Hello,
I'm new to the Nook Simple Touch and received it today. It's awesome so far!
1. Could someone tell me how I install CWM with it, is there a guide? I can't find any guide on the development section on xda, sorry.
2. Also, what is the best method to root my NST? Touch Nooter or Minimal Touch or another one?
3. Is there a stock ROM somewhere? I would want it, if I want to set my Nook back to the default settings and wipe everything if I'll mess it up somehow.
4. Can I update to the latest version 1.1.2 if I want to
+ root it
+ install CWM
+ install the multitouch function from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563645
Is everything of this working with 1.1.2 or do I need 1.1.0?
5. And my last question is, what's the difference betwen N2E and NST in the development thread? (I know, NST = Nook Simple Touch, but what is N2E? I thought it's also the Nook Simple Touch)
I'm really, really sorry for those questions, but I'd be very happy if someone could answer them. I don't want to make something wrong with my beloved NST.
Thanks in advance!
Greetings,
Draygon
Welcome to the community!
Before you do anything, you're going to want to backup your Nook. Each Nook contains information specific to that Nook, such as the MAC address, serial number, etc., so this backup will be what will restore you to a stock out-of-the-box Nook. Just make sure you have an external card reader to write noogie.img to the SD card.
CWM is here, but there's no real reason to install it to the device itself. It's easier to install it to an SD card and just put that in when you need it. There's no custom ROMS yet, and it's better to use the backup you made earlier (hopefully).
Also, for rooting and installing multi-touch, I made a mini quick-start guide here.
For the most part, we haven't noticed much difference between rooting 1.1.0 vs. 1.1.2. And N2E stands for Nook Second Edition (this Nook came first).
Enjoy your Nook!
Hello Googie, Thanks a lot for your answer, they helped me a lot!
For sure I'll do the backup at frst.
Am I able to use N2E from the development forum on the NST? (like touchnooter?)
So, it's safe to update to 1.1.2 and root it? Because I have seen a few people on this forum complaning about bugs with a rooted 1.1.2, which aren't there with a rooted 1.1.0, such as that the search function is not working in the play stote with a rooted 1.1.2.
Would you recommend touch nooter or minimal touch?
Draygon said:
Am I able to use N2E from the development forum on the NST? (like touchnooter?)
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The N2E is simply another name for NST, so it's safe to use anything with that name.
Draygon said:
So, it's safe to update to 1.1.2 and root it? Because I have seen a few people on this forum complaning about bugs with a rooted 1.1.2, which aren't there with a rooted 1.1.0, such as that the search function is not working in the play stote with a rooted 1.1.2.
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There's not much difference between 1.1.2 and 1.1.0. B&N just addressed some WiFi issues with this update, not much has changed otherwise. And Google caused the searching issues by replacing Market with Google Play, it's just coincidence that the update came out when Google changed it.
Draygon said:
Would you recommend touch nooter or minimal touch?
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I myself use Minimal Touch, but I haven't tried TouchNooter before. TouchNooter has some extra things with it (like a tool that under-clocks the CPU when it's not in use to save battery), but some times it fails to install correctly. And there's also the possibility that Market just won't work for 24 hours... but it's broken anyway.
Thanks again for the answers.
There's just one problem I have, which won't let me backup my NST:
From this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983
I want to use the guide to backup the NST for windows 7 (post #2),
There's a big problem: the link to the noogie.img (which should be here: http://nookdevs.com/NookTouch_Rooting) was deleted.
1. Where can I get this noogie.img now? Could someone please upload it?
2. And the next problem is, how do I boot the noogie.img, if I have it? jocala just wrote, that you have to boot it. Not, how to boot it.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.thoughtsofthemasses.com/noogie.img.gz
burn the image it to sdcard, switch off your nook, plug in sdcard and turn nook on.
And small puzzle at the end: what does following message say about the nookdev page?
10:50, 11 January 2012 Spec (Talk | contribs) deleted "NookTouch Rooting" (content was: '#REDIRECT Nook_Simple_Touch/Rooting/Manual')
Are there any requirements that a microSD card must fill when used for this purpose? I have two fail notches on my lipstick case.
The first time I pulled a 256mb microSD card from an old phone; fail. Later I read it is recommended to use a Class 6 or greater. I bought a Class 10. Again, fail.
The adapter is electrically passive so that should not be a factor, right?
I never pay attention to that class stuff.
I always buy the Micro Center brand 4GB at $5.50 because they are only $1.50 more than 2GB.
