Stock rom gets ridiculously slow when having lots of apps installed - Xperia Play General

It seems that stock rom goes smooth for the first months after buying the phone or wiping, but as you get a handful of apps installed soon you'll get LOTS of lag, especially on UIs, even when overclocked at 2 GHz on performance governor. Currently got 60 mbs left on internal memory and usually got 100 mbs of 'free' memory on average (cached memory fills it almost fully). Anyone?
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Use Link2SD to free up internal storage. Also, stop unnecessary services from starting on boot with Autostarts. Voila

jacklebott said:
Use Link2SD to free up internal storage. Also, stop unnecessary services from starting on boot with Autostarts. Voila
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Tried that, and that. Even supercharged it. The problem is that the UIs often drop below, say 20 fps, like it's struggling to do something. For example, the Go Launcher's app drawer almost literally struggles when sliding your finger, and when taking a photo it may take up to 20 seconds to load it up, even when the microsd card I use is a class ten and I've made the sdcard cache speed tweak thingy. It only runs smooth when I don't have many apps installed, currently 9 4x4 pages of apps (about 136 apps)
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Maybe it's just your phone. Mine's running just fine, and I've installed plenty of apps.
Also, I highly advise against running at 2GHz

jacklebott said:
Maybe it's just your phone. Mine's running just fine, and I've installed plenty of apps.
Also, I highly advise against running at 2GHz
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I guess I'm going to wipe and enjoy smoothness for another few months. If it is just my phone, I would burst into rage.
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My phone does the same thing, and I always thought it might have been an issue with the 2.3.3 .ftf I was using
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Same here.
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DanielEGVi said:
It seems that stock rom goes smooth for the first months after buying the phone or wiping, but as you get a handful of apps installed soon you'll get LOTS of lag, especially on UIs, even when overclocked at 2 GHz on performance governor. Currently got 60 mbs left on internal memory and usually got 100 mbs of 'free' memory on average (cached memory fills it almost fully). Anyone?
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Really? I'm on stock with 280 apps and an alt UI with no tweaks and it seems my entire YouTube channel thinks my Xperia Play's on drugs for being so smooth.

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Recent issues with low RAM

Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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drock212 said:
Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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Is 350MB low? Does it affect the phone's performance at all?
C'mon! If the device works well, it doesn't matter if you have 350MB or 800MB free. By the way, 350MB is way too much RAM. I have a Milestone and I usually get 35 to 45MB out of 256MB after reboot. The phone works like a charm.
So, why should you bother for this insignificance?
android is not windows 98
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/65483-task-killers-answer-google-developers.html
why you want more free ram ?
drock212 said:
Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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Seeing thus aswell. If your phone is rooted freeze all the crappy moto things that you don't use. And that should help a little bit.
I updated so I cannot freeze any apps at the moment. But I uninstall all the apps that constantly reset/start, this makes more ram and better battery. Also my zg ran super fast with only 10-20 ram and it works flawless.

