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It may be a miracle. I was using the International Samsung Galaxy Note and was only receiving edge on T-Mobile. I learned why this was and hoped it would change. About three nights ago exactly I was trying to use my data which was edge which did not work at all. I was not sure why. Then the following night I was at a dinner party in Cougar Mountain Drive which is in the Bellevue area. All of a sudden I turned on my data and guess what I saw. A big H+ staring me back in the face. I was so overjoyed I could not even begin to explain. But alas, I could not longer see the H+ when I returned home in the Seattle Area. Is T-Mobile finally refarming? We can all hope can't we? What do you guys think?
Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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that's only with the at&t version. I believe OP was referring to T-mobile expanding their network bands to the ones used by at&t
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Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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That's awesome advice....not. Are you trying to get him to brick his phone?
This is an N7000.
T-Mobile has been working on standing up the 1900 frequency, which is the same band AT&T uses, and the band included in all international phones. They have been using AWS which is the 1700 band. This is why all new-ish T-mobile phones are pentaband. You must have been in an area that they already converted over. It is supposed to be complete sometime in 2013.
I have a similar story. While visiting in Concord, CA. Downtown where the Old Spaghetti Factory is: I was able to get HSPA+ on my Infuse i997. Looking forward to the refarm taking place all over the usual spots.
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That's awesome advice....not. Are you trying to get him to brick his phone?
This is an N7000.
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Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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KayxGee1 said:
Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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:| You didn't bother reading the rest of the thread did you? It can only be done on the ATT note because ATT was preparing for their merge wit T-mobile. "Do some research."
Its the same reason that the Skyfire can be flashed to t-mobile.
Post it on airportal.de because it is the only way to track it besides HowardForums.
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Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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It's okay to be ignorant but no need for remarks like that. International note and at&t are different.
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Teo032 said:
It's okay to be ignorant but no need for remarks like that. International note and at&t are different.
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I now understand its not those models. It was my fault for not realizing. People on this forum are so quick to pounce on someone's mistake. His comment wasn't necessary and neither was mine. Simple.
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I understand that T-mobile has re-farmed 1900 MHz for 3G service in the Boston, MA area.
Is this service available to T-Mobile pre-paid PAYG customers? On the $3/day plan?
Is there any requirement for a GBA SIM? Or any newer SIM?
Are there any specialized APN settings?
Any specialized phone settings? "Force" WCDMA 1900 MHz only from the Service Menu?
I have an international un-locked Samsung Galaxy S II (I9100), and a 7 year old T-Mobile pre-paid SIM.
I have been able to use GSM data (2G: GPRS/EDGE) as recently as July, 2012.
My visits are brief so I use the $2/day plan but would like to be able to use 3G.
current reports,
no specific deals with TMO regarding network sharing,
i'd doubt AT&T will lend the networks without a fair price
San Francisco N Beach
Also found in San Francisco -- forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33096754
I am currently a Sprint customer, and while I am not very happy with their coverage, the rumor is they are building LTE all over the Tampa Bay area, and I should be covered by their LTE by year end (if the rumored schedule is true).
I am considering going to AT&T who does NOT have LTE in my area north of Tampa, BUT they have the HSPA+ in my area.
One of the things that AT&T always brags about is that you can do simultaneous data and voice with AT&T phones, but CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) cannot do that simultaneously. I heard that some CDMA phones have an additional antenna which will allow for simultaneous voice/data.
So here are my questions:
* Are my understanding of simultaneous voice/data limitations correct?
* Do we know if the Sprint variant of the Note 2 will support this?
All of the new cdma phones do voice and data including note 2 example the gs3 the evo lte and any new lte phone going forward
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I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
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I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
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I don't consider the iphlub 5 a phone
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Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
From the initial FCC docs, it doesn't appear that this device will support SVDO for 3G/CDMA
Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
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Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
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Sure can. I do that often with my S3.
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Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...note-2-big-enough-for-everything-except-svdo/
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Bummer
Gordon Ramsay said:
Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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eh... Perfect. This is probably going to be the kick I needed to go to AT&T. So sad...
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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Apologies.
AT&T doesn't have LTE up here no, BUT they have HSPA+ 4G, which is better than the 3G I got with Sprint.
It appears if I want SVDO I will have to go AT&T, or just pray Sprint comes through with their LTE expansion up here...........
Is it true ths the international version wont work on verizon 4gLTE . I am in NYC , I have verizon and debating on which version to get. I so can wait to get rid of this bio
yes, that's correct. Verizon doesn't even use SIM cards.. so you won't be able to use it.
the only network that might get it is AT&T. T-Mobile can use the phone, but only with 2G, so if you really want octa version, you'll have to switch to AT&T. this said, you'll get 3G, but whether or not you'll get LTE is another thing.. the rest of the world is pretty far behind us in LTE sadly..
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actually tmobile will be able to use 3g on the intl version also, IF the area is refarmed to 1900.
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How about tmobile hspa+ 42mbps?
i don't think it works on those networks at all. no sim...
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On which carrier?
yes ,on Verizons network
Opps!!! Im sorry on T-Mobile.well actually is anyone getting Lte on T-Mobile in any states.Does the T-Mobile ssg3 have Lte bands in it. Thanks.
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I'm getting T-Mobile LTE in Virginia Beach, VA.
