Updating from JB 20120806(eppy) to 11.10 - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I tried to update from from Eppy's JB 20120806 version.
I have a green lens MB525.
I believe I am running BL5. I think I used cm7.1.0-RC0-jordan-signed as my original SBF.
Up until this ROM I have had no problems updating from GB-ICS-JB.
After wiping cache & dalvik I installed the 11/10 version. All goes well and the boot changes to 2ndBoot.
I get Red moto logo, blue LED, then Red led then reboots or just stays with the red led and a blank screen.
Pulled the battery and I get the same.
I tried to load the 29/08 ROM and this did the same thing as well.
Do I need to update to BL6 or something?
I have returned the phone to the pre flashed state using the backup. So all is still working ok.
Any ideas and thanks for your help
Regards
A noob

vast524 said:
Hi
I tried to update from from Eppy's JB 20120806 version.
I have a green lens MB525.
I believe I am running BL5. I think I used gncm7.1.0-RC0-jordan-sied as my original SBF.
Up until this ROM I have had no problems updating from GB-ICS-JB.
After wiping cache & dalvik I installed the 11/10 version. All goes well and the boot changes to 2ndBoot.
I get Red moto logo, blue LED, then Red led then reboots or just stays with the red led and a blank screen.
Pulled the battery and I get the same.
I tried to load the 29/08 ROM and this did the same thing as well.
Do I need to update to BL6 or something?
I have returned the phone to the pre flashed state using the backup. So all is still working ok.
Any ideas and thanks for your help
Regards
A noob
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You just have to wait for it to boot. The screen goes blank when the LED switched from blue to red on my phone, too, but then it comes back on after some time, with the bootanimation. At first boot I think that lasted for maybe even 20 seconds. Much shorter on later boots.
But that couldn't have happened with the 29th of August build... Maybe you left your phone set to boot from 2ndboot, while that built is supposed to work by booting from 2ndInit?
P.S. cm7.1.0-RC0-jordan-signed is not an SBF file, it's a custom ROM that comes in a flashable zip. SBF files are in .sbf format silly and are flashed to the phone from the PC via RSDlite. Just so you know!

niksy+ said:
You just have to wait for it to boot. The screen goes blank when the LED switched from blue to red on my phone, too, but then it comes back on after some time, with the bootanimation. At first boot I think that lasted for maybe even 20 seconds. Much shorter on later boots.
But that couldn't have happened with the 29th of August build... Maybe you left your phone set to boot from 2ndboot, while that built is supposed to work by booting from 2ndInit?
P.S. cm7.1.0-RC0-jordan-signed is not an SBF file, it's a custom ROM that comes in a flashable zip. SBF files are in .sbf format silly and are flashed to the phone from the PC via RSDlite. Just so you know!
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Hi and thanks for the reply and help.
I left the phone on for about 10 minutes with only the red led on. There seemed to be no activity.
I did not check to see if the boot was set back to 2ndinit. Can try that.
I found this file 3.4.2_177-005_NORDIC it is a SBF. I may have used this to start with after rooting. It was over 14mths ago.
Regards
Update. Tried to install 2409 Rom and made sure that I wiped the cache & dalvik. Also checked that it was set to 2ndinit.
Still looped. So am unsure what is going on. Rather frustrating.

Hi, flash your sbf, then 2init and then flash your cm you want.
Gesendet von meinem MB526

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[Q] DEFY wont power up, only a white led shows

I flashed my Defy with froyo, then installed CM7, i charged it to 20% battery and turned it on. All worked fine for a couple of minutes, but afterwards it started restarting every 30 secs, So i tried flashing it again with the Chinese froyo (I'm from Israel, if it matters), but without charging the battery back to full, Which means I started flashing with about 15% battery.
I finished flashing rsdlite wrote "pass" and everything but the defy wouldn't power up, it just shows white led whenever i plug it to my PC. rsdlite recognized it in the first couple of hours and i tried flashing froyo again and again, but after a while even rsdlite didn't recognize it anymore.
I read a thread here that said that the phone doesn't charge in boot mode, and i thought that might be the problem, so i took out the battery and charged it at a phone store for about 15 minutes, then tried to turn it on but still no powering up. So now I have a defy that doesn't power up and isn't even recognized by rsdlite.
I'm hopeless, I loved my defy very much, and I really need an clue.
I'll do anything!
Thanks for reading this far, I hope you can help me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026 maybe this will help
Tried it, didn't work, I also tried to charge the battery already so I think its not just a dead battery problem, its probably more than that.
Hi there and welcome to the forums. You didn't mentioned which was the base OS you've had on your Defy before installing CM7, but I'll assume you have had a Froyo version, maybe the stock one (please provide more details).
If you flashed nordic SBF before installing CM7 or if you had official Froyo on your phone then you won't be able to Flash the leaked Chinese Froyo. It has some partitions with version code -2- like Eclair, whereas the nordic ROM has the code -4- and therefore it's not possible to directly downgrade by applying the Chinese SBF.
