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HEllo there,
I need to buy a new miniSD card for my P3600.
Therefore, I would like to know the bandwidth of the card reader of P3600, in order to choose wisely the best card for it.
If the badwidth is only 5MB/s, then it's not worthy to buy a card which is 80x...
Another question is: will I loose performance if I decide to go for a 4GB card?...I have this doubt because the bigger the card, bigger the mapping of it ...Therefore, more processing power is necessary...
I think is very usefull information for anybody that needs to buy a card for this device...and for that, all help would be much appreciated
Thank you
Probably you have heard all those SD file corruption stories, haven't you?
Nowadays memory cards are real damn cheap - even if it's 80x. But I guess you would want to find the most "compatible" card instead of finding the card with "just right speed".
It's almost for sure that the life span of your card will far exceed your device. The card can be reused - why not buy a better one, stability issues aside.
4GB cards usually come in the SDHC flavors - which doesn't always work as expected since Trinity only comes with partial SDHC support at best, not to mention the corruption bug.... Again you should worry more about compatibility than it's speed...
the program pocket mechanics let you benchmark and compare with other brands in other phones
with normal sd the pda is the bottleneck suspect the same goes for microSD
but read and write is never at the same speed for flash
and suspect the interface in the pda is able to write as fast as it can read of the card can keep up
ww2250 said:
Probably you have heard all those SD file corruption stories, haven't you?
Nowadays memory cards are real damn cheap - even if it's 80x. But I guess you would want to find the most "compatible" card instead of finding the card with "just right speed".
It's almost for sure that the life span of your card will far exceed your device. The card can be reused - why not buy a better one, stability issues aside.
4GB cards usually come in the SDHC flavors - which doesn't always work as expected since Trinity only comes with partial SDHC support at best, not to mention the corruption bug.... Again you should worry more about compatibility than it's speed...
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I don't remember of asking anything regarding compatibility...
My question was regarding the speed...and it still remains:
-Whats the speed of Trinity card reader bus?
-Will I loose performance with a 4GB card?
I already know about the compatibility issues...but if there's no performance issues with a 4GB card, I can buy one of each brand, and see which one is compatible...if any...
I don't think that my questions are stupid, but if you think so, then keeps the thoughts for yourself please.
Regards,
s1rl4ncel0t said:
I don't think that my questions are stupid, but if you think so, then keeps the thoughts for yourself please.
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I don't remember anyone ever said your questions are stupid, but if you think so, then read the whole thread again. Really, that would a disaster if we all follow your logic - anyone who did not reply or did not exactly reply what you ask for would think that your questions are stupid, then basically everyone in this forum would fall into this category.
We are trying to be nice in replying your question, knowing that you are relatively new to the forum, and pointing to you there might be potential problems that you want to avoid when making a purchase decision. At least, I think this is even a more valuable advice for those who want to buy new cards especially for beginners, than just considering alone the speed.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
I already know about the compatibility issues...but if there's no performance issues with a 4GB card, I can buy one of each brand, and see which one is compatible...if any...
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So now, we all know that you are not stupid nor asking stupid questions, then how about if you buy one of each speed, and do a benchmark yourself and then post the results back and share your precious experience with all others? It would be invaluable to your fellow readers especially for those who want to buy a new card.
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So now, we all know that you are not stupid nor asking stupid questions, then how about if you buy one of each speed, and do a benchmark yourself and then post the results back and share your precious experience with all others? It would be invaluable to your fellow readers especially for those who want to buy a new card.
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Answer my question, and who knows, I'll do it
Sorry about my rude answer...but it pisses me off, when a threads starts talking about oranges and finishes up talking about apples....
Any way...it seems like we are always changing roms, searching for the best performance, but at the end, we don't know the speed of the biggest bottleneck in the pda...
It's August...seems like all experts are in holidays
Anyone here that could give additional info?
I have a chance to get a Droid X in "mint" condition today for about $75 and I'm considering it, but I wanted to ask a few basic questions that I wanted to just consolidate into one post instead of dropping questions all over the place in various threads. I did spend a few hours doing thread research and reading here and HowardForums and the Rootzwiki (and Cyanogenmod as well) so here goes:
- I'm assuming the bootloader is still locked on the Droid X as I see/saw threads with people doing a petition (like that's gonna change anything), so what exactly does that mean for the Droid X overall - I see some custom ROMs available so I'm confused: I thought having a locked bootloader meant you couldn't have custom ROMs or, are they all running from the microSD card?