Reported Memory and Memory Leak

I am currently running EH06, stock/deodexed and am experiencing seemingly random reboots. I was curious to see if this issue is memory leak related, and from general RAM checking, I believe it may be. Of my available 342 MB of ram, RIGHT NOW my phone reports 241 MB taken up, I have seen that value getting up into the low 300's at it's peak, and unfortunately I haven't seen it immediately preceding a reboot.
I decided to check the memory usage from the command line, and when I run 'free' via the bash shell, of the 350400 KB (342MB) of potential RAM - which matches nicely with what the phone is reporting - I am being told I in fact have 321 MB of RAM taken up. Now I'm no Linux/Android guru, but that doesn't seem right.
So I opened up a bunch of apps, visited a couple of websites, backed out to the home screen and rechecked my numbers. I am now at 302MB/342MB according to the task manager app, but 338MB/342MB according to 'free'. Using the 'Clear Ram' button, I was able to knock it back down, but I have seen it in the past few days not drop the used RAM amount upon pressing that button...
I'm experincing similar problems , it seems every day I need to do a reeboot to keep my ram usage down cause when I first boot , let everything load ... then kill tasks I have around 180 free but after about a day when I kill tasks I have around 80 free and I need to reboot for peace of mind I don't know what it is but I hope I get fixed ....
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have u tried the v6 superscripts
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I get random reboots when my phone is just sitting idle doing nothing. I've so had them when running Apps and going from screen to screen. They are just random.
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shaunfrazier said:
have u tried the v6 superscripts
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Try v6: option 6. World of difference!
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SwimDrewid said:
Try v6: option 6. World of difference!
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In what section are these scripts if I may ask?
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SpartanVissepo said:
In what section are these scripts if I may ask?
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They are found here. Version 9 is the latest for V6. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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JohnCorleone said:
They are found here. Version 9 is the latest for V6. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thank u very much sir. Will post later when I try
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SpartanVissepo said:
Thank u very much sir. Will post later when I try
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Take you time and make sure you get the newest one. He has that script, the 3G TurboCharger, and KickAssKernel scripts all in that thread along with updates...
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Any recommendations on which scripts to run
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Take you time and make sure you get the newest one. He has that script, the 3G TurboCharger, and KickAssKernel scripts all in that thread along with updates...
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Which kickasskernel script do you use?
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AproSamurai said:
Which kickasskernel script do you use?
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People have had mixed results with the 3G Turbocharger script and KickAssKernel scripts. The V6 script is the one many are reporting helps with the RAM leak. I used oprion #9 MegaRAM2. This is the lastest script. You need to get Script Manager from Market. Select "run as root" then "run". http://db.tt/oUYakOc
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MikeyLee said:
I get random reboots when my phone is just sitting idle doing nothing. I've so had them when running Apps and going from screen to screen. They are just random.
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In the world of software, there is NO random, everything has a cause. We call things random when we haven't defined the problem's pattern.
So check it out , I instaled the new eh06 plus kernel without really getting an answer as to what a kernel was and it seems to have helped I haven't been on it for 24 hours yet but I will update and let you know
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The paid "Full" version of Memory Booster allows to to set (raise) the minimum RAM threshold supposedly. I just got it and will see if I change it and install and run a bunch of apps if it prevents the reboots. Huh, I got the "Full" version but the minimum RAM threshold is set in the MB RAM Optimizer app. I will change it from 15% to 35% and see if it stops reboots tonight.
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gremlyn1 said:
In the world of software, there is NO random, everything has a cause. We call things random when we haven't defined the problem's pattern.
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I've been getting these "random" reboots with all of the GB leaks. Been looking at my logcat but I can't make heads or tails out of what the messages mean. Currently using catlog for the logcat reader, never seen anything under the lowest level "what a terrible failure" but get tons of stuff under the next level up "error".
currently running eg22.
Would love a thread detailing how to do anything with this that might help figure out what's causing these issues.
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The paid "Full" version of Memory Booster allows to to set (raise) the minimum RAM threshold supposedly. I just got it and will see if I change it and install and run a bunch of apps if it prevents the reboots. Huh, I got the "Full" version but the minimum RAM threshold is set in the MB RAM Optimizer app. I will change it from 15% to 35% and see if it stops reboots tonight.
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Great John, let us know. The free version is great for seeing what is REALLY using your memory. Not the little bit the stock task manager kills. Apps are constantly loading in the background even if you haven't used them in months. If you go to Task Killer in Memory Booster Lite you will see this "ninja" apps stealing your memory. This is what people keep calling memory leaks. They are real apps loading.
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Try v6: option 6. World of difference!
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I've been on the oxed stock EH06 for a week or two now, was getting a reboot or two every day. I've been running V6 option 9 for the past three days, and I have yet to have a random reboot since.
Still evaluating the effects on battery life, though
roguejam said:
I've been on the oxed stock EH06 for a week or two now, was getting a reboot or two every day. I've been running V6 option 9 for the past three days, and I have yet to have a random reboot since.
Still evaluating the effects on battery life, though
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ive been running stock odex eh06 since it first leaked on samfirmware and i never had a random reboot
but i am seeing memory problems. such as maps running using a whole 6MB of ram. Think, 10 years ago, that wouldve took a supercomputer. Why are these apps running even when i dont launch them?
such as engadget, maps, telenav, THREE DIALERS TAKING UP 11MB EACH WTF I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY ONE DIALER. anyways yeah i usually have ~100mb free but still. when i CLOSE an app, it should CLOSE. I also shouldnt see the app UNLESS I LAUNCH IT.
will v6 stop this? im scared of borking something thats why i ask...i cant afford to use the "trial and error" method like i used to :/
A_Flying_Fox said:
ive been running stock odex eh06 since it first leaked on samfirmware and i never had a random reboot
but i am seeing memory problems. such as maps running using a whole 6MB of ram. Think, 10 years ago, that wouldve took a supercomputer. Why are these apps running even when i dont launch them?
such as engadget, maps, telenav, THREE DIALERS TAKING UP 11MB EACH WTF I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY ONE DIALER. anyways yeah i usually have ~100mb free but still. when i CLOSE an app, it should CLOSE. I also shouldnt see the app UNLESS I LAUNCH IT.
will v6 stop this? im scared of borking something thats why i ask...i cant afford to use the "trial and error" method like i used to :/
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The v6 supercharger has never messed anything up for me give it a shot there's always an "unsupercharge" option to revert everything back!
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International GS III (GT-I9300) not so powerfull we could think?[disappointed on RAM]