To revive your Defy you must charge your battery (at least 50% to be sure it will have enough juice and will last the whole process), then start it in stock recovery (Vold Down+ Power and then by pressing both volume buttons when the android with exclamation mark appears) and wipe data+cache. After this step you can start your phone in bootloader mode (Vol Up + Power) and flash again the initial ROM you had right before installing CM7.
you are from israel right?
why you choose chinese froyo for god sake?
some chinese froyo sbf is intended only for different DEFY (ME525) / Chinese Defy, and normal Defy is MB525.
it could damage your flashlight and phone.
use sbf from central europe froyo for best result installing CM7.
thanks guys, I charged the battery, got rsdlite to recognize the phone, and flashed a UK sbf, now its back on, working, and showing that motoblur animation.
I guess now all that's left is to install a 2.1 OS and everything should work.
(Please correct if I got this wrong, since I AM a noob and i really don't want to make another mistake)
THANKS ALOT!
If you flashed a full Froyo SBF then you cannot install Eclair SBF. It's not possible to directly downgrade after you have flashed Froyo using a full SBF. However you can easily flash a Froyo official ROM or... why not CM7 or MIUI.
Thing is... I already flashed 2.1, and got it to the point where it shows me the M logo. but it didn't go any further than that. i tried flashing a 2.3.3 ROM, same thing happens, M logo but nothing more. right now im back to this version of 2.2:
p3_jordan_umts_jordan-user-2.2.1-3.4.2-107_JDN-4-000000-release-keys-signed-T-Mobile-US.sbf
and I'm getting an animation of Motoblur with nothing else.
flaah nordic sbf then go to cm7. Follow the guide read first cm7 faq before proceeding
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
All you do is flashing.. Have you actually do total wipe in recovery? Since you're having the motoblur animation splash screen, it is obviously your previous data is conflicting while the phone is trying to boot normally..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
farsight73 said:
All you do is flashing.. Have you actually do total wipe in recovery? Since you're having the motoblur animation splash screen, it is obviously your previous data is conflicting while the phone is trying to boot normally..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
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I believe you are right about wiping, I've bricked my phone to the point i couldn't turn the phone on. So all you usually have to do is flash the full sbf, when it tries to boot it gets stuck on the m logo, just pull the battery, power it up holding volume down wait for the the triangle and press the middle of the volume rocker and it will take you to the stock recovery. Wipe and factory rest, flash the sbf again.
wipe/factory reset didn't fix it, though I noticed nordic sbf got it to show the android animation.
is it possible that I need to install a rom after I flash an sbf? and if so, how can I install a rom (custom recovery doesn't give me an option to install a zip, only "update.zip").
do I install some sort of 2ndinit?
do I install a rom through "update.zip"?
sorry once again for another (hopefully last ) noobish questions.
The SBF is a full ROM so atfer flashing a SBF there is no need to put another ROM via recovery, unless you want to do so (let's say you'd like to install CM7 or MIUI). If you haven't flashed a 2.3.4 full SBF you should be able to revive your Defy using the nordic SBF. Try to download it again or try a different one (one of those official SBF's released this summer).
I did install a 2.3.4 full sbf, but it too didnt work, tried a factory reset + cache wipe, and reflashing the 2.3.4 and it's still stuck on the M logo
Ive done something stupidly wrong.. Help me please..
Ok Ive a me525 and I tried to flash my phone with JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANRTINT_P029_A018_HWp3_Service1FF
Was not sure what I was doing at that moment(just following a guide/tutorial on YouTube)After the whole progress with RSD lite, my device turned black as the title says with only showing a white led light. Was getting pretty deperate thinking about I had broken the phone.. :crying:
I have searched for a solution on the forums saw some people did get their device repeared, but everything they had done didnt worked for me..
So please help this boy in need.. We dont have lots of money to spare so buying a new phone isnt really a fast option..
p.s. Not sure though but would a chinese sbf work and where would I find one?

Defy wont boot!!!

Hi,
I was running CM10 on my defy and then i tried to update it with Quarx latest build and something went wrong....i was stuck at the motorola logo screen....
I used RSD Lite V5.3.1 to flash the stock rom to my defy and it still wont boot....its still stuck at the motorola logo....
Please help.....its booting only under the Bootloader mode (Power+Vol Up).....nothing else
Thanks
Shrewdy said:
Hi,
I was running CM10 on my defy and then i tried to update it with Quarx latest build and something went wrong....i was stuck at the motorola logo screen....
I used RSD Lite V5.3.1 to flash the stock rom to my defy and it still wont boot....its still stuck at the motorola logo....
Please help.....its booting only under the Bootloader mode (Power+Vol Up).....nothing else
Thanks
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Did you flash the correct sbf?
How long are you stuck at the Motorola logo? Give a bit more information =P
It's most likely not bricked as it's almost impossible to brick the defy.. (I've never heard of it)
Please help
pk92 said:
Did you flash the correct sbf?
