I am currently a Sprint customer, and while I am not very happy with their coverage, the rumor is they are building LTE all over the Tampa Bay area, and I should be covered by their LTE by year end (if the rumored schedule is true).
I am considering going to AT&T who does NOT have LTE in my area north of Tampa, BUT they have the HSPA+ in my area.
One of the things that AT&T always brags about is that you can do simultaneous data and voice with AT&T phones, but CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) cannot do that simultaneously. I heard that some CDMA phones have an additional antenna which will allow for simultaneous voice/data.
So here are my questions:
* Are my understanding of simultaneous voice/data limitations correct?
* Do we know if the Sprint variant of the Note 2 will support this?
All of the new cdma phones do voice and data including note 2 example the gs3 the evo lte and any new lte phone going forward
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I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
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I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
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Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
From the initial FCC docs, it doesn't appear that this device will support SVDO for 3G/CDMA
Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
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Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
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Sure can. I do that often with my S3.
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Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...note-2-big-enough-for-everything-except-svdo/
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Bummer
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Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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eh... Perfect. This is probably going to be the kick I needed to go to AT&T. So sad...
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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Apologies.
AT&T doesn't have LTE up here no, BUT they have HSPA+ 4G, which is better than the 3G I got with Sprint.
It appears if I want SVDO I will have to go AT&T, or just pray Sprint comes through with their LTE expansion up here...........
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Were getting better connection since tmo and att didnt work out, tmo is getting more spectrum http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/11uax01-jpg-e1327448591272.png
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is it nationwide or just the rural areas that tmo doesn't have the best coverage? thanks for the info by the way
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If you search there is a list of towers they are going to share (big cities) but they are getting extra spectrum as well.
Don't have a link sorry.
Read about it awhile ago.
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is it nationwide or just the rural areas that tmo doesn't have the best coverage? thanks for the info by the way
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Well as much as i know tmobile didnt have much say in it, att gave tmo the spectrum that it was barely using so my guess would b its the lower population areas, but i do see major city upgrades too
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More spectrum doesn't mean better coverage. AT&T only gave T-Mobile spectrum in places that AT&T doesn't need it, and T-Mobile has some, but not enough.
That's why only 2-3 markets got 20MHz of spectrum, and those were AT&T LTE markets that have 700 up and running.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2211
It says LTE is still coming but the termination of the agreement with Lightsquared how will tis affect LTE? I just curious and figured i'd get better answers from a comunity full of smart people .
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It means LTE will not be in lightsquared's 1600mhz band, and instead will be in Sprint's 1900 and 800(former iden) bands which they would have been using anyway. So it means Sprint may be looking for additional spectrum to increase capacity down the line.
There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquared deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquad deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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There were threads about the possibility
of this happening, it explained what it ment for sprint as A company and whether they would get lte or not but not what it ment for us, the lte users.
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It means LTE will not be in lightsquared's 1600mhz band, and instead will be in Sprint's 1900 and 800(former iden) bands which they would have been using anyway. So it means Sprint may be looking for additional spectrum to increase capacity down the line.
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Thanks.
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There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquared deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
If so:
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
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I think being a sprint customer, by now we all should be use to slow/partial roll outs of any kind that sprint has their hands on. But I highly doubt they would drop a contract or whatever without having some sort of plan. That would just be horrible business to kill something like that and just stand there and go "now what."
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
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No. Lightsquared's LTE was to be an addition to Sprint's LTE; same with Clearwire's LTE.
Materially, however, we will have less 4G LTE coverage/spectrum due to the loss of this agreement, and Sprint lost a lucrative revenue source (billions of dollars).
sprint have lost one, but gained an new one.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cric...Clearwire-in-providing-4G-LTE-service_id28049
sprint also say, if lightsquared's service gets ok'd one they are open to work with them
Looks like Orange County, CA and San Diego (all of it) in the second wave of LTE roll out...
http://s4gru.com/
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Looks like Orange County, CA and San Diego (all of it) in the second wave of LTE roll out...
http://s4gru.com/
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SAN ANTONIO is getting it first
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
Lol that Baltimore deployment it looks like i'll be right OUTSIDE the LTE coverage area >_<
FML
Aah, I missed the L.A. in first tier. I will probably still wait until the May 22nd announcement of the S3 to see if these specs and design are real..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-photo-of-the-galaxy-s-iii-the-plot-thickens/
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Lets see your Carrier Speed test with this newest device available.