- for anyone that bought a Droid X and used the stock ROM(s) from Verizon, does using a custom ROM (if you do so) help the battery life at all, and to what degree (and how bad/good is/was the stock ROM battery life anyway?)?
- I saw mention of ICS in several instances, and also along with some ROMs but, there doesn't seem to be a full fledged ICS ROM available (or is Liberty just such a thing?) so, are the chances high that ICS will never be fully fleshed out for the Droid X? I think I saw mention that there's "some" ROM now with ICS features but isn't the full fledged build, and that the camera doesn't work at all... just hoping for clarification on this. If it's an issue of "at some point we'll have ICS working proper, completely" then I suppose it's worth taking a chance now.
- Last question: would people think that $75 for a Droid X in near "mint" condition (seller's comment, haven't actually held it in my hand yet), a memory card (unknown size but most likely the stock 2GB card), and the charger/USB card is a somewhat decent deal? I've gone through several HD2's over the years and run all sorts of OSes on it, and while it arguably is the best damned enthusiast phone ever created, I am currently on the lookout for something different - can't afford a brand new dual core monster phone (I really want that Samsung Galaxy Note but it'll probably never happen).
While the Droid X is getting older, it seems like it's still a somewhat useful device overall so I'm really leaning towards getting this.
Any advice, info, or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Edit: the X came with a 16gb [not 2]card, btw...so make sure to ask for that if you can.
br0adband said:
I have a chance to get a Droid X in "mint" condition today for about $75 and I'm considering it, but I wanted to ask a few basic questions that I wanted to just consolidate into one post instead of dropping questions all over the place in various threads. I did spend a few hours doing thread research and reading here and HowardForums and the Rootzwiki (and Cyanogenmod as well) so here goes:
- I'm assuming the bootloader is still locked on the Droid X as I see/saw threads with people doing a petition (like that's gonna change anything), so what exactly does that mean for the Droid X overall - I see some custom ROMs available so I'm confused: I thought having a locked bootloader meant you couldn't have custom ROMs or, are they all running from the microSD card?
- for anyone that bought a Droid X and used the stock ROM(s) from Verizon, does using a custom ROM (if you do so) help the battery life at all, and to what degree (and how bad/good is/was the stock ROM battery life anyway?)?
- I saw mention of ICS in several instances, and also along with some ROMs but, there doesn't seem to be a full fledged ICS ROM available (or is Liberty just such a thing?) so, are the chances high that ICS will never be fully fleshed out for the Droid X? I think I saw mention that there's "some" ROM now with ICS features but isn't the full fledged build, and that the camera doesn't work at all... just hoping for clarification on this. If it's an issue of "at some point we'll have ICS working proper, completely" then I suppose it's worth taking a chance now.
- Last question: would people think that $75 for a Droid X in near "mint" condition (seller's comment, haven't actually held it in my hand yet), a memory card (unknown size but most likely the stock 2GB card), and the charger/USB card is a somewhat decent deal? I've gone through several HD2's over the years and run all sorts of OSes on it, and while it arguably is the best damned enthusiast phone ever created, I am currently on the lookout for something different - can't afford a brand new dual core monster phone (I really want that Samsung Galaxy Note but it'll probably never happen).
While the Droid X is getting older, it seems like it's still a somewhat useful device overall so I'm really leaning towards getting this.
Any advice, info, or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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A locked bootloader means no custom kernels...
But with the 2nd-init this means next to nothing that is negative for us.
We can run CM7, MIUI, and ICS.
These are 2nd-init roms that don't use any of Motorola's framework.
EncounterICS is definitely a daily driver rom...if you don't mind missing out on your camera.
This is the stock ICS experience.
Cm7 is fantastic.
Everything works.
Miui is fantastic.
Everything works.
Liberty and the other roms are 1st-init...meaning they use blur framework...and varying amounts of blur features...depending on the rom.
Battery?
On 2nd-init...we're at about stock levels.
1st-init may get slightly better than stock.
The X gets pretty darn decent battery life anyway...I wouldn't worry about it.
Our ICS ports might not have a working camera for quite some time...
But I'm sure they'll get there.
Is it a good buy?
I'd say yes.
The X has these features missing from the current top-tier phones...
4G
NFC
Front facing camera
Dual core.
We can even spoof the market into letting us download dual core games...
And overclock and use Chainfire3D to run said games.
It's a surprisingly nice phone...
If we had an unlocked bootloader...we'd have a fully functional ICS already.