How long are you stuck at the Motorola logo? Give a bit more information =P
It's most likely not bricked as it's almost impossible to brick the defy.. (I've never heard of it)
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Hi,
First i had upgraded to froyo and and used this link to get Gingerbread on my defy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285007
After that i installed many roms and the last one to be tried was CM10...which started all the problems...
I have now tried to flash rom from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386942
now it is booting up but now it is stuck with the animation screen....the phone actually does not start....
i know its something to do with the kernel but then i dont know which type of kernel to flash and how!!
Please help..
Let me know if you need any more information
Thank you....
Shrewdy said:
Hi,
First i had upgraded to froyo and and used this link to get Gingerbread on my defy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285007
After that i installed many roms and the last one to be tried was CM10...which started all the problems...
I have now tried to flash rom from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386942
now it is booting up but now it is stuck with the animation screen....the phone actually does not start....
i know its something to do with the kernel but then i dont know which type of kernel to flash and how!!
Please help..
Let me know if you need any more information
Thank you....
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Red or Green Lens? Defy or Defy+?
If Red Lens then you can use Defy or Defy+ build straight from Froyo after installing 2nd init.
If Red Lens Defy with Defy+ build, you will need a battery fix
If Red Lens Defy with Defy build, nothing else needs to be installed
If Green Lens Defy, you can only use Defy build. Nothing else needs to be installed.
If Defy+ You can only use defy build, nothing else needs to be installed.
Download the defy/defy+ builds here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
http://quarx2k.ru
There is also an SBF of CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691901
Thanks buddy
pk92 said:
Red or Green Lens? Defy or Defy+?
If Red Lens then you can use Defy or Defy+ build straight from Froyo after installing 2nd init.
If Red Lens Defy with Defy+ build, you will need a battery fix
If Red Lens Defy with Defy build, nothing else needs to be installed
If Green Lens Defy, you can only use Defy build. Nothing else needs to be installed.
If Defy+ You can only use defy build, nothing else needs to be installed.
Download the defy/defy+ builds here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
http://quarx2k.ru
There is also an SBF of CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691901
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i am downloading the CM10 sbf's for both Froyo and GB..
i will try to install each and will see which ones works for me....
Coz i have a defy and i think it is a red lense one.
But i had a GB kernel running on my defy....
I hope thinks get well with my defy....
Thanks, will update you as soon as something happens....
Nothing works
Shrewdy said:
i am downloading the CM10 sbf's for both Froyo and GB..
i will try to install each and will see which ones works for me....
Coz i have a defy and i think it is a red lense one.
But i had a GB kernel running on my defy....
I hope thinks get well with my defy....
Thanks, will update you as soon as something happens....
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All hopes going down... I have flashed these sbf's from the link your provided but nothing works !!
1. Froyo-cm-10,JB.Quarx.30.07.build.Defyred/green.bl4.fixed'sbf NEW
2. A.2.3.6-cm-10,JB.Quarx-30.07build-Defy+/red fixed'sbf cm-10 bootanimation New
Infact i get an error at the bootloader itself Err: A5,70,00,00,23 (wonder whats that)
There is only 1 sbf that boots it up....but then my defy keep looping on the blur animation and never boots up....
SBF that works the most i got it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
which was (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage Thread)
This works and atleast it sort of tries to boot up....
Also if i try to get into the recovery mode (Power + Vol Down)....i cannot see any options in recovery....just the small android exclamation image !!
Can you please help and get me atleast booted up till recovery ??
Thanks
Shrewdy said:
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All hopes going down... I have flashed these sbf's from the link your provided but nothing works !!
1. Froyo-cm-10,JB.Quarx.30.07.build.Defyred/green.bl4.fixed'sbf NEW
2. A.2.3.6-cm-10,JB.Quarx-30.07build-Defy+/red fixed'sbf cm-10 bootanimation New
Infact i get an error at the bootloader itself Err: A5,70,00,00,23 (wonder whats that)
There is only 1 sbf that boots it up....but then my defy keep looping on the blur animation and never boots up....
SBF that works the most i got it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
which was (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage Thread)
This works and atleast it sort of tries to boot up....
Also if i try to get into the recovery mode (Power + Vol Down)....i cannot see any options in recovery....just the small android exclamation image !!
Can you please help and get me atleast booted up till recovery ??
Thanks
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I believe that little android guy is the stock recovery. From what I remember you hold both volume buttons and it takes you into stock recovery.
Unfortunately, you will no longer have 2nd init installed, which allows for CWM recovery, so you can't flash a zip from there.
How long does it stay stuck on the blur logo? Maybe you're just not waiting long enough? (Stupid question I know, but some people complain after 2 minutes, the first boot can take a long time!)
