[Q] NST or NTG? considering hacking updates for each one... - Nook Touch General

Hey Guys...
I'm about to buy a Nook. Cause I'm really in need to have a good ebook reader...
And I want to know if hacking and Android Developement for Nook simple Touch with Glow-edge (NTG) is progressed as much as Nook Simple Touch (NST)'s...
Are there any advantages for NST comparing with NTG in hacking?
For example is there any custom roms available for NST which is not available for NTG?
or, Is usb-host method working for NTG too?
I'll be Thankful if some one guides me...

Salar.m said:
Hey Guys...
I'm about to buy a Nook. Cause I'm really in need to have a good ebook reader...
And I want to know if hacking and Android Developement for Nook simple Touch with Glow-edge (NTG) is progressed as much as Nook Simple Touch (NST)'s...
Are there any advantages for NST comparing with NTG in hacking?
For example is there any custom roms available for NST which is not available for NTG?
or, Is usb-host method working for NTG too?
I'll be Thankful if some one guides me...
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I bought the NST a few days ago. From what I can tell, pretty much the same hacking options are available for NST and NTG. For example, the custom kernel that I installed, which enables multitouch and fastmode, (see the thread by guevor) is available for both NST and NTG.

Both devices are pretty hackable.
Be very, very careful that
1) you make a full (~2 gig) backup of your device before you start;
2) you are completely comfortable with restoring that backup - test on an SD card to be sure that you can restore and wind up with 8 partitions on that card -- I've seen folks retore from a viable backup, and accidentally restore only 1 partition, and that's a problem
3) any hacks you try are for the correct device.
Most tools are device specific. The two I threw together, tinynoot and fat glowworm, actually do work on both devices (and tinynoot, with a trivial mod, works on the Nook Color as well, it's what I used to re-root after the last OTA that I was too slow to block.)
If you use an NST tool on an NSTG you will very likely need to restore to stock and start over. 8 failed boots will get you out of most jams, but when it won't, you need to be sure you can restore your disk image.

Tnx Guys...
but, would you plz link me to a step-by-step guide page...? (for backup)
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So as you said, there will be no problems in hacking and custom mods for me if I buy a NTG... huh?
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if I'm not wrong, NTG's NAND is partitioned to 8 different disk partitions by default... and they keep all of (roms, etc.) data which I have to make an image of it to have them all saved and backuped... Right?
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And for the last Q.
Is a microSDHC 16GB class 2 compatible with NTG...?
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Tnx,
Peace,...

Yes, eight partitions. Complete backup and restore instructions are in this thread. Not sure about class 2 mSD, but I expect it would be fine. The device will handle up to 32GB.

Actually, I think it's a poor idea for us to link to a specific post or posts on this topic.
Enough people have mucked up their devices by not doing their research that I would strongly recommend that you read through the threads yourself before you put your device at risk.
The device does have 8 partitions; the simplest way to get a full backup is to use linux, either as a physical machine or in vmware player (which has excellent USB support)
Terms you should be hip to before you start:
- partition
- noogie
- clockwork
- framework.jar
and of course, OS versioning, so if someone's referring to a 1.2 release you're already aware of which device that was intended for.
I apologize if I sound unhelpful, but I think what you find out on your own will always be more valuable so that when something works strangely, you know where you first read about it and can drill in for more.
the development area is definitely worth reading even if you're not developing.

the links you asked for
for NSTGL
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
The main difference, is that Nook Touch Tools is working on NST but not NSTGL
so on the NST you can map your QuickNav buttons to the app of your choice, but not in NSTGL

LK, please don't take this the wrong way, but this is why I wouldn't want to point to only a few sources:
Your post refers to the Glow.
The first link refers to both the Glow and the Touch
The second link refers only to the Glow
It's that device confusion that makes me want folks to really understand the landscape before they start into it.

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[Q] Experiences with hacking Nook