So guys after a lot of days testing and after i have installed some Apps and using heavy multitasking i must say this GS III has limits on heavy usage.
The reason is the limit of RAM.. yes 1 GB still is not good as we could think..if you are going to install big apps and big games.
I have found this using the web browser with some flashplayer videos without using full screen just the window.. after few minutes the video has stopped playing just listen to the audio..and the gsIII start becoming hot ..sometimes it even crashed and came back to homescreen realoading widget and so on...and i'm not using TouchWiz Natur UX (heavy launcher on usage of RAM) but the lighter and faster Nova Launcher.. i will post some screens and info to warn of this problem i found on GS III
Those are apps installed
http://db.tt/wrR9sd0d
http://db.tt/6L8Zjyeo
http://db.tt/k2kHAjir
http://db.tt/HNuRt2bO
http://db.tt/5BPRbDLT
Active APPS and APP SD storage
http://db.tt/eTLUiCWQ
http://db.tt/wTCoE3Um
http://db.tt/qsua6mNp
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Wait, you mentioned installed big games or apps posing a problem for 1gig o ram but then you switch topics to flash videos in the browser? Are these heavy apps running in the background as well at the same time?
georaldc said:
Wait, you mentioned installed big games or apps posing a problem for 1gig o ram but then you switch topics to flash videos in the browser? Are these heavy apps running in the background as well at the same time?
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I posted screens and info
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Same experience here. Flash vids freezing, black screen, briwsing quiting to home screen, music player quiting in background, longerwebpages not loading fully and the dreaded homescreen restarts. The experience comes up short compared to last years sgs2 and note on gingerbread.
It sounds more like Flash player is the problem or possibly the browser. Try another browser.
Well that doesn't sound promising. Seems like the phone works wonderful at first, but degrades quickly
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It sounds more like Flash player is the problem or possibly the browser. Try another browser.
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Not flashplayer but the RAM
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I've seen others post they're getting out of memory probs. Good thing our us ver will have 2 gigs sounds like it will be needed.
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You guys just figure this out now? No offence intended but only 1GB of ram was obvious to me that this issue was going to occur. Of the 1GB 1/3 is taken for the system and an almost another 1/3 by the video card your then left with barley over a 3rd for yourself. Come June 20th ill be very happy to get the 2GB NA model. Like I said no offence but I saw this coming.
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My gnex has 1gb ram its more then enough.
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ciscostud said:
My gnex has 1gb ram its more then enough.
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Make screens like i did before to see if you are in the same conditions or not... Apps and active apps+sd app storage
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ale0crysis said:
Not flashplayer but the RAM
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Mate, no offence, i'm not expert with android or any other developer stuffs but i will certainly disagree about pointing out the RAM to be the problem.
I have both SGS2 and SGS3 and as of the moment i can confidently say that when it comes to multi-tasking, my SGS2 performs better than the latter. How did i come up to it?
-->In my SGS2, I can simultaneously run my GPS on, run Sygic Navigation, play music using Poweamp, while watching Avatar HD(2GB) using the Stick it Pop up video player by MBFG, and then leave all running in background and even watch video using the Floating browser without having any problem, not to mention the live wallpaper i'm using and all the widgets running as well. And take note, both SGS2 and SGS3 have the same amount of RAM.
Right now, I'm also quite disappointed with my S3 as it locks up every now and then with just a simple usage.
My theory or say, just a guess is that, it is related with the Kernel or worst, the ROM itself. Let's just wait for the hard-working devs here to find a workaround for this matter.
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Mate, no offence, i'm not expert with android or any other developer stuffs but i will certainly disagree about pointing out the RAM to be the problem.
I have both SGS2 and SGS3 and as of the moment i can confidently say that when it comes to multi-tasking, my SGS2 performs better than the latter. How did i come up to it?
-->In my SGS2, I can simultaneously run my GPS on, run Sygic Navigation, play music using Poweamp, while watching Avatar HD(2GB) using the Stick it Pop up video player by MBFG, and then leave all running in background and even watch video using the Floating browser without having any problem, not to mention the live wallpaper i'm using and all the widgets running as well. And take note, both SGS2 and SGS3 have the same amount of RAM.
Right now, I'm also quite disappointed with my S3 as it locks up every now and then with just a simple usage.
My theory or say, just a guess is that, it is related with the Kernel or worst, the ROM itself. Let's just wait for the hard-working devs here to find a workaround for this matter.
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I think most android devices now a days have the first adopters as true beta testers. Even the mighty iphone had its share of problems.
I'm sure an update will be on the horizon.
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Your only making a fuss about it because the variant had 2gigs of ram. ICS handles all your process and kills task automatically.
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My gnex has 1gb ram its more then enough.
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Right, but how much does your gnex stock google OS use vs the GS3? You probably have a ton more free ram out of the box than the GS3 does...i guess we know why they put 2 gigs into the new (north america/japan) ones...
Also, does using a different launcher get rid of all that memory? I would think twiz is still running somewhere, just not the launcher itself, so it's still eating up ram... so once you flash a CM/AOKP, they should have this figured out...
I personally don't play much beyond angry birds / words w friends and that type of stuff, so I don't see this being an issue for me, esp with 2 gigs, but I feel your frustration, that would piss me off, spending that kinda money and having those issues.
Well US version was not even an option for many of us in USA. I wanted unlimited data and that's possible on international version only. And I have no issues with ram. Everything works perfectly smoothly for me.
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Right, but how much does your gnex stock google OS use vs the GS3? You probably have a ton more free ram out of the box than the GS3 does...i guess we know why they put 2 gigs into the new (north america/japan) ones...
Also, does using a different launcher get rid of all that memory? I would think twiz is still running somewhere, just not the launcher itself, so it's still eating up ram... so once you flash a CM/AOKP, they should have this figured out...
I personally don't play much beyond angry birds / words w friends and that type of stuff, so I don't see this being an issue for me, esp with 2 gigs, but I feel your frustration, that would piss me off, spending that kinda money and having those issues.
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The gnex is using a different soc so it's not going to be the same as the SGS3.
Honestly, we are early adopters and I'm sure Samsung is having most of us be to real beta testers so they can report bugs and fix them.
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The gnex is using a different soc so it's not going to be the same as the SGS3.
Honestly, we are early adopters and I'm sure Samsung is having most of us be to real beta testers so they can report bugs and fix them.
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Right, I'm sure it'll get worked out, might take a bit of time, but should be worth it in the end
accordex said:
Right, I'm sure it'll get worked out, might take a bit of time, but should be worth it in the end
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Deleted oops wrong thread.
The only reason Samsung added 2gigs of ram was to separate the competition also using the same dual-cores(one-x) . This also is used for marketing and final purchasing decisions for noobs.
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[Q] Any ROM that optimizes ram usage yet?