Try looking at This thread and see if the link which is in this post will work to download the Taiwanese SBF. For me it doesn't seem to load
Edit: - Oh the Taiwanese SBF did eventually download. Took about 5 minutes with the tab open loading. I've uploaded it to my Dropbox so you can download from there... should be a bit faster!
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-33-1_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT15_P001_A013_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
(MD5 - 34E9A43EAB8D2FF6101536C4B3F104BD)
Note: This is Taiwanese, NOT CHINESE. The Chinese one burns out the flashlight and it cannot be used after that.
Still stuck
pk92 said:
I believe that little android guy is the stock recovery. From what I remember you hold both volume buttons and it takes you into stock recovery.
Unfortunately, you will no longer have 2nd init installed, which allows for CWM recovery, so you can't flash a zip from there.
How long does it stay stuck on the blur logo? Maybe you're just not waiting long enough? (Stupid question I know, but some people complain after 2 minutes, the first boot can take a long time!)
Try looking at This thread and see if the link which is in this post will work to download the Taiwanese SBF. For me it doesn't seem to load
Edit: - Oh the Taiwanese SBF did eventually download. Took about 5 minutes with the tab open loading. I've uploaded it to my Dropbox so you can download from there... should be a bit faster!
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-33-1_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT15_P001_A013_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
(MD5 - 34E9A43EAB8D2FF6101536C4B3F104BD)
Note: This is Taiwanese, NOT CHINESE. The Chinese one burns out the flashlight and it cannot be used after that.
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Thanks for helping me out....
The motorola logo stays around for 20 seconds after with the Motorola boot animation starts.....
So i left my defy on for around 20 mins and nothing is happening its still playing the boot animation. !!
I havent yet downloaded the sbf link you have given me as i am at work now and will be able to do that only when i reach home.
Another thing i have noticed is that i am able to charge my defy....that means the rom is present and hopefully working !!
What say....???
Have you done Factory Reset????
1- turn off your phone (take the battery out and then put it back in)
2- press and HOLD the volume DOWN button + power button
3- Motorola logo appears first, then after a few seconds an 'android ROBOT logo' appears
4- press volume UP and DOWN buttons at once, quickly
5- from the menu choose 'factory reset/wipe-format data'
6- then do 'wipe cache'
7- then do a reboot
see if it helps and you are able to start the phone normally
Euro your awesome!!
Euro_Rules said:
Have you done Factory Reset????
1- turn off your phone (take the battery out and then put it back in)
2- press and HOLD the volume DOWN button + power button
3- Motorola logo appears first, then after a few seconds an 'android ROBOT logo' appears
4- press volume UP and DOWN buttons at once, quickly
5- from the menu choose 'factory reset/wipe-format data'
6- then do 'wipe cache'
7- then do a reboot
see if it helps and you are able to start the phone normally
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Hi buddy,
Thanks yaar...i did exactly you told me to and the phone booted normally...
thanks a million buddy...:good::good:
And i also owe a million thanks to pk92...you have been there when i need you the most buddy....:good::good::good:
Thanks...m so happy to see my defy come back to life... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
O god!! its been a tough time but i learnt something new too....
Thanks guys :laugh:
friend request !!
hi, pk92 & euro
i have sent you friend request...do accept if you like !!
Thanks guys...
Shrewdy said:
Hi buddy,
Thanks yaar...i did exactly you told me to and the phone booted normally...
thanks a million buddy...:good::good:
And i also owe a million thanks to pk92...you have been there when i need you the most buddy....:good::good::good:
Thanks...m so happy to see my defy come back to life... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
O god!! its been a tough time but i learnt something new too....
Thanks guys :laugh:
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Hehehehehehehehe
You are Welcom Shrewdy
Say thanks to our awesome XDA developer's Because of them we are nothing...
Shrewdy said:
hi, pk92 & euro
i have sent you friend request...do accept if you like !!
Thanks guys...
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Accepted :highfive:
Guys I have the same problem.
Phone was upgraded from Froyo to CM7 and took it fine. Played for a while in CM7 but decided to upgrade to CM10.
Followed the steps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795647
flashed foryo Kernel
Flashed CM10-20120924-NIGHTLY-mb525.zip
Flashed Google apps
Cleared cache, cleared Dalvik
Phone boots but gets stuck at Motorola logo and after blue and green light it loops back again to the same sequence.
It's a Defy with green lens and it had stock T-Mobile Froyo (rooted) before flash to CM7.
I'm now back to CM7 as CM10 didn't want to work.
sorry didnt get you
czarekusa said:
Guys I have the same problem.
Phone was upgraded from Froyo to CM7 and took it fine. Played for a while in CM7 but decided to upgrade to CM10.
Followed the steps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795647
flashed foryo Kernel
Flashed CM10-20120924-NIGHTLY-mb525.zip
Flashed Google apps
Cleared cache, cleared Dalvik
Phone boots but gets stuck at Motorola logo and after blue and green light it loops back again to the same sequence.
It's a Defy with green lens and it had stock T-Mobile Froyo (rooted) before flash to CM7.
