine that you can't tell us, don't mind.
But just tell me, are we going to see LTE phones anytime soon, and if AT&T wants to speed up HSPA+ devices, they need to turn on 64QAM.
^relay that one to them for me.

VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?

donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?
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Lowest for Verizon is 2GB.
But the guy said they would raise the caps... I have unlimited data, so I hope I get that on LTE also...

Need I say more Mr Verizon sees 50 Mbps?
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nate2569 said:
Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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Holy crap, is that for real?
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donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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nate2569 said:
I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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Of course speeds will go down with traffic, we just don't know how much.
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SGH-i727 Galaxy Nexus II LTE? Wish the At&t/Tmo merger goes through and we get the Galaxy Nexus LTE version. I have two upgrades and want something new for Christmas. LOL.

10 Mbps HSPA with AT&T on Atrix 4G

For the first time today I have experienced close to 10 Mbps download with AT&T for cellular download. This is pretty amazing. It tells me that:
- Additional T1 back haul are being added to increase bandwidth capacity
OR
- T3 back haul is being implemented for lte footprimt
The good news is that those of us with HSPA devices get increased bandwidth.
These test were conducted today at 4:30 pm, outdoors near West Farms Mall, West Hartford, CT USA on AT&T on the Motorola Atrix running epinter's. CM10.
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HSPA:10 = HSPA Cat 10 = up to 14.4 Mbps
Edit: more info on hspa here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912716
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As my town just finally gets 3G, a slow 2mbps 3G.

That's very impressive! I'm in Australia with what is supposed to be the best mobile network and I get 1.5Mbps on the Atrix using epinter 4.1.1
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Awesome. Probably all the sheep moving to their new LTE pastures, freeing up HSPA for other devices.
Sadly still 3.5 down, 1 up for me.

Jotokun said:
Awesome. Probably all the sheep moving to their new LTE pastures, freeing up HSPA for other devices.
Sadly still 3.5 down, 1 up for me.
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No lte here yet. Possibly building bandwidth for the launch or just for what will always be higher data usage as time goes by. What I do know is that At&t lte is based on full t3 to the tower (45 Mbps).
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I get 7 down 2 up here in podunk Ohio.
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I am at 8.5m/1.6m in France.
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tested mine today, a few miles north of downtown Seattle, WA... 1.7Mbps up, 1Mbps down. :crying:
any other Seattleites on here? is it just me, or are AT&T data speeds $*** here?

fischwrap said:
tested mine today, a few miles north of downtown Seattle, WA... 1.7Mbps up, 1Mbps down. :crying:
any other Seattleites on here? is it just me, or are AT&T data speeds $*** here?
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well south of seatle to portland i range 5+mb/s download and 2mb/s up. i cannot deny 500-800KB/s but lte is just installed for us. and they installed a tower but maybe. 5 miles away thats lte ready. woot

fischwrap said:
tested mine today, a few miles north of downtown Seattle, WA... 1.7Mbps up, 1Mbps down. :crying:
any other Seattleites on here? is it just me, or are AT&T data speeds $*** here?
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Ciloteille said:
well south of seatle to portland i range 5+mb/s download and 2mb/s up. i cannot deny 500-800KB/s but lte is just installed for us. and they installed a tower but maybe. 5 miles away thats lte ready. woot
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I have had the same experience in Seattle. Portland is also pretty slow.

I enjoy a rare 5Mbps download speed twice a year. Every other day of the year I never pull out more than 300kbps. It's ****ing terrible. Everyone else's phone makes mine look terrible. And I have AT&T's faux 4g here. And I live in a capital city of 300000 people!

I'm in Chicago, and I'm averaging 3-6mb on BOTH my Atrix and SGSII. I doubt that I'll see 10 anytime soon here, oh well...
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I'm in Phoenix here. Recently at my office my speeds dropped to about 1.5mbps down and 1.0mbps up. It's now back up. Yesterday was 5.3mbps and 1.1mbps up and today it's at 6.3mbps down and 1.25mbps up.
I think the slight dip was due to my work being on the edge of the Phoenix LTE zone and they are supposedly pushing it past the line. I live in the heart of Phoenix though and didn't see the change (Home I get a steady 3.0mbps and the old stand by of 1mbps up)

Anyone care to post your connection info, carrier name and location?
System Settings, About Phone, Status, Mobile Network Type
I'll go first...
HSPA:10, AT&T, West Hartford CT, USA
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jjwatmyself said:
Anyone care to post your connection info, carrier name and location?
System Settings, About Phone, Status, Mobile Network Type
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HSPA:10, AT&T, West Hartford CT, USA
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HSPA:10, T mob, Mayflower Steps, Plymouth, UK

HSPA:10, Claro, Brazil

I am running about 4300 down and 489 up...

Spokane, Wa here. Just checked and got one of the best results I've had yet. AT&T, 4.4 down, 1.9 up. The usual result is about 3.2 down and 1.1 up.

