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Ics stunner 4.3 tablet ui video

Ice cream sandwich 4.0.3.. table UI (ics stunner 4.3) on my galaxy note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-lfpmw5BY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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wow i like this video and i like your tablet mode very nice video...plz can u give me ur configuration of ur tablet mode and the setting in apex launcher bcz it didnt gave me like urs

Wow that's awesome... Can it still make calls??
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Hey man, have you had it where you go to install an App and the 'pop' up dialog disappears until you touch it? Pretty much any dialog of the type disappears on AOKP in tablet mode. (atleast the version I'm using)

This is 213 dpi in 4.3 stunner. There's no dialog problem what so ever. Yes I can make and receive calls without any problem. This is the most stable ics I've ever used on note just follow the download instructions carefully
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download instructions?Where?

Sweetness indeed...
Can you put 5 columns of apps like in GB, it seems that your video shows only 4. Although plenty of rows.
Also, and although I think it's mandatory as per the ICS specs, can you avoid the 3 hoe, back and search buttons in the screen and instead use the physical ones, even in landscape mode?
Thanks.

Is the S-pen compatible with this ROM?

You mind posting the settings used? I changed the dpi to 213 but I can only use the middle of the screen. Not sure what else needs tweaking to be able to use the full screen...

Great little video
I used the tablet mode for a couple of days and it's a nice change! However, now i'm using the phone mode on ICS Stunner 4.3 and it's equally as awesome

What you guys talking about,...which rom ,what ,,damn did I miss something?
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dzontra11 said:
download instructions?Where?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747762
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bcn_nospam said:
Sweetness indeed...
Can you put 5 columns of apps like in GB, it seems that your video shows only 4. Although plenty of rows.
Also, and although I think it's mandatory as per the ICS specs, can you avoid the 3 hoe, back and search buttons in the screen and instead use the physical ones, even in landscape mode?
Thanks.
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No I don't think we can put 5 columns in apex launcher. That came with the rom. I ain't sure about other launchers.
And I don't think you can remove those three keys from the navigation bar..
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S pen isn't completely compatible.
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flo7002 said:
You mind posting the settings used? I changed the dpi to 213 but I can only use the middle of the screen. Not sure what else needs tweaking to be able to use the full screen...
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I disabled automatic grid size in apex launcher settings>home screen settings. And set the potrait grid size to 9*8. I like having many icons on the desktop so this grid size helps me. You can try 6*6 or anything else you find good for you
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xp3rto said:
S pen isn't completely compatible.
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Is that just the button features you're referring to (ie. screenshot, quick menu etc)?

robot1000 said:
Is that just the button features you're referring to (ie. screenshot, quick menu etc)?
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Yes screen shot and quick menu don't work..
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In Apex set 5x8 for landscape mode!

Problem getting into tablet mode
I apologise for asking this question, but I haven't found an answer within the forum anywhere and I am unable to post it in the developer section due to me being a new user. I've been using the ICS Stunner 5.0 beta ROM for the past two days now and I am unable to get it to boot into tablet mode. I have followed all of the steps in Euphoria Control to get it into tablet mode, including a custom DPI of 213. I performed a clean install with the ROM and my phone has full root access.
Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23848976&highlight=tablet+mode+stunner#post23848976
Post #145.may be can help you.

New launcher (JB 4.2.1)

Regarding the new stock launcher in JB 4.2.1 (and beyond?)...
1) How do I now switch from the three CPU performance mode? (power saving/balanced/performance)
2) How do I quickly switch wifi, GPS etc on/off without having to go to the settings?
3) The new slim bar at the top, takes up extra space? We now have even less available screen space than before?
I feel slightly annoyed by Google's idea of progress... in similar fashion to the recent YouTube app updates, the philosophy seems to be: remove features and rearrange stuff.
What do you think?
(I've posted this in the WW 4.2.1 update thread, but I think it deserves its own thread. This is not about the 4.2.1 update in general, it's about the new stock launcher)

Evan_ said:
Regarding the new stock launcher in JB 4.2.1 (and beyond?)...
1) How do I now switch from the three CPU performance mode? (power saving/balanced/performance)
2) How do I quickly switch wifi, GPS etc on/off without having to go to the settings?
3) The new slim bar at the top, takes up extra space? We now have even less available screen space than before?
I feel slightly annoyed by Google's idea of progress... in similar fashion to the recent YouTube app updates, the philosophy seems to be: remove features and rearrange stuff.
What do you think?
(I've posted this in the WW 4.2.1 update thread, but I think it deserves its own thread.This is not about the 4.2.1 update in general, it's about the new stock launcher)
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Just switch back to the old launcher in the settings menu.