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this and sorry if some of my questions are redundant, but can anyone tell me their experiences with hacking the Nook Color? I'm still deciding on getting it and I want to put Cyanogenmod 7(Gingerbread) in it( if I buy one), but I'm not 100 percent sure. Can someone tell me if it's easy, hard, any complications, etc? Also any links or information on how to dual boot it( is that the one where it doesn't void your warranty?) would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for all the noobness.
Welcome! There are a lot of threads here and in the Android Development sub-forum on getting started along with answers to most of your questions. See this post of mine for links on getting CM7 installed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16779145#post16779145
Frankly, everyone here will say that the nook is pretty awesome, especially with CM7. It's quite easy. The first time you install it might take a while (under 1 hour easy), but after a while it could really be done in a few minutes. At this point you just need to copy files mostly. Technically, I think running CM7 could void your warranty, but that said, the Nook is nearly unbrickable. You can pretty much always restore to stock if need be. The safest way to get started is to follow the SD card method from the link above.
Good luck!
It's just like learn how to swim or learn how to ride a bike.
No one ever able to do and do good first time, it takes time, always.
Someone picks things up fairly quick, some others learn at slower pace but they all get better at some points.
The only requirements are able to read and understand English and able to follow the instruction then you're off to go .......... and go far.
Lastly, if I can do it, you can do it.
Look into starting from the SDCard install options, before overwriting internal memory. If something goes wrong, you simply power off, remove the SDCard, and power up again, and you have your stock Nook Color working perfectly.
In my sig, click the link to "SD Install" for the best way to prep the MicroSD card for whatever ROM you want.
I highly recommend CM7, it's simply the best thing going for it. Again, installing to the MicroSD card is a painless way to test it out, links in verygreen's thread.
Make sure you have a SanDisk card, links in my sig to find out why if you're curious.
To this day, I still have my stock Nook Color B&N software updated and running on the internal memory - but for the life of me I can't figure out why I haven't taken the step to move CM7 to internal at this point. It's that good.
Point being, with a SanDisk MicroSD card, and CM7 installed to it, you really unlock the powerful user experience this device is capable of. Best part is, it's not a permanent thing. You simply power off, remove the MicroSD card, then power back up and you are back to stock.
Easy, painless, and tons of fun.
Thank You so much everyone for the responses. Sorry if I took too long to reply. I'm going to read over the directions right now Oh and do anyone have the list of some of the words? I'm still new to this and I don't know what "partition" or "kernel" means.
partition = dedicated space for specific usage.
kernel = sets of drivers, it is a brain of the ROM
i was a new nook owner and new to rooting as well. i had no trouble with following instructions and have been very happy with the outcome. it also helps to read a lot of other posts to see what issues may arise and how to fix things. as long as you can follow instructions properly its a breeze
Thank You all so much. I got one more question, I've been reading somewhere online that it's possible that you can go back to the original version of the nook without having to remove the SD card, and I just want to confirm if this is possible? If it's can you give me a link? Thank You sorry for so much question
Marid said:
Thank You all so much. I got one more question, I've been reading somewhere online that it's possible that you can go back to the original version of the nook without having to remove the SD card, and I just want to confirm if this is possible? If it's can you give me a link? Thank You sorry for so much question
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On the newer nightlies, you can press the nook 'n' button while the first green cyanogenmod logo is showing and it will take you to a boot menu. You can then select to boot from emmc (internal) or the sd card, and also choose normal or recovery mode.
Sorry about this but 1 more small question, will bn update( i think ota) affect the rooted nook? If so, can you tell me how to fix it?

A few questions to the NST, just got mine!

