Hello guys !
I will receive my new tablet Nexus 7 in the following days. I don't have any knowledge on Android (I've an iPhone 4 jailbreaked + many tweaks etc ...) so that's totally new for me, and i need some help.
I'll use that tablet for studing, gaming , surfing etc ...
The fact is that i want to have totally access to my tablet (like iFile on iPhone) , the SSH, install tweaks , some cracked apps , install themes and have a really fast tablet (where i can oc if in need).
I probably think that i'll root it , but i don't know the differences and the benefits between the root, unlock , ,and all these ROMs/kernels etc... (i'm french so i don't understand all on these operation, and i don't want to brick my tablet =/ )
So i'd like to know what do you recommend to me ? Do i just need to root the tablet and that's all ? To unlock ? Or try to install another rom to respond better to my demand ?
Also , do any update will erase my "root" as the same as the iPhone jailbreak ?
Thank you very much
Don't do anything for the first week or so except read XDA.
This is not Apple, you can already install an SSH client (e.g. ConnectBot) many useful apps, even apps that are not from the Google Play store (if you allow "Unknown Sources") and the N7 is fast enough that you don't need to overclock it.
So just enjoy and learn.
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Dont ask for cracked apps (sounds illegal)
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maxime4611 said:
Hello guys !
I will receive my new tablet Nexus 7 in the following days. I don't have any knowledge on Android (I've an iPhone 4 jailbreaked + many tweaks etc ...) so that's totally new for me, and i need some help.
I'll use that tablet for studing, gaming , surfing etc ...
The fact is that i want to have totally access to my tablet (like iFile on iPhone) , the SSH, install tweaks , some cracked apps , install themes and have a really fast tablet (where i can oc if in need).
I probably think that i'll root it , but i don't know the differences and the benefits between the root, unlock , ,and all these ROMs/kernels etc... (i'm french so i don't understand all on these operation, and i don't want to brick my tablet =/ )
So i'd like to know what do you recommend to me ? Do i just need to root the tablet and that's all ? To unlock ? Or try to install another rom to respond better to my demand ?
Also , do any update will erase my "root" as the same as the iPhone jailbreak ?
Thank you very much
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I recommend you pay for your apps and support the developers. And unlike iOS devices, you don't need to root to do any of that. (Freedom!)
like what the others said, take your time, get used to Android. once you do, and feel that it lacks in some areas that root can solve easily (e.g. plugging in a USB thumb drive to expand the tiny 8 GB storage), then go ahead and root it!
Get used to android first. Get could comfortable with it. Then do lots of reading. And after you learn how to root and unlock the bootloader then watch some videos on YouTube. DroidModderX is a good source I think. After that you should root and unlock it
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Thank's all for your reply !!
The fact is that i don't want to waste my time on installing, formating , reinstalling lots of things. I've take the time to read, and seen many tweaks and good applications that i'll can't use if my tablet is not rooted, so i wondered what was the best option for me. I like to change the OS and find usefuls things that the stock OS can't do. Ex: There's no Micro/SD port card ,so i will probably need to root the tablet and buy a cable!
So i think that i'll just root my tablet with the nexus root toolkit just to see if it works good and if i don't need anything else.
And maybe later i'll try to install another rom. I don't know what kind of benefits i could draw from it , but i'll try
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hi,i can pick one of these phones up for £260 white version is that a good deal ? if so are these phones any good ? & i read that u can unlock them with free app on android market but does it need to be rooted ??
Yes, yes and yes.
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thanks,i think the phone is on 02 & im vodafone & i dont fancy going down the road of rooting just yet,so u think the unlock app on android market should help me out without rooting ?
Rooting is so easy on this phone. Looks like a great price as well
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hi,ive been an apple fan for years ive had all the iphones,but ive got a experia play at the moment & fancy a change,always done jailbreak on my iphones & i take it rooting is similar method on android phones,is it worth rooting & what exactly will i benefit from doing it ?still looking for a positive answer for the unlock cause i need my voda sim to work in this phone ?
It's definitely worth it, because:
- You're be able to use more great apps like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer or Droidwall, AdFree etc.