I'm now back to CM7 as CM10 didn't want to work.
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hey buddy...m sorry i didnt quite get you....
As per my understanding i believe your phone is working fine with CM7 installed and you want to install CM10 on your defy !!
am i correct !!
if you then let me make it clear that the latest CM10 build used a custom kernel made by quarx himself....it is not running a froyo or gb kernel...
so here is what you need to do....
1. simply factory reset your phone...clear cache and dalvik...
2. now flash the latest CM10 build
3. again...clear cache and dalvik...
4. and now let defy boot....first boot may take a longer time....
hope this works for u...if it does not...let me know...will b glad to help u...
Thanks
Shrewdy said:
hey buddy...m sorry i didnt quite get you....
As per my understanding i believe your phone is working fine with CM7 installed and you want to install CM10 on your defy !!
am i correct !!
if you then let me make it clear that the latest CM10 build used a custom kernel made by quarx himself....it is not running a froyo or gb kernel...
so here is what you need to do....
1. simply factory reset your phone...clear cache and dalvik...
2. now flash the latest CM10 build
3. again...clear cache and dalvik...
4. and now let defy boot....first boot may take a longer time....
hope this works for u...if it does not...let me know...will b glad to help u...
Thanks
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Yes, you are correct. the phone is working fine with CM7.
Factory reset, you mean from boot menu or the hard factory reset with holding volume keys (procedure posted above in this thread)?
The first time I actually tried, I did flash of CM10 without the prior kernel flash and it didn't work either.
so do I need any kernel flash or do I just flash it with CM10 and it should work?
I'll try again later today or tomorrow.
Thanks
czarekusa said:
Yes, you are correct. the phone is working fine with CM7.
Factory reset, you mean from boot menu or the hard factory reset with holding volume keys (procedure posted above in this thread)?
The first time I actually tried, I did flash of CM10 without the prior kernel flash and it didn't work either.
so do I need any kernel flash or do I just flash it with CM10 and it should work?
I'll try again later today or tomorrow.
Thanks
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Lots of us who had bootloops trying to flash CM10 24/09 with a BL5 base SBF solved the problem by flashing a BL6 base Froyo SBF.
But try a factory reset and flashing your stock T-Mobile Froyo first.
If your stock doesn't flash properly then it means you have inadvertently flashed something which updated your BL version to BL5.
I flashed the JDGC_U6.2.13.0 SBF which is BL6 and then I was fine.
Don't use this ROM though, just use it as a stepping-stone to install CM10.
Euro_Rules said:
Have you done Factory Reset????
1- turn off your phone (take the battery out and then put it back in)
2- press and HOLD the volume DOWN button + power button
3- Motorola logo appears first, then after a few seconds an 'android ROBOT logo' appears
4- press volume UP and DOWN buttons at once, quickly
5- from the menu choose 'factory reset/wipe-format data'
6- then do 'wipe cache'
7- then do a reboot
see if it helps and you are able to start the phone normally
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Thanks a lottt.. :highfive:

[Q] Install 10.11 and kernel update in DEFY greenlense.

Hi, i have some questions about the 2ndboot updates. I had tested cm10 for a while now (but currently in cm7.2), but i got a little lost with this whole kernel update.
1st of all, in quarx page i don't see a "cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy/" folder, just the one for defy+, this new builds are only for defy plus yet?, or there work on both devices?
and if they do, how sould i install them, do they change to 2ndboot by themselves or do i have to do it myself?
elpiole said:
Hi, i have some questions about the 2ndboot updates. I had tested cm10 for a while now (but currently in cm7.2), but i got a little lost with this whole kernel update.
1st of all, in quarx page i don't see a "cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy/" folder, just the one for defy+, this new builds are only for defy plus yet?, or there work on both devices?
and if they do, how sould i install them, do they change to 2ndboot by themselves or do i have to do it myself?
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They are for both and no change is required from your part in the bootmenu settings
I've tried flashing 10.11 and update.zip today, with no luck.
I first tried flashing over my original cm10 (9.12 - froyo kernel, on green lens) - wiped cache, then dalvik.
boot loops on red led
then i tried wiping all data/cache and flashing both again
same boot loops
next i tried flashing a new sbf (t mobile usa 2.1 updated to 2.2 - then rooted and 2ndinit)
now still waiitng at red led on boot, but no boot loops.
I have read the bootup time is very long the first time, but I've let it sit over 15 minutes, and tried a battery pull and let it sit another 15 minutes.
I am about to try again from nordic deblur 2.2 sbf
Am i doing something wrong? I'm not an expert at this stuff, but i'm usually pretty good about following directions. please help!
Amazing job again Quarx and everyone!
Start fresh; use the ultimate wiper for defy and flash cm11/10, and them flash only update v2
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tronjojo said:
I've tried flashing 10.11 and update.zip today, with no luck.