Hello,
I'm new to the Nook Simple Touch and received it today. It's awesome so far!
1. Could someone tell me how I install CWM with it, is there a guide? I can't find any guide on the development section on xda, sorry.
2. Also, what is the best method to root my NST? Touch Nooter or Minimal Touch or another one?
3. Is there a stock ROM somewhere? I would want it, if I want to set my Nook back to the default settings and wipe everything if I'll mess it up somehow.
4. Can I update to the latest version 1.1.2 if I want to
+ root it
+ install CWM
+ install the multitouch function from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563645
Is everything of this working with 1.1.2 or do I need 1.1.0?
5. And my last question is, what's the difference betwen N2E and NST in the development thread? (I know, NST = Nook Simple Touch, but what is N2E? I thought it's also the Nook Simple Touch)
I'm really, really sorry for those questions, but I'd be very happy if someone could answer them. I don't want to make something wrong with my beloved NST.
Thanks in advance!
Greetings,
Draygon
Welcome to the community!
Before you do anything, you're going to want to backup your Nook. Each Nook contains information specific to that Nook, such as the MAC address, serial number, etc., so this backup will be what will restore you to a stock out-of-the-box Nook. Just make sure you have an external card reader to write noogie.img to the SD card.
CWM is here, but there's no real reason to install it to the device itself. It's easier to install it to an SD card and just put that in when you need it. There's no custom ROMS yet, and it's better to use the backup you made earlier (hopefully).
Also, for rooting and installing multi-touch, I made a mini quick-start guide here.
For the most part, we haven't noticed much difference between rooting 1.1.0 vs. 1.1.2. And N2E stands for Nook Second Edition (this Nook came first).
Enjoy your Nook!
Hello Googie, Thanks a lot for your answer, they helped me a lot!
For sure I'll do the backup at frst.
Am I able to use N2E from the development forum on the NST? (like touchnooter?)
So, it's safe to update to 1.1.2 and root it? Because I have seen a few people on this forum complaning about bugs with a rooted 1.1.2, which aren't there with a rooted 1.1.0, such as that the search function is not working in the play stote with a rooted 1.1.2.
Would you recommend touch nooter or minimal touch?
Draygon said:
Am I able to use N2E from the development forum on the NST? (like touchnooter?)
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The N2E is simply another name for NST, so it's safe to use anything with that name.
Draygon said:
So, it's safe to update to 1.1.2 and root it? Because I have seen a few people on this forum complaning about bugs with a rooted 1.1.2, which aren't there with a rooted 1.1.0, such as that the search function is not working in the play stote with a rooted 1.1.2.
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There's not much difference between 1.1.2 and 1.1.0. B&N just addressed some WiFi issues with this update, not much has changed otherwise. And Google caused the searching issues by replacing Market with Google Play, it's just coincidence that the update came out when Google changed it.
Draygon said:
Would you recommend touch nooter or minimal touch?
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I myself use Minimal Touch, but I haven't tried TouchNooter before. TouchNooter has some extra things with it (like a tool that under-clocks the CPU when it's not in use to save battery), but some times it fails to install correctly. And there's also the possibility that Market just won't work for 24 hours... but it's broken anyway.
Thanks again for the answers.
There's just one problem I have, which won't let me backup my NST:
From this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983
I want to use the guide to backup the NST for windows 7 (post #2),
There's a big problem: the link to the noogie.img (which should be here: http://nookdevs.com/NookTouch_Rooting) was deleted.
1. Where can I get this noogie.img now? Could someone please upload it?
2. And the next problem is, how do I boot the noogie.img, if I have it? jocala just wrote, that you have to boot it. Not, how to boot it.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.thoughtsofthemasses.com/noogie.img.gz
burn the image it to sdcard, switch off your nook, plug in sdcard and turn nook on.
And small puzzle at the end: what does following message say about the nookdev page?
10:50, 11 January 2012 Spec (Talk | contribs) deleted "NookTouch Rooting" ‎ (content was: '#REDIRECT Nook_Simple_Touch/Rooting/Manual')
Are there any requirements that a microSD card must fill when used for this purpose? I have two fail notches on my lipstick case.
The first time I pulled a 256mb microSD card from an old phone; fail. Later I read it is recommended to use a Class 6 or greater. I bought a Class 10. Again, fail.
The adapter is electrically passive so that should not be a factor, right?
I never pay attention to that class stuff.
I always buy the Micro Center brand 4GB at $5.50 because they are only $1.50 more than 2GB.
Apparently they are Class 4.
Thank you, Renate NST. Then my problem lies elsewhere.
Between WinImage and Win32DiskImager has either shown a higher success rate for this project? Is one generally preferred by the community?
I use Win32DiskImager.
I've got about 10 different backups on my hard drive right now.
I've bricked my Nook multiple times trying to hack internals and restored from backup.
My backups end up by being 1,957,616,640 in size.
I don't use Clockwork or anything.
Thank you for providing the file size, that was helpful.
Is it odd that that the second backup (using noogie.img and DiskImage_1_6_WinAll.exe) was almost twenty-five times larger than the first? 79,675,392 verses 1,958,739,968.
If your backups are about 1.9xx Gigs then you are correctly backing up the entire physical internal memory of the Nook.
If your backups are 70 Megs or so you are either backing up only one of the 7 partitions on the Nook or
else you are backing up your SD card with Noogie on it.
Note:
After writing a Noogie image to an SD card you will find that the total size of the SD card has been reduced to 70 Megs or so.
To reclaim the entire size of the SD card for other uses you will need some tool like Partition Magic.
Windows Disk Management can not by itself repartition SD cards.
There's also something out there called SD formatter.
Or once you have your Nook running, you can just format it from that.
You have all been so very helpful. After watching the noob video I figured you people ate noobs for lunch.
Renate, you were right: I backed up the SD card. I hate to think of all the others who have done the same and won’t know the backup is useless until they need it. It’s an easy mistake to make but knowing an approximate file size was an excellent deterrent against disaster. Thanks for the heads up.
The rest was pure voodoo but I’m rooted. Still, there were some surprises and I have two final questions.
• Between failed rooting attempts, while in original mode, I updated the NS2 to 1.1.2. After rooting the device is using 1.1.0. Should I look for a way to root into 1.1.2 or just be content?
• Also while in original mode I wanted to change the registered gmail account for the device. I created a second B&N account using my preferred gmail, then did an “Erase and Deregister” to reregistered the device with the preferred gmail account. However, after rooting I couldn’t log into YouTube with my reregistered, preferred gmail, only the first gmail was accepted. Yet, when looking in Settings\Device Info\About Your Nook\Owner, my preferred gmail (not the first gmail) is listed. How do I get the rooted Nook to recognize my preferred gmail address in the market?

[Q] Rooting newer Nook version: how to know which software?