- More customization abilities in themes and menues
- Many developers did a great job on fixing some issues like gtalk, battery life improvement, added call record features, no ascending ringtone, speed improvements etc.
It takes some time to get used to it, but it is definitely a great experience for sure. Take a look at the custom roms topics in the original android development or android development sections.
for me coming from an iphone and an ipad , i couldnt care less about rooting as i had alot more freedom than what i was used to even after jailbreak
But after a couple of weeks decided to root my device for 2 reasons , 1st was Samsung Kies cant imagine my self ever having to use it again what an awfull software , the second was Chain3d and the ability to play tegra games
I'd like to hear what the other users have to say , may be even help me explore more into the world of rooting
Chain fire , CWM , Ad Blocker , Root access and also that i can flash CM9 (ICS) as soon as it is available
I haven't rooted it yet. Waiting for ICS. Chainfire 3D sounds tempting, but I already have PS2, PS3 and PSP, so not much time for mobile gaming.
SetCPU and App Quarantine
My rebel spirit.
Titanium Backup and need for IPsec VPN.
roms and the fun of it
ICS when it comes too....the port is looking really good once they get over that speed bump with audio
ROM Flashing Disorder . there i said it
Mezoxin said:
the second was Chain3d and the ability to play tegra games
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How can you play tegra games on sgs2 please explain..
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I held off for a good few months... but then I fancied playing with a vanilla AOSP ROM. Now I've flashed about 12 kernels and countless ROMs.. Always come back to stock though, keep root for titanium.
mainly because it was so easy to do but the ability to use set cpu and custom roms makes it more fun too.
Still not got round to rooting my desire hd as it seems a lot of messing about
Tweaked kernels and rom customization, like removing unneeded system apps.
The fact that i bought it.
I rooted mainly to do the following:
Remove bloatware plus apps I don't use with TBackup
Customise the interface plus tweak CPU And services for extra battery.
A few decent apps require root access to function and because I like playing with the latest roms, titanium backup is something I just couldn't do without
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I'm some one who always want's to dig deep, dive into the system, bring it completely under my control and then do things the maker of the device didn't intend me be doing
Long story short, like do all that's possible and a bit more, tinker with the system.
To delete the damn Samsung bloatware!
A whole new world of possibilities are exposed when you root your SGSII, i rooted mine within hours of getting it and then flashed a custom ROM.
People who don't root their phone are basically missing out.
Errrrr why wouldn't you root the sgs 2. For starters I changed the dpi as 240 is childlike imho. And yes, I can't help but flash
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Well I rooted it and the first thing I did was unlock it. But, as with any Android device, you have to root (I feel). I'm on a miui build atm and just love how customizable the 'themes' are on it. I don't even use many root programs, just Twitter Facebook and a browser mainly, but its nice knowing I have root if I ever need it. An of course when a stable build of ICS comes out I'm going to try that.
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For using Mobile Odin pro to flash ROM with out increasing counter, Titanium Backup pro for all the goodies it offers, CWM, and for the freedom that I get after rooting!
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Used an ipod touch 4 (my first mobile device) for 2 years and loved ios jailbreaking... heard a lot about android's openness for customization (especially after rooting) and finally got a Nexus 5. This is the first time I have owned an Android device and have had it for a month. Have rooted the phone and installed various apps like XPosed framework...
What I need help with is deciding whether to install a custom rom and kernel...for rom the best option is cyanogenmod (according to me)(atleast from what i found in this short 1 month) and I cant seem to find a feature in this rom that xposed especially with modules like gravity box dosent offer... if there are some features that make cyanogenmod awesome please tell me.
Me personally and from what I have read all Nexus 5 owners have reported battery issues and I came to know that Android community is passionate to make custom kernels to take matters into its own hands to improve battery and performance.... but this is something I hardly know about since accessing the kernel is a dream in ios and i am new to Android... plus various forums say that kernels can even fry your hardware if u make mistakes and no one wants that.
So ultimately the main thing i need help in is deciding which rom to install (mainly cyanogenmod), and if I even need to install it. Second which kernel to install and is it worth it, performance is already enough with the stock kernel and battery life is the main concern and some added features like double tap to wake are always welcome.
