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Farewell my minions, and my beloved dINC!

As of 5 minutes ago, I just bought the Droid RAZR MAXX- so it's time for me to say my goodbyes to all the people who may or may not know me
If I come back here a few days later, bagging about my phone, don't kill me. I'll probably be really stoked about my new MAXX and turn out being the douche master on the INC forums for bragging about all the fancy new specs it has and comparing it with a phone that a year and a half old.
Loved and still love this phone, been through good times and bad times, replaced the screen, speaker, many cases, many different batteries. I spent days modifying the ROM, customizing my setup, kernel, all that good stuff. I even used it to win over a couple of Apple fanboys to Android. But the time has come..

POQbum said:
As of 5 minutes ago, I just bought the Droid RAZR MAXX- so it's time for me to say my goodbyes to all the people who may or may not know me
If I come back here a few days later, bagging about my phone, don't kill me. I'll probably be really stoked about my new MAXX and turn out being the douche master on the INC forums for bragging about all the fancy new specs it has and comparing it with a phone that a year and a half old.
Loved and still love this phone, been through good times and bad times, replaced the screen, speaker, many cases, many different batteries. I spent days modifying the ROM, customizing my setup, kernel, all that good stuff. I even used it to win over a couple of Apple fanboys to Android. But the time has come..
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Another one bites tbe dust. Lol
Good luck on your new adventures with the RAZR MAXX.

Enjoy the new phone man! The DInc forums are getting rather sparse these days haha

SlimSnoopOS said:
Enjoy the new phone man! The DInc forums are getting rather sparse these days haha
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na this is still one of the most active forums for any phone and it has great development, unlike the RAZR. Thanks man, I hope this phone is all that it's cracked up to be.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Enjoy the new phone man! The DInc forums are getting rather sparse these days haha
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I, for one, will be running my DInc into the ground before getting a new phone

Boooo j/k
What made you decide on the Maxx. I've been fighting getting a new phone for months.
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POQbum said:
As of 5 minutes ago, I just bought the Droid RAZR MAXX- so it's time for me to say my goodbyes to all the people who may or may not know me
If I come back here a few days later, bagging about my phone, don't kill me. I'll probably be really stoked about my new MAXX and turn out being the douche master on the INC forums for bragging about all the fancy new specs it has and comparing it with a phone that a year and a half old.
Loved and still love this phone, been through good times and bad times, replaced the screen, speaker, many cases, many different batteries. I spent days modifying the ROM, customizing my setup, kernel, all that good stuff. I even used it to win over a couple of Apple fanboys to Android. But the time has come..
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</3 This is a sad day.

MagnaCore said:
What made you decide on the Maxx. I've been fighting getting a new phone for months.
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Someone from the dINC forum posted on the RAZR forum and I answered their question, I guess it sort of sums up why.
1: What is the ppi on my incredible, first one, 3.7".
252 PPI
2: What is ppi on Razr maxx
256 PPI
3. What is the story with maxx bootloader locked? How does that affect roms and rooting?
Yes the bootloader is locked, but the phone is rooted. What this means is you are able to fully flash new ROM's, but are not able to flash new kernels, CDMA radios, and splash screens.
4. Is razr maxx much of an upgrade over my HTC Droid incredible.
dINC vs MAXX
- 512MB vs 1024MB of RAM
- very slow GPU vs fast GPU
- single core 1GHz and older generation CPU vs dual core 1.2 newer generation CPU
- 3.7" screen vs 4.3" screen (it's not bulky and can fit in jean pockets fine)
- 1300 mAh vs 3300 mAh (with combination of more battery efficient processor, and screen, it lasts much longer)
- 8GB internal vs 16GB internal
- TV out (eww) vs HDMI out
- 720p max recording vs 1080p max recording
- no front camera vs front camera
- 2.1 Bluetooth vs 4.0 Bluetooth
- dINC poorly runs rooted ICS vs MAXX will be getting ICS within weeks-months via official release and has nearly identical GPU and identical CPU hardware to the Galaxy Nexus, so ICS should run flawless (ICS is currently a ROM available for flashing, but it still has some bugs to be worked out)
- glass that has broken on my dINC vs Gorilla glass
- MAXX also has 2 other hardware features that help the GPS lock quicker and more accurately than the dINC.
- MAXX is splash resistant (coated with water repellent)
- probably more, but I give up on trying to remember.
5: How is razr maxx radio signal strength? I tried Galaxy Nexus which said 3g more then 4G at my home and even lost connection a few times. HTC Rezound had good mostly 4G at my home.
The MAXX's 1x and 3G radio is very strong. Motorolla has always had great 1x and 3G radios and a big difference compared to my HTC dINC or my sisters dumbphone.
LTE is good as well, but if it gets a weak signal then it won't try to keep it (while draining more battery), it'll just drop it for 3G.
6: What does the modding community look like for razr maxx?
Sadly, not very well. The locked bootloader and the fact that Motorola has angered many hard core DEVs have made this possible
There is still hope our bootloader will get unlocked, actually someone just yesterday has managed to bypass the bootloader lock on the GSM phone but is still ironing out a bug. He hopes to get it done on the Verizon CDMA phone soon, so fingers crossed.
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synisterwolf said:
</3 This is a sad day.
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A little part inside of my died when I decided I was getting the maxx. I've decided that I'll still be keeping my dINC though, as a separate music player and gadget-type thing so I'll still be sticking around

Poq, you decided to keep it? Good choice. As I haven't found a phone that sounds as sweet with my skullcandy titans to this day.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Poq, you decided to keep it? Good choice. As I haven't found a phone that sounds as sweet with my skullcandy titans to this day.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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Yeah. I started writing up the auction for eBay, then I figure I'd have to ship it out.. and I'd probably get less than ~100$ for it.
Better to keep it and use it myself even if I won't be using it often. Plus I've spent way too much of my life modding the crap out of it, I wouldn't want that work to go in vain

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Lemme know if your maxx tops this
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

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Lemme know if your maxx tops this
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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You left too!?!?
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watt9493 said:
Lemme know if your maxx tops this
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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okey, I will once I get it.
Should be coming in tomorrow.
You end up going with the Droid 4?