I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
There are at least two methods that work with the Glowworm.
You should not use any method until after you have
- made a noogie disk
- booted from it
- backed up your device
- restored that backup to a test disk (a 2 gig or larger microSD card, for instance) and confirmed that the test results in a disk that has 8 partitions.
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore seems to be only getting one partition restored and blowing out the other partitions.
I don't know if the stuff that eded is working on has come to fruition yet - he was looking at building a tool that could detect whether it was run on an NST or NSTG and root appropriately to the device.
The two routes I know work are:
- glownooter, the nooter project tool, includes Google apps and market support
- tinynoot, pasted together from various tools, gives you minimal root without google apps and with amazon appstore. Will work with either NST or NSTG because it's approach is so minimalist.
Thanks, roustabout! I will be sure to test the backups before I install anything else, then. Good to know!
In any case, what I am most concerned about is getting the right version of the rooting software for my device. I see that Nook devices have different firmware and that certain tools only work with certain firmware versions. I see no mention of my firmware version in any tools' websites, hence my apprehension.
hence the value of a backup
I saw your request on that and I think one of the issues here is that so many folks use Windows exclusively, and the backup process is so easy on linux that trying to tell people how to do it in Windows is like jabbing yourself in the eye with a stick, given that linux is free, vmware player is free, and linux can be installed and used for this job entirely in vmware player. On the other side of the coin, if you know nothing of linux, even using dd correctly will be a challenge since there's a pretty steep learning curve behind setting up a new OS successfully just to be able to get backups off an 80-130 dollar device.
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
I didn't mention it, but I also use Linux at home (Kubuntu, like Ubuntu but with a better UI). So many people are now using Ubuntu that I find it surprising that the instructions even bother mentioning the OSes for which the operation is as difficult as you say. I remember when doing things in Linux was hard and Windows was easy, and at that time Linux was hardly ever mentioned!
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
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I did not realize that the 1.1.5 release is glowlight-only. Great, thanks, I'm on to hacking this thing!
ok, so for you the backup process is:
- make the noogie disk
- put it into your device
- power cycle your device
- when it boots to "rooted forever," connect the USB cable to your linux box
- once the linux box mounts the NSTG as storage, pay attention to which device it is mounting it at. Assuming it's sdX:
- backup with dd if=/dev/sdX of=backup.img bs=1M
When that's done, disconnect your NSTG, throw media of some sort, larger than 2G, onto your box and test your restore with
dd if=backup.img of=/dev/sdY bs=1M
Once that's done, do an
fdisk /dev/sdY
and a
p to print the partition table.
You should have 8 partitions (and your backup.img file should be just under 2 gig.)
Hack away; if you ever need to restore, you can just drop the virgin image back on.
I take a snapshot like this of my device every so often since remembering how I got to whatever config I liked is harder than just backing it up.
Thanks for the backup instructions, the idea of testing it on a DVD-ROM looks to save quite a bit of trouble with the actual device..
I rooted with this terrific guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
The process was simple. I do have an issue where I need to install a Hebrew font but ES File Manager doesn't seem to see the root folders. I'm having a hard time googling my way out of this one, bu all the other little issues were fairly simple.
One issue that I will mention that was hard to solve was the inability to perform searches in the Market. This page helped me resolve that issue:
blog.the-ebook-reader . com/2011/07/15/rooted-nook-touch-fixing-market-search-and-other-tips-and-tricks-video/
I just figured out that the file manager has to have Root permissions enabled. I've enabled it and added some fonts to /system/fonts but I still cannot get Hebrew text to display on this device. All I get are the typical rectangles instead of characters. Any ideas about how to proceed?
Thanks.
Restore Nook 1.1.2
roustabout said:
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore .
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1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
bubblewrapper said:
1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
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Few people who will be knowledgeable will find your post buried here under this thread. i suggest that you simply start a new thread with a good descriptive title so that the gurus will find it.
Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
roustabout said:
Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
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Actually, I think that I just need the fonts (or at least that would be a great first step). I put fonts with Hebrew glyphs in /system/fonts (using ES File Explorer in Root mode) but even after a restart it does not find the fonts (i.e. Hebrew text still shows as rectangles). I will fight with it some more in the coming days, if I don't succeed I will start a new, concise thread on the topic. There are plenty of Google posts on the subject, but all of the ones that I have seen (not Nook-specific) suggest that dropping the fonts is /system/fonts should be enough. Perhaps it is a permissions issue, I'll see if I can SSH into the device to see permissions.
dotancohen said:
I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
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Sorry that I am so slow to respond, but I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
ladykayaker said:
Sorry that I am so slow to respond,
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Thank you! You don't need to apologize for taking time to respond, you are under no obligation! But I very much do appreciate your assistance and am happy to wait patiently! You will notice that I usually google issues first to try to save us both the time!
I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
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Thank you. It seems that those posts are Windows-centric summerizations of information found here at XDA-developers. The root is pretty much the process that I used, but from the guide right here which has Linux directions as well.
By the way, the-ebook-reader site is often not responding for me. Is it just for me, or does everyone have trouble with that site?
Thanks!
version 1.2.0
UK glowlight ships with 1.2.0. Use tinynooter to root this. You may have issues installing apps atm though but you will get the browser at least.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961835
Thanks, Loney. In fact, I got this Glowlight in the US, and it reports that it has software verion 1.1.5. But the information will be good for others who might google this thread!