Crazy..
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HSPA, Straight Talk, Los Angeles.
Speed is anywhere from 3-4600 down, 1000 up.

T-Mobile data issues in NE Florida?

Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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I am...
JaylanPHNX said:
Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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I'm on Fleming Island and the best I can get is Edge, and it's inconsistant. I really wanted this $30 plan to work for me, but I have my doubts now. What good is unlimited data if you can't access it? I also have a Straight Talk (AT&T) sim, which does much better but costs $20 more per month. I'm going to talk to the folks at the T-Mo store and see what they have to say.

I can't say anythign about where you are at, sorry.
I have the $30 dollar plan too. And I am pretty new with it. I traveled to Iowa this last weekend... I had no data at all pretty much all weekend.
T-Mobile's coverage is just not good, once outside any lager metro areas. Back in Charlotte (where I live now) the data speeds are usually very good. But even in Charlotte proper there are spots that are dead. I was used to Verizon before this and I knew coverage wasn't going to be the same on T-Mobile. But for now, I am still happy with saving over a 1000 dollars per year over Verizon between me and my wife.
It's a good deal... but the coverage is not like Verzion or even ATT... that is for sure.

JaylanPHNX said:
Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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Yep, I've been having problems in Tampa. Even though the signal is fine, the data connection seems to drop out. Can't figure out if it's T-Mobile or my phone.

Im in sw florida right between Sarasota and Fort Myers and my data has been intermittent the last 2 days saying its connected but no data goes though then it will work fine. And ive been on edge alot, only had tmo for 3 days but when i was with them 2+ years ago i was definitely getting better reception than what ive seen so far.

Hmm, seems like maybe a Florida issue then. I've got the same thing, good signal (2-4 bars) but poor/inconsistent data. Streaming from Tune In Radio has been an exercise in frustration this week, when prior it was fine. I wonder if they're just doing network improvement/overhaul, or if something's wrong. I'm on Straight Talk and I'm seriously considering an AT&T SIM.
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I dont think straight talk sells att sims anymore. Not on their website at least.

They still do, they're just out of supplies. At least that's the last thing I read about that.
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When I am at my Mom's house in Edgewater, east coast just south of Daytona and the data is terrible. Most of the time its edge network. I've noticed pretty much anything coastal is hit or miss with Tmobile. I can be driving my boat down the Intercoastal waterway and get hspa+ for a mile then nothing but edge the rest of the way.

I'm in Orange Park and get great service. Coming from Verizon it is just as fast, if not faster. I rarely have an issue with signal either.
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Im thinking that tmo must be doing something with their network because tonight ive been switching between 3g and H+ over and over. I live like right next to the tower too so I always have full service where I live.

Last week I could stream internet radio with no trouble at all, but this week I can't go more than five minutes. My wife, in a different area of Jax, is having the same issues.
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ticklemegavin said:
Im thinking that tmo must be doing something with their network because tonight ive been switching between 3g and H+ over and over. I live like right next to the tower too so I always have full service where I live.
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T-Mobile is doing a ton of stuff with the network I know this because I work for them. Also, this phone only says H+
when its actually using data so you may just be seeing that... We are installing LTE towers in big cities right now too.
We just put one on top of our building a couple days ago...

Good to know i just came from Verizon and im used to the phone just staying on 4g instead of connecting on demand. You know if there will be any LTE in the near future in sw florida?

ZeroG1 said:
Yep, I've been having problems in Tampa. Even though the signal is fine, the data connection seems to drop out. Can't figure out if it's T-Mobile or my phone.
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Happening to me too. I'm in Hernando County.

ticklemegavin said:
Good to know i just came from Verizon and im used to the phone just staying on 4g instead of connecting on demand. You know if there will be any LTE in the near future in sw florida?
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Honestly I don't know, but do expect a nationwide rollout of T Mobile LTE starting sometime this year

Amazing...I'm next door to you in Fleming Island and its horrible. Rarely get data outside of WiFi. Hope it improves as I love the $30 plan...if it'd just work
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I doubt things are going to get better in places like Fleming Island. T-Mobile has seemingly never been very interested in expanding its network, merely improving what's already there in core markets.
As for my issue of a sudden dip in reliability, my data connection seems to have gone back to normal these last couple days, which supports the theory that they were working on maintenance or overhaul.
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I'm in Jacksonville and I get pretty good data. Sometimes it does drop to 2-5mbps in spotty areas. But I'm generally between 12-20mbps. This blows away my old service and i couldn't be happier.
Edit: here's a few tests done in a few different areas.
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Ashwind said:
I'm in Jacksonville and I get pretty good data. Sometimes it does drop to 2-5mbps in spotty areas. But I'm generally between 12-20mbps. This blows away my old service and i couldn't be happier.
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Lucky!
I get the 2-5 in my house like... always. I usually have to go to a somewhat busier area to get at least like 16 and up. Usually at intersections like Beach and Hodges, Atlantic and Kernan... or maybe even the St. John's Town Center. If you're familiar with those. :silly:
I've always had crappy service IN my house though.
JaylanPHNX, you still having issues?