Nope. Its still my good old incredible
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Nope. Its still my good old incredible
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must know your secrets, oh wad made of meat. How did you do it?
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watt9493 said:
Nope. Its still my good old incredible
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hacks!
this is why we can't trust quadrant

Still waiting for my razr maxx that's in the mail. Heh..just called vzm and my order that was placed on 3/07/12 at 12pm CST is still "pending shipment". I had one vzm rep tell me it had shipped and would be here on the 9th and had one tell me that I placed it at midnight, uh 12pm CST lady and that's why its still pending. Grrrrr!!!!
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Hey razr peeps! Have fun with a phone that will probably have no development future for it. Sure the hardware (battery) is nice but I don't see any reason to downgrade from my Nexus.
And why am I still here? I like the Inc forums way better than the Nexus forums.
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nrvous1 said:
Still waiting for my razr maxx that's in the mail. Heh..just called vzm and my order that was placed on 3/07/12 at 12pm CST is still "pending shipment". I had one vzm rep tell me it had shipped and would be here on the 9th and had one tell me that I placed it at midnight, uh 12pm CST lady and that's why its still pending. Grrrrr!!!!
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Hopefully it'll get sorted out for you soon. I'm actually interested to hear what people say firsthand. Razr never really interested me but I'm curious about the battery life on the maxxxxxxxxxx (I mean maxx).

tiny4579 said:
Hey razr peeps! Have fun with a phone that will probably have no development future for it. Sure the hardware (battery) is nice but I don't see any reason to downgrade from my Nexus.
And why am I still here? I like the Inc forums way better than the Nexus forums.
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Hopefully it'll get sorted out for you soon. I'm actually interested to hear what people say firsthand. Razr never really interested me but I'm curious about the battery life on the maxxxxxxxxxx (I mean maxx).
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They're working on a Sense 4 port for the Nexus and need a kernel developer. You should do it

TeeRom said:
They're working on a Sense 4 port for the Nexus and need a kernel developer. You should do it
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Haha. You're funny. No I don't plan on doing that. Not worth it in my book. I doubt it'll ever be very functional. But maybe on second thought it could be fun.
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New Droid Razr HD maxx

Just bought this after using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for the past year. I gotta say I'm blown away by the Battery life. With the Nexus I'd get maybe 12-14 hours before getting warnings at 15%. With the Maxx I went for 2D 5H and 10M to get to 5% battery. That was with normal usage or maybe even a bit more than normal because it was new.
The screen is great and very clear and bright.
Initially the camera was a negative and I took a few pictures inside in the evening with kinda weak lighting. They were dark and rather poor. Course the Nexus pictures in the same conditions weren't much better. Well I thought I'd try an alternate camera software and found a Jelly Bean camera version on the market. I installed this software and took another picture in the same condition and the new picture was far nicer that the stock camera. It was faster, brighter, clearer and better in just about every way.
Smart actions is amazing. I messed with tasker and never could get it working reliably. With smart actions I setup my work location and told it to not ring when I was in meeting and it worked perfectly. Now when I'm in a meeting my phone automatically silences itself and automatically sends a txt reply saying I'm in a meeting. Awesome!
I really couldn't be happier. The few addons that Motorola has like the smart actions, and the widget with the clock and weather are both fantastic and enhancements over the alternatives I was using from the market.
This phone is also solid and feels amazing. I'm stuned that this phone isn't the rave of the internet. I played with the S3 and it is nice but really I think this phone beats it hands down. Maybe the S3 and the Nexus both looked slicker but other than that this phone is awesome in every other way!!

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Just bought this after using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for the past year. I gotta say I'm blown away by the Battery life. With the Nexus I'd get maybe 12-14 hours before getting warnings at 15%. With the Maxx I went for 2D 5H and 10M to get to 5% battery. That was with normal usage or maybe even a bit more than normal because it was new.
The screen is great and very clear and bright.
Initially the camera was a negative and I took a few pictures inside in the evening with kinda weak lighting. They were dark and rather poor. Course the Nexus pictures in the same conditions weren't much better. Well I thought I'd try an alternate camera software and found a Jelly Bean camera version on the market. I installed this software and took another picture in the same condition and the new picture was far nicer that the stock camera. It was faster, brighter, clearer and better in just about every way.
Smart actions is amazing. I messed with tasker and never could get it working reliably. With smart actions I setup my work location and told it to not ring when I was in meeting and it worked perfectly. Now when I'm in a meeting my phone automatically silences itself and automatically sends a txt reply saying I'm in a meeting. Awesome!
I really couldn't be happier. The few addons that Motorola has like the smart actions, and the widget with the clock and weather are both fantastic and enhancements over the alternatives I was using from the market.
This phone is also solid and feels amazing. I'm stuned that this phone isn't the rave of the internet. I played with the S3 and it is nice but really I think this phone beats it hands down. Maybe the S3 and the Nexus both looked slicker but other than that this phone is awesome in every other way!!
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Awesome! I'm thinking to upgrade from my Galaxy Nexus also and I can't decide between the S3 and the Razr HD MAXX. I'm leaning towards the MAXX because of the build quality and the battery life. Have you noticed lag compared to the Galaxy Nexus? I expect some lag because the Razr doesn't have Jelly Bean yet. But would you say it's comparable to Galaxy Nexus running ICS?
Also, have you noticed improvement in LTE reception (if you're in an LTE area)?
Thanks!!

Low lighting is the bane of taking pictures. It's not the camera, it actually does well in dim areas... compared to iso3200 on a full frame sensor, but that might set you back $6,000+ in a real DSLR.
Control the lighting, use flash, photography 101.

I loved the looks of my galaxy nexus and loved that I could always have the latest software. But other than that there is nothing I'm missing from the razr hd maxx. I have not had any noticable lag. And thats running ICS with JB this phone will be even better. Sound quality on the phone calls is much better. The speaker is louder and better sound quality. Blue tooth in my care is better. With the Nexus I would get periods of really bad sound quality when talking on the phone with blue tooth. I harassed my car service people to the point where they reloaded my entire system with new software. I have a Infiniti G37. No change.... Since I've had the maxx my blue tooth is perfect and now I feel bad for chewing on the infinity people. I was certain the problem wasn't my phone since I'd reloaded the rom and all and I even had a warrentee replacement phone.
Honestly I can't think of anything I miss at this point and countless things I'm much happier about. This is the best phone I've ever had.
On LTE reception I'm not sure. I don't recall any issues at all. But most of the time I'm on wifi. But I've had issues on my nexus. From time to time lte would be looking ok but the network wouldn't be working. The signal would be gray and the only way to get it to work was to reboot the phone. That didn't happen often but did happen. In the early days the nexus had lots of lte / 3g issues but they seemed to get fixed.
The razr is still too new to me to have a really good ability to assess how it will be. This weekend as I'm not at work will give me more time to really tell.

