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Does this happen to anyone else?

Friend or someone wants to see your phone... You open your "cool" apps to show them..
Phone freezes, locks up, doesn't operate right..
I swear, I can do whatever I want while alone, at my phone works perfect..
Yesterday I show my friends Slingplayer and Homerun3D, sure enough both programs give me problems..
LOL Was in a bad area for slingplayer to work (it works smoothly all the time) and was lagging.. Of course he was like "its a cool concept but who would would ever deal with the skipping"
LOL I swear it never does this, I tell him..
Then I go to show him the Homerun3D game and of course it locks up on me, lol
It always happens like that,...

Sounds like Murphy is a good friend of yours!
That happens to me sometimes but only when I'm doing something totally unimportant.

Your phone knows that your friends are unworthy to bask in its warm embrace and enlightenment.
It goes into clam mode, shuts up tight and looks like a paperweight until you put it away
That or a bad flash mixed with user error

my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.

potna said:
my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.
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Yea but I use Fresh's custom Rom..
Besides.. Who here actually doesn't use a custom rom?

More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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Picture a layer cake filled with froyo between the layers. A leaky app makes a hole in the layer, froyo leaks up and mixes with the next layers froyo, causing it to spill and the bottom to collapse. The maitre'd named NAND tries to restore it so it looks like the picture on the menu.
One day the froyo got real warm and the menus were changed simultaneously. NAND could not restore it and even the picture had changed.
You see the chef had thought it would be faster and take less work to refill the layers, rather than to assemble and build them when they were ordered.
Mural of the story (modern stories all have walls for murals to be posted on) a pair of dimes - standing on edge.
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task killers take bytes out of the cake when your not looking making it fall faster

Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"

Skeptron said:
Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"
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lmao...kickstand ftw!!!

potna said:
More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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I actually love sense and do not see why people wouldn't want it..
I also got an extended battery which I only use when I know I will not be near a power source for a while.. I have the Otterbox case and just LOVE IT!! so I try to keep with the stock battery..
That being said I use Fresh's rom, because its pretty much stock with some extra goodies.. And full Sense..
I really don't have problems with my phone.. Its just typical with Murphys law,, lol

Oh,i did think of something crappy.
When I first got my evo,i was telling my friends about how awesome it is and how sweet the camera and video recording is, now my video doesn't seem all that great. In fact in 720p it looks so crappy and choppy that I don't feel like its worth having or using.
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Just get a higher class SD card and replay that oh crappy video quality scenario all over again.
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lol...i can honestly say that I've never experienced that, thank GOD. Have you figured out the root cause?
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I don't get it, r u saying that something higher than what I have will fix the issue? I currently have a 16GB class 2.
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You can get a 32gb card and still have same issues. You need a class 4 or above. If I could remember I'd post direct statement from htc employee. A lot go with a class 6, but anything more than class 4 and its all the same fluff. Class 2 just doesn't write fast enough for Evo's video.
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I think I saw that conversation about the max speed the evo could take advantage of, but I thought I read some where anything beyond class 2 carries no benefit in how well our evos record video in 720p.
Mine is choppy outside in sunlight and simetimes the video out right freezes for a split second. As far recording inside its so low quality that I don't even try to record.
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Review/Warning

I just bought an Atrix, and I thought I would post a little review because in all my research before I bought the phone, I did not find one which said what I needed to hear. Hopefully this is useful and objective.
I have owned a OG Droid, Samsung Fascinate, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and this Atrix so I feel like I have good grounds for comparison.
Out of the box...
The Good: The phone's hardware is top notch. The specs are awesome.
The Bad: The Motorola Atrix in completly stock form (the one I bought anyways) is very buggy and laggy. When I first unboxed it and was doing my initial set up and installing a few apps, a number of different programs forced close. The whole experience was slow and frustrating. I would rate Moto Blur as simply horrible and disgusting.
The fact that Motorola was able to take a tegra 2 powered phone with 1GB of DDR2 ram and make it run choppy is beyond me.
With that being said... If you don't know how to or do not plan on rooting, or modifying the software on your phone, I would highly recommended you avoid the Atrix.
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.