Apparently they are Class 4.
Thank you, Renate NST. Then my problem lies elsewhere.
Between WinImage and Win32DiskImager has either shown a higher success rate for this project? Is one generally preferred by the community?
I use Win32DiskImager.
I've got about 10 different backups on my hard drive right now.
I've bricked my Nook multiple times trying to hack internals and restored from backup.
My backups end up by being 1,957,616,640 in size.
I don't use Clockwork or anything.
Thank you for providing the file size, that was helpful.
Is it odd that that the second backup (using noogie.img and DiskImage_1_6_WinAll.exe) was almost twenty-five times larger than the first? 79,675,392 verses 1,958,739,968.
If your backups are about 1.9xx Gigs then you are correctly backing up the entire physical internal memory of the Nook.
If your backups are 70 Megs or so you are either backing up only one of the 7 partitions on the Nook or
else you are backing up your SD card with Noogie on it.
Note:
After writing a Noogie image to an SD card you will find that the total size of the SD card has been reduced to 70 Megs or so.
To reclaim the entire size of the SD card for other uses you will need some tool like Partition Magic.
Windows Disk Management can not by itself repartition SD cards.
There's also something out there called SD formatter.
Or once you have your Nook running, you can just format it from that.
You have all been so very helpful. After watching the noob video I figured you people ate noobs for lunch.
Renate, you were right: I backed up the SD card. I hate to think of all the others who have done the same and won’t know the backup is useless until they need it. It’s an easy mistake to make but knowing an approximate file size was an excellent deterrent against disaster. Thanks for the heads up.
The rest was pure voodoo but I’m rooted. Still, there were some surprises and I have two final questions.
• Between failed rooting attempts, while in original mode, I updated the NS2 to 1.1.2. After rooting the device is using 1.1.0. Should I look for a way to root into 1.1.2 or just be content?
• Also while in original mode I wanted to change the registered gmail account for the device. I created a second B&N account using my preferred gmail, then did an “Erase and Deregister” to reregistered the device with the preferred gmail account. However, after rooting I couldn’t log into YouTube with my reregistered, preferred gmail, only the first gmail was accepted. Yet, when looking in Settings\Device Info\About Your Nook\Owner, my preferred gmail (not the first gmail) is listed. How do I get the rooted Nook to recognize my preferred gmail address in the market?
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Hey NOOKERS!
Got my wife a nook for Mothers Day. Had to fly out of the country the next day and never got around to doing more than charge it up for her.
She does not want to touch it until I can "hack" it to allow it to be an android tablet with both B&N books and Kindle, plus of course all the web browsing / music playing stuff.
I'm fairly comfortable, having messed with both my Samsung Moment and my Epic too.
But -
Is there a guide? Step by Step to go from a STOCK 1.2 device to Cyanogenmod7, and then back again if she hates it and I need to return it?
Interested in getting an answer on this too, particularly if there is a way to reverting back to stock, even tho I already rooted with manual nooter then flashed CM7.....
And so I guess... we WAIT.
Bigjohn_S said:
And so I guess... we WAIT.
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Getting back to stock should be as simple as building a CWR bootable SD card with one of these images:
http://mrm3.net/nook-color-updated-clockwork-recovery-bootable-sd/
Then booting into CWR, formatting the applicable partitions, flashing the stock 1.2 Rom that's been posted in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
Now, I'm pretty new to this stuff, but I think that should work. I installed Phiremod on my NC this weekend following the above procedure.
Thanks for the links, and I'll surly look at them - but I can't afford an "I think it should work".
I need steps that WILL work (unless I pour coffee into it while I'm doing the process...)
You should install CM7 on a bootable SD card. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
If you don't like it, remove the card, and you are back to stock.
Bigjohn_S said:
Thanks for the links, and I'll surly look at them - but I can't afford an "I think it should work".
I need steps that WILL work (unless I pour coffee into it while I'm doing the process...)
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Post #4 from my second link gives instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13200403&postcount=4
Basically same thing I told you.
Ok. trying it from an SD card.
Question - if I want to go ahead and Root/Install this to the NOOK itself, can I somehow keep all the setup that wife does to the OS on the SD card?
I can wright a guild tonight some time and post it up I have done this a ton of times back and forth from 1.2/cm7 and dual booting cm7 and 1.2 lol my nook has been all over the place... lol I'm a flashaholic
Thanks to all who contributed!!!
n0xx187 said:
I can wright a guild tonight some time and post it up I have done this a ton of times back and forth from 1.2/cm7 and dual booting cm7 and 1.2 lol my nook has been all over the place... lol I'm a flashaholic
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Looking forward to seeing it!