My upgrade its tomorrow and I plan to order the HD Maxx from Amazon Wireless. I was just wondering if I'll have to take it to a VZW store to activate it. I've always ordered directly from Verizon in the past and could activate on my own. Wasn't sure if that would be the case going through someone else. Can anyone shed some light on that for me? I'll be replacing a Thunderbolt, so I think the sim is a different size on the Razr.
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animez said:
My upgrade its tomorrow and I plan to order the HD Maxx from Amazon Wireless. I was just wondering if I'll have to take it to a VZW store to activate it. I've always ordered directly from Verizon on the past and could activate on my own. Wasn't sure if that would be the case going through someone else.
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Not sure if you have to take it in. If you're upgrading from a phone that has the same SIM, I think you can just pop it in.
On a side note, even if Verizon says your upgrade is tomorrow, Amazon will let you do the upgrade now. You should be able to get the subsidized price through Amazon today. Try to get the order in today if you want :good:

animez said:
My upgrade its tomorrow and I plan to order the HD Maxx from Amazon Wireless. I was just wondering if I'll have to take it to a VZW store to activate it. I've always ordered directly from Verizon in the past and could activate on my own. Wasn't sure if that would be the case going through someone else. Can anyone shed some light on that for me? I'll be replacing a Thunderbolt, so I think the sim is a different size on the Razr.
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I'd wait a day and go through VZW. If you have an issue later, at least you have the option of a replacement (CLN) down the road if they allow. Plus you can see the phone right there before giving them your money, make sure it's put together correctly, make sure the screen is good, etc...
Just my opine!

skinien said:
On a side note, even if Verizon says your upgrade is tomorrow, Amazon will let you do the upgrade now. You should be able to get the subsidized price through Amazon today. Try to get the order in today if you want :good:
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Thanks for the tip, just ordered and it should be here Tuesday. Can't wait!

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I'd wait a day and go through VZW. If you have an issue later, at least you have the option of a replacement (CLN) down the road if they allow. Plus you can see the phone right there before giving them your money, make sure it's put together correctly, make sure the screen is good, etc...
Just my opine!
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On the other side, it's nice ordering from Amazon because the phone comes boxed up and YOU get to actually open it up. Some people don't like their new phones being molested by a salesman's greasy hands
Also, Amazon states that after 30 days, all warranty matters will go through Verizon. So, after the first 30 days, there really isn't a difference between whether or not you bought it from Amazon or Verizon in terms of replacement issues.
Finally, it's $100 cheaper on Amazon's site. If you can wait out the shipping time, that's quite the deal!

syntrix said:
I'd wait a day and go through VZW. If you have an issue later, at least you have the option of a replacement (CLN) down the road if they allow. Plus you can see the phone right there before giving them your money, make sure it's put together correctly, make sure the screen is good, etc...
Just my opine!
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As the poster above pointed out the phone is $100 cheaper from Amazon. Plus I still don't pay sales tax on Amazon (for one more year). I have absolutely no worries about returning it either. Bought a 42" TV from Amazon that about 28 days after purchase one of our kids decided it needed a nice big starburst crack in the lower corner. We contacted Amazon and actually told them the kids did it. They said that was not an issue and promptly shipped us another one. Paid to ship the other one back too. I'm a Amazon customer for life (or until they screw me).
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I just upgraded from my Galaxy Nexus. Here are my first impressions:
Pros:
- The screen in the Razr HD is much better than the GN. The screen looks more crisp, the colors more accurate, and the the auto-brightness is set at a higher level.
- The radio is much, much better. I'm getting stronger LTE connection at work and the speed tests are much better and more consistent. I'm getting dn/up speeds ~3 times faster than my GN. 25/dn 20/up compared to 7/dn 5/up.
- Battery life is no joke. I have the MAXX and just finished my first battery cycle. I gave the phone a beating and it lasted 27 hours on LTE with 4.5 hours of screen time. I know most phones take 2 - 3 battery cycles to start getting full potential of the battery so I bet it's even going to get better. With the same usage on my GN, probably would have gotten around 10 hours max.
- The build quality is amazing. It feels like a solid phone. iPhone's have great build quality and someone posted that this is the iPhone for men; I agree The speaker is louder, the notification light is great, and I love the look.
- Smart actions are pretty cool. I set a couple up that conserve battery when less than 10% and turn the ringer off when I'm usually sleeping.
- This version of Blur (if it's even called Blur anymore) has to be the lightest skin from any OEM. The UI looks very much like the stock Holo theme.
Cons:
- I was on Jelly Bean with the GN and it was super smooth. This phone stutters occasionally and I know our 4.1 update will help. 4.0 -> 4.1 made a significant difference in smoothness on the GN so I would expect it to do the same on the Razr HD. For now, I've replaced the lockscreen (Holo) and launcher (Nova) with "stock" versions from the market and it made a huge difference.
- I think the phone technically measures smaller than the GN however since it has sharper corners, it feels bigger in the pocket. This really isn't a big deal at all because after a couple of days, I expect that I'll be used to it and won't even notice the difference.
I thought about what is important to me in a phone:
- Screen (size and quality)
- Radio
- Build quality
- Battery life
This phone has it all. It feels so good to use my phone any way I want and not worry about battery life at the end of the day. What good is a phone if it's dead or if you can't get good reception? I was a big fan of rooting and flashing ROMs and this phone eliminates that desire because the phone meets my needs. I'm looking forward to the 4.1 update as it'll provide the following things I miss:
- More fluid UI
- Google Now
- High resolution contact photos
- Expanded notifications
Finally, just a couple of tips for those of you who are coming from the GN:
- Installing Holo Locker gives you the JB lock screen. It's nice and fast and looks great.
- Nova launcher has the ability to replace the app icons with the AOSP ones.
- AOSP Gallery3D from the market is the AOSP gallary app that gives you picasa syncing - this is a must for me!
- For those CM users, Power Toggles allows you to throw toggles in your notification pane.
tl;dr?
Buy this phone.

I ordered my Maxx HD from Simplexity online store few weeks ago. I used this store before for my previous Droid phone. Price of my Maxx HD is $175 no tax and next day service. Got the phone next day and activated it over their web site. It took me about 15 minutes from the time unboxed the package. Pretty cool! The saving got it from Simplexity vs. local Verizon is $120 on the phone price and $60 on the tax. I also bought a white razr HD for my wife. It was $50 less than my Maxx HD!

sc540i said:
I ordered my Maxx HD from Simplexity online store few weeks ago. I used this store before for my previous Droid phone. Price of my Maxx HD is $175 no tax and next day service. Got the phone next day and activated it over their web site. It took me about 15 minutes from the time unboxed the package. Pretty cool! The saving got it from Simplexity vs. local Verizon is $120 on the phone price and $60 on the tax. I also bought a white razr HD for my wife. It was $50 less than my Maxx HD!
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I'm not the biggest Android fan on the planet... I'm okay with it, but not my -favorite- thing. I had been looking forward to the Lumia 920 for a long time and did end up getting it, actually. But I'm still in my return period and finally decided that, although I couldn't get the exact phone I wanted on Verizon, it was worth it to me to switch onto my family's plan so I could save ~$40/month or so over what I was paying on my own on AT&T. So I picked up a Droid RAZR Maxx HD on Amazon today... only $150! :good:
Verizon DOES have some WP devices... but the Lumia 822 has a mediocre screen and the 8X has inadequate storage space... so Android it was. Oh well.