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Just switch back to the old launcher in the settings menu.
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Thanks, I saw that option. But it is not a guarantee that it will be there ad infinitum. I wanted to make this post because maybe there is something I was missing in the new launcher.

i believe in 4.2.2 google added a long press functionality to the quick toggles to allow them to be turned on/off quickly. i know i have it on cm10.1 on my phone...
I used the new launcher for about 5 mins before reverting to the old one. I'm sorry, but it's just not practical for a tablet!
also, is it just me or is the multitasking ui kind of dumb?
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I switched mine to the new launcher (after checking here that I would be able to revert).
I don't think I lasted even a minute. I actually said ew! out loud.
Did not like that the entire bottom is just the three soft buttons, and centered as well, so i can't reach it with my thumb (I use the tablet almost exclusively in landscape mode). There may be a way to change that, but I also didn't care for the time in the small font up top either.
I hope they never force us to use that launcher. I guess there's always Nova Launcher, which I use on my phone, but don't on the tablet.
Thanks,
Brian

The 4.2 tablet UI works really well on the N7, but doesn't feel quite right on the 10.1" tabs. I really like having the dock back though, and while I appreciate the 'four corners' approach to the Honeycomb UI, I prefer having everything within my thumbs' reach. If Google used an inverted phone shade in the lower right and the on-screen buttons in the lower left for the future tablet UI, I think we'd have a winner.

Even with Nova launcher you still get the same layout.
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i actually like the idea of three buttons home back recent apps in the center, so i don't have to reach my hand to the left side, i also like that's there are 2 "notification centers" (one is the "real", the other is quick settings). but i don't like to have 2 bars on top and bottom, so i switched to the old style,
i guess i'll use the new style if they combine the 2 bars into one
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nooktablet said:
i actually like the idea of three buttons home back recent apps in the center, so i don't have to reach my hand to the left side, i also like that's there are 2 "notification centers" (one is the "real", the other is quick settings). but i don't like to have 2 bars on top and bottom, so i switched to the old style,
i guess i'll use the new style if they combine the 2 bars into one
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If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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new ion? said:
If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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That's exactly what I want
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I think you're talking about 4.1 layout (tablet mode) and 4.2 (phablet) - and as far as I read before you can easily switch between these two somewhere in Asus Settings (or device settings?) Then you should have the old layout with navbar on bottom and on the right status bar (I don't know if they cooked in the Tiles there) :good:

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I think you're talking about 4.1 layout (tablet mode) and 4.2 (phablet) - and as far as I read before you can easily switch between these two somewhere in Asus Settings (or device settings?) Then you should have the old layout with navbar on bottom and on the right status bar (I don't know if they cooked in the Tiles there) :good:
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i think we have in settings a field called "launcher settings" !
and yea, i still use 4.1 launcher because we have the option to lock bottom taskbar when we are playing or whatever we do. :victory:

I'm glad for the 4.1 mode. Played with 4.2 launcher mode for almost an hour, but I just couldn't get used to it. It's just wasting space. Hopefully Asus will keep this in the future too.

cr4zy.b0y said:
i think we have in settings a field called "launcher settings" !
and yea, i still use 4.1 launcher because we have the option to lock bottom taskbar when we are playing or whatever we do. :victory:
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You can lock taskbar on 4.2 mode
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new ion? said:
If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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This is also exactly what I want, I hope that Google gives us this layout in a future update!
Did anyone notice when using the 4.1 launcher (the older one), the UI is kind of too high on the screen? The top of my app icons are over the "google" button used to make searches and there's quite a big unused space between the system bar and the bottom apps. Not sure if I'm making any sense. Am I alone to have this issue?