Wife is loving it, but now I guess I want to take what she's been playing with and put it on the "device" instead of the SD card, so she can use the SD card to store music and other stuff.
But I really do need the "set it back to normal" capability too, so that if the damn thing messes up horribly some how I can get it warranty repaired. I just don't have that kind of free $ to "throw it away"...
@n0xx187 -
Any update on your little guide?
Thanks!
Hey amigo... just checkin in to see how that guide is coming!
I'm looking forward to seeing a guide as well since I've forgotten the steps I took with my Nook pre-1.2, and am ready to install CM7 on a Nook for my friend.
For instructions on how to install CM7 on your internal drive in the Nook (EMMC):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Also contains a link to the directions to restore your nook to stock 1.2 (there is a different guide for previous revs, but you said 1.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
The two zips linked there differ in that 1 uninstalls CWM assuming you have it flashed to EMMC, and the other doesn't.
I've used both guides (installed CM7 to EMMC, reverted to stock 1.2 and removed CWM, installed a different nightly of CM7, etc) and they are straightforward and take you every step of the way as long as you understand the terminology involved (emmc vs SD) and can follow directions without skipping steps.
If you are wanting to dual boot that is a completely different beast and there are threads for it in the Development sub-forum here.
Just a caveat - you won't be able to use the B&N native ereader app in CM7, and the nook for android app is having some issues right now that haven't been corrected yet (menu insensitivity, some people report that syncing to their library is failing), so if that's important to your wife that's a consideration vs rooting stock B&N (that in and of itself has issues just like any of the roms for the Nook Color, you can read up on them in their own threads (manual nooter, mini nooter, autonooter, etc))
angomy said:
For instructions on how to install CM7 on your internal drive in the Nook (EMMC):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Also contains a link to the directions to restore your nook to stock 1.2 (there is a different guide for previous revs, but you said 1.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
The two zips linked there differ in that 1 uninstalls CWM assuming you have it flashed to EMMC, and the other doesn't.
I've used both guides (installed CM7 to EMMC, reverted to stock 1.2 and removed CWM, installed a different nightly of CM7, etc) and they are straightforward and take you every step of the way as long as you understand the terminology involved (emmc vs SD) and can follow directions without skipping steps.
If you are wanting to dual boot that is a completely different beast and there are threads for it in the Development sub-forum here.
Just a caveat - you won't be able to use the B&N native ereader app in CM7, and the nook for android app is having some issues right now that haven't been corrected yet (menu insensitivity, some people report that syncing to their library is failing), so if that's important to your wife that's a consideration vs rooting stock B&N (that in and of itself has issues just like any of the roms for the Nook Color, you can read up on them in their own threads (manual nooter, mini nooter, autonooter, etc))
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Thanks. The wife has hundreds of KINDLE books, has yet to buy one from B&N. The purpose of this process is to enable BOTH on this cool little device.
And the "guide" we've been looking for is "How do I take what's installed on the flash card" (she's been using CM7 from a 2gb flash) and MOVE it to the EMMC. (and of course, return it to stock if something goes wrong in a horrible way.)
John
Bigjohn_S said:
Thanks. The wife has hundreds of KINDLE books, has yet to buy one from B&N. The purpose of this process is to enable BOTH on this cool little device.
And the "guide" we've been looking for is "How do I take what's installed on the flash card" (she's been using CM7 from a 2gb flash) and MOVE it to the EMMC. (and of course, return it to stock if something goes wrong in a horrible way.)
John
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Ah, I had read your OP and assumed things hadn't changed (my bad, read further down and saw that you installed CM7 to SD).
In this case, you could use Titanium Backup to back up all the apps + app data and restore them to the new install on EMMC - I wouldn't back up system data however. It would require minimal re-setup (cyanogenmod settings, some system settings) but would retain launcher settings (desktop, status bar, dock, etc) because the app info would be saved in a backup. You would have to copy separate user data manually (e.g., transferring folders in USB storage mode to your PC and back to your Nook after installing CM7).
I do not know if a nandroid backup / restore would work if you are switching from CM7 SD to EMMC. I prefer using TiBu since youc an choose to transfer only apps + app data on a fresh CM7 install.
dsf3g said:
Now, I'm pretty new to this stuff, but I think that should work. I installed Phiremod on my NC this weekend following the above procedure.