But that's something for the devs to work on...and it really has no effect on us aside from a longer wait.
Check my sig for DX specific rom/root/tuts if you end up getting it.
Sorry for jumping all over the place...writing this on my phone!
Came with 16GB originally, really? Damn that would be nice, but I won't find out till later today when I meet to get my hands on it. That would be awesome if it was one of the original ones but, I don't want to get my hopes up for it. Hell, Fry's carries 16GB microSD cards under $20 most every day now so it's not like it'll be a lot of money to get one.
No worries about the jumping all over the place - I've been online since 1977 (seriously, at a whopping 50 baud!) so I can keep up with disjointed thoughts and whatever.
As for the "missing features" on top tier phones, none of those are relevant to me at all, as weird as that might sound. I'm in Las Vegas and we're fairly blanketed here for 4G coverage but, I think that kind of speed (when it works) for cell/smart phones is still just a gimmick but that's just me.
So a solid CM7 ROM might be the best for me to get started I suppose. The owner texted me earlier to set the meeting time (another few hours) and confirmed she did reset the phone to factory condition which iirc means it's at the Android screen which means it's waiting to be activated - can you or anyone else confirm that the old 4-corner trick will bypass that activation so I can get into it and verify everything works? I probably won't bother with the actual activation anytime soon unless I find some good local pricing here in my area, but being able to demo the phone and make sure everything works is an absolute must.
And thanks for the response, the info was very helpful.
I'd agree with ya there.
We've yet to get 4G in my area...but even connecting to WiFi loading web pages takes about the same time...not like I'm downloading 3gig torrents on my phone.
But yes, 4-corners works.
Edit: Do an esn check too.
I think there are online tools to do so.
Or possibly calling Verizon if need be.
Calling ##program will bring I believe...or check behind the battery.
(I'm actually on a loaner right now...getting my phone repaired through Best Buy...so I can't verify this.)
So I got the Droid X, it's in great condition but certainly not "mint" (people always say that and I don't think most know what mint actually implies - it should practically untouched by human hands).
Anyway, that CheckESNFree.com site says this one is clean and ready for activation so that's a plus, if that site is dependable of course. Always have to worry that someone would be creating a database of ESNs/ESIDs/IMEIs for some dastardly and nefarious purposes!!!
It's definitely a LOT snappier than my HD2 (listed in my sig) but it's also a slightly better internal architecture than the HD2 was, of course. Everything seems to function fine, not sure where to start so I'll much with it for the evening and see what gives. Came with a very tiny HTC 5V USB adapter, the original Motorola USB cable, and a separate USB charger as well.
Oh, and it does have the 16GB microSD card in it too.
I'm the admin/founder/owner of CheckESNFree.com
I can assure you that we do NOT log/store/record ESNs in any way shape or form.
We process roughly 14,000 ESNs per day, and we have a huge following of supporters, including places such as ReCellular, Gazelle, and FastLaneWireless.
Hi there, these days I'm going to sell my Htc Hd2 and I would like to buy a tablet with android.I'm searching the internets for tablets and the Kindle Fire ...well I think it's the best choice for my budget.
I would like to ask some questions about this device. How does it work with the stock rom, no android market is kinda lame and I also live in Romania so I guess Amazon does not support my country and I'm going to have a lots of problems with their market/services. So I was thinking I'm going to root the tablet , install ICS and so I'm not controlled anymore by Amazon.
My questions are the following: how does it run under Custom Roms, can it match a native android 4.0 tablet? What bugs does the ICS have, browsing the android dev. forums for this device I found that Hardware Acceleration is hacked, does flash is working with ICS? And I would also like you guys to tell me about more bugs that I missed. (also if there is a Gingerbread or Honeycomb rom for it that works fine-without many bugs)
Thank you(sorry for my English).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558010
Generally it can be recommended because simplicity of customization, but:
No external SD card,
Only 4G memory,
Only 512M RAM,
No microphone and camera.
No bluetooth.
Currently no USB host.
External microphone can be used with voice recorder and google voice and control.
Skype currently not recognized external microphone.
Stock ROM is nice and fast, but has too many limitation even rooted.
For now I use CM7. It stable and nice. CM9 still has problems. Kernel 3.x still under preliminary development.
As conclusion I recommend to wait for a few months and buy some cheap tablet that currently under development on many manufacturers as answer to Kindle Fire.
These hopefully may be sold at price about $250 - $300.