I first tried flashing over my original cm10 (9.12 - froyo kernel, on green lens) - wiped cache, then dalvik.
boot loops on red led
then i tried wiping all data/cache and flashing both again
same boot loops
next i tried flashing a new sbf (t mobile usa 2.1 updated to 2.2 - then rooted and 2ndinit)
now still waiitng at red led on boot, but no boot loops.
I have read the bootup time is very long the first time, but I've let it sit over 15 minutes, and tried a battery pull and let it sit another 15 minutes.
I am about to try again from nordic deblur 2.2 sbf
Am i doing something wrong? I'm not an expert at this stuff, but i'm usually pretty good about following directions. please help!
Amazing job again Quarx and everyone!
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I think You've misundersttod my friend. There no long time of bootlooping. Theres a long first boot. Boot lopping shouldn't happen continuously.
Maybe following the steps below from a post on the defy general forum should help
nidhish91 said:
OOk guys so I found this thread which shows MS2 got a custom kernel. The proceduce is bit difficult but can be modified for working for Defy too.
Hope has struck back again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908687
Update: 2ndboot module sources are here:
https://github.com/czechop/2ndboot
Quarx puts his kernel here:
quarx2k.ru
Sdcard symlink Fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32428611&postcount=392
Thanks to walter.
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BIGNOTE: Green lens users who flashed redlens builds please dont try using flash, you will end up burning it like me and many others.
STEPS TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU HAVE BOOTLOOPS OR BLACK SCREEN WITH RED LED ON:
-1st of all set default boot to 2nd-boot
-Go to recovery and flash the 24.9 build
-Then flash the kernel 6.10
-After that flash the latest build
-Wait and you will have your phone working proper.
!
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Also you cont just go down to a previous sbf version. Youve flashed a custom kernel. You would need to go to your standard kernel which you would find elsewhere. I think the CM10 faqs have the 525 and 526 kernels
i followed the same procedure as last time, but this time starting from the nordic deblur sbf and everything worked fine. no bootloops. long first boot time. If anyone tries this, do NOT use the official tmobile USA sbf. didn't work for me at all. I'm guessing that's why i had problems with 9/24 build as well.
Flashing nordic to workaround red led + black screen ?
tronjojo said:
i followed the same procedure as last time, but this time starting from the nordic deblur sbf and everything worked fine. no bootloops. long first boot time. If anyone tries this, do NOT use the official tmobile USA sbf. didn't work for me at all. I'm guessing that's why i had problems with 9/24 build as well.
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Hi,
Your message rings a bell to me !
I have tried to flash cm10 18/10 + update_v4 on my Defy (green lens) but I have failed, I always get stuck on red led + black screen. Waiting or removing battery and retrying did not help. Wiping did not help either. I am coming from cm7, had never flashed cm9 or cm10 before, and before cm7 my phone was on french froyo stock rom 3.4.2-164.
Do you think I should try to flash another sbf, such as nordic deblur sbf as you did ?
Is your bootloop like that:
Splashscreen -> red LED + black screen -> Splashscreen -> red LED + black screen
If yes, you should think about upgrading your bootloader...
Had the same problem and was on BL5, some people in Support thread had the same prob on BL5...
So I flashed this chinese rom, rooted and upgraded to cm10 and everything worked fine for me.
Use this SBF just as a stepstone to CM10, because it may break your flashlight or ****.
Make sure you have snd-init on your sd, cause there is no gapps on the sbf...
well thats it...
esok44 said:
Is your bootloop like that:
Splashscreen -> red LED + black screen -> Splashscreen -> red LED + black screen
If yes, you should think about upgrading your bootloader...
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In my case, it's not looping, it is stucked on red led + black screen.
did you wipe cache and dalvik?
or did you try a clean installation?
wich sbf was the last one you flashed?

[Q] Red LED and Black screen on CM10 2nd-boor ROM's

Hey there, I've tried almost every method to boot up the new Quarx builds, but for me it's impossible to boot this ROM's on my Defy red lens.
I have pull out the battery, installed the fix for dead screens, flashed 2409 and then the 0610 kernel, but no result.
Also, I wasn't able to boot the last non 2nd-boot built, the 2409 CM10 Nightly so I'm using 1209.
The only thing that I haven't is flashing another .sbf, but RSDLite doesn't recognize my Defy and Windows also not, with the latest drivers of Motorola installed.
Please, if anyone knows how to help me, reply me as soon as you can.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor english.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818520 try it with this zip, it worked for me. just erase all and flash latest build.
Jelly powered.Defy
Thank you for replying so fast, but I have already tried that a couple of times before. Anyway, I'll try again.
More info about my problem: when I flash any of the 2nd-boot ROM's and boot into bootmenu and after that select again 2nd boot, the screen goes black, BUT the backlight of the buttons turns on. Does it mean anything ?
Thanks in advance
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TinoSP said:
Thank you for replying so fast, but I have already tried that a couple of times before. Anyway, I'll try again.