HTC Vision to Nexus 4 Review

Hey guys,
It doesn't seem like a lot of us here is getting a Nexus. I just got one for myself, and it is fantastic, so I am just writing an opinion piece here for anyone that's looking for an upgrade
It is big
From 3.7" to 4.7" is quite a jump. After using the phone for just a few hours, the Vision seems to be tiny in my hand. By the way, my hand is not that big so I can barely manage to use it on one hand. They make the pattern lock screen smaller in ratio than normal, and the power button on the side, and it helps a little bit. Having to use the phone with two hands is annoying, but it should curb my cellphone use when I am driving,
and it is thin
I always feel that the Vision is too thick since the first time I pick it up. Feels like a brick that I can throw and kill people with. The Nexus, on the other hand, is really thin. In fact, it's thinner than the Vision's keyboard. Since the G2 has a concave back, which is nice for holding by the way, initially it feels like the Nexus's back is convex. Yet, holding the Nexus is not much more difficult, and the glass feels good.
Keyboard
My fear when I bought the Nexus was that I won't have a keyboard to use. I almost always use the hardware keyboard even though I type faster using the touch screen. I just like the mechanical feel. Even if I use the software keyboard, I use it in landscape mode because I want it to be spacious. However, the Nexus is so big that the software keyboard in portrait is still big and easy to type. It should be familiar with most people here because 4.2JB keyboard is almost the same as 4.0ICS.
About the Gesture Typing thing..... I don't use it. I don't like the notion of the computer learning what I want to type, telling me what I should type, suggesting me the word that I should use.... I decide what I input into my device.
Speed
It is fast. The Vision is almost unbearably slow for me these day. The Nexus is just fast and smooth. You'll love it.
Screen
The screen looks gorgeous. I don't know much about screen tech, but it looks much much much better than the Vision's. The glass is thinner so the screen appear closer to the user. It looks much more realistic. It is also darker, reflect less light so it appears as if the screen is almost the entire front face. Thinner side bezel also helps.
Battery
I have heard good things about the Nexus's battery, but those things haven't quite arrived on my phone yet. Granted, I haven't even charge it since I got it. After nearly 2 years of using the Vision with a lot of abuses, and with 4.0ICS on it, almost anything would have better battery anyways.
I am a heavy user, so the battery doesn't hold up to well. After 4 hours 20 minutes of usage, it went from 90% when I just got it to 17% ..... However, the screen was on for 2 hours, and I downloaded about 300MB of stuff via cell towers and 700MB of stuff via wifi. The phone also had to install quite a ton of stuff. So may be it will do better tomorrow. I'll update.
Update: I got through a day (12 hours) of medium use with 25% battery left. Not bad.
Camera
Haven't tried. I use a camera for shooting. But, in comparison with Vision's 4.0ICS patched camera, almost anything should be better anyways. I'll update this when I get a chance to shoot something.
4.2JB
It's great. Smooth (most of the part should be because of the quad-core processor with 2GB of RAM). Some new functions such as lock screen widget and day dreams. Lock screen widget selection is extremely limited (Gmail, SMS, Calendar, Soundsearch, Clock), we have better stuffs around. And the day dreams thing..... most Android phones don't even have a dock to begin with.
Space
On the 16GB model, you get 12GB for your stuff. The entire 16GB is ROM. So everything is in one place (which also means stuffs are faster than they are in SD card)
About that glass back
Someone said somewhere on the internet that the thing is also Gorilla Glass 2. Some other people said that it cracks within a day or so. Mine hasn't yet. The glittering dots is only visible when viewed with an angle. I don't know what is the deal with it.
And about that LTE thing
Edit: It is confirmed (youtube videos, news, etc.) that the Nexus 4 can work on LTE band IV (no root needed, just few touches). Rumors say that when T-Mobile has their LTE up and running, it will be LTE band IV.
I don't need LTE. At least a long as there a still a tiny cap for these expensive data plan.
However, HSPA+ on T-Mobile is not that slow either. I mentioned in my posts here and there that part of the reason internet feels slow just because the phone itself is slow. I also posted speedtest on the Vision a while back ago, 3-4Mbps something.
If HSPA+ is a highway, the Vision would be an old Honda minivan... towing a mobile home. It just cant utilize the full potential of the network. The Nexus, on the other hand, is a freaking 12-cyclinder Ferrari zipping around at max speed, only slows down because of traffic congestion.
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And the wacky things
There's an IMEI sticker on the back. The shipped plastic cover even has a cut out for that space. Even a box painted for it there..... I already bought a full-body screen protector, hopefully the Skinomi didn't rush to make these plastic without space for the IMEI sticker. Weird f***ing decision....
Also, no headphones included.
Things that I forgot
I'll add later if you can kindly remind me.

Nice one mate. Got the same plans but waiting on G to ship my damn fone. I have had 3 phones with physical keyboards but the capacitive screen on my DZ means the physical keyboard is still as new as the day I bought the phone.
I would have carried on using the DZ as it serves all my needs but that bit were it says "Loading" for like 20 secs and you cant do anything with the phone, is starting to get on my nerves.
Enjoy ur new phone.

Nice review. Using a Nexus 4 (or any other recent device), the G2 feels like at least 5 years old technology.

How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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i wanted to get this phone but google and lg has really f'd this one up for countrys who do not have playstore...
Anyways nice review and i hope this phone will get here at all
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I am still staying with Desire Z it is useful enough.

Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
One of the main reasons people avoid this device I think. Bad/mediocre battery life + non removable battery. If you have access to a charger it's not so bad, but not all of us are that lucky.
I should note that battery reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, though. I get 6h+ screen on time with the sgs3 (lte disabled) and a lot of tests I've seen clock it in at a lot lower.
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Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
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Well, that's what I heard. That it's better then the GNexus and people get 10-14 hours from it.
I got pictures this time

Agreed with blk jack.. how long is the screen on ? Kyaraofire? Do u use data or just wifi?
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How is the awake time so little??
It's not even awake when the screen is on most of the time..
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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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I fall in love!!!
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Great review, cheers. I'm definitely grabbing one once they are in stock again.

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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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The rom team I've been working with (SlimRoms) is currently working on establishing a 4.2 base with the nexus 4 as one of the model devices for that base. Right now a number of devices (21) run 4.1.2. With a large number of those if not all scheduled to get 4.2, along with the nexus 4.
TLDR; If you want a jellybean rom that I've been working on check out SlimBean.
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Thanks for the review. What really holds me from replacing my Desire Z is the keyboard... I can type without even looking at the keys, a bit like typing on a "real" keyboard (with two thumbs versus 10 fingers, though) on the Desire Z's, which (for me at least) just isn't possible on any touch screen keyboard I tried so far. Also the fn keys are really great, speeds up typing quite a lot because I don't have to long press some button, wait for the phone to recognize I have been long pressing, select the character I really wanted to type etc...
Oh, and for anyone really having speed issues with their DZ/G2: Did you clean install your ROM, or did you update without wiping? For me, this made the difference between a quite fast reacting phone and a unbearably sluggish one...