No issues here
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Maybe I'm confused, but I don't really see how this allows us to multitask better. Is there an option to have two apps on the screen at a time or something? I couldn't see any real difference other than layout, so I just switched back to the old layout since I don't really like the new one. Is there anything else that changed?
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Fermion6 said:
Maybe I'm confused, but I don't really see how this allows us to multitask better. Is there an option to have two apps on the screen at a time or something? I couldn't see any real difference other than layout, so I just switched back to the old layout since I don't really like the new one. Is there anything else that changed?
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The idea is just to have a uniform layout across all devices.
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I don't know if any one has tried the old launcher but when i swithed back i couldn't get my weather widget to update. Anyone else run into this issue. Ended up going back to the 4.2.1 launcher because of it.
Got it to work removed the widget, went to apps in the setting and cleared the data and cache then reloaded widget works fine.
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I might be the minority here but I actually love the new layout
I switch the CPU mode by going to the settings. This might be annoying for some but for me, it's not a big deal as I just leave it on performance mode
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Tablet UI on 4.3

Hi all,
Has anyone successfully obtained the tablet UI on 4.3 yet.
I have just updated from PA and gone back to stock but really miss the tablet layout

I am also interested in tablet ui. I know custom Roms will be eventually updated and provide tablet ui but it is nice if we can have a workaround for stock ROM.
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What do you people see in that ui? It's horrible!

lvnatic said:
What do you people see in that ui? It's horrible!
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I personally just really prefer the layout and look and that all my stuff happens at the bottom and only one black bar.

waringd said:
I personally just really prefer the layout and look and that all my stuff happens at the bottom and only one black bar.
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Me too.
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the tablet UI is easy on the fingers as well, you can navigate round the tablet without having to let go or lift a hand

Two black bars is a waste of space and harder to use. It is specially very good for large tablets like nexus 10.
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fifthelement said:
Two black bars is a waste of space and harder to use. It is specially very good for large tablets like nexus 10.
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With these two apps you do not need any black bars and their wasted space:
Full!screen: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen&hl=en
> removes both bars and provides a notification pop-up
LMT (PIE): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
> The PIE feature allows you to customize two semi-circles sets of buttons which usually replaces navigation buttons plus a lot more.
They both work with Android 4.3 but not perfectly. I suspect these minor issues will be fixed soon.
> Both add an unwanted notification that their perspective app is running. Clicking on them leads to the apps settings page.
> Full!screen will not autostart but can be launched manually and works fine from there. Its configuration page app states that it is incompatible with 4.3 but works anyway.
I have been using both apps for several months now and cannot imagine going back to having the wasted screen space.

3DSammy said:
With these two apps you do not need any black bars and their wasted space:
Full!screen: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen&hl=en
> removes both bars and provides a notification pop-up
LMT (PIE): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
> The PIE feature allows you to customize two semi-circles sets of buttons which usually replaces navigation buttons plus a lot more.
They both work with Android 4.3 but not perfectly. I suspect these minor issues will be fixed soon.
> Both add an unwanted notification that their perspective app is running. Clicking on them leads to the apps settings page.
> Full!screen will not autostart but can be launched manually and works fine from there. Its configuration page app states that it is incompatible with 4.3 but works anyway.
I have been using both apps for several months now and cannot imagine going back to having the wasted screen space.
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I tried using those and they worked great but it removed the black bars from all user accounts and my brother got mad so I had to stop. When I stopped it it also gave me system ui force closes constantly but a reboot fixed it
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I just wish Google would put in an option to scoot the buttons over to the left. I'm fine with the top bar, but I don't like the buttons in the middle.
Logically, the tablet UI made so much sense. I do miss being able to see important information like the clock and battery when an app or a game goes to full screen.

arrtoodeetoo said:
I just wish Google would put in an option to scoot the buttons over to the left. I'm fine with the top bar, but I don't like the buttons in the middle.
Logically, the tablet UI made so much sense. I do miss being able to see important information like the clock and battery when an app or a game goes to full screen.
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Yes exactly. Google should really change the default ui of tablets to tablet ui. Current ui is only suitable for phones.
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How do you get the fullscreen app to work? The option to enable will not let me click it at all.

momulah said:
How do you get the fullscreen app to work? The option to enable will not let me click it at all.
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You have to be rooted. Do you have root?
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This is a bit off-topic but when can we expect pa,aokp, and cm update to 4.3 since the source was already released I think
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Any know what to do then? I did mind tinkering if there is some system ui changes to do any help appreciated

Tablet ui code removed in stock
waringd said:
Any know what to do then? I did mind tinkering if there is some system ui changes to do any help appreciated
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Tablet ui code was removed by Google in version 4.2.2 as they wanted a single unified interface, in previous versions some devices on stock could be tricked into one mode or other by tweaking the build.prop values. Since 4.2.2 the code for the (old) tablet mode needs to be put back into the ROM (As in P.A for example) this means it's not a simple quick task, Once the 4.3 code has been merged with the 4.2.2 sources I am sure we will see all the ROM's on xda updated soon.