More info about my problem: when I flash any of the 2nd-boot ROM's and boot into bootmenu and after that select again 2nd boot, the screen goes black, BUT the backlight of the buttons turns on. Does it mean anything ?
Thanks in advance
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normal the buttons flash and after few seconds u see the boot animation.
tell me more about ur phone.
what bl? and what model mb525 or 526.
Jelly powered.Defy
AnTerNoZ said:
normal the buttons flash and after few seconds u see the boot animation.
tell me more about ur phone.
what bl? and what model mb525 or 526.
Jelly powered.Defy
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It's an MB525 Red lenses(Bayer). I don't know what kind of BL has, it comes from the official Froyo ROM of Vodafone Spain, and after that CM7,
So close..but I waited when the buttons were on for about an hour or something and nothing happened, should I be more patient?
TinoSP said:
It's an MB525 Red lenses(Bayer). I don't know what kind of BL has, it comes from the official Froyo ROM of Vodafone Spain, and after that CM7,
So close..but I waited when the buttons were on for about an hour or something and nothing happened, should I be more patient?
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if u wait longer ur battery run out of power! don't do this or u have to mcgyver it.
do the following
load the CM10 2nd boot new
load the new version 4 update
wipe ur device
install ROM + update
install Gapps ur want
restart phone, if u get red led longer than a minute, pull battery out for 5-10min and press power button when battery is removed.
put back the battery, and wait for the CM10 bootanimation.
if that not work ur bl is not compatible and u had to flash a higher one, it's known that some bl5 not work, u just had to flash a bl6 ROM. for the ROM just look at the thread were all roms in, there u can found ur bl version.
Jelly powered.Defy
AnTerNoZ said:
if u wait longer ur battery run out of power! don't do this or u have to mcgyver it.
do the following
load the CM10 2nd boot new
load the new version 4 update
wipe ur device
install ROM + update
install Gapps ur want
restart phone, if u get red led longer than a minute, pull battery out for 5-10min and press power button when battery is removed.
put back the battery, and wait for the CM10 bootanimation.
if that not work ur bl is not compatible and u had to flash a higher one, it's known that some bl5 not work, u just had to flash a bl6 ROM. for the ROM just look at the thread were all roms in, there u can found ur bl version.
Jelly powered.Defy
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Ok, I'm gonna try it, but first, to ensure that I'm doing the steps right, I'm gonna ask you two things: With "wipe" you mean wipe data+cache+dalvik or with the defy_full_wipe.zip?
And till now, I have flashed the updates as a normal ROM, should I flash them as an update.zip ?
yes, it's an update.zip! just enter custom recovery and go to install zip.
and wiping with recovery is enought, i use the ultimate zip only if i get problems.
Jelly powered.Defy
I have just tried and it hasn't worked. Thanks anyways for you efforts. I think that my only possible solution is flashing a new .sbf, but Rsdlite doesn't recognize my Defy
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have u tried a different USB slot?
if u flash an sbf, try the custom ones, they are great.
Jelly powered.Defy
Yes, I have tried in four different USB ports in my laptop and even Windows doesn't recognize it, it shows my Defy as a unknown device
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hmmm... what OS u had on PC? had u tried reinstall Motorola drivers with reboot?
Jelly powered.Defy
same problem, green lense
I have the same issues.
I have a green lens defy, was able to flash every nightly version until the 0924 version. So in other words, the last ROM that I was able to get booted was the 0912 quarx CM10 nightly.
I have looked in all the threads I could find, searched as much as I could, tried every technique, and still can't get past the black screen with the red LED.
I absolutely cannot get it to work no matter what I try. I've seriously read at least half a dozen people's instructions and nothing works. NOTHING! I have not tried starting from a stock sbf because I'm satisfied just barely enough using the 0912 nightly.
HELP!
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
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AnTerNoZ said:
hmmm... what OS u had on PC? had u tried reinstall Motorola drivers with reboot?
Jelly powered.Defy
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I have Windows 7 Home Premium, and I have run RSDLite in administrator rights and even in compatibility mode. I didn't tried to reinstall drivers because I don't have much time right now, so I'll tell you.
nastys said:
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
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Are you replying to bulbouscorm or to me?
it happens to me with win 7 ultimate that the driver I installed half year before was corrupt, pleas try reinstall.
it's really not often that a defy will not recognized on PC.
u can also try a Linux Live-CD to flash it from there. but I not know the tool for Linux, search on forum and u will find it
Jelly powered.Defy
nastys said:
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
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I restored my backup from a ICS version, but then I kind-of bricked my phone so I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
I was playing with my very dumb phone at work, now I'm home I'll try to update to the latest CM10. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to. AAAAAND it's still giving me a black screen + red LED. I flashed the sbf, rooted, installed 2nd init, and then flashed the 1018 nightly, the update, gapps with some cache/dalvik wiping before and after the nightly-update-gapps flash
I'm trying again using the custom zip files to wipe everything instead of using the recovery menu. Also this time I'm using the minimal gapps instead of the 1011 version
AAAAND it didn't work. black screen + red LED. I'm really looking for help here. Should I have not flashed straight from the froyo-updated stock sbf to the latest jb nightly?