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If you're running a NOOK Color with 1.2, didn't you run into "error formatting /data"? If so, how did you get past it?
Mine came with the original 1.1 firmware., which I updated to 1.2 from the downloaded file...
but I am hearing things about re-partitioning and things on new ones... does that impact "upgraded" ones?
I just started a wiki here
USB Host mode
I am hoping that you who actually know how to do it would help develop a set of instructions that are simple enough for a literate, adventurous non-tech (like me) to follow.
UPDATE: The wiki now has a complete list of installation instructions. You'll have to hunt through verygreen's thread below for operating instructions till they organized on the wiki.
The wiki and this thread (where noobs like me can post) are based on verygreen's
[WIP] USB Host support (working)
I asked verygreen and ros87 to do the USB Host mode for the Nook Simple Touch. Verygreen announced success within 48 hours. The hack has gotten whipped into shape there with the amazing help of ros87, Renate NST, mali100, and other superb xda people.
The project started at mobileread.com:
Project: E-Paper Tablet (touch-typable!)
Thanks to fellow mobilereaders for support, especially Kumabjorn, poliorcetes, and nealsharmon for donating money for devices.
The wiki is super rough. It assumes a new device in the box and a non-tech user. I started the instructions to show how simple they need to be. I will continue helping with that because it does seem difficult for techs to believe just how lost we can be with this stuff. My goal is to bridge the gap between techs and literate users so that non-programmers who want to type on the NST can. If you are an expert writer of users manuals, maybe you would help, too.
Honestly, I don't know the first thing to do now that my NST is on and registered. For example, I don't even know if I need to:
root the NST first
install adb (which I also don't know about)
or what. I have studied the thread, so I will be familiar with the terms. But I'm completely clueless about actually doing the hack. I managed to unbox my refurbished NST, update its software to 1.1.2 and install a microSD card. The issue is, what exactly should be done now? Please leave your answers in the wiki! Thank you!
I would say the best way to start is from eded333's Minimal Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748 . That gives you a nice system with market and a launcher to install and start your texteditor or writing apps.
If I find some time i will create a small update-package that installs all the necessary things for the usb-host mode.
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
andrewed said:
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
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1.1.2 is fine. You can still use eded333's MinimalTouch to root it and get a launcher.
Awesome. Will dive in, then!
As promised I created a small update package, to install all the necessary files and tools.
It is installable via Clockwork Recovery in the same way as eded333's MinimalTouch, which should be installed first, to get root, a launcher and a working Market.
Requirements:
Software version 1.1 or 1.1.2 (1.1.2 is recommended, as it fixes WLAN issues)
root, a launcher and working market (I recommend using eded333's MinimalTouch)
What it does:
changes the kernel to NST-kernel v0.1 with USB-Host and multitouch support
changes the uRamdisk to a uRamdisk with fixed init (needed for USB Input devices) and adb-usb
installs the busybox and sqlite binaries
adds the permission node for multitouch to /etc/permissions/required_hardware.xml
installs the app UsbMode-1.2 and the NullKbd-1.1 by Renate NST
adds the permission to enable the NullKbd
changes the qwerty.kl and qwerty.kcm.bin to the remapped one by Renate NST
installs the NookColorTools, so you can switch to the NullKbd
DISCLAMER and WARNING:
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, lost data, fried USB-Devices. Make a backup before you try anything described here!
USB-Host support is still WIP (work in progress), the battery drain is noticeable higher.
this is the first release and only tested by myself, so don't expect it to be bulletproof.
Credits go to:
verygreen, ros87 and everybody who helped with the USB-Host mode,
Renate NST, for all the effort making USB-Host support userfriendly (USB-Mode app, NullKbd, key remapping, testing),
wheilitjohnny and arkusuma for the Multitouch support,
eded333, for his great MinimalTouch,
Download:
usb-host-mt-pack_0.1.zip
Thanks, mali100.
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
Renate NST said:
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
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Nice easter-egg didn't noticed this before. Thanks
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
andrewed said:
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
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I'm using a 4G class 2 micro SD card for NOOGIE and it's fine.
where to?
Hi where to put content of META-INF? (dont wanna root again...)
mrWax said:
Hi where to put content of META-INF?
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The META-INF folder contains the insallation script and the interpreter for the script, they are used by CWM to install the package and not copied to the nook.