Tablet UI

Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Gadzooks1123 said:
Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Install the Paranoid Android ROM.
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How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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Gadzooks1123 said:
How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418867

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Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/

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The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/
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Except that that is simply not the case.
On phones the navigation buttons never leave the short side of the screen leaving them easily accessible with your right thumb while in landscape. On tablets the nav bar is terrible with the buttons spread out across the bottom while holding your device in landscape. The centred buttons are barely reachable on a 7" tablet like this. On 10" devices unless you are some kind of mutant, bred to be a piano virtuoso, good luck getting your thumbs where they need to go while cradling the tablet in 2 hands. Similarly the top-of-screen based notification pull down is simply not an ergonomic solution to something that you will be doing thousands of times with your device. Again this is not so bad on a device of this size, but is seriously ridiculous on large tablets.
It is all well and good for Google to say that they want users to have the same user experience across all devices, but they do not deliver on that. Given no other option, I would far rather use this tablet in full phone mode, with navigation buttons that never leave the short edge of the screen, than use the new "Tablet UI". I have actually clicked the DPI up to 340 and find the phone UI much easier to use than the default one, with the obvious exception of the full screen notification shade (which just looks ugly on this device). At least though, this configuration would be more condusive to one handed landscape navigation.
So, for me, I am going to keep using the old tablet UI as long as Google leaves the code in there for me to use and hope that they come to their senses one day over at the AOSP and realize that they've actually taken a step backwards in terms of user friendliness.
No need for nay-sayers to jump in when someone asks for a customized user experience. That's the beauty of Android! It isn't a one size fits all, apple-corer OS. The only limit is your imagination, and how much time you want to spend learning and tweaking. I say tweak on, young man, tweak on!

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The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
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Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/

The ipad has a tablet ui too and its really useful. Less pressing on the back button when navigating thru the settings ap
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csrow said:
Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/
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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.

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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.
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Agreed, it was a very inconsistent experience. Also, trying to get expandable notifications to work properly with gestures was a pain.

That's what's great about Android on a Nexus device. You get to choose what you like and everyone will be happy.
No one option is better than another. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else should not be using it.

The OP simply wanted to know if it was possible to use Table UI on the N7 v2 and everyone is on a full blown discussion of who prefers what.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45084692
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I recommend trying out LMT (better than the pie control in paranoid/CM). I find it much better than having this blasted button bar using space all the time)
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Apex launcher has a tablet ui setting. For the most part is seems stock just bring the app icons to the bottom in landscape mode along with the app drawer in the upper right corner.

TouchWiz 4.3 on a Tablet is a Screw Job

How do I know? I just played with the 4.4 skin at best buy on the Pro models. They seemed to have fixed nearly every design issue I had with 4.3 on my 2014. It really feels like a tablet skin instead of a phone skin. I'm glad Samsung fixed it but why do such a terrible job in the first place? Was my $600 not worth their time?
Incredibly excited for 4.4 update. It will be like getting a brand new device! I really hope they have some kind of option to remap the menu button to a task switching button. That would be the ultimate.

Two words:
Nova. Launcher.

I checked the pro series 4.4 skins in best buy too. Although the skin seems to be more tablet oriented, the TouchWiz lag still exists. The device was still not snappy enough

Agree... Nova launcher fixes everything. Buy it once and you'll have it on every device you own.

Just bought Nova With the $25 credit they gave me to the google play store. I've Used the free version for ages. Finally broke down and bought the pro.
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jherring002 said:
Just bought Nova With the $25 credit they gave me to the google play store. I've Used the free version for ages. Finally broke down and bought the pro.
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Haha you literally just inspired me to do the same. Had the 25.00 credit and then some from the Google survey app. In case anyone didn't know download the Google survey app and get free Google play credits. Totally worth it.

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Haha you literally just inspired me to do the same. Had the 25.00 credit and then some from the Google survey app. In case anyone didn't know download the Google survey app and get free Google play credits. Totally worth it.
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You're Welcome =)
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You're Welcome =)
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Haha ty!