[HELP THREAD] B&N Nook Touch • Ask Any Question • Noob Friendly

Hi,
Welcome to the B&N Nook Touch Help Thread!
Thanks so much @[color=black]undercover[/color], @[color=green][i]immortalneo[/i][/color] and @[color=green][i]dagger[/i][/color] for giving me the idea to create a help thread, and thanks so much @[color=purple][i]malybru[/i][/color] for the idea of a device-specific help thread and the outline of this thread (check out his [HELP THREAD] Galaxy S4 | Ask any question | Noob friendly.).
Barnes and Noble Nook Touch variants
This thread deals with all three Nook Touch models.
Nook Simple Touch
Nook Simple Touch with GlowLight
Nook GlowLight
I would highly recommend that you read entirely through this thread's OPs before posting anything on XDA.
Whatever question you ask, you will either get a straight-out answer or get pointed in the right direction. This is a noob-friendly thread; please, act like it and don't flame new users! If you abuse newcomers, your post will be reported.
The 10 Golden Rules
Please follow these rules before and during your question post.
Don't act rudely toward other members.
Do your best to state your question clearly and concisely; don't give us a memoir of your life.
Research your question before asking it here - if a simple Google search is all it takes to solve your problem, please, do it yourself!
Please try to only ask one question at a time.
Proofread your question before posting it, and use your best grammar and spelling.
Look at the Useful Links before posting - you might find what you need there!
Avoid PMing and/or emailing users your questions - just stick to posting in the thread, please.
Don't forget that the people who help you do it voluntarily, and have no obligation to assist.
If you find a solution yourself, make sure to edit your question post to display that your problem is solved.
If the above occurs, please feel free to share your solution with others, as well.
Thanks @[color=black]_JKay_[/color] for the idea of a "Top 10 Rules" list.
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That's all for now. Enjoy!
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Useful Links
All of the Nook Touch threads below are for the Nook Simple Touch (with GlowLight) with firmware 1.2.1 unless specifically stated otherwise.
Important Threads
• Hacking the new Nook GlowLight - @Edgur - Development and discussion thread for hacking the new Nook GlowLight
• [Guide][NST] Parental control over web browser - @thenookieforlife3 - Tutorial on how to disable hidden web browser for parental control
• [Guide][1.2.1] Mounting USB Devices - @thenookieforlife3 - Extensive tutorial on how to mount USB devices to the Nook Touch
• Guide/HowTo/Tips'nTricks - The perfect Nook Simple Touch Setup w/ battery optimization - @jam_dev - Instructive on how to optimize the Nook Touch's battery life
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Quick & useful links to Kernels / ROMs / Great apps
- @TheChouffy - List of kernels, apps, ROMs and useful commands
• [Solution] Yet another way to unbrick: unplug the battery for a while - @Aqq123 - Self-explanatory title
Apps
• Temblast Android Apps - @Renate NST
• [APP][NST][NSTG][1.2.x]NTGAppsAttack - Google Apps Installer Addon For NookManager - @straygecko
• E-paper: Simple drawing app - @marspeople
• [APP][5/3/14] ScreenshotSaver - keep reading while nook sleeps - @nivieru
• NoRefresh enabler - @bardo8430
• [APP] NookCalc - @sega dude
Rooters
• [Root] NookManager - graphical rooter for 1.2.x and beyond - @jeff_kz
• [NTG][1.2]GlowNooter 1.12.25 - @GabrialDestruir
ROMs
• [NST/NSTG][ROM] Tweaked Modded ROM [Feb16] - @pinguy1982
• [NST/NSTG][ROM] 1337 ROM [Nov. 6] - @yattaro, @thenookieforlife3
Kernels
• [Kernel] OC to 1100Mhz and linaro gcc 4.7 (New version with fast display mode) - @guevor
• [NSTG][Kernel] Multitouch/USB Host Kernel + uRamdisk - @thenookieforlife3
Themes
• [NST/NSTG][Theme] Status Bar Modification [Sept. 17] - @thenookieforlife3
Tools/Utilities
• NoRefreshToggle CWM Install + SuperUser CWM Install + init.d+busybox CWM Install - @pinguy1982
Other Mods
• Fix for a rattling power button - @Tharg0r
• Changing your WiFi MAC address - @dumalkin
Want your thread on this list? Shoot me a PM and I'll look into it.
can't re-register: help please
I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706 and successfully rooted and installed android on my new NST Glowlight. Sadly, I didn't take a back-up image of the device before rooting.
After I got it working I decided I would like to use my main Google account rather than the alternate one I had used, both for Barnes and Noble and for Android on the device. I thought that I could delete my account from the device and start again, so I used the trick of resetting the device by holding down the lower left and right page turn keys for 30 seconds then choosing to reset to factory settings.
Since doing this, every time I attempt to re-register with Barnes & Noble it tells me "ERROR Sorry we're having trouble setting up your Nook, please shut down your device and try again". I have tried using Clockwork Recovery to wipe all the partitions it can access. I went to the Barnes & Nobles site to see if I had a device registered and although I have an account there with the Gmail address I used it says there is no device registered, so I can't "de-register" from there.
I tried the hold down the power button for 15 seconds after the screen flashes black and repeat six times, and nothing doing there.
Suggestions appreciated. Thanks!
@dc72,
Well, you have a couple of options here.
First, if you don't absolutely need to have B&N on your Nook, you can bypass the sign-in step by holding the top-right hard button and sliding your finger right-to-left across the top of the screen at the "Welcome to Nook Simple Touch with GlowLight" screen, pressing "Factory", holding the top-right hard button and tapping the bottom-right corner of the screen at the "Factory" screen, and tapping "Skip Oobe".
Second, if you do need B&N, try using the NookManager "Restore factory.zip" feature to factory-image-wipe your Nook.
:good:
Thank you!
Brilliant! The first procedure got me in to the ereader. So I know I can reinstall android now and bypass B&N.