Please post your Area/Location and Carrier!
Lets see who really has the fastest network...
AT&T in Los Angeles on Hspa+
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Inside the office. Not bad for no LTE. T-mobile.
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Inside the office. Not bad for no LTE. T-mobile.
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Where are you located? Thats great.
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Where are you located? Thats great.
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North Dallas.
T-mobile Chicago west suburbs
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Maverick777 said:
Inside the office. Not bad for no LTE. T-mobile.
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That is ridiculous! That's better than LTE in most cities. Is that consistent?
San Diego, CA - T-Mobile
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That is ridiculous! That's better than LTE in most cities. Is that consistent?
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Yes. I've tested multiple times today. I've also tested it in various parts of the city the last few days. It's always above 10mbps. Most of the time it's above 15.
Edit: More results after mine that's even faster. Nice work T-mobile.
Wow. Mine sucks.
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Boy what a pointless and bandwidth wasting thread this is. Look my penis is bigger than yours. One of the many reasons it was a horrible idea to combine carries into one forum. BTW are pictures needed and what exactly this thread has to do with the GS3
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Well, it is interesting to see since the S III is the first phone available on all 4 carriers that includes LTE and 42mbps HSPA+ on T-mobile. At least as far as I know.
T-Mobile
Jersey City (The Heights) NJ
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T-Mobile FTW
Us Sprint folks are too embarrassed to post on this thread. Unless you want my WiFi speed that is
I got from the low 13Mbps to 28Mbps inside my house. This must be the thing of future for Internet connection... not very consistent at all. At least when I used my Captivate with HSPA+, I consistently got 2Mbps
This is actually a usefull thread I'll be getting my GS3 tomorrow but on my one s get from 8-16 mbps leaving sprint till LTE comes alive and hopefully is good in Las Vegas
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This is actually a usefull thread I'll be getting my GS3 tomorrow but on my one s get from 8-16 mbps leaving sprint till LTE comes alive and hopefully is good in Las Vegas
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Yeah, I was getting consistent 2mbit in san fran on my E4GT...in hawaii we get max 900k
Sprint,it may be slow, but it's still unlimited.
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This is att lte in Nashville.
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It may be a miracle. I was using the International Samsung Galaxy Note and was only receiving edge on T-Mobile. I learned why this was and hoped it would change. About three nights ago exactly I was trying to use my data which was edge which did not work at all. I was not sure why. Then the following night I was at a dinner party in Cougar Mountain Drive which is in the Bellevue area. All of a sudden I turned on my data and guess what I saw. A big H+ staring me back in the face. I was so overjoyed I could not even begin to explain. But alas, I could not longer see the H+ when I returned home in the Seattle Area. Is T-Mobile finally refarming? We can all hope can't we? What do you guys think?
Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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that's only with the at&t version. I believe OP was referring to T-mobile expanding their network bands to the ones used by at&t
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Probably Tmo rolling out 4G in select areas.
You can always apply the Tmo radio to get 4G
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That's awesome advice....not. Are you trying to get him to brick his phone?
This is an N7000.
T-Mobile has been working on standing up the 1900 frequency, which is the same band AT&T uses, and the band included in all international phones. They have been using AWS which is the 1700 band. This is why all new-ish T-mobile phones are pentaband. You must have been in an area that they already converted over. It is supposed to be complete sometime in 2013.
I have a similar story. While visiting in Concord, CA. Downtown where the Old Spaghetti Factory is: I was able to get HSPA+ on my Infuse i997. Looking forward to the refarm taking place all over the usual spots.