After finding out these things then I want to get down to small things, please help me since I am an inexperienced Android user.... and i dont want to harm the device since companies are not keen to fix or replace device in my country India.
Finally if I broke any forum rules in this post please tell me in a post.... please dont deactivate this forum just tell me and I will fix it (again I am new to XDA).
I cant code but we can make a list of best apps to install on a Nexus 5 to make it a perfect device (root).
So My question is as simple as that:
Why you rooted your phone ?
I`m an Linux administrator so I know what root account mean back in the days i rooted my phone because my android version was 2.1 and it wasn`t the most supported android version so I needed root in order to change the rom to 2.3 however I find CM really ugly and I know Samsung software is not the best possible but for me it works great.
So why you rooted your phone ? Is there a special reason why you want to skip OTA updates, To wait on Custom Rom developers to finally make your camera work as on the stock rom and your 3G to actually work ? Is CM rom really worth all the efforts in order to root your device ?
So why you rooted your phone ?
bnight said:
So My question is as simple as that:
Why you rooted your phone ?
I`m an Linux administrator so I know what root account mean back in the days i rooted my phone because my android version was 2.1 and it wasn`t the most supported android version so I needed root in order to change the rom to 2.3 however I find CM really ugly and I know Samsung software is not the best possible but for me it works great.
So why you rooted your phone ? Is there a special reason why you want to skip OTA updates, To wait on Custom Rom developers to finally make your camera work as on the stock rom and your 3G to actually work ? Is CM rom really worth all the efforts in order to root your device ?
So why you rooted your phone ?
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1. To be freedom
2. To remove all craps that we don't want and have a complete backup/restore solution
3. To tweak the phone, make it work faster and smoother
4. Add more features that is only done by rooting devices such as Adblocks (both web & apps), underclock...
4. To use CM/AOSP sources that have much longer support than Samsung (Think about 18 months later, Will SamSung still support your devices like Apple or Microsoft?)
bnight said:
So My question is as simple as that:
So why you rooted your phone ?
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Simple answer is I want to control my phone, I don't want it to be controlled by my service provide.
I get my S5 in two weeks and it will be rooted, the o2 rom replace with a generic BTU rom (not bothered about knox), all previous phones I have had have been rooted, current S3, previous S2 and xperia X10.
There is more freedom, ability to customise it your way, replace ugly stock theme with your own theme, unlock features that are locked by Samsung or the service provider, removing unnecessary bloat ware.
Added functionality in root apps such as Titanium Backup, Root Explorer and improve battery life.
Root gives you freedom to do as you like with your device.
I use root for the following: ad blocking, removing camera sounds, Titanium backup, EFS backup (in some rare cases even with stock updates EFS problems arose), move apps to external SD card, mod some UI stuff (like the S Find/Quick Connect bar) and some less important stuff. So, that is a pretty extensive list if you ask me
greenify ..
Ad blocker. And most of the time u can run a newer version of android then what the phone came with.
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jaymccoubrey said:
Ad blocker. And most of the time u can run a newer version of android then what the phone came with.
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Yes but not all the functions of your phone work that way.
Ad blocker sounds like a good idea for your data plan however I have 1 GB of data per month and unlimited after that but with lower speed and my actual data usage is like 200-300 MB per month with ads so this is not something that I really need and the apps that I use needs this ads in order to support them self.
About backup when my S4 mini LCD screen goes black I still had the ability to move my data via usb cable and Kies so when I take my S5 I spend probably 30 minutes to download back my backup from the S4 Mini and the only thing that I needed was to install my applications because of the newer android version of the S5.
However I do think that a lot of stuff is not working as it should be on custom roms.
The question should be: Why root a NEW Phone? As phones get older, manufacturer support ceases, one roots the phone to install new custom firmware.
xposed framework.
And with this new root method I don't have to worry about tripping KNOX and losing warranty.
bnight said:
To wait on Custom Rom developers to finally make your camera work as on the stock rom and your 3G to actually work ? Is CM rom really worth all the efforts in order to root your device ?
So why you rooted your phone ?
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Why oh why do people always just talk about cm based rom's. I root my device to provide custom rom's comparable to cm in terms of customisation whilst keeping everything Samsung based working.