Stocklone said:
How do I know? I just played with the 4.4 skin at best buy on the Pro models. They seemed to have fixed nearly every design issue I had with 4.3 on my 2014. It really feels like a tablet skin instead of a phone skin. I'm glad Samsung fixed it but why do such a terrible job in the first place? Was my $600 not worth their time?
Incredibly excited for 4.4 update. It will be like getting a brand new device! I really hope they have some kind of option to remap the menu button to a task switching button. That would be the ultimate.
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I played with a N12 at BB and came away with a different opinion. Most of the differences between it and the N10.1-14 were pretty minor and aesthetic. M-UX is of course new but did you look at the number and type of widgets available? Pretty sparse. What used to be My Magazine is now broken up so each category in what was the "News" section are now individual widgets. There's no Facebook for the Social widget either just like My Magazine. There's e-mail, calendar, and all the S Apps like Hub, Apps, WatchOn etc. There's Hancom widgets but we're probably not getting it (unless you side load it as explained in the apps section of the forum). Not much else. And at CES there were mini tiles shown that acted like shortcuts to a bunch of common/popular apps; gone. Unless Samsung's got big future plans for stocking M-UX with widgets and shortcuts I'd be fine without having a mandatory page of it on my home screen.
In terms of TW (now "classic") the settings menus and some others have been freshened and the notification panel drop down has been reformatted/resized so it's more appropriate for a tablet. There are more Pen Window apps and the way you launch multitasking's been revised to "swipe from the side" which now conflicts with other apps (EG: Astro) that also swipe from the side. You can now also cascade (overlay) Multi View windows which was a N10.1-12 feature that got left out of the N10.1-14 launch ROM.
What other major changes or differences did you notice that I missed?
As for Samsung's interpretation of 4.4 over 4.3 I've been using an "official" AT&T 4.4 ROM for about a month on my N3. The only functional changes are the location and wireless control panels have been re-worked so they are much clearer and easier to interpret and the lock screen has a "one app" option that's set to camera by default but can be changed to any app. It can also be set to "4.3 style" which I chose because there are more options including launching five apps from the lock screen. The notification bar icons are white (wow! ), there's a new slightly revised default system font, and there are some minor UI graphic changes. You have to look pretty hard to see the differences between 4.3 and 4.4 as designed by Samsung. The biggest difference I've seen is my battery life went up and the N3 which was already fluid on 4.3 became more so. Having played with M-UX and come away meh, performance improvements are what I'm looking forward to most in our update. That along with some of the cleaned up menus and new Multi View functionality.

I don't even know anymore what touchwiz looks like even though i have a samsung smartphone and the note 10.1 so many great launchers around.
I'm still looking forward to 4.4 because of the redesigned settings and notification. And hopefully bug fixes. And i think it would be the first time i actually have the most recent android version on one of my devices...

stm8 said:
Two words:
Nova. Launcher.
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I don't give a flying crap about the launcher. I use Action Launcher. I left Nova a long time ago. Don't miss it one bit.
The task switching actually being at the bottom instead of the middle of the screen and the notification drawer not being a phone one anymore plus it having multiple sliders instead of one giant huge slider show Samsung put a lot more thought into 4.4.
Those two things drove me nuts. Anytime I have to use a phone app on a tablet I die a little on the inside.
I also like the icons in 4.4 way better than 4.3.

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I played with a N12 at BB and came away with a different opinion. Most of the differences between it and the N10.1-14 were pretty minor and aesthetic. M-UX is of course new but did you look at the number and type of widgets available? Pretty sparse. What used to be My Magazine is now broken up so each category in what was the "News" section are now individual widgets. There's no Facebook for the Social widget either just like My Magazine. There's e-mail, calendar, and all the S Apps like Hub, Apps, WatchOn etc. There's Hancom widgets but we're probably not getting it (unless you side load it as explained in the apps section of the forum). Not much else. And at CES there were mini tiles shown that acted like shortcuts to a bunch of common/popular apps; gone. Unless Samsung's got big future plans for stocking M-UX with widgets and shortcuts I'd be fine without having a mandatory page of it on my home screen.
In terms of TW (now "classic") the settings menus and some others have been freshened and the notification panel drop down has been reformatted/resized so it's more appropriate for a tablet. There are more Pen Window apps and the way you launch multitasking's been revised to "swipe from the side" which now conflicts with other apps (EG: Astro) that also swipe from the side. You can now also cascade (overlay) Multi View windows which was a N10.1-12 feature that got left out of the N10.1-14 launch ROM.
What other major changes or differences did you notice that I missed?
As for Samsung's interpretation of 4.4 over 4.3 I've been using an "official" AT&T 4.4 ROM for about a month on my N3. The only functional changes are the location and wireless control panels have been re-worked so they are much clearer and easier to interpret and the lock screen has a "one app" option that's set to camera by default but can be changed to any app. It can also be set to "4.3 style" which I chose because there are more options including launching five apps from the lock screen. The notification bar icons are white (wow! ), there's a new slightly revised default system font, and there are some minor UI graphic changes. You have to look pretty hard to see the differences between 4.3 and 4.4 as designed by Samsung. The biggest difference I've seen is my battery life went up and the N3 which was already fluid on 4.3 became more so. Having played with M-UX and come away meh, performance improvements are what I'm looking forward to most in our update. That along with some of the cleaned up menus and new Multi View functionality.
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Didn't get a chance to play with the multi-tasking tab. So what side do you swipe from? Please tell me it's not the left where every single side menu is?
I hate nearly every Samsung app and use none of their widgets. I buy the Note for the S Pen which I use with non-Samsung apps. I'm just incredibly tired of using a 10.1" phone so hell yeah I'm excited about 4.4. It looks like your priorities are quite a bit different than mine so it makes sense your take away is different than mine.