I have been looking at the few available ROMs but figured I'd ask those who have already flashed them.
The N10 sits at 1gb of usage after a fresh boot leavjng 400-500gb free for everything else. This is normally more than enough...but I like to hook it up to my TV and play games with six axis. This automatically shoots the usage up to 1.3-1.4gb of memory, sometimes leaving me with 50mb free...causing crashes.
Just curious if any app has lowered the ram usage on startup? I disabled everything I could and only use one home screen and minimal widgets so ive done all I can :-/.
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Using this right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998585
Overclocked to 2ghz and with a few tweaks I have about 900-1000mb free
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Is this normal RAM usage?

Hello,
I just got my T-Mobile G2 a couple of days ago. I don't have a lot of experience yet but I'm curious if this is the normal RAM usage vs availability. If so do you have any problems running high end games, apps, etc? I am presently on 4.4.2. I have used Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of system apps. This just seems like it could be an issue. I also use Greenify to hibernate some apps as well. Any thoughts on this?
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I would love to get an expert answer on this. I recently changed it PAC Man Rom and now it appears I have even less available memory. I'm not noticing any lag or anything but it just bugs me. I added up everything cached and running and it totalled like 364mb not even half a gig of ram. This phone has 2GB of ram. So I dunno just seems weird to me. I guess as long as it's not all laggy then that's what matters.
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Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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What good is the RAM if you don't use it?
XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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I guess my confusion is what happens if I've got 400 mb of ram and I go to play GTA San Andreas... Lol. Will it pull it off? Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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Yeah, the more RAM used the better. I'm using PA3.99RC2 with a kernel (I forget where I got it; just says d800 custom 5 cm) that doesn't use enough RAM. I always have 700-800MB free. I don't know what sysctl changes I can make to increase RAM use. I hope my phone isn't using a swap on its slow mobile phone NAND .
You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.
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You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.
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I have Greenify. But nevertheless I played Riptide GP2 earlier with full graphics. Smooth as butter. Good enough for me. :thumbup:
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