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Goldie said:
Why oh why do people always just talk about cm based rom's.
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Because this is the most mainstream custom rom available.
As I say when I buy my phone I spend some time with his UI if I don`t like it I don`t buy the phone.
X-Note team rooted the galaxy s5 to have floating windows and note 3 features, multi dpi and a unique look
here the screenshots eh eh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724138
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bnight said:
Yes but not all the functions of your phone work that way.
Ad blocker sounds like a good idea for your data plan however I have 1 GB of data per month and unlimited after that but with lower speed and my actual data usage is like 200-300 MB per month with ads so this is not something that I really need and the apps that I use needs this ads in order to support them self.
About backup when my S4 mini LCD screen goes black I still had the ability to move my data via usb cable and Kies so when I take my S5 I spend probably 30 minutes to download back my backup from the S4 Mini and the only thing that I needed was to install my applications because of the newer android version of the S5.
However I do think that a lot of stuff is not working as it should be on custom roms.
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There are custom roms with everything working, to say otherwise with no experience is untrue.
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bnight said:
Because this is the most mainstream custom rom available.
As I say when I buy my phone I spend some time with his UI if I don`t like it I don`t buy the phone.
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That's my point. Maybe I should rephrase. Custom rom's aren't all source built.
As you say you spend a lot of time with its UI. This is why we made you able to change every aspect of that should you desire rather than just one or two preset themes.
All whilst keeping the Sammy S5 stuff and adding some extra cool stuff like hardware key mapping etc...
You should try it... It will give you the freedom to style your UI how you like whilst still keeping touchwiz and without breaking the stuff you mention. You don't even have to install xposed
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OP has a valid point - these days top tier smartphones are rather well-designed and tested.
I had to exchange 2 Samsung Galaxy Note 3's due to hardware failure. If I have rooted than I would have incurred a major loss due to void warranty. Now I am using an S5 and have no longer have the intention to root.
Having the privilege to exchange/take back your device is critical due to the hundreds of components in your device that could potentially malfunction.
bnight said:
So My question is as simple as that:
Why you rooted your phone ?
I`m an Linux administrator so I know what root account mean back in the days i rooted my phone because my android version was 2.1 and it wasn`t the most supported android version so I needed root in order to change the rom to 2.3 however I find CM really ugly and I know Samsung software is not the best possible but for me it works great.
So why you rooted your phone ? Is there a special reason why you want to skip OTA updates, To wait on Custom Rom developers to finally make your camera work as on the stock rom and your 3G to actually work ? Is CM rom really worth all the efforts in order to root your device ?
So why you rooted your phone ?
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To be honest, I'm a little surprised by this question considering you are a Linux admin. You should know full well the benefits root provides in terms of being able to do anything you need to configure the OS to suit your needs.
I was perfectly happy with the S5 without root, however I am very happy to now have it. It allows me to do simple, yet helpful things such as unlock the tethering features for unlimited users, changing soft key configurations, enabling writing to the SD card by 3rd party apps, and eliminating annoying pop ups such as the headphone volume notification. Among many many more things. Bottom line, as others have stated, it lets you use your phone as you please. Simply a better experience.
ROMs aren't even part of the equation when we are talking specifically about root.
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OP has a valid point - these days top tier smartphones are rather well-designed and tested.
I had to exchange 2 Samsung Galaxy Note 3's due to hardware failure. If I have rooted than I would have incurred a major loss due to void warranty. Now I am using an S5 and have no longer have the intention to root.
Having the privilege to exchange/take back your device is critical due to the hundreds of components in your device that could potentially malfunction.
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Your paying for insurance yes, no reason why the phone couldn't have been lost or stolen. Fixing your voiding warranty issue
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Goldie said:
Why oh why do people always just talk about cm based rom's. I root my device to provide custom rom's comparable to cm in terms of customisation whilst keeping everything Samsung based working.
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Because they are the most popular type of ROM
1. To restore/backup apps and their saved data when changing new phone or after factory reset. So I dont need to play the games from zero again. I use titanium backup
2. To allow/disallow which app can access internet. I use android firewall.
3. To block annoying adds from app. I use Addaway
4. To see battery statistic, checking which app causing battery drain, wakelock, wakeup. I use betterbatterystats or wakelock detector
5. To modify some xml system parameter or modify theme/look. Example: cannot write to external sd card just modify the xml.