Maybe it's a stupid question to many, but... I have the chance to order a 32gb korean version of the S4 off Taobao.com, and since I live in China it's quite convenient. The only issue I have is that I refuse to use an android phone without rooting it, and I've been a happy Wanam user for a long time on my S3.
The taobao seller states that 16gb ROMs CANNOT be used for 32gb models AT ALL, but I know better than blindly trusting ignorant Chinese vendors who usually don't know what they are talking about (personal experience).
It does not matter whether it's 9500, 9505 or whatever, this seller has all the models (even 9508 dual sim), I just want to understand if SIZE is a problem or not... Will I be able to just simply root it, and keep using the stock ROM at least? Or maybe I'll even be able to install ANY 16gb ROM of my choice? Or none of the above???
Thanks!
P.S. I searched the S4 forums but found no reference at all to this question...
UoMoTaLpA said:
Maybe it's a stupid question to many, but... I have the chance to order a 32gb korean version of the S4 off Taobao.com, and since I live in China it's quite convenient. The only issue I have is that I refuse to use an android phone without rooting it, and I've been a happy Wanam user for a long time on my S3.
The taobao seller states that 16gb ROMs CANNOT be used for 32gb models AT ALL, but I know better than blindly trusting ignorant Chinese vendors who usually don't know what they are talking about (personal experience).
It does not matter whether it's 9500, 9505 or whatever, this seller has all the models (even 9508 dual sim), I just want to understand if SIZE is a problem or not... Will I be able to just simply root it, and keep using the stock ROM at least? Or maybe I'll even be able to install ANY 16gb ROM of my choice? Or none of the above???
Thanks!
P.S. I searched the S4 forums but found no reference at all to this question...
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As long as you're flashing a i9505 ROM to an i9505-like(aka U.S. Carriers variants) device, and an i9500 ROM to an i9500-like device, you'll be just fine. Don't try to flash unlike devices(i.e. i9505 to i9500) though. Best case scenario, the flash will fail. Worst case, you'll brick the device.
Internal storage capacity has never, to my knowledge, had anything to do with what you could or could not flash.
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As long as you're flashing a i9505 ROM to an i9505-like(aka U.S. Carriers variants) device, and an i9500 ROM to an i9500-like device, you'll be just fine. Don't try to flash unlike devices(i.e. i9505 to i9500) though. Best case scenario, the flash will fail. Worst case, you'll brick the device.
Internal storage capacity has never, to my knowledge, had anything to do with what you could or could not flash.
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That would be my same guess, although the seller was adamant to the fact that it won't absolutely work (he even declared that he tried himself...). Though I agree with you, I'll wait for some concrete proof, when 32 and 64 gb versions will be more widely available, or at least until someone comes out with a first-person experience of this.
Anyway, thanks
UoMoTaLpA said:
That would be my same guess, although the seller was adamant to the fact that it won't absolutely work (he even declared that he tried himself...). Though I agree with you, I'll wait for some concrete proof, when 32 and 64 gb versions will be more widely available, or at least until someone comes out with a first-person experience of this.
Anyway, thanks
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I don't want to call the guy out... but that seller has some very funny ideas; likely he was trying to flash unlike devices. If you want further feedback, I'd suggest posting this question over in the AT&T forums since the 32gb is more widely released. Further, from my past experiences, I've successfully flashed ROMs intended for the Developer Edition(64gb) of the HTC One onto my 32gb.
Let's say, hypothetically, he's correct--the developers who create the ROMs would be required to, perhaps not by forum rules but more so out of "I'm not responsible if you do this," declare their ROMs only usable by certain phones with certain storage capacities?
I will applaud you for taking your time, reading, and doing research before jumping into the fray. Is this your first phone you've rooted?
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I don't want to call the guy out... but that seller has some very funny ideas; likely he was trying to flash unlike devices. If you want further feedback, I'd suggest posting this question over in the AT&T forums since the 32gb is more widely released. Further, from my past experiences, I've successfully flashed ROMs intended for the Developer Edition(64gb) of the HTC One onto my 32gb.
Let's say, hypothetically, he's correct--the developers who create the ROMs would be required to, perhaps not by forum rules but more so out of "I'm not responsible if you do this," declare their ROMs only usable by certain phones with certain storage capacities?
I will applaud you for taking your time, reading, and doing research before jumping into the fray. Is this your first phone you've rooted?