I'm thinking of dropping AT&T for T-mobile how is LTE coverage in L.I./NYC?

I'm thinking of dropping att for t-mobile. Any one in long island/NYC think this is a good choice? How is your LTE coverage and overall experience in New York?
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You could check the coverage maps online
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I did and according to them everything is excellent of course. I'm looking for some real world experience and advice from anyone who has switched. I may try it for a month and see. I just have 10 days or so before I can terminate my contract or else I'm stuck for 2 years.
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mrbungle999 said:
I did and according to them everything is excellent of course. I'm looking for some real world experience and advice from anyone who has switched. I may try it for a month and see. I just have 10 days or so before I can terminate my contract or else I'm stuck for 2 years.
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From what I hear (and have witnessed) T-Mobile is very good in many cases better than AT&T/Verizon in major cities due to site density (spacing between towers). However, outside major cities and a lot of highways between them is only 2G (Edge) or no connection at all. If you're going postpaid - AT&T does have some roaming agreements with T-Mobile that the online maps will show coverage for.

I'm with T-Mobile in Palm Beach Florida and were moving to Manhattan in two weeks, I've been enjoying 30mps LTE here no matter where I travel in the 3 counties around. I would imagine NYC and its boroughs being the epicenter of all phone releases as well as a testing and proving ground for all tech would be the best place to get premier coverage, anyway I hope that's the case. I'm only concerned about the city myself and I've been told that not only should I get the same results but they are upgrading their LTE in several cities, NY being one of them and the speeds will be bumped up to over 60mps down and over 15mps up.
I was previously with Sprint and I couldn't even get a data connection with them half the time, luckily I had great speeds in my house but just a mile away nada and that was the case all over, talking here in Palm Beach now.
One thing T-mobile told me was to keep data roaming on, this had nothing to do with spotty coverage, they were trouble shooting my daughter's iPhone 5 with me that they ended up replacing but she said there are no roaming fees and to keep roaming on for data and voice. Also no throttling on your unlimited data on the higher plan, its 10 dollars more. I get like 4.5 gigs for tethering with it but I do way more than that and I didn't want it throttled, I use a little trick so my tethering appears to be regular data usage to them. Sprint never said anything either about my astronomical data usage, I wouldn't know about the others. I probably use close to 2 hundred gigs a month tethering not counting not tethered.
This screenshot is one day of tethering usage.
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Damn. What are you doing with all that data? Downloading the Pentagon database? Lol
I wonder if they would let me test drive with a SIM for a week. I am mostly in long island but travel to the city often. I have 1 friend who had t-mobile but he didn't even know how to open his browser so.....he just said it worked ok so Idk. Everyone here is on att or Verizon so that might be a clue.
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Damn. What are you doing with all that data? Downloading the Pentagon database? Lol
I wonder if they would let me test drive with a SIM for a week. I am mostly in long island but travel to the city often. I have 1 friend who had t-mobile but he didn't even know how to open his browser so.....he just said it worked ok so Idk. Everyone here is on att or Verizon so that might be a clue.
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There are no contracts with Tmo so you can easily try it out. You would need an AWS compatible phone to try their network. What is the return period in NY for phones? CA has a 30 day return period, you should be able to test it at least a week and return the phone if it doesn't work.
I have a friend in Manhattan who has not tried T-Mobile even though I've tried to get him to. He ditched AT&T for Verizon and found it to be just as bad as AT&T in the city. Too many people he says, so LTE speeds can be pretty bad. He's going back to AT&T because they are cheaper and at least when there's no LTE he can fall back on HSPA vs EVDO.
When I was in NYC in May, I had my Nexus 4 with me and I don't remember having any issues at all. At JFK I know my BF's AT&T iPhone had unusable data, so I turned my hotspot on for him to use. I don't remember how much LTE I saw, but back in May, NYC was not an official LTE market.
You will probably find that T-Mobile also has issues, they all have a limited amount of spectrum, but at least with T-Mobile you won't be paying as much, and when you have good data you can use as much as you want.
Between San Diego and LA, I get some odd Edge only spots but most of the time I have at least HSPA+ which is usually very good, and LTE is being turned on everywhere and I can usually get 30 mbps down and 10 mbps up. Works great for me, and I use between 10-15 GB per month with no tethering.

Spent a week in LIC, traveled to Brooklyn, West Side, SoHo (LTE was in and out here), Manhattan all with no problems, had full LTE everywhere... no dropped calls or anything. Dull note, my Nexus 4 had modded radios for LTE.

I'm in port Jeff/Setauket, I gotta go like past hauppague to get LTE
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You can try tmo for14 days and still get a refund
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I've talked to a couple of people out here and they weren't too happy with the coverage and they ended up switching back to v and att. I think I will take your advice and try it for a week and see. I have till the 12th to figure it out.
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