Ideally I would like to have it as it was out the box again though. I don't have a back-up image as yet and because my device is now rooted I was not sure that NookManager would be able to create a clean one.
I don't want to mess things up any further than I have, so can you confirm that in my particular scenario, on the rooted NST Glowlight, I can create and restore a Factory.zip?
I was under the impression that since I have rooted I can no longer create a factory image. I will await your investigation and response before meddling further. Thank you!
EDIT: Actually I'm sure you have already thought of all that, so I'm going to trust you and go ahead with your suggestion to use Nookmanager. I'm sure it will work exactly as described! Thank you so much!
EDIT 2: I don't actually need B&N at all and would kind of rather not have them pushing books at me I have no interest in etc, so thank you greatly for the method to bypass that! Can you tell me will I be able to install 1337 rom from this thread now with my NST Glowlight in it's current state? I'm a bit reluctant to install CWM over the top of the existing recovery system so would try it from the micro SD I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/development/1337-rom-t2931567
dc72 said:
Brilliant! The first procedure got me in to the ereader. So I know I can reinstall android now and bypass B&N.
Ideally I would like to have it as it was out the box again though. I don't have a back-up image as yet and because my device is now rooted I was not sure that NookManager would be able to create a clean one.
I don't want to mess things up any further than I have, so can you confirm that in my particular scenario, on the rooted NST Glowlight, I can create and restore a Factory.zip?
I was under the impression that since I have rooted I can no longer create a factory image. I will await your investigation and response before meddling further. Thank you!
EDIT: Actually I'm sure you have already thought of all that, so I'm going to trust you and go ahead with your suggestion to use Nookmanager. I'm sure it will work exactly as described! Thank you so much!
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@dc72,
Glad my suggestions helped!
One thing you need to understand, though - factory.zip is not something that can be created or modified. Factory.zip is the original factory image that your device came with out-of-the-box.
Backups are the things that can be created and restored. You can create a backup absolutely any time, even if your device is rooted. In fact, creating a backup when you first root is a great idea, because if something messes up in the future, you can restore the backup that's already rooted, and you won't have to go through the rooting process all over again.
EDIT - Yes, you most certainly can install 1337 ROM over your current rooted state. You will need to just follow the installation instructions to the letter, and then you'll be good to go.
So to install 1337 I have to install CWR to the actual Nook? Considering that with your help the standard recovery has pulled me out a hole I'm not sure I want to loose that at this point.
Can 1337 be installed using CWR from SD, what is the reason it's advised to install it to the Nook directly, and can the NST Glowlight still be reset to factory the way you directed me earlier after following the current 1337 install instructions?
Much appreciate your help and instruction!
dc72 said:
So to install 1337 I have to install CWR to the actual Nook? Considering that with your help the standard recovery has pulled me out a hole I'm not sure I want to loose that at this point.
Can 1337 be installed using CWR from SD, what is the reason it's advised to install it to the Nook directly, and can the NST Glowlight still be reset to factory the way you directed me earlier after following the current 1337 install instructions?
Much appreciate your help and instruction!
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It doesn't matter whether or not CWM is installed on your NST - you just need to be able to boot into it, which, of course, can be done by simply writing the image to the sdcard, turning off the Nook, plugging the sdcard into the Nook, and turning the Nook back on. Installation is recommended, but optional.
The Nook can be factory-image-reset using the NookManager method whether or not CWM is installed as the default recovery. FYI, I personally also have an NST GlowLight, and I have had CWM installed on it for many months. It's much better than the stock recovery.
You're a star! I will take your advice and go for the 1337 install with CWM installed on the Nook. I also have a Kobo touch with android installed on it, and really like the interface they have used. It works really well! I got the NST Glow for the light and the text looked clearer in the shop... Looking forward to trying the 1337 upgrade! Big thanks!
I just purchased nook glowlight new.
I cannot find what version it is (is not listed in the box).
B&N online also keeps the version number obscure.
Can't find out how to find the version in the settings.
It has the white frame. have some questions prior to my giving up and returning.
.1. How do I find out what the model number is?
(assume it is the BNRV500 but am not sure).
2. most of the memory I find out after purchased is reserved for B&N downloads (2 gb) so there is only .5 gb for my own personal supply.
If I cannot root to unlock the 2 gb, I will likely return the thing. Can I unlock the memory via rooting, or is there another way to do this?
3. How do I root the thing (if it will unlock the memory).
Thanks
11,000th post in the Nook Touch General forum!
@leiko49,
Answers to your questions in red.
I just purchased nook glowlight new. Good choice!
I cannot find what version it is (is not listed in the box). If you mean the software version, it's 1.3.1.
1. How do I find out what the model number is?
(assume it is the BNRV500 but am not sure). I have an idea, but I don't know for sure. Can you tell me if there's a Device Info page and/or an About Your NOOK page?
2. Can I unlock the memory via rooting, or is there another way to do this? I think this has been achieved before, but I'm not 100% sure. If so, it's probably beyond my level. Search these forums a bit.
3. How do I unroot the thing (if it will unlock the memory)? Unrooting can be achieved by a simple factory reset.
Thanks