Stocklone said:
Didn't get a chance to play with the multi-tasking tab. So what side do you swipe from? Please tell me it's not the left where every single side menu is?
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Here's how it works now. If it's like the current set up you can, when it's open, drag it from side-to-side if you want.
Here's the Tab|Pro 10.1 manual. I'd imagine everything in it will be similar to what we're getting. Jury's still out on how Samsung's going to deal with the "menu" vs. "tasks" capacitive button issue. A pic of the soon to be released VZW N10.1-14 still shows our menu button so it wouldn't appear Samsung's planning any physical changes for the N10.1-14 down the road. So we'll either have a capacitive button that says one thing and does another (menu=tasks) or the s/w for the N10.1-14 will be adjusted to still support the menu button. Even though Google's killed the menu button in 4.4 Samsung's revived it because it still works the exact same way on the N3 4.4 ROM.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...axy_Tab_PRO_KK_English_User_Manual_NAE_F2.pdf
I'm just incredibly tired of using a 10.1" phone so hell yeah I'm excited about 4.4.
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Google's the one to blame for the phone UI. The unified UI works fine on a 7-8" display that's primarily used in portrait mode but looks goofy on anything larger. Like this...
The Nexus 10's not a hell of a lot better than the N10.1-14. The only glaring blunder on Samsung's part was the full-screen notification panel but other than that there's not a big difference UI treatment wise between the Nexus 10 and N10.1-14.
It looks like your priorities are quite a bit different than mine so it makes sense your take away is different than mine.
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Kind of polar opposites. I use pretty much all the features (that work well) in TW and have most stock Google apps disabled in settings. We totally agree about S Pen being the purchase driver for a Note though.

I'm running Buzz launcher, it's good on battery life and smooth, apex is good as well, a new update will be coming out in a few months for 4.4 let's hope they give us the new pro features when it comes out. I would also like to go back to the virtual buttons like the last model, I keep hitting the back and menu button in portrait.
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Curtis_HTC said:
I'm running Buzz launcher, it's good on battery life and smooth, apex is good as well, a new update will be coming out in a few months for 4.4 let's hope they give us the new pro features when it comes out. I would also like to go back to the virtual buttons like the last model, I keep hitting the back and menu button in portrait.
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I keep hitting the back button in portrait too. But I doubt virtual buttons are coming to this tablet.
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Agree... Nova launcher fixes everything. Buy it once and you'll have it on every device you own.
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Have it on all my Android devices. Note 2014 rocks with it.

Nova + spen is king!! I have nova on everything I use. I have put slide from the side apps on before but I always forget that I have them. I bought the note 2014 for the spen and snote (I format a basic chart for personal training sessions to fill out) and when I get my 12.2 it will be that much better. I would prefer to have the old notification bar in the bottom corner though :/ I used to use that mod on my note 2 and I loved it!!!!
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what features are you using with nova prime over nova free? i have about $75 in google credits but just can't bring myself to spending the $4 or whatever it is for prime...it seems like the free version has everything i need...i don't use gestures or care to increase icon size or have folders in the app drawer...i'm curious to find out, thanks!

maximus96 said:
what features are you using with nova prime over nova free? i have about $75 in google credits but just can't bring myself to spending the $4 or whatever it is for prime...it seems like the free version has everything i need...i don't use gestures or care to increase icon size or have folders in the app drawer...i'm curious to find out, thanks!
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My favorite thing to with Nova+ is get rid of the app drawer shortcut and make the home button open up the app drawer. Not sure if that is a plus feature or not.