6. Too change minimum cpu frequency or other features.
Maybe there is more. Root is very important to me.
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1. To restore/backup apps and their saved data when changing new phone or after factory reset. So I dont need to play the games from zero again. I use titanium backup
2. To allow/disallow which app can access internet. I use android firewall.
3. To block annoying adds from app. I use Addaway
4. To see battery statistic, checking which app causing battery drain, wakelock, wakeup. I use betterbatterystats or wakelock detector
5. To modify some xml system parameter or modify theme/look. Example: cannot write to external sd card just modify the xml.
6. Too change minimum cpu frequency or other features.
Maybe there is more. Root is very important to me.
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For your first point did you try to use KIES for taking backup of your phone or there was a new application in the S5 called smartswitch which I didn`t used just because i migrated from S4 Mini and used my KIES backup.
Blocking adds is good idea if you are on a limited data plan (I`m not) but this brings the other question for what exactly people use more then 1GB of mobile data ?
For me the battery life of the S5 is really good lately I put a software that drain my battery as hell but I usually keep the number of apps to minimum and even with all functions like network access and stuff turned on battery easy last a day or two so no issue there.
Changing some of the system bhaviour like writing to SD Card is actually important as for example my file manager is not working as it should be now but besides that don`t really see the reason to root your device.
I have tethering as a function on my phone but I doubt I will use it ever for more then 2-3 devices at a time and I think the current limitation is 8 devices.
Hey,
Like the title states, I know that I want to root my Note 4 (SM-N910G), I know that I want to do it to get rid of the crap that comes pre-installed. I also know I want to try and improve the battery life that has been decimated by updating to 5.0.1 and I also know I want access to app ops (this I want almost above all else).
What I want to know is, would I be better off searching for guides and such on loading custom roms? Or just rooting and staying with Lollipop?
Regards,
inpraiseofbacchus
Inpraiseofbacchus said:
Hey,
Like the title states, I know that I want to root my Note 4 (SM-N910G), I know that I want to do it to get rid of the crap that comes pre-installed. I also know I want to try and improve the battery life that has been decimated by updating to 5.0.1 and I also know I want access to app ops (this I want almost above all else).
What I want to know is, would I be better off searching for guides and such on loading custom roms? Or just rooting and staying with Lollipop?
Regards,
inpraiseofbacchus
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hi,
i basically have same attitude as you. Rooting and enjoying Lollipop. Anyway, i rooted my N910F snap a few hours after i got it way back in October 2014 and have not looked back. I prefer to have control over my devices.... be it a pc /laptop or phone ! I am on lollipop and enjoying it. My device is "tuned"
good(according to me.. apart from one or 2 small "bugs"..eg. recent button lag etc) Battery usage is very good, very smooth overall etc. I have counted my " rooted apps " that have permission to run and its about 20 apps n all !
So overall my life, with devices is made much easier, with rooting and using apps like direct Data Toggle or Toggle Network apps (switching between LTE only or LTE /3G or 3G only)
So i would say for me rooting and enjoy Lollipop..!
good luck
willcor said:
hi,
i basically have same attitude as you. Rooting and enjoying Lollipop. Anyway, i rooted my N910F snap a few hours after i got it way back in October 2014 and have not looked back. I prefer to have control over my devices.... be it a pc /laptop or phone ! I am on lollipop and enjoying it. My device is "tuned"
good(according to me.. apart from one or 2 small "bugs"..eg. recent button lag etc) Battery usage is very good, very smooth overall etc. I have counted my " rooted apps " that have permission to run and its about 20 apps n all !
So overall my life, with devices is made much easier, with rooting and using apps like direct Data Toggle or Toggle Network apps (switching between LTE only or LTE /3G or 3G only)
So i would say for me rooting and enjoy Lollipop..!
good luck
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I ended up rooting easily enough, enjoyed all the freedom that rooting provides. I ended up installing something I think (after I installed it) was a bit suspicious so now I have installed TWRP and will completely wipe it, install the stock firmware and root all over again.