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That's awesome advice....not. Are you trying to get him to brick his phone?
This is an N7000.
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Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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:| You didn't bother reading the rest of the thread did you? It can only be done on the ATT note because ATT was preparing for their merge wit T-mobile. "Do some research."
Its the same reason that the Skyfire can be flashed to t-mobile.
Post it on airportal.de because it is the only way to track it besides HowardForums.
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Yes. That's my dream is to ruin other devices. Its already been successfully done with the AT&T Note. Do some research.
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It's okay to be ignorant but no need for remarks like that. International note and at&t are different.
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Teo032 said:
It's okay to be ignorant but no need for remarks like that. International note and at&t are different.
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I now understand its not those models. It was my fault for not realizing. People on this forum are so quick to pounce on someone's mistake. His comment wasn't necessary and neither was mine. Simple.
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I understand that T-mobile has re-farmed 1900 MHz for 3G service in the Boston, MA area.
Is this service available to T-Mobile pre-paid PAYG customers? On the $3/day plan?
Is there any requirement for a GBA SIM? Or any newer SIM?
Are there any specialized APN settings?
Any specialized phone settings? "Force" WCDMA 1900 MHz only from the Service Menu?
I have an international un-locked Samsung Galaxy S II (I9100), and a 7 year old T-Mobile pre-paid SIM.
I have been able to use GSM data (2G: GPRS/EDGE) as recently as July, 2012.
My visits are brief so I use the $2/day plan but would like to be able to use 3G.
current reports,
no specific deals with TMO regarding network sharing,
i'd doubt AT&T will lend the networks without a fair price
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Also found in San Francisco -- forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33096754
SEE POST 30 TO CHANGE YOUR PRIORITY BAND COVERAGE!
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I asked the store rep if Sprint is working on a fix, but we all know the Sprint reps are usually useless answering these questions (by this I mean at the store they are only trying to make a sell). Her answer was that Sprint is working on a fix that will fix all phones with an OTA. My next question was is this a hardware or software problem which she responded that it is a tower problem. I looked online for an answer but all I could find is that Sprint responded with a weird kinda lame answer that didn't really say if they are working on a fix or not. On Sprint's Forum a rep says they are, but they say a lot of things on the forum that aren't correct also. This seems to be a very frustrating situation actually.
Does it matter to you?
It does to me, but at the same time it isn't a function I use all the time. My only reason that it has helped me, is that it has greatly helped me with work a few or more times.
I am kinda forced to buy a new phone for framily / billing reasons... huge bill without it. I am sorta thinking that I will upgrade the phone but at the same time keep my S4 handy in case I hate the S5. I went to the store today and I have to say it actually surprised me with it's new version of Touchwiz- even though I usually hate Touchwiz.
The only real reason I can see me upgrading is the camera and battery algorithms for power saving.
I call crap!
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
I spoke with sprint today and they said it would be fixed when spark opens up nation wide.
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Spark is crap!!!
The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...dors-absence-sprints-spark-program/2013-10-30
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The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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Yes, I forgot to mention it is not only the S5, but all Triband phones. I mostly wanted to put this out here in the open for feedback and other peoples knowledge when contemplating the S5 as an update. I would have been absolutely pissed if I found out after the fact.
It's being discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712240
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They have to enable it on the network side to allow dual channels on a single LTE channel
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pro_granade said:
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
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How do you turn off Spark?
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How do you turn off Spark?
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You can't
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This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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Read this. It will explain it much better.
It's a long read, but well worth your time
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
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Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
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How do we use wifi calling?
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Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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BubZX said:
Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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I had 4G on my S3 in New Orleans and I currently have 4G with my S5
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I don't have an S5 yet but I have a Mega with Spark and I have no issues whatsoever.
Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.View attachment 2686876
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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Where do you live? And also what i did was i went into my settings ##data# and made band 41 as my primary. My list is #1 band 41 as primary, #2 is band 25 and #3 is band 26 since its not active here in Miami yet but band 41 is doing great so far as you can see.
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