(dont wanna root again...)
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If you mean that your device isn't rooted, and you don't want to, then I have to tell you that root is needed to switch between usb-host mode and peripheral-mode, so root is mandatory.
If you mean your device is already rooted and you don't want to redo it, then don't worry, this package doesn't contain files that root the nook.
I had already rooted my nook another way...now what?
Friends,
I rooted my Nook using the instructions here (SalsichaNooter):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05Y7C9a4eU
I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions. I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
I really would like to get a keyboard working on my Nook and feel like I'm so close.
nealsharmon said:
I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions.
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You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
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That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
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This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
thank you
Thanks for your input. I will try the process you suggested.
It worked!
mali100 said:
You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
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I followed your instructions and it worked. Thank you very much.
Still Not working
I'm very new at this.
I have followed the above directions and patched with usb-host-mt-pack_0.1 successfully but my two USB keyboards are still not working.
I originally rooted my nook using TouchNooter 2.1.31.
I am using an OTG cable and am getting the solid green light after turning off current and selecting Host.
When i plug either keyboard (or bluetooth dongle for that matter) State changes from a_idle to a_host.
Other results:
Keyboard: none
all fields below that are blank.
Any suggestions on how i should proceed? Could this just be a matter of the keyboards not being compatible? What are the recommended keyboards?
Many thanks!
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
Renate NST said:
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
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Thank you, Renate. That worked great. My Bluetooth is working and I'm using my apple wireless keyboard to word process. My arrow keys don't work so I have to do some touching or backspacing to edit in google documents.
I have a chronic case of CVS (eye condition). This is really gonna help me. Do you recommend a stand with space at the bottom for the cord?
Thank you so much!
Stand? I love mine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661902
You can use either a desk stand or the little bendy tripod.
The arrow keys should work, but they get rotated when in landscape mode.
There is a mod to make them not rotate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30260821&highlight=keyinputqueue#post30260821
Hey Guys...
I'm about to buy a Nook. Cause I'm really in need to have a good ebook reader...
And I want to know if hacking and Android Developement for Nook simple Touch with Glow-edge (NTG) is progressed as much as Nook Simple Touch (NST)'s...
Are there any advantages for NST comparing with NTG in hacking?
For example is there any custom roms available for NST which is not available for NTG?
or, Is usb-host method working for NTG too?
I'll be Thankful if some one guides me...
Salar.m said:
Hey Guys...
I'm about to buy a Nook. Cause I'm really in need to have a good ebook reader...
And I want to know if hacking and Android Developement for Nook simple Touch with Glow-edge (NTG) is progressed as much as Nook Simple Touch (NST)'s...
Are there any advantages for NST comparing with NTG in hacking?
For example is there any custom roms available for NST which is not available for NTG?
or, Is usb-host method working for NTG too?
I'll be Thankful if some one guides me...
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I bought the NST a few days ago. From what I can tell, pretty much the same hacking options are available for NST and NTG. For example, the custom kernel that I installed, which enables multitouch and fastmode, (see the thread by guevor) is available for both NST and NTG.
Both devices are pretty hackable.
Be very, very careful that
1) you make a full (~2 gig) backup of your device before you start;
2) you are completely comfortable with restoring that backup - test on an SD card to be sure that you can restore and wind up with 8 partitions on that card -- I've seen folks retore from a viable backup, and accidentally restore only 1 partition, and that's a problem
3) any hacks you try are for the correct device.
Most tools are device specific. The two I threw together, tinynoot and fat glowworm, actually do work on both devices (and tinynoot, with a trivial mod, works on the Nook Color as well, it's what I used to re-root after the last OTA that I was too slow to block.)
If you use an NST tool on an NSTG you will very likely need to restore to stock and start over. 8 failed boots will get you out of most jams, but when it won't, you need to be sure you can restore your disk image.
Tnx Guys...
but, would you plz link me to a step-by-step guide page...? (for backup)
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So as you said, there will be no problems in hacking and custom mods for me if I buy a NTG... huh?
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if I'm not wrong, NTG's NAND is partitioned to 8 different disk partitions by default... and they keep all of (roms, etc.) data which I have to make an image of it to have them all saved and backuped... Right?
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And for the last Q.
Is a microSDHC 16GB class 2 compatible with NTG...?
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Tnx,
Peace,...
Yes, eight partitions. Complete backup and restore instructions are in this thread. Not sure about class 2 mSD, but I expect it would be fine. The device will handle up to 32GB.