I have only noticed lag for the first 15-30 seconds after power on. None after that...
Motoblur means nothing to me, and doesn't really seem to slow down my phone. I had lunch with a bunch of other android users, and they were all impressed by the atrix' snappiness...

One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.

I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.

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I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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DDR2 ram win.
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The only lag I've noticed is for a few seconds after the initial boot up, which is understandable. To say it is very laggy and buggy is crazy. Perhaps the unit you had was defective.
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Sounds like you may have a buggy device... Ive had three of them so far (one was replaced due to what I perceived to be a faulty battery and my wife also uses one). And I've not seen any of the lag you're talking about...
If it was a big enough occurance don't you think you would've read about it on these forums? This place is packed with android super users... no ones having problems like that ...
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plvaulter06 said:
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
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the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...

dinan said:
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
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.... the fingerprint scanner makes it real quick to unlock the phone.... and it's not easy enough to be accidentally pocket-unlocked like some other unlocking systems i've seen.... such as i think HTC's, where you just slide the one thing down. Hell, with the one pair of shorts i have, i was actually able to see the screen on my iPhone 4 when i had it, and unlock it THROUGH THE SHORTS if i wanted to.
And i think it'd be expected for things to be going a tad slow as soon as it's woken up. Look at computers. Whether it's booting... sleeping... hibernating.... if you expect to be able to do something without any form of lag the second either of those are recovered from, you'd be sorely mistaken.

neotekz said:
the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*

Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen

robwscott83 said:
NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!

Mustang302LX said:
Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
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yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???

Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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i have an atrix, i guess we just have different opinions on tinkering...i do like the change roms often and be able to upgrade to the newest android version without having to wait for the manufacture. theres so much more you can do when you open up the kernel, most of the bugs that people are having would be solved if the devs can get at the kernel. Why do you think developers are leaving the Atrix? there's only so much you can do with a locked bootloader. i never said i hated the phone(i wouldnt of bought it if i did) i just dont think it's a good phone for modding but hopefully that will change...

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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same with mine.. the ATT version of the Atrix must be loaded with crapware making the phone slow down. My Bell version flies right out of the box, even when using Motoblur!

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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+1 I agree, Atrix = speed I've rarely felt lags if any at all
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robwscott83 said:
yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
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It's still in Beta at 7.2 now. However I believe the webtop that was removed in the previous version was the hack to make it work with just an HDMI cable so you don't need the dock to make it work. I am on 7.2 and I have the webtop hack installed and it works perfect on my TV through just the HDMI cable.

I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.

starvinmrvn said:
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
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Welcome Brother I'm in the same boat =P tilt 2 to atrix is an amazingly wonderful jump ~!

I came from a captivate where roms are readily available. I enjoyed flashing and it was awesome to see how a device can mature. But the kernel development is where things truly shine. But even after all the flashing I just felt like things didn't quite work right. I thought it was the fact that 99% of the roms were based off the international galaxy s.
I love my atrix. Everything works. The battery life is awesome. The phone really flies. Motoblur sucks but its been taken care of. As long as we get more roms ill be happy. Unlocked bootloader would be nice but I don't see it happening
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What should i expect?

I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.

Personally I miss WP7. I had a focus, but I am more than happy with the Atrix. A lot of the issues people mention here are things that I do not get or notice. I can see the pixels on the screem, but only if I really try to look for them.
One thing the Atrix kills WP7 in is games. I'm playing Galaxy on fire 2 and History Channel Great Battles; they are great and rival my PS3.

I have a HTC trophy, and it really is a let down. Battery life is poor. Lasting maybe 7 hours when idle and when im using it throughout the day, usually it will last for about 4 hours. Camera isnt great, games are really awkward to play, oh and the speaker is crackles regardless of how loud it is. I will admit i do like the music player, the photoviewer and overall UI is really nice. But im sure i can customize android to the same standard. Right? Though, I heard atrix is alot smoother when playing games, but i dont know if it could rival my ps3 haha

I'll be getting one soon as well. can't wait
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your username is perfect OP

I too came from WP7 (lg quantum) and I tell you the Atrix is amazing I've never had any of the issues people reported and the battery really is that great. If you properly charge it from day one (drain the battery then let it charge for a day, and repeat) the battery will be amazing I no lie get around 14hrs of useage and im constantly youtubing, texting, downloading some game or playing a game, but using setcpu I have it underclocked at 816mhz but even at full I would get 10-12 hours of use. And as far as root. My favorite method is gladroot. Its clean neat and seems to work throughout updates.
But thats just my 2 cents
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Thanks Guys, I really cant wait to get my hands on it. Battery life is a big issue with me, considering my phone was at 50% by 8:30 in the morning, and i had only taken it off the charger at 7ish. But to be fair, i had been on youtube and reddit for the hour and a bit. And I learnt today that my speaker doesnt work, its now just plain static. How lovely.