I received my N4 yesterday, it replaces my good old vision. I'm experiencing quiet the same things. Except the Keyboard. I LOVE the swiping thing. Already had swipeIT on my vision for quick texting with one thumb. The N4 Version is even better (perhaps it's a subjective feeling cause of the genereal speed of the device).
But I miss the HW keyboard while ssh'ing one of our servers. Would not be that bad, if the N4 had a trackbal.... the second thing I miss.

There is such a thing as a fast qwerty. HTC Doubleshot has been out for quite some time now. Made the switch back in February. Exceptional little phone.
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Thanks for this! Just what I was looking for I have a upgrade coming soon, Considering getting a N4.

Steven How said:
How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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My contract ends in a couple of weeks, I really want an N4 as well but because its only 16GB and they are sold out atm, means I will probably get the Galaxy S3. Is there anything faster with an SD slot?

Wow. Very informative review. I have been waiting for the money to buy the 16GB, and this just makes me want it even more. Unfortunately, until G has the stock, wont be able to get anyways.
Thanks for the review! :good::good:

[Q] Why RAZR M over Droid 4?

So I currently have the Droid 2, but need to replace it due to screen issues, and I'm up for renewal anyway.
I have been considering the RAZR M because a good friend really recommended it, and was about to pull the trigger tonight when I began researching the Droid 4.
I realize the D4 is bulkier than the M... but I don't really mind the bulk of my D2...of course most of that bulk is because of the slide out keyboard, which is why I'm still so attracted to the D4.
The D4 seems to have a slightly slower processor, though from what I read benchmarks are comparable.
The M has a nicer screen (larger and crisper) - but I really don't mind my D2 screen, and I'm sure the D4 is at least as good.
The D4 also has HDMI support which is a nice add on.
Right now I need to pay $99 for the D4, where I can get the M for free (strange that the newer phone is cheaper!). If the D4 was $0 too, I think I would probably jump on it without even asking these questions, but....
Can someone convince me why, as someone who really likes their keyboard - why an M is really much better than the D4?
The main thing I'm really worried about on the D4 is battery life...I use an extended battery on the D2 and I get at least a full day in most cases - but I can't get an extended for the D4.

TraderJack said:
So I currently have the Droid 2, but need to replace it due to screen issues, and I'm up for renewal anyway.
I have been considering the RAZR M because a good friend really recommended it, and was about to pull the trigger tonight when I began researching the Droid 4.
I realize the D4 is bulkier than the M... but I don't really mind the bulk of my D2...of course most of that bulk is because of the slide out keyboard, which is why I'm still so attracted to the D4.
The D4 seems to have a slightly slower processor, though from what I read benchmarks are comparable.
The M has a nicer screen (larger and crisper) - but I really don't mind my D2 screen, and I'm sure the D4 is at least as good.
The D4 also has HDMI support which is a nice add on.
Right now I need to pay $99 for the D4, where I can get the M for free (strange that the newer phone is cheaper!). If the D4 was $0 too, I think I would probably jump on it without even asking these questions, but....
Can someone convince me why, as someone who really likes their keyboard - why an M is really much better than the D4?
The main thing I'm really worried about on the D4 is battery life...I use an extended battery on the D2 and I get at least a full day in most cases - but I can't get an extended for the D4.
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Hello fellow D2 user
If you can stand not having HDMI out and a physical keyboard, then the RAZR M is a great choice to make
Development for the D4 is at a good pace, but will probably faze out quicker than the M, as its an older device with an outdated processor and lacks the unlocked bootloader the M currently has (until you update to the latest from the Verizon, which does not allow for the bootloader to be unlocked)
The RAZR M is slated for a 4.2.2 upgrade (and possibly onwards), which may play a factor if you're a fan of stock (D4 is unlikely to be updated past 4.1). However, don't buy the phone expecting the update. Unofficial 4.2.2 custom ROMs are available for both devices.
Seeing as the physical keyboard is also being fazed out, it might be healthy to get used to a touch screen keyboard. IMO, I prefer using a touchscreen keyboard on a small mobile device.
I'd recommend you purchase the RAZR M, but it might be wise to think about whether the HDMI out and physical keyboard are things that you really want in the smartphone, or a gimmick.

Leraeniesh said:
Hello fellow D2 user
If you can stand not having HDMI out and a physical keyboard, then the RAZR M is a great choice to make
Development for the D4 is at a good pace, but will probably faze out quicker than the M, as its an older device with an outdated processor and lacks the unlocked bootloader the M currently has (until you update to the latest from the Verizon, which does not allow for the bootloader to be unlocked)
The RAZR M is slated for a 4.2.2 upgrade (and possibly onwards), which may play a factor if you're a fan of stock (D4 is unlikely to be updated past 4.1). However, don't buy the phone expecting the update. Unofficial 4.2.2 custom ROMs are available for both devices.
Seeing as the physical keyboard is also being fazed out, it might be healthy to get used to a touch screen keyboard. IMO, I prefer using a touchscreen keyboard on a small mobile device.
I'd recommend you purchase the RAZR M, but it might be wise to think about whether the HDMI out and physical keyboard are things that you really want in the smartphone, or a gimmick.
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Thanks for the input. I can stand not having the HDMI...I don't have it on the D2. I thought it would be a cool feature...but honestly probably use it once in a blue moon.
Both my wife and I do use our slide-keyboards alot. I came from a Tilt before my D2, so have been accustomed for a while.
I honestly usually end up with stock ROM, thought I do want root (just don't have the time to play the flashing game anymore ).
My biggest concern apart from the keyboard is the battery like on the 4. Its 1785mah is just shy of my 1850mah extended on D2 (which is good for me)...but with a faster proc and 4G I think it will go quicker.
I also think the 1.3mpx front camera will be a lot nicer for skyping home when I am traveling.
Can anyone speak to the battery life differences and how adequate the M front cam is for video chat compared to the D4?

So basically, is the familiarity, the keyboard, and the HDMI port worth $100 to you?
To me it isn't, hands down. But I hate phones with slide out keyboards. I love Swype, and the new default google keyboard has all the same features. I would never use a keyboard on such a small device, it adds to much bulk for something I would never use anyway.
The HDMI port is a nice feature to have, one of the things I miss about my old Atrix, but in reality I had that phone for 2 years and used the HDMI port maybe 3 times.
Also for battery life, basically every smartphone is going to need to recharge almost every day. You can take it really easy on the device and get a longer life, but then you aren't really using it like you would want to. I don't think the Razr M will take an extended battery either, as you have to have a special star bit screwdriver set to even get to the battery.
It sounds like you really like the keyboard though, so if no keyboard is enough of a deal-breaker, get the one with a keyboard.