unlocking memory
I have the BNRV500
Will rooting this unlock the memory?
Thanks!
Is it possible to use the current screen as the sleep wallpaper? As in, instead of displaying a wallpaper when the Nook automatically goes to sleep, simply show the last static image on the device. For example, you're reading a book and you put the book down for a few hours. When you come back the last page is still on the screen, but the nook is asleep. You don't have to wake it up to finish reading the page/map/flashcard etc. One of the primary benefits of e-ink is that you can have static images displayed indefinitely without additional battery drain, it would be nice to take advantage of this instead of just using it to display standard wallpapers.
@leiko49, no, rooting your Nook Glow will not free up any memory - rather, it will take up more!
jun127 said:
Is it possible to use the current screen as the sleep wallpaper?
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This can be achieved in two ways (thanks, @nivieru!):
• This app, which takes a screenshot every 01:50 and uses it as the screensaver; or
• Editing /system/framework/services.jar to not use the screensaver when the Nook sleeps, which is discussed here.
jun127 said:
Is it possible to use the current screen as the sleep wallpaper? As in, instead of displaying a wallpaper when the Nook automatically goes to sleep, simply show the last static image on the device. For example, you're reading a book and you put the book down for a few hours. When you come back the last page is still on the screen, but the nook is asleep. You don't have to wake it up to finish reading the page/map/flashcard etc. One of the primary benefits of e-ink is that you can have static images displayed indefinitely without additional battery drain, it would be nice to take advantage of this instead of just using it to display standard wallpapers.
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Hi jun, there are two ways to achieve this,
the first is with this app, that takes a screenshot every 110 seconds and makes it the screensaver.
the second is by making the screensaver invisible, which is a bit more complicated than installing an app. It is detailed in this thread
thenookieforlife3 said:
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Unrooting can be achieved by a simple factory reset.
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Hi there, First, nice job creating this useful thread. :good: I'll thank and like in a min...This is not my device and I'm trying to help someone out. My question to clarify, if I may:
Since simple factory reset unroots, by using the factory.zip Restore via Nook Manager, am I all set for a warranty claim? She had a custom launcher on here, with Kindle reader and other apps, obviously superuser in there, etc. I went through factory.zip via Nook Manager, and the device is reset. Like, "Hi, welcome to Nook. Press this button to begin tutorial..."
Since this device isn't familiar to me, I have to ask if I'm missing something. On some devices there's more to do, things to "re-lock" and all that. Using factory.zip, has the superuser app been wiped, and anything else that indicates tampering is removed... so this should be all set for warranty return? Thanks in advance. :highfive:
Edit: @thenookieforlife3 - I just noticed that your goal is to join the RC team. Good effort!
erikalin said:
Hi there, First, nice job creating this useful thread. :good: I'll thank and like in a min...This is not my device and I'm trying to help someone out. My question to clarify, if I may:
Since simple factory reset unroots, by using the factory.zip Restore via Nook Manager, am I all set for a warranty claim? She had a custom launcher on here, with Kindle reader and other apps, obviously superuser in there, etc. I went through factory.zip via Nook Manager, and the device is reset. Like, "Hi, welcome to Nook. Press this button to begin tutorial..."
Since this device isn't familiar to me, I have to ask if I'm missing something. On some devices there's more to do, things to "re-lock" and all that. Using factory.zip, has the superuser app been wiped, and anything else that indicates tampering is removed... so this should be all set for warranty return? Thanks in advance. :highfive:
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Great to have an RC in here!
First of all, thanks for the nod - I do try to help everybody I can with this device, as it's my specialty.
To answer your question, if you execute the "Restore factory.zip" NookManager feature, it very literally doesn't just wipe the device - it restores the entire device to the image it came with from the factory, hence "factory.zip". Since, of course, when it came off the assembly line, the Nook had no Superuser or root mods of any kind, the Nook is 100% back to regular, and is all set for a warranty claim.
On the subject of the warranty claim, however… I just hope B&N is still accepting NST devices. They stopped selling them a while back. Just keep this in mind so that you're not too disappointed when/if the lady at the help desk says "Oh, I'm sorry, but we don't accept Nook Touches anymore."
Hope this helps!
EDIT - @erikalin, thank you for the RC encouragement. :good:
thenookieforlife3 said:
On the subject of the warranty claim, however… I just hope B&N is still accepting NST devices. They stopped selling them a while back. Just keep this in mind so that you're not too disappointed when/if the lady at the help desk says "Oh, I'm sorry, but we don't accept Nook Touches anymore."
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for confirming. Yeah, I talked with the girl at the desk of the local B&N by phone re: warranty claim. It's all set - they just need to get it in hand, thus the restore. Since I don't know this system at all, just wanted to see that I wasn't overlooking anything. Good luck XDA-ing. :highfive:
Unfortunately the ONLY way to get a NST with/without glolight from B&N is through warranty exchange, when I did it a few months back I received one in a sealed certified pre owned box that appeared brand new without a single mark on it and the second one was in fact a sealed brand new device.
OB
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Nook Simple Touch Glowlight .. Need advice before rooting.

