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New Nexus 7 root & system update

Hello,
I just bought a Nexus 7 for my girlfriend, and followed directions to unlock bootloader/root it and it was very easy to do (thanks Devs!).
My question is, it keeps prompting to do a system update. If I run the system update, will it retain root? If not can I re-root after the update?
I shot myself in the foot with my Sony Tablet S after applying the ICS update and lost root and there is no work around at the moment. I dont want the same thing to happen to the Nexus 7 so asking if anyone as ran into this yet.
Thanks in advance

mikeblahblah said:
Hello,
I just bought a Nexus 7 for my girlfriend, and followed directions to unlock bootloader/root it and it was very easy to do (thanks Devs!).
My question is, it keeps prompting to do a system update. If I run the system update, will it retain root? If not can I re-root after the update?
I shot myself in the foot with my Sony Tablet S after applying the ICS update and lost root and there is no work around at the moment. I dont want the same thing to happen to the Nexus 7 so asking if anyone as ran into this yet.
Thanks in advance
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You will lose root with an ota, but you can re root easily again

You still can re-root mate.
Tapatalked from my HOX

install vodoo rootkit.

Rock on, thanks all!!
swisstourist said:
install vodoo rootkit.
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Nexus 7 rooting is EZMODE!!! Thanks to the badass toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195

Nexus 7 rooted and unlocked but wants OTA updates

Hi all,
im new to this game so please be kind. i have a nexus 7,rooted it and unlocked it,main reason for that was so that i could install stuff from blackmarket alpha that a friend showed me. just heard of the 4.1.2 update and as of yet havent recieved the prompt for OTA. will i still recieve it or will i have to do it manually because i have no clue how to do that and am worried of loosing my root and/or data.
i used this method to root and unlock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5vawUTJrg&feature=g-hist
i live in australia if that makes any difference
thanks in advance

Ask in the toolkit thread, and don't ask questions in the General section next time.
Beamed from my Grouper.

well where is this toolkit thread?
can you please post a link

RootKeeper App
ice_cold17 said:
Hi all,
im new to this game so please be kind. i have a nexus 7,rooted it and unlocked it,main reason for that was so that i could install stuff from blackmarket alpha that a friend showed me. just heard of the 4.1.2 update and as of yet havent recieved the prompt for OTA. will i still recieve it or will i have to do it manually because i have no clue how to do that and am worried of loosing my root and/or data.
i used this method to root and unlock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5vawUTJrg&feature=g-hist
i live in australia if that makes any difference
thanks in advance
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I just got it OTA. When you get OTA updates, you lose root. To restore root, use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper from the play store. It worked for me

Saturny said:
I just got it OTA. When you get OTA updates, you lose root. To restore root, use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper from the play store. It worked for me
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ok so you are rooted and unlocked and you recieved the update by OTA without having to install it manually or anything? im still waiting for it,it hasnt come through yet

ice_cold17 said:
well where is this toolkit thread?
can you please post a link
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Google.

Mach3.2 said:
Google.
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Such an arse.
here you go mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929424
Follow it carefully, ya can't go wrong. I used this method, I kept root and have had NO ISSUES what so ever,

awesome thats great,i think i might try that, does this mean i will have to do this everytime there is a new update out?

Wilks3y said:
Such an arse.
here you go mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929424
Follow it carefully, ya can't go wrong. I used this method, I kept root and have had NO ISSUES what so ever,
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Does it take an arm and limb for OP to use a search engine or the search function in this forum?
Beamed from my Grouper.

I've just got OTA too, last night .. to 4.1.2 .. (and yes, my tablet is rooted, and bootloader opened, but with Stock Rom)
.. but after installing the OTA, nothing happened, still 4.1.1 .. and still have root, didn't lose it .. basicly the tablet tried to update, but it wasn't successfully .. any idea? .. do i have to unroot before OTA update? .. and, when i try to search for update in "Settings - About Tablet" it saying "Up to Date.. ." .. strange :/
p.s. sorry for my weak English

Did you modify the build.prop or install a custom recovery?