TraderJack said:
Can anyone speak to the battery life differences and how adequate the M front cam is for video chat compared to the D4?
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Posted at the same time, wow haha.
The Razr M with stock 4.1.2 has awesome battery life, with 2000mah. I actually just posted in the battery life thread with screenshots of mine, with the battery lasting all day yesterday and until about 5pm today. Close to 42 hours, but with really light use. I only recently got the phone, but under normal/heavy use I expect to get ~30-36 hours. Sounds like you use yours a bit more heavily than I would on average, but you would definitely get a day or more out of it unless you were playing games or watching videos for hours.
With 4.2.2 I get much less battery life, right around the normal 24 hours.

TraderJack said:
Thanks for the input. I can stand not having the HDMI...I don't have it on the D2. I thought it would be a cool feature...but honestly probably use it once in a blue moon.
Both my wife and I do use our slide-keyboards alot. I came from a Tilt before my D2, so have been accustomed for a while.
I honestly usually end up with stock ROM, thought I do want root (just don't have the time to play the flashing game anymore ).
My biggest concern apart from the keyboard is the battery like on the 4. Its 1785mah is just shy of my 1850mah extended on D2 (which is good for me)...but with a faster proc and 4G I think it will go quicker.
I also think the 1.3mpx front camera will be a lot nicer for skyping home when I am traveling.
Can anyone speak to the battery life differences and how adequate the M front cam is for video chat compared to the D4?
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I can't personally speak for battery life, but here are reports from droid-life.com's reviews of both devices.
Droid 4
While it may not pack the 3300mAh battery of the RAZR MAXX, the 1785mAh battery inside the D4 produced enough life to at least get us through most days. With the current crop of LTE radios, we are never going to see long life on a standard battery, but the DROID 4 was able to outperform many other phones. One thing to keep in mind is that the battery is non-removable, so if you purchase this phone, you won’t be able to toss in an extended. It’s unfortunate, but this looks to be Motorola’s standard going forward.
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RAZR M
The 2000mAh battery inside the RAZR M coupled with a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4 processor seems like a match made in heaven. Well, almost anything does with this processor, however, this phone seems insanely good with this combo. I have two screenshots to talk about below that have led me to this conclusion. The first one on the left is the RAZR M after I took it through a standard day of checking emails, Twitter, snapping a few photos, making a few phone calls, listening to some music, keeping WiFi off, and not doing anything that would completely hammer on battery life (like gaming or video streaming). As you can see, a full day of use was not an issue. The screenshot on the right is day of travel and over an hour straight of Granny Smith domination with Google Music playing in the background while on a plane. I still had 33% left and probably could have made it through the rest of the day if I needed to. Now, with my Galaxy Nexus, should I have played over an hour of any game with music streaming in the background, I would have been dying to find the nearest outlet so that I could toss some juice into it. This phone is incredibly efficient.
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As for the front facing camera, you will find it nice and mostly clear, but now as crisp and clear as the Droid 4.
Also, if you do go for the RAZR M and want to spare some bulk for protection, I highly recommend the Trident Aegis case.

I was a big physical keyboard guy before I got the M...
Now, having used the 4.2 swipe keyboard, I'm loving the M. It's much snappier than my brother's D4, both on CM10.1. Battery life blows pretty much every smartphone except the MAXX out of the water, and the form factor is perfect.
I don't really care about display that much either, and I can't see a difference between the M and the D4.
I'd vote RAZR M... Both phones are an excellent choice though
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Seriously just wait another month and the Moto X will be out with all its glory.
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I cant think of one reason to get the Droid 4 besides having to have a physical keyboard. The M has better processor, software, display, looks, on contract price (and same outright price), unlockable bootloader (thanks to qualcomm processor exploit) for starters. The M has DLNA capabilities, who needs a physical HDMI wire! Even my wife gave up the physical keyboard

dtraini7 said:
Seriously just wait another month and the Moto X will be out with all its glory.
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Yeah...but at what price? I typically get the prior model for little or nothing...so not about to drop $200/phone.
stanlalee said:
I cant think of one reason to get the Droid 4 besides having to have a physical keyboard. The M has better processor, software, display, looks, on contract price (and same outright price), unlockable bootloader (thanks to qualcomm processor exploit) for starters. The M has DLNA capabilities, who needs a physical HDMI wire! Even my wife gave up the physical keyboard
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When looking at specs and reading reviews it seems that processor/performance wise the difference is negligible. For sure the M has the 4 beat on size and screen and seems to have a real slight edge in battery. Everything else seems mostly subjective.
I also think dlna over most wifi is going to be pretty stuttery compared to a direct had I connection. Also, you can't connect say netflix over dlna. I agree the hdmi feature would be something I used only a few times a year likely...but I think it is a nice bonus.
You are right about the pricing...I hate paying for phones, so the D4 really has that going against it and vzw doesn't seem to budge for making a deal.
So...2 questions left...
1) will they let me install Skype to test the front camera on the phone in stores?
2) for all of you that were keyboard users...what made you decide to give it up? And, what features of non kb usage are you finding that seem to make you not miss it? I think for me, it isn't as much about having the tactile keyboard, but rather not being able to see as much of the screen when I type. For instance, I am typing this whole message on my ipad using the stock soft kb...but the screen is large enough I can see almost this whole message....and of course the actual soft keys are each the size of my fingertip...I always find it awkward when using my d2 soft kb which takes up almost the entire screen...especially when using Remote Desktop type software. I will also say I hate iPhone keyboards.
So what experience can those with similar trepidation a share about how you've adjusted?
Thanks

Leraeniesh said:
Also, if you do go for the RAZR M and want to spare some bulk for protection, I highly recommend the Trident Aegis case.
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I was planning on a screen protector like xtreme guard, and the a relatively lightweight case. Although i dont like the TPU cases that come off easy. I was looking at the Ballistic and Body Glove cases....but not sure about either. I suppose I probably should get something to protect it from my 2 year old...but was hoping to reap the benefits of the phones natural slimness.
I was in a motorcycle accident with my d2 and seido case...the thing slid down the street 20-30 feet...only scratched a small part of the case. Apart from that I don't know if I ever would have needed a case so bulky (and seidos really aren't that bulky, compared to say an otterbox)....

I just made the switch from the d4 to the M few things I miss like the captivate keys webtop and the HDMI output... but all and all I am much happier with the M much much much better battery life I was lucky to get 11-14 hr on the d4 (on jb like 20+ when it had ICS) like 28-30 on the M I'm always on my phone too ... and the screen... wow... its like switching from a old school tube TV to one of these HD TVs ... camera takes a lot better pix FFC as well... I have used mostly physical keyboard phones (besides the month on the RAZR xt912) much much happier with the M....
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... I have used mostly physical keyboard phones (besides the month on the RAZR xt912) much much happier with the M....
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So less than a month and you've changed your mind?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42784685&postcount=3
What has changed? You feel that the extra battery life is worth giving up the keyboard? You wouldn't trade back now for the D4 if you could (for free)?