Actually, I think it's a poor idea for us to link to a specific post or posts on this topic.
Enough people have mucked up their devices by not doing their research that I would strongly recommend that you read through the threads yourself before you put your device at risk.
The device does have 8 partitions; the simplest way to get a full backup is to use linux, either as a physical machine or in vmware player (which has excellent USB support)
Terms you should be hip to before you start:
- partition
- noogie
- clockwork
- framework.jar
and of course, OS versioning, so if someone's referring to a 1.2 release you're already aware of which device that was intended for.
I apologize if I sound unhelpful, but I think what you find out on your own will always be more valuable so that when something works strangely, you know where you first read about it and can drill in for more.
the development area is definitely worth reading even if you're not developing.
the links you asked for
for NSTGL
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
The main difference, is that Nook Touch Tools is working on NST but not NSTGL
so on the NST you can map your QuickNav buttons to the app of your choice, but not in NSTGL
LK, please don't take this the wrong way, but this is why I wouldn't want to point to only a few sources:
Your post refers to the Glow.
The first link refers to both the Glow and the Touch
The second link refers only to the Glow
It's that device confusion that makes me want folks to really understand the landscape before they start into it.
I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
There are at least two methods that work with the Glowworm.
You should not use any method until after you have
- made a noogie disk
- booted from it
- backed up your device
- restored that backup to a test disk (a 2 gig or larger microSD card, for instance) and confirmed that the test results in a disk that has 8 partitions.
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore seems to be only getting one partition restored and blowing out the other partitions.
I don't know if the stuff that eded is working on has come to fruition yet - he was looking at building a tool that could detect whether it was run on an NST or NSTG and root appropriately to the device.
The two routes I know work are:
- glownooter, the nooter project tool, includes Google apps and market support
- tinynoot, pasted together from various tools, gives you minimal root without google apps and with amazon appstore. Will work with either NST or NSTG because it's approach is so minimalist.
Thanks, roustabout! I will be sure to test the backups before I install anything else, then. Good to know!
In any case, what I am most concerned about is getting the right version of the rooting software for my device. I see that Nook devices have different firmware and that certain tools only work with certain firmware versions. I see no mention of my firmware version in any tools' websites, hence my apprehension.
hence the value of a backup
I saw your request on that and I think one of the issues here is that so many folks use Windows exclusively, and the backup process is so easy on linux that trying to tell people how to do it in Windows is like jabbing yourself in the eye with a stick, given that linux is free, vmware player is free, and linux can be installed and used for this job entirely in vmware player. On the other side of the coin, if you know nothing of linux, even using dd correctly will be a challenge since there's a pretty steep learning curve behind setting up a new OS successfully just to be able to get backups off an 80-130 dollar device.
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
I didn't mention it, but I also use Linux at home (Kubuntu, like Ubuntu but with a better UI). So many people are now using Ubuntu that I find it surprising that the instructions even bother mentioning the OSes for which the operation is as difficult as you say. I remember when doing things in Linux was hard and Windows was easy, and at that time Linux was hardly ever mentioned!
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
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I did not realize that the 1.1.5 release is glowlight-only. Great, thanks, I'm on to hacking this thing!
ok, so for you the backup process is:
- make the noogie disk
- put it into your device
- power cycle your device
- when it boots to "rooted forever," connect the USB cable to your linux box
- once the linux box mounts the NSTG as storage, pay attention to which device it is mounting it at. Assuming it's sdX:
- backup with dd if=/dev/sdX of=backup.img bs=1M
When that's done, disconnect your NSTG, throw media of some sort, larger than 2G, onto your box and test your restore with
dd if=backup.img of=/dev/sdY bs=1M
Once that's done, do an
fdisk /dev/sdY
and a
p to print the partition table.
You should have 8 partitions (and your backup.img file should be just under 2 gig.)
Hack away; if you ever need to restore, you can just drop the virgin image back on.
I take a snapshot like this of my device every so often since remembering how I got to whatever config I liked is harder than just backing it up.
Thanks for the backup instructions, the idea of testing it on a DVD-ROM looks to save quite a bit of trouble with the actual device..
I rooted with this terrific guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
The process was simple. I do have an issue where I need to install a Hebrew font but ES File Manager doesn't seem to see the root folders. I'm having a hard time googling my way out of this one, bu all the other little issues were fairly simple.