Greg1964 said:
Opps!!! Im sorry on T-Mobile.well actually is anyone getting Lte on T-Mobile in any states.Does the T-Mobile ssg3 have Lte bands in it. Thanks.
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The SGS3 (T999) does NOT have the LTE radio built in. You will need to purchase the new SGS3 model from T-Mobile, the T999L in order to get the LTE radio and frequencies.
So basically if I buy the HTC one or the Gs4 from T-Mobile I will have Lte service. Thanks...
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Greg1964 said:
So basically if I buy the HTC one or the Gs4 from T-Mobile I will have Lte service. Thanks...
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Yup! No problem! speeds were tested at the T-Mobile store on Baseline & Rural, on a Galaxy Note II on display in the store.
If someone has a phone such as the ssg3 I-999 phone that doesn't have Lte bands but its cap able of 42 m.b.p.s. hspda isn't that pretty much as good as having a Lte phone. Thanks!!!
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Greg1964 said:
If someone has a phone such as the ssg3 I-999 phone that doesn't have Lte bands but its cap able of 42 m.b.p.s. hspda isn't that pretty much as good as having a Lte phone. Thanks!!!
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No, HSPA+ 42mbps is not the same as LTE. It's close, but it's not the same. You're not going to get anywhere close to 40mbps on HSPA with T-Mobile, the network has enough users on it at any given time, you may come close to 30, but you'll never break that barrier due to the specification limitations and tower limitations. LTE is new hardware and software backbone which supports much more bandwidth being handled at once, to more users at once.
The Phoenix Metropolitan area should be Release 7, Category 14 (21mbps), anywhere that has the 42mbps should be on Release 8, Category 20 or 24, depending on the model of their phone (20=single radio, 24=dual-radio). Wikipedia
My friends n4 gets download speeds of 35- 43 with upload speeds of 22-25 m.b.p.s. and he lives in mesa,a.z.
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Currently thinking of leaving Verizon. I decided to give T-Mobile/metropcs a try... I can honestly say that I will be leaving sooner than later. Even though I can't access their LTE network their h+ 42.2 network is plenty fast... And at only $40 unlimited everything I don't think I can pass this deal up.
Anyone else out there on another carrier besides Verizon? What plan and how much does it cost... Verizon is killing my pockets... since my wife stopped working to stay home with the kids, looking for ways to save on every bill...
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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squeeze said:
Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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craigbailey1986 said:
I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat - no T-Mobile LTE, but do get HSPA+. I'm on the prepaid $30 100min/Unlimited Text+Data for T-Mobile. Unfortunately T-Mo coverage here is only decent along major roads, and the H+ speeds are not very consistent block-to-block. I'm probably going to just cancel the prepaid service since I only get Edge at my desk at work, which doesn't help me conserve data usage on my Verizon device, which was my intention.
My H+ speeds have ranged from about 400kbps all the way to 12mbps... potentially faster than my Verizon speeds on LTE. Just upsetting that the service is still too spotty to use it as my primary carrier.
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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craigbailey1986 said:
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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Well like you said, sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Do you have unlimited on Verizon? How much data do you need? I know that T-Mobile will give you unlimited but I'm thinking that if you don't need unlimited, you could switch to T-Mobile for now and then switch back to Verizon later on when finances are a bit more stable.
As long as T-Mobile serves your immediate needs, then it should be fine.
Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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craigbailey1986 said:
Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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Yeah at this point I am paying 180 for 2 lines and I could save about 80 if we went to T-Mobile. But there service is not worth the savings I don't think.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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I believe it does have a 1700/2100 bands supported (per GSM Arena), and I do not think I'm in a re-farmed 1900 area. I had a T-Mobile SIM in a Sprint HTC One, DNA, and Lumia 822 and none were pulling in H+, just Edge or 3G.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx will not pick up 1700/2100 areas. Only the refarmed 1900. However it does support lte band 4 which will probably have its switch thrown later when vzw starts using their aws spectrum. It's not active now as far as I can tell because I can't get any better than H+ in Chicago which is entirely refarmed tmo and att doesn't trigger it either. My inkling is that vzw has that part of the radio turned off at the moment until they launch that portion of the network.
Image attached shows what the phone does support with the VZW radios.
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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Just because the chip supports it doesn't mean that it's active or usable. Look at the nexus and its lte if you need an example. My post above yours show what moto intends to allow for this device. It "could" support more but the bands aren't active.
What I'm curious about is if we can get this ***** unlocked... Can we pull the radio files from the Tmobile X to unlock the 1700/2100 and AWS LTE bands (which the phone does support but again, are inactive at the moment). We would lose the cdma bands but for the people switching to tmo... I don't think they'd care.
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You learn something new every day. Lol
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I have one in Canada and we have band 4 LTE on rogers and bell. I'm unable to get LTE. I'm hoping with root and radio flash or a Verizon update it can get lte working.
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If you go to T-Mobile as your sole provider, be prepared to say goodbye to any signal at all inside of office buildings, malls, warehouses, grocery stores, etc
I like my T-Mobile HTC One, but the amount of places in Los Angeles that are dead zones is very frustrating.
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
raichur0xx0rz said:
It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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When vzw does their aws rollout I expect that a software update will roll out with it and this will change. For now it is HSPA+ only.
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