To put in my 2 cents, I have a razr M and my wife has the D4. I have owned the D1, D2, D2G, and D3, so I was really hooked on the keyboard phones. As far as the processors being close, where did you read that? The D4 feels ancient compared to the razr M, there is a significant lag in my wifes phone compared to mine. My other major thing is the screen, starting with the D3 the keyboard Droids started having really crappy looking screens, and the D4 is no exception, the razr M doesn't have the best screen, but if you look at the 2 side by side the razr M is way better, and I love having that slim bezel. Yes I really miss the keyboard, and Moto really needs to make a high end keyboard phone, but this is what we are stuck with.
Also I have been checking out Flesky Beta for my keyboard, it has an invisible mode where it is hidden, and still can be really accurate. It's beta so it still needs alot of work, but it is awesome, you can even blind type with reasonable accuracy with it.

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To put in my 2 cents, I have a razr M and my wife has the D4. I have owned the D1, D2, D2G, and D3, so I was really hooked on the keyboard phones. As far as the processors being close, where did you read that? The D4 feels ancient compared to the razr M, there is a significant lag in my wifes phone compared to mine. My other major thing is the screen, starting with the D3 the keyboard Droids started having really crappy looking screens, and the D4 is no exception, the razr M doesn't have the best screen, but if you look at the 2 side by side the razr M is way better, and I love having that slim bezel. Yes I really miss the keyboard, and Moto really needs to make a high end keyboard phone, but this is what we are stuck with.
Also I have been checking out Flesky Beta for my keyboard, it has an invisible mode where it is hidden, and still can be really accurate. It's beta so it still needs alot of work, but it is awesome, you can even blind type with reasonable accuracy with it.
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Thanks blitz.. I read various review online where no one made a really big deal about the performance difference between the two, so other than some minor anecdotal evidence (like yours - which I don't discount) they appeared to not be that far off in performance. Also, realize that I'm coming from a D2 - and even though I realize it is a bit sluggish, any new phone will likely be a big performance improvement - therefore maybe I wouldn't know what I'm missing with the M if I just stuck with my D4 and keyboard.
Interesting about the screen...I didn't realize the screen are actually worse in the D3/4 then they were in the D2...that is a bit of a turnoff. I am happy enough with the clarity of the D2 screen, but if it gets worse with the 4....I dunno....
Out of interest, what are the biggest problems you personally face without the keyboard, and how have you adjusted?
It seems a lot of case reviews mention that typing with the on-screen keyboard is more difficult with a case, and that doesn't make me happy since I likely need to protect the phone from my little ones.

I think lot of people may be missing part of the point. This guy enjoys a physical keyboard. Maybe you don't, but that's irrelevant since he's the one buying the phone.
Here's my take. And I was in a similar boat to you. About 4 years ago I was lured over to Android from BlackBerry. Thank God... But my biggest reason as to how and why was one you probably don't normally think of when one switches to Android. It was the Motorola Droid Pro's BlackBerry-esque keyboard that sold me. I had gotten so used to the keyboard that the only way I would switch at the time was for a near identical keyboard. I wasn't concerned that a keyboard was passe at that point. But I switched, and liked the Droid Pro for a year and a half or so. After a while though, the small screen, slow processor, and Frodo/Gingerbread began to wear on me. I did a lot of research on keyboard phones and non-keyboard phones. This was around the same time the M was being released. After much deliberation, I ordered an M. While I couldn't possibly love it any more, there was a hurdle to jump. It was my first non-keyboard phone. And for me, this was a difficult one to swallow for a while. I still don't type amazing on the touch screen... However.... And this is the turning point for me.. The stock keyboard was alright, but I wanted to try others out. You'll hear a lot of people talk about Swype keyboard. For me, though, SwiftKey was the answer to my transition. It still has a word prediction feature I use constantly. I'm always mistyping, but with SwiftKey I barely know it. It completed the transition and I just haven't looked back since
As most will tell you, the phone battery is excellent. For me, the display is nice and for my money the camera is just fine. Maybe I'll want a powerhouse phone down the road, but until this phone is crushed by an elephant I am sticking with it and couldn't be happier.
Whew.. Talk about being long winded...
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I can't speak towards a case, I don't use one ( I can get a used RAZR m for around $100 on eBay so I view it as disposable) the onscreen keyboard I am terrible and make lots of mistakes, though flesky makes it a little better. I just really dislike the D4 and look at it as a trade off I can live with. Long emails just wait till in in front of a computer now, annoying but I'd rather have a nice phone then a crappy one with a keyboard.
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Jersey846 said:
I think lot of people may be missing part of the point. This guy enjoys a physical keyboard. Maybe you don't, but that's irrelevant since he's the one buying the phone. ....
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Right - thanks for that long-windedness Jersey - I'm looking for detailed experiences. I have good friend who has the M, switched from the D2G and had the D1 before that. He also says that he is good now without the keyboard and using swiftkey.
Question to most people out there... when you use your soft keyboard - are you usually in portrait or landscape mode?
I often send quick google texts in portrait mode with the soft on my D2...and don't find it horrible since it only takes up maybe 1/4-1/3 of the screen. But in landscape mode it takes up more (like half at least if not 3/4).
I think I'm used to using landscape mode *because* of the slide out keyboard...but I'm wondering if I will adapt to portrait with the M(?).

TraderJack said:
Thanks blitz.. I read various review online where no one made a really big deal about the performance difference between the two, so other than some minor anecdotal evidence (like yours - which I don't discount) they appeared to not be that far off in performance.
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When it comes to smartphones now the difference between blazing fast and slow as a turd is like a second or less difference. I mean I still have my single core thunderbolt and it runs (non sensed, CM based) GB and ICS extremely smooth and isn't what I'd call laggy at all opening apps etc. The galaxy nexus uses the same PowerVR540 GPU and similar processor (OMAP 4460 vs OMAP 4430 on the Droid) as the D4 and I have yet to see one I'd consider sluggish or slow even by today's standards.
The main factor is the software. All pre quadcore HTC Sense devices and pre RAZR M/HD/HD MAXX/Atrix HD have software induced lag (that usually goes aware with AOSP based ROMs). I don't know why Samsung is the only oem that can add a bunch of crap (more than the others) and still keep it smooth running on the same or like internal processing.

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Question to most people out there... when you use your soft keyboard - are you usually in portrait or landscape mode?
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I only use landscape mode for taking pictures and playing games. I actually have auto-rotate on my homescreen turned off because of how rarely I use landscape. For me typing is incredibly easy and fast in portrait mode, because of Swype/Swiftkey type keyboards. I adjusted to these really fast, but I never once used a phone with a keyboard, so there is a major difference in where we both come from.
You could install Swiftkey on your D2 and try it out in portrait mode. Just try to use it for a couple days and see if its something you can get used to, and if not then the physical keyboard is your answer.