One issue that I will mention that was hard to solve was the inability to perform searches in the Market. This page helped me resolve that issue:
blog.the-ebook-reader . com/2011/07/15/rooted-nook-touch-fixing-market-search-and-other-tips-and-tricks-video/
I just figured out that the file manager has to have Root permissions enabled. I've enabled it and added some fonts to /system/fonts but I still cannot get Hebrew text to display on this device. All I get are the typical rectangles instead of characters. Any ideas about how to proceed?
Thanks.
Restore Nook 1.1.2
roustabout said:
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore .
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1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
bubblewrapper said:
1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
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Few people who will be knowledgeable will find your post buried here under this thread. i suggest that you simply start a new thread with a good descriptive title so that the gurus will find it.
Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
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Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
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Actually, I think that I just need the fonts (or at least that would be a great first step). I put fonts with Hebrew glyphs in /system/fonts (using ES File Explorer in Root mode) but even after a restart it does not find the fonts (i.e. Hebrew text still shows as rectangles). I will fight with it some more in the coming days, if I don't succeed I will start a new, concise thread on the topic. There are plenty of Google posts on the subject, but all of the ones that I have seen (not Nook-specific) suggest that dropping the fonts is /system/fonts should be enough. Perhaps it is a permissions issue, I'll see if I can SSH into the device to see permissions.
dotancohen said:
I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
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Sorry that I am so slow to respond, but I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
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Sorry that I am so slow to respond,
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Thank you! You don't need to apologize for taking time to respond, you are under no obligation! But I very much do appreciate your assistance and am happy to wait patiently! You will notice that I usually google issues first to try to save us both the time!
I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
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Thank you. It seems that those posts are Windows-centric summerizations of information found here at XDA-developers. The root is pretty much the process that I used, but from the guide right here which has Linux directions as well.
By the way, the-ebook-reader site is often not responding for me. Is it just for me, or does everyone have trouble with that site?
Thanks!
version 1.2.0
UK glowlight ships with 1.2.0. Use tinynooter to root this. You may have issues installing apps atm though but you will get the browser at least.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961835
Thanks, Loney. In fact, I got this Glowlight in the US, and it reports that it has software verion 1.1.5. But the information will be good for others who might google this thread!
Hello all ...
Please .. I need some advice..
This is my first post. My sister has given me her Nook Simple Touch Glowlight. I would like to root it, as I've been looking for a device to keep notes and stuff on. I went as far as booting up with noogie.img and backing up the firmware. I don't know what to do, because I read that having a certain firmware changes everything? I don't think my sister updated the nook. Here is the information from the Settings / Device Info / About Your Nook.
Software Version: 1. 1. 5
Model Number: BNRV350
I read someplace that the sizes of the firmwares are different. The simple touch is 1. 82 and the simple touch glow is 1. 86.
Mine is 1 .82, but yet it has the glowlight? It says to hold the button down for two seconds to turn it on.
I see that B&N have new firmware for the nst & nstg. 1. 3 I believe. It said on the site that this firmware would be installed when the nook is idle. (via wifi) Anyway, I'm wondering if it would be ok to go ahead and root the thing, or upgrade the firmware first to maybe - 1. 2 (if I can find it?) before I do anything else? Oh and should I stay away from B&N's new 1. 3 firmware?
Thank You Very Much !!
WillyS.......
If you indeed have the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight (black bezel), then the most recent stock firmware is 1.2.1 which can be downloaded here. I would recommend that you update to this as the first thing you do. Next you need to decide which of the multitude of rooting methods is best for you. You need to take into account what you wish to achieve by rooting the Nook and your skill/comfort level with the processes. I have followed many of the different processes, doing a factory reset between root versions. By far the easiest is Nook Manager. I, personally, prefer the Minimal rooting - back to basics method because it allows you to install just what YOU want. However, this method requires a fair amount of command line work.
EDIT: I made the assumption that you are in the US and have a US model. I believe there is a different firmware number for the international model. In any case, you should update the Nook to the most recent firmware before rooting.
Rooting nook .. Glowlight ..
Hello David and Thank You kindly for the reply!
Yes, mine is a Canadian version and it has the black bezel.
Thank you .. for correcting me on the firmware. I was looking at the wrong Nook version. (nook.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086)
I downloaded the correct 1. 2. firmware for the nook and I (like you) would rather install what I want to and have more control over what gets put on it. After I update the firmware, I'll come back and follow the links you provided. If you know what threads have the latest / newest info on rooting the nstg, can you please point me to it? (If you haven't already) Thank You Very Much for your help .. David.