Atrixx said:
I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.
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I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.

WiredPirate said:
I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.
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I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.

Atrixx said:
I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are roms

Atrixx said:
I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are no custom ROMs or custom kernels available for the Atrix at the moment, there are "pseudo ROMs" that apply themes and hacks etc but still use the Motorola kernel. Supposedly 2nd init will open the door for some true ROMs/kernels in the future, but there is no eta. Dont hold your breathe for an unlocked bootloader like many are doing, there is no reason to expect one. I love CM7 on my Captivate and before that I flashed every ROM to the moon and back.. Hands down the Atrix is a better piece of hardware and is much more of a reliable phone out of the box. I am much more happy with the Atrix in its current state than I ever was with my Captivate running any custom ROM.
Edit: I stand corrected. It seams there is an unlocked bootloader solution being offered by Moto now is some countries and/or on a few leaked builds. Fingers crossed Moto/Att push this update to us also! But as of right now there is no official word. Only speculation and word passed from ear to ear.

Nexus 4 on Android 4.1

Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?

furyoflight1029 said:
Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?
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Cupcake and Donut had the best batterylife :silly:

you not getting great battery life?, the nexus 4 is great with JB, try franco kernel for improvement, i got an extra 1.5 hours screen time due to it.

Nexus 4 only supports 4.2 and upwards

Find a 2.1 ROM for the Nexus One and flash it to the Nexus 4. The battery life will blow your mind.
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I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.

Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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pretty sure it does. battery life will probably last forever.

furyoflight1029 said:
I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.
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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.

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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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It has been proven multiple times that the optimus g and other devices with similar hardware have way better battery life than the nexus 4. just look for some battery benchmarks.
Furthermore, 4.2 seems more resource heavy than 4.1 was, which again leads to a higher CPU, along with other stuff, usage, which in the end results in worse battery life.
Whatever it is, there is a difference between the optimus g and the nexus 4.

estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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First of all, I was only giving an opinion; i did say "seems", did i not? I don't need to prove anything to you, because it has already been proven. Search endurance rating for both phones. You make it sound like I was trying to start an argument, well, I'm not. I only wanted to know, the so called "IF" it will actually improve battery life. Seeing that you're an active member of this forum, I assumed you would know, that Android version used does indeed affect battery life. If you're not posting anything helpful (like the few peeps above, for the sake of trolling), then please don't.

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just look for some battery benchmarks.
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You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..

styckx said:
You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..
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I'm not a lawyer and this isn't a lawsuit. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I stated that there are enough evidences out there which can be found easily with a simple Google search. If someone is interested in refuting my statements, he can go ahead and do so. I'm not going to spoonfeed everything.

I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!

Zorachus said:
I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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ROM? Kernel? Please
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nschiwy said:
Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!
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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?

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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?
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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.

nschiwy said:
I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.
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I was aware of the fact that older versions are incompatible, which was why I joked too. But, I'm not aware of whether 4.1 would be compatible since it's still relatively new. I think you misunderstood, I wasn't defending the title; simply arguing with some of the things people said, like estallings15 and you. You may be more knowledgeable about this than I'm, but by no means, would i have to agree that searching for new ways, to improve my battery life is bad.

XupModz said:
ROM? Kernel? Please
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Just checked my stays right now. 5h 32m On Screen time. Total time off charger 12 hours. Battery at 19%
I get 5h + On Screen time every day.
Xylon ROM 02-23 build + Matrix kernel v7.0
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Rubbish phone

I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster

So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.

welshandy2322 said:
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.

If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.

The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...

I've changed keyboard

I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up

There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device

Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT

You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.

Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.

I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".

lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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