Moto X Pros/Cons IMO

Moto X Cons/Pros IMO
Hi, this can be a base for new Moto X users coming from other smartphones.
Pros
1. Moto X has one of the smoothest and fastest Android experience you'll have with any smartphone today.
If you're coming from a non-nexus smartphone, you'll definitely feel that. Everything just works in Moto X. It's the smartphone with the nearest experience of an iPhone in terms of speed and smoothness.
2. Moto X feels great in hand. It has the perfect size for a smartphone.
3. Screen size is perfect, you can reach every corner without a hassle.
Although some users might feel the difference coming from a bigger screen, you'll definately get used to it in no time.
4. Good materials, it feels like you're holding a really well made product. Not just plastic stuff.
5. Twist to fast access to camera is great.
I'm still getting used to it, but accessing the camera without even touching the screen is very handy. I thought it would be too much of a hassle to do that movement every time, but it turns out you get used to it very fast, and that's pretty easy.
6. Touchless Control.
Although it's almost useless here in Brazil, I'll include that because is it's really useful for the main languages that it includes. I still use it to showoff though. :victory:
7. The speaker is one of the best I've listened so far.
It's one of the loudest, its quality is pretty good. Basses are good too.
8. Battery life is superb.
It lasts for your entire day and even a little bit more. Compared to my last phone, a S3, I can really feel the difference.
9. Battery charges really fast.
Within 2 hours or so, my Moto X charges from 0% to 100% with stock wall charger. Considering its battery time, it's an amazingly fast charge: 2 hours charge for a 24h+ usage. My S3 used to charge in 5h+
10. Fast updates.
This is not something that will certainly happen, but it seems Motorola is committed to bring us Android OS updates and improvements updates really quickly. Although it has not been released for my Moto X here in Brazil yet, it's been released for the Moto X faster than the Nexus devices. Let's hope they keep it like that for some years, and not just because it's the momentum smartphone.
11. Active Notifications.
The best thing invented after the wheel, don't have to say anything about this.
Cons
1. Onscreen buttons takes too much space.
Although Moto X screen size is perfect, its virtual buttons takes a lot of that space, and you might feel a big hit when coming from a 4.8/5" phone that has its entire dedicated screen.
2. Camera is terrible.
Coming from a S3, I definitely felt a big hit here. Camera takes a big time to shoot photos; it takes too long to focus; it takes pics with different tonality every time, it's even hard to shoot 2 similar photos from 2 different angles. Below is an example of that.
Camera software is not the best aswell. We don't have night mode, quality/px choice, effects, and so on.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Those 2 pics are not edited and were shot with the Moto X camera in practically the same moment.
3. Touchless Control doesn't work everywhere.
For example in Brazil, not all the commands are available and it's just useful to call for someone and check weather predictions. Despite using it to call for someone, we don't get audio feedback for any of the commands.
4. Too thin for 2 hands usage?
That's a real real personal thought, but although Moto X has the perfect size for a one-hand feel, I'm really having a hard time typing in the keyboard and I wouldn't blame if it was a little wider. The phone is thinner than the S3, that I used to rest both hands and type, and wider than a smartphone that we can rest one hand and use the other sidewards.
But I'm really sure it's something I'll get used to within some time.
5. No sdcard slot.
I'm yet to see if this will be really a down vote to me on Moto X, but at least in my old S3, I had to use a 16gb sdcard to store some extra musics and pics. The default 16gb was not sufficient.
Well, that's it. It's a really great phone and it was for sure a great improvement coming from a S3. I do miss S3's camera and physical buttons, but despite that and the listed above, there's nothing else I can blame this phone for.
Feel free to add your own opinions, cons and pros.

I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.

I've added 1 item to the con and 1 to the pros that I forgot to mention.

Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I used a demo at the store (one had kitkat and one didn't), and the kitkat one was SO much better. I think this camera really competes with the other flagships now.
dicarli said:
Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
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He means Kitkat i think.

@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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barondebxl said:
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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I'm not sure if the S3 boot loader is locked aswell, but we had a lot more hacks, mods and roms to use/test on the S3 than o the Moto X.
EVOSerb said:
Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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It was my GF actually. I shall ask to her how she cooked that

Please do ask. Now just to find the one for my self that will cook like that LOL.
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Tottaly agree! Mostly in the voice commands, in Brasil is not useful like in the US
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Thanks OP for sharing your experience. I'd just like to elaborate on the design.
I don't really quite know how to summarize my idea, but the emphasis on user experience is so great, it's borderline criminal, and it's easily the most understated feature of the Moto X. The texture of the back feels extremely wonderful to hold that doesn't feel like cheap plastic nor cold hard aluminium. The contours (?) of the phone is curved in such a way that feels absolutely comfortable - I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola took the palm/hand profiles of many people and designed the back with it. In conjunction with that, the buttons are positioned well enough to allow me to reach for them whenever I need it. And that dent on the back cover! My finger now gravitates to that point to get a solid grab on the phone. _Finally_ I have a phone that doesn't have to depend on aluminium for that premium feel, or worse still, give UX design a middle finger and design a pile of manure (*coughsamsungcough*) for use.
I was really pleasantly surprised to find out for myself how good the speaker was. It's loud, but distortion is hardly noticeable at maximum volume. (Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I suppose I get a bit too excited. heh) The camera's been improving steadily, thankfully, but it could use more repairs. I would appreciate it very much if I could take photos faster - the idea of twist-to-camera is kinda wasted on a slow-responding camera like this.
I have friends using the Nexus 5 beside me, and in all honesty I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Then again, I paid a bloody premium for the phone . But seriously speaking, no regrets. At all. If I had to make the decision all over again, I'd still shoot for the Moto X. Never mind that there's no support for LTE in Malaysia or Singapore (I alternate between these two countries most frequently), or that the SD card slot is missing. I have not been so contented with a purchase in a very, very long time.

For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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TheKaz said:
I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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I believe a member is working on making it work on his in the accessories section.

What are the chances of a QI case being released? I would be all for that.
Cannot believe incipio decided to make a powermat charging case... WHO USES POWERMAT!?

My biggest and only real complaint about the Moto X is the camera. It does not feel like it matches up to even some 2011 phone cameras.

Nice Article.
I'm loving my Moto X 'Argentina Edition' (no root yet ).
On the 'Cons 4' section I swipe a lot, and never again hold my phoine with 2 hands
While driving I can text with the mic, not sure on portuguese, but spanish works great!

OK Google Now
is so much more sensitive in 4.4. I'm using the nexus 5 gel and my phone is constantly beeping and googling my last few words. Kinda strange

I'm still on 4.2.2 but I would have to say the camera, the smaller screen size, and the color saturation of the screen.
I bought a nexus 5 earlier this month and switch between the two phones all the time. {Google apps sync everything} and those would be my main complaints. Obviously the screen size is completely subjective, but I much prefer the n5 screen. I do like the battery life, but I usually have a charger at work and at home, and both phones seem to give me more than acceptable battery life.
The biggest complaint I have is the lack of accessories, cases and screen protectors for it.
I also would like our Canadian carriers to hurry up with the 4.4 updates.
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