Cheers
WS
You're welcome. If you are comfortable with a lot of manual, command line manipulation, start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics thread. There are many more and newer rooting methods, but each of them installs a bunch of apps that the creators use, which may or may not be of importance to you. If you start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics, you can then pick and choose the apps and modifications you want to apply to give you the best experience for YOUR needs. I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
Rooting Nook STG .. Firmware 1. 2 ...
Hi David and Thank You for the reference document.
Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
I'm at the rooting - back to basics thread. I'm going to read all this stuff over and see if I can figure it all out. Thanks again for your help and the document.
WS...
WillySizard said:
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Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
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Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
Don't really know where to go from here, or what to do ..
@ digixmax .. Thank You for the info on the SD-card. Good to know info!
@ david0226 .. I went to the page about rooting via the link and I have basic
understanding how / what needs to be done, but I'm not having much
luck finding and using the tools. I went and looked for the file used to
extract the 2 files from uRamdisk, but I couldn't find it. I did some reading
and looking around and found a program called Preboot (I think) by
Intel and it contained bootutil 32/64 and so on. I had to install preboot & then
uninstall it, to get bootutil and then install it. I tried using it to extract
the files, but I kept getting failed messages. Like invalid switch /x.
Invalid switch /v. Invalid file uRamdisk. I know I need to extract out 2
files: init.rc and default.prop. I tried to do so in the "Administrative Command
Window" on Win7_64bit, but it just wouldn't work with bootutil. Not the
one I had anyway. Any ideas? Thanks!
WillyS......
David0226 said:
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I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
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What extensions does "Extended Power Menu" provide?
Also, which uImage and uRamdisk do you use as uRecImg and uRecRAM?
TIA.
Here are the links to the relevant threads.
Extended Power Menu
Clockworkmod based Recovery post #75, see the entire thread here.
If you are going to do the Extended Power Menu, be sure to do the Clockworkmod based Recovery also or you risk wiping out everything you have done by accidentally hitting recovery in the Extended Power Menu. I you have installed Clockworkmod Recovery and accidentally hit "Recovery", it will just boot to Clockworkmod and give you a chance to back out.
@willys. I will have to look up the software I use and post tomorrow. Sorry I missed your question earlier.
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
David0226 said:
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
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Yes, I had to go to her profile and I found it there. I'll do this part first and see how it goes. After that (I think?) I need to get an android program (some kind of Installer maybe?) to do some other work with. Anyway, one step at a time. All for now. Thanks! ... WS.
digixmax said:
Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
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Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
Almost done, but need a little more help . . .
Mnurlan said:
Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
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OK .. Thank You Mnurlan!
@David0226 ...
Just getting to the point where I'm ready to add programs. have edited uRamdisk and re-installed the two files. I've download android-sdk package and have installed it. I have been in the nook via wifi using ndb shell as root. I am now following your notes file. I've created the archive folder on the nook - /system/archive and I've been moving files over from /system/apps folder. I got Nook Manager written to the sd-card and I have PackageInstaller.adk from it, but I I'm not sure how I get that onto the nook. When I boot with NookManager, it ask if I want to root. I have already done that and it is working. Should I let it do it anyway?
Thank You!
WillySizard . . . .
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
Nook Simple Touch Glowlight .. Need advice before rooting ..
David0226 said:
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
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Ahhh .. ok. Good enough then. That should get me off and running.
Thank You .. David. Sorry I'm being such a pest.
Me, also
Just paid $5 for a BNRV350 at a rummage sale.
I understand BN disabled the web browser with the current operating system.
I can get a Google search window (by repeated tapping on the "Google" or maybe the "404" or the "that's all" links that appear when I try the "connect to social" settings menu choice for Google. And "find my account" worked when given the Gmail userid (because the keypad on the Nook lacks a period for typing a proper email address, in this view).
And I can get a Twitter login page. Neither works well -- typing even a single letter into the password field resets the page, so it's letter, then tap in the field window, then another letter, then tap in the field window. Sometimes it shows a row of dots for characters already entered, other times those are invisible but the entries are still there.
Just curious to add to the above fellow's thread for anyone searching for this Nook model number, if anyone has advice or suggestions about making it useful.
Reverting to the original OS to have use of the web browser would be a welcome option, if that's possible. Pointers welcome. Right now this Nook has version 1.1.5 installed -- I gather that's one of the improved versions that killed the stock web browser.