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Hi all,
I pre ordered my 16gb nexus 7 last week.
And I am thinking I will root it as soon as it arrives, but I have the following worries/questions:
If I root and unlock the bootloader, will I still get ota updates?
If I root and unlock the bootloader, is it possible to re-root it and re-lock the bootloader for warranty purposes?
Is the a large chance of bricking it by rooting it? Or is it quite safe now?
Is the any real reason why I shouldn't root it?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am currently using a rooted galaxy s2, and that comes with the bootloader pre-unlocked, so I am not familiar with locked bootloader lol
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers corey
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Ps,
I also noticed that the are a few methods of rooting the n7, does anyone know which method that installs Cwm permanently is best?
Cheers
Corey
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Yes you will be still able to get OTA updates, though you may will lose root after an OTA. It's only when you begin flashing alternate recoveries, kernels, ROMs etc. will you lose the ability to receive OTAs.
I'm not sure what you mean by re-root again (maybe you mean unroot??). But from the Nexus trend, you will be able to relock the bootloader after unlocking it (though I don't see a point unless you're about to return it). Regarding the unroot thing, all you have to do is just reflash the stock ROM or just remove the su binary and the su management application (SuperSU or Superuser).
It's relatively safe to say that you can root it without bricking your tablet. These days, it's pretty hard to actually brick your device unless you do something absolutely moronic i.e. flash the wrong bootloader.
Well, to answer your question, do you need root? If you don't need it nor do you understand what its purpose is, don't. Some uses include being able to access /system/ to maybe delete bloatware (there shouldn't be any on a Nexus device), some apps may get further functionality e.g. some apps might intentionally auto-turn on your GPS when you've lost your phone etc.
Clockwork recovery is totally separate to root. A recovery is used to flash things e.g. root, ROMs, kernels etc. When CWR is released for the Nexus 7, all you have to do is run "fastboot flash recovery <name of recovery>.img" (well that's what I'd run since I'm using Linux).
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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fishingfon said:
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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Ahh righteo, a locked bootloader just means you can't flash anything. And yes, you are correct, if you flash any recovery that isn't stock and matches with the build of Android, you will lose the ability to receive OTAs.
No worries .
Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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armyboy11b said:
Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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Yep, it can be rooted on all the main OS's.
Hi guys!
I have just bought a Nexus7 32gb WiFi.
Which is the best way to root my device?
I don't want to try custom roms yet.
Just to have the stock firmware but rooted.
Should i prefer to use a toolkit with all the steps of unlock bootloader / root etc,
or maybe something else (ex.CF-Auto-Root etc)..?
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
Used that the first day I had it. Couldn't ask for easier rooting. Start with 1 and work your way down to what you need.
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Thanks for the reply.
And now the noob question..
If i'll unlock & root the device, it might cause problems to accept ota updates..?
After ota update, i suppose that needs root again..?
It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.
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It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
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That's what i meant..
ynrozturk said:
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.
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So, after rooting, what's the way to get the updated firmwares?
Use OTA RootKeeper (http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en)
... it will backup your root (SU binary) and with it you can temporarily unroot - get the OTA update, and restore root again.
Rgrds,
Ged.
I don't want to offend MSkip at all, but I tried both toolkits and MSkip's is just not as friendly as Wug's.
Wug's toolkit is the simplest and easiest way of rooting I have ever experienced. Its that good, my nan could root the bloody thing, and she can't even use a touch device.
Like I said, no offence MSkip but Wug, your my winner.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Agreed, Wug's toolkit is supreme.
I've only used Wug's so I can't comment on any others, but I can agree that yes, Wug's toolkit is supreme.
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Has anyone keep root after the OTA 9.30. I mistakenly forgot to backup root and unroot then take the update. I just backup root and then took the updates and now I am not root anymore. Can some help me with that?
I need help getting root back?
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TheGman125 said:
Has anyone keep root after the OTA 9.30. I mistakenly forgot to backup root and unroot then take the update. I just backup root and then took the updates and now I am not root anymore. Can some help me with that?
I need help getting root back?
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If it is, try flashing SU in recovery. This should re-root you. Otherwise, you might be stuck for now. I'm sure the devs are diligently working on a new root exploit, but for now you're stuck.
RikRong said:
Is your bootloader unlocked? If it is, try flashing SU in recovery. This should re-root you. Otherwise, you might be stuck for now. I'm sure the devs are diligently working on a new root exploit, but for now you're stuck.
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I am not unlocked but what I am going to do is try to re-root with the same software. I will keep the forum posted with my progress and process.
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The devs are most likely not diligently working on a new exploit at this point. This phone is last year's model now. This is why you always protect root before an ota. Or just don't take. Most likely your screwed with a stock phone now.
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deeje00 said:
The devs are most likely not diligently working on a new exploit at this point. This phone is last year's model now. This is why you always protect root before an ota. Or just don't take. Most likely your screwed with a stock phone now.
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I understand see that now... The funny thing is my WiFi hotspot still work on the devices.
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I was finally about to root my RAZR M after owning the phone about a year. My primary reason for rooting would be to uninstall all of the system bloat ware that came with it.
I've tried a few different ways to root, but it keeps failing. There was a new update installed a couple days before I tried rooting and I suspect this is the reason it won't work. Is this the case?
Is there a workaround for rooting RAZR M with the current update? If there is simply no way to do it, I would at least like to know if there's a way to remove pre-installed apps without root. Please help!!
Thanks in advance for your response.
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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What's your system version? I you're on the most recent update, there's no way to root yet.
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
flow motive said:
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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Leraeniesh said:
At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
dtraini7 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
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Grab the .zip from here and flash in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I got a Razr M from a friend who had already updated to 98.30.1 and I'm stuck now with a locked BL and Unrooted ROM. No hope in sight? Then there's this ... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...y-warranties-on-developer-devices-reinstated/
Maybe there is a silver lining in the horizon?
Really bums me out there's no root for the new update, I was waiting to root till I decided I was gonna keep this phone then the Sept update came and now I can't root. Very disappointed. Wonder if it'll ever get bl unlock?
Anyone considered this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541739 ?
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
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Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.
Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.
BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.
The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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newmanx4 said:
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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billycar11 said:
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
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Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
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See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.
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That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out
Which I'm recommending you do anyway.
I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
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Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted
billycar11 said:
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
xknobi said:
Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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yes that is what i posted
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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yes that is what i posted
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Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
newmanx4 said:
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
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xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.