Hello all ...
Please .. I need some advice..
This is my first post. My sister has given me her Nook Simple Touch Glowlight. I would like to root it, as I've been looking for a device to keep notes and stuff on. I went as far as booting up with noogie.img and backing up the firmware. I don't know what to do, because I read that having a certain firmware changes everything? I don't think my sister updated the nook. Here is the information from the Settings / Device Info / About Your Nook.
Software Version: 1. 1. 5
Model Number: BNRV350
I read someplace that the sizes of the firmwares are different. The simple touch is 1. 82 and the simple touch glow is 1. 86.
Mine is 1 .82, but yet it has the glowlight? It says to hold the button down for two seconds to turn it on.
I see that B&N have new firmware for the nst & nstg. 1. 3 I believe. It said on the site that this firmware would be installed when the nook is idle. (via wifi) Anyway, I'm wondering if it would be ok to go ahead and root the thing, or upgrade the firmware first to maybe - 1. 2 (if I can find it?) before I do anything else? Oh and should I stay away from B&N's new 1. 3 firmware?
Thank You Very Much !!
WillyS.......
If you indeed have the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight (black bezel), then the most recent stock firmware is 1.2.1 which can be downloaded here. I would recommend that you update to this as the first thing you do. Next you need to decide which of the multitude of rooting methods is best for you. You need to take into account what you wish to achieve by rooting the Nook and your skill/comfort level with the processes. I have followed many of the different processes, doing a factory reset between root versions. By far the easiest is Nook Manager. I, personally, prefer the Minimal rooting - back to basics method because it allows you to install just what YOU want. However, this method requires a fair amount of command line work.
EDIT: I made the assumption that you are in the US and have a US model. I believe there is a different firmware number for the international model. In any case, you should update the Nook to the most recent firmware before rooting.
Rooting nook .. Glowlight ..
Hello David and Thank You kindly for the reply!
Yes, mine is a Canadian version and it has the black bezel.
Thank you .. for correcting me on the firmware. I was looking at the wrong Nook version. (nook.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086)
I downloaded the correct 1. 2. firmware for the nook and I (like you) would rather install what I want to and have more control over what gets put on it. After I update the firmware, I'll come back and follow the links you provided. If you know what threads have the latest / newest info on rooting the nstg, can you please point me to it? (If you haven't already) Thank You Very Much for your help .. David.
Cheers
WS
You're welcome. If you are comfortable with a lot of manual, command line manipulation, start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics thread. There are many more and newer rooting methods, but each of them installs a bunch of apps that the creators use, which may or may not be of importance to you. If you start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics, you can then pick and choose the apps and modifications you want to apply to give you the best experience for YOUR needs. I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
Rooting Nook STG .. Firmware 1. 2 ...
Hi David and Thank You for the reference document.
Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
I'm at the rooting - back to basics thread. I'm going to read all this stuff over and see if I can figure it all out. Thanks again for your help and the document.
WS...
WillySizard said:
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Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
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Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
Don't really know where to go from here, or what to do ..
@ digixmax .. Thank You for the info on the SD-card. Good to know info!
@ david0226 .. I went to the page about rooting via the link and I have basic
understanding how / what needs to be done, but I'm not having much
luck finding and using the tools. I went and looked for the file used to
extract the 2 files from uRamdisk, but I couldn't find it. I did some reading
and looking around and found a program called Preboot (I think) by
Intel and it contained bootutil 32/64 and so on. I had to install preboot & then
uninstall it, to get bootutil and then install it. I tried using it to extract
the files, but I kept getting failed messages. Like invalid switch /x.
Invalid switch /v. Invalid file uRamdisk. I know I need to extract out 2
files: init.rc and default.prop. I tried to do so in the "Administrative Command
Window" on Win7_64bit, but it just wouldn't work with bootutil. Not the
one I had anyway. Any ideas? Thanks!
WillyS......
David0226 said:
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I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
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What extensions does "Extended Power Menu" provide?
Also, which uImage and uRamdisk do you use as uRecImg and uRecRAM?
TIA.
Here are the links to the relevant threads.
Extended Power Menu
Clockworkmod based Recovery post #75, see the entire thread here.
If you are going to do the Extended Power Menu, be sure to do the Clockworkmod based Recovery also or you risk wiping out everything you have done by accidentally hitting recovery in the Extended Power Menu. I you have installed Clockworkmod Recovery and accidentally hit "Recovery", it will just boot to Clockworkmod and give you a chance to back out.
@willys. I will have to look up the software I use and post tomorrow. Sorry I missed your question earlier.
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
David0226 said:
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
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Yes, I had to go to her profile and I found it there. I'll do this part first and see how it goes. After that (I think?) I need to get an android program (some kind of Installer maybe?) to do some other work with. Anyway, one step at a time. All for now. Thanks! ... WS.
digixmax said:
Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
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Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
Almost done, but need a little more help . . .
Mnurlan said:
Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
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OK .. Thank You Mnurlan!
@David0226 ...
Just getting to the point where I'm ready to add programs. have edited uRamdisk and re-installed the two files. I've download android-sdk package and have installed it. I have been in the nook via wifi using ndb shell as root. I am now following your notes file. I've created the archive folder on the nook - /system/archive and I've been moving files over from /system/apps folder. I got Nook Manager written to the sd-card and I have PackageInstaller.adk from it, but I I'm not sure how I get that onto the nook. When I boot with NookManager, it ask if I want to root. I have already done that and it is working. Should I let it do it anyway?
Thank You!
WillySizard . . . .
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
Nook Simple Touch Glowlight .. Need advice before rooting ..
David0226 said:
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
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Ahhh .. ok. Good enough then. That should get me off and running.
Thank You .. David. Sorry I'm being such a pest.
Me, also
Just paid $5 for a BNRV350 at a rummage sale.
I understand BN disabled the web browser with the current operating system.
I can get a Google search window (by repeated tapping on the "Google" or maybe the "404" or the "that's all" links that appear when I try the "connect to social" settings menu choice for Google. And "find my account" worked when given the Gmail userid (because the keypad on the Nook lacks a period for typing a proper email address, in this view).
And I can get a Twitter login page. Neither works well -- typing even a single letter into the password field resets the page, so it's letter, then tap in the field window, then another letter, then tap in the field window. Sometimes it shows a row of dots for characters already entered, other times those are invisible but the entries are still there.
Just curious to add to the above fellow's thread for anyone searching for this Nook model number, if anyone has advice or suggestions about making it useful.
Reverting to the original OS to have use of the web browser would be a welcome option, if that's possible. Pointers welcome. Right now this Nook has version 1.1.5 installed -- I gather that's one of the improved versions that killed the stock web browser.

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