bulbouscorm said:
I restored my backup from a ICS version, but then I kind-of bricked my phone so I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
I was playing with my very dumb phone at work, now I'm home I'll try to update to the latest CM10. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to. AAAAAND it's still giving me a black screen + red LED. I flashed the sbf, rooted, installed 2nd init, and then flashed the 1018 nightly, the update, gapps with some cache/dalvik wiping before and after the nightly-update-gapps flash
I'm trying again using the custom zip files to wipe everything instead of using the recovery menu. Also this time I'm using the minimal gapps instead of the 1011 version
AAAAND it didn't work. black screen + red LED. I'm really looking for help here. Should I have not flashed straight from the froyo-updated stock sbf to the latest jb nightly?
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I was getting the black screen + red LED too, but manage to get it to work.
1: I flashed 0924
2: Then wiped everything
3: Flashed the 1018 build.
4: Tried botting - red LED + black screen
5: Booted to recovery
6: In boot options, reselected 2nd boot.
7: Tried to boot - red LED + black screen
8: Removed the battery
9: Waited 5 mins (could be more)
10: Placed the battery back
11: Tried to boot - Success.
Most of this steps are not needed, but it is what made my Defy boot with the 2ndboot builds.
bulbouscorm said:
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I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
.....
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to.
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the silver m is eclair bootanimation
something defiantly goes wrong with ur phone. u should upgrade to a froyo ROM with bootloader version 6, there are a few user had problem with older bootloader to run second boot builds
Jelly powered.Defy
Yes, use BL6, latest CM10 2nd init rom and wipe data,cache,dalvik before installing, then use Stable Recovery to install zip from sdcard->18.10 ROM then install zip from sdcard->update v4 then install zip from sdcard->Gapps, reboot twice and it will work.
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EDIT: And remember to wipe everything before restoring a Nandroid backup.

[Q] Quarx 2ndboot- 27.05 - black screen

after flashing 2ndboot-27.05 on full wipe i get the M logo, after that the blue light and after that the red light with a black screen and no bootanimation. i have waited for 20 min but nothing happened.
i flashed back 26.05 for now.
any idea enyone?
thanx
shrlev said:
after flashing 2ndboot-27.05 on full wipe i get the M logo, after that the blue light and after that the red light with a black screen and no bootanimation. i have waited for 20 min but nothing happened.
i flashed back 26.05 for now.
any idea enyone?
thanx
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shrlev said:
after flashing 2ndboot-27.05 on full wipe i get the M logo, after that the blue light and after that the red light with a black screen and no bootanimation. i have waited for 20 min but nothing happened.
i flashed back 26.05 for now.
any idea enyone?
thanx
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I really think the SBF of the Experimental is having different SBF CG files. Maybe lower in CG from before.
Thats why the problem. With the build
Might have to start with Full Re-instalation of SBF
Substance ioningeo
[QUOThelpwarkesh2492;41946199]I really think the SBF of the Experimental is having different SBF CG files. Maybe lower in CG from before.
Thats why the problem. With the build
Might have to start with Full Re-instalation of SBF[/QUOTE]
I was trying to flash different rom's cm10.1 older than 26.05.2013 even cm10, but every time I get the same black screen with red led, right after moto logo.
I must say that before I install 26.05.2013 I made a full wipe (cache/data/system).
Can help someone?
shrlev said:
after flashing 2ndboot-27.05 on full wipe i get the M logo, after that the blue light and after that the red light with a black screen and no bootanimation. i have waited for 20 min but nothing happened.
i flashed back 26.05 for now.
any idea enyone?
thanx
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I'm changing back and forth from 0904 and 2705, coz 2705 has a problem - Motocast WiFi won't work on it - everything else no problems at all, even flashed 4.2.2 Gapps on 2705 -but then Store refused to connect only..didn't want to mess with it so re-flashed only older Gapps (minimal) then. .. 2705 seems to have different USB drivers too..manual unmounting the SD card..
Well try this : Full wipe of system and dalvik cache , then flash 2705 then flash gapps , and now optional step i never had to do - again clear system and cache..
Hope it works for you.
I tried to flash also 16.06 and cm10.1-16.06 but nothing, still the same black screen with red led.
again any idea anyone???
thanx
shrlev said:
I tried to flash also 16.06 and cm10.1-16.06 but nothing, still the same black screen with red led.
again any idea anyone???
thanx
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Try rm -rf /system/* instead of system wipe. I think somethink is buggy in TWRP and "system wipe" is not fully wipes the system partition. After "rm ...", flash cm10-16.06 and 20121011 gapps.
(Sorry for my bad english )
SFefy said:
Try rm -rf /system/*
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i didn't understand what does it meen

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