On the Asus TF201, once you unlock the bootloader, installing an OTA update would brick the tablet.
I'm wondering: why it is okay to receive OTA updates on a rooted Nexus 7 with an unlocked bootloader when doing this on the Asus TF201 would brick it?
Right now, my Nexus 7 is running the latest OTA 4.2. It's rooted and unlocked. I want to make sure that when I try to install the next OTA update, I won't brick my Nexus 7.

How did you update your nexus 7, mine failed for both 4.1.2 and 4.2, I'm stocked in 4.1.1. I got the updates OTA on the n7 but when it restarted and try to update it failed.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

When I received my update, I was rooted with a locked bootloader. I received a notification that an update was ready to install, and I installed the OTA update. I forgot to use the rootkeeper app, so I lost root. I used Wug's tool to unlock the bootloader and re-root. Wug's toolkit didn't have an option to re-lock the bootloader like a previous toolkit that I had used, so I'm left wondering about the significance of leaving the bootloader unlocked with respect to being able to receive OTA updates. I don't have a desire to flash a custom recovery or custom ROMs on my Nexus 7. I do that on my Galaxy Nexus and Asus TF201, but I just like receiving the stock OTA updates quickly and easily on my Nexus 7.
mraibb said:
How did you update your nexus 7, mine failed for both 4.1.2 and 4.2, I'm stocked in 4.1.1. I got the updates OTA on the n7 but when it restarted and try to update it failed.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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the implications of ROOT

hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!

Caniv said:
hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!
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If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev

ctowne said:
If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev
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alright cool i don't mind paying 5USD...
but what about the most important things?
does rooting 100% erase evetyhing?
Do i keep getting updates to my phone? or when a new version comes out i have to re-root or something?

It will erase EVERYTHING and you would have to go back to stock to get the OTA or wait for a build to be flashable
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

If the ROM got OTA (over the air) you can update i guess, not really populair with OTA, but you can download 4.2.2 stock ROM or custom ROM when it comes out.
Sent From My Rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 JB 4.1.2 (GT-I9100)

Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

El Daddy said:
Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!

Caniv said:
might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!
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If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

El Daddy said:
If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)

Caniv said:
ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)
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Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.

efrant said:
Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.
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i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion

Caniv said:
i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion
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Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.

efrant said:
Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.
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I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..

Caniv said:
I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..
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The easiest way is to wait for the OTA notification to appear on your device. Then just accept it, and then root again.
I've written up something for the Galaxy Nexus (sticky in the GNex General section), but nothing yet for the N4. The basic premise (and most of the commands) are the same. You can browse through it for some background info.

[Q] Best way to root..?

Hi guys!
I have just bought a Nexus7 32gb WiFi.
Which is the best way to root my device?
I don't want to try custom roms yet.
Just to have the stock firmware but rooted.
Should i prefer to use a toolkit with all the steps of unlock bootloader / root etc,
or maybe something else (ex.CF-Auto-Root etc)..?
Thanks in advance!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
Used that the first day I had it. Couldn't ask for easier rooting. Start with 1 and work your way down to what you need.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for the reply.
And now the noob question..
If i'll unlock & root the device, it might cause problems to accept ota updates..?
After ota update, i suppose that needs root again..?

It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.

ynrozturk said:
It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
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That's what i meant..
ynrozturk said:
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.
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So, after rooting, what's the way to get the updated firmwares?

Use OTA RootKeeper (http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en)
... it will backup your root (SU binary) and with it you can temporarily unroot - get the OTA update, and restore root again.
Rgrds,
Ged.

I don't want to offend MSkip at all, but I tried both toolkits and MSkip's is just not as friendly as Wug's.
Wug's toolkit is the simplest and easiest way of rooting I have ever experienced. Its that good, my nan could root the bloody thing, and she can't even use a touch device.
Like I said, no offence MSkip but Wug, your my winner.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/

Agreed, Wug's toolkit is supreme.

I've only used Wug's so I can't comment on any others, but I can agree that yes, Wug's toolkit is supreme.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Can I update my android version after root?

Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim

D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)

you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.

leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper

Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.

And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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