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Not at all, I rooted my first HTC Legend years ago, then my current S3,and so on. Happy user of Wanamlite ROM on my current S3 at the moment. Anyway, I guess our idea is correct. Not to belittle the vendor's experience, but in MY experience PRC people can be quite often very ignorant, or appear so at the very least, and declare the impossibility of an action or a request just to avoid any sort of responsibility in case the crap hits the fan... Think it as a sort of "ultimate disclaimer": I told you not to do it, so if you try and break it it's your problem.
After saying all this, I guess I'm in no rush since my S3 is still working like a charm after more than one year, I'm just exploring the S4 alley since I bough a SUPERCOOL Nolan bluetooth helmet for my bike, I use 2 sim cards at the same time (1 personal=S3, 1 work=HTClegend) and the HTC Legend's bluetooth is sort of fried So I was looking for a way to upgrade things.
I'll follow your suggestion and try to post in the AT&T section as well.
Thanks!
Hi, I'm posting this as a cloned discussion from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42326387
as it's been suggested to me that this section might be more appropriate for my question.
UoMoTaLpA said:
Maybe it's a stupid question to many, but... I have the chance to order a 32gb korean version of the S4 off Taobao.com, and since I live in China it's quite convenient. The only issue I have is that I refuse to use an android phone without rooting it, and I've been a happy Wanam user for a long time on my S3.
The taobao seller states that 16gb ROMs CANNOT be used for 32gb models AT ALL, but I know better than blindly trusting ignorant Chinese vendors who usually don't know what they are talking about (personal experience).
It does not matter whether it's 9500, 9505 or whatever, this seller has all the models (even 9508 dual sim), I just want to understand if SIZE is a problem or not... Will I be able to just simply root it, and keep using the stock ROM at least? Or maybe I'll even be able to install ANY 16gb ROM of my choice? Or none of the above???
Thanks!
P.S. I searched the S4 forums but found no reference at all to this question...
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A brief discussion with user "unremarked" (thanks man!) hints to the fact that any inter-size flash should be theoretically possible, but I'm still hoping for some first-hand experience from you guys.
Thanks
I don't know what the sd card capacity has to do with it. Shouldn't make any difference. Are these knock offs he's selling? (I won't get into what I think of that)
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I don't know what the sd card capacity has to do with it. Shouldn't make any difference. Are these knock offs he's selling? (I won't get into what I think of that)
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I'm not talking about the SD card capacity, I'm talking about the embedded storage of the phones. And we are talking about REAL S4s in various configurations (9500, 9505, 9502 and so on). Since my question is apparently too complicated, let's pose it like this:
Example:
phone in my hands: ORIGINAL i9500 with 32gb INTERNAL MEMORY
what I want to do: flash a ROM that's been developed for a phone with 16gb INTERNAL MEMORY
Can-do?
It doesn't matter if the phone is 16GB or 32GB. One ROM fits them all.
Kind of like you installing Windows on your 100GB hard drive or your 2TB hard drive. As long as the *minimum* size is met, then you're good to go.
UoMoTaLpA said:
I'm not talking about the SD card capacity, I'm talking about the embedded storage of the phones. And we are talking about REAL S4s in various configurations (9500, 9505, 9502 and so on). Since my question is apparently too complicated, let's pose it like this:
Example:
phone in my hands: ORIGINAL i9500 with 32gb INTERNAL MEMORY
what I want to do: flash a ROM that's been developed for a phone with 16gb INTERNAL MEMORY
Can-do?
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The ROMs aren't devolped for a particular sized GB phone.. Look at any of the ROM names or flash requirements.. NONE of them state you have to have a particular phone memory wise.. Just needs to be the right variant.. I've never heard of the 9502 or 9508 so can't say on them.. But if you have a i9500 phone then you can only flash ROMs made for the octacore processor in your phone.. So really you should be in the s4 i9500 forums as the AT&T, and Canadian variant phones are quad core not octacore
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UoMoTaLpA said:
I'm not talking about the SD card capacity, I'm talking about the embedded storage of the phones. And we are talking about REAL S4s in various configurations (9500, 9505, 9502 and so on). Since my question is apparently too complicated, let's pose it like this:
Example:
phone in my hands: ORIGINAL i9500 with 32gb INTERNAL MEMORY
what I want to do: flash a ROM that's been developed for a phone with 16gb INTERNAL MEMORY
Can-do?
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Relax dude, we're talking the same thing. Unless he's selling something that isn't what it seems it doesn't make any difference what the storage capacity is. Just like the other guys have said.
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Thanks everybody for making this issue a bit clearer