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We all know how hard it is for developers as codeworkx, Entropy512, and XpLoDWilD to work on Exynos devices such as the I9300 Galaxy S III. The reason for this difficulty is the lack of proper sources & documentation for the Exynos SoC. What Samsung release is kernel source, and a few parts of the platform source that aren't actually modified or really critical. The goal of this thread is to convince Samsung to release the needed sources & documentation for the Exynos SoC!
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codeworkx said:
Seems you got korea's attention because of the "flooding" the community is currently doing via opensource.samsung.com. twitter, facebook and so on. They contacted us and we told them again what the community wants to have.
You know that bad press for samsung is our most effective weapon to make things changing.
So if you want to make samsung to continue paying attention, you know what to do...
Fight till you got what you want to have.
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Write a request asking Samsung to release the needed sources & documentation for Exynos devices:
https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungTomorrow/
https://twitter.com/samsungmobile
https://twitter.com/samsungtomorrow
https://twitter.com/SamsungSupport
https://twitter.com/samsung_dev
https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobile
It is also highly recommended to create inquiry in the OSRC:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
Requester: Enter your name.
ID (E-mail): Enter your email address.
Country: Select your country.
Inquiry Type: Select "Request for Source Codes".
Model: Enter "Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III".
Message:
Dear Samsung,
A great device becomes GREAT only when software truly compliments the hardware. We, the development community, are striving very hard to achieve that objective. Many users of Samsung Galaxy S3 and other Exynos based devices want to make the phones released by Samsung truly inspirational and surpass any competition. This powerhouse will achieve its true potential only when the development community get the source documentation regarding the hardware components such as the resource libraries pertaining to the Exynos SoC and Mali GPU.
It not only benefits the end user but will also be highly beneficial for Samsung in the long run, as these customers will then get utmost satisfaction with their device and will then help in the word-of-mouth publicity of Samsung products.
A truly inspirational product is born when it inspires the masses and is able to mesmerize the entire world. With Samsung Galaxy S3, we are witnessing a paradigm shift in the mobile industry and need your little help in making this turning point even more monumental.
We hope we will not be disappointed by a customer centric company like yours.
Warm regards,
A true Samsung fan
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Credit to zoot1 for the inquiry letter.
Hope it works! :fingers-crossed:
And for all of you who claim that petitions don't work:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-closed-source-wifi-drivers-for-htc-amaze-4g/
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Samsung's latest response:
posted on all pages
It says we are a "loyal cliché of people"
I wouldn't post that anywhere as they will not take it seriously because it makes us look illiterate.
But besides that I agree with the idea.
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why not ask them why i got 1 gig of ram in my galaxy s3
Sweeeeeeet. A lot of people are posting this!
Done. On all of them =D
and is now having a self-defeating affect and forcing these brilliant developers to lose faith in Android.
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Please change this to "effect" very quickly.
thebobp said:
Please change this to "effect" very quickly.
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:good:
Great idea, but this should probably be rewritten until it sounds professional. If we're going to stick with this, then here are some changes that should be made.
As you know, developers are the lifeblood of the Android ecosystem and are generally the people that are developing the most exciting and innovative applications for users.
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No dashes needed.
Samsung has generally been at the forefront of mobile/cellular phone innovation and has usually allowed access to this type of non-sensitive information, so other co-innovators can continue to develop for the wider community.
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We know you understand the size of the Android community, in fact you also use this community yourself to unofficially beta test your own internal updates and firmware versions, so please, repay the community by releasing this none-sensitive information.
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No dash needed.
The Samsung Android community are a loyal cliché of people.
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Makes no sense.
They don’t want to move away to devices by Sony, or HTC, but their openness is forcing everybody to rethink their loyalties.
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raphytaffy said:
Great idea, but this should probably be rewritten until it sounds professional. If we're going to stick with this, then here are some changes that should be made.
No dashes needed.
No dash needed.
Makes no sense.
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Thanks for the currections!
This is the wrong way of approaching this.
add these to your list please:
FACEBOOK:
www.facebook.com/SamsungNederland
www.facebook.com/samsungmobilebelgium
www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileDeutschland
GOOGLE PLUS:
https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobile
AndreiLux said:
This is the wrong way of approaching this.
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There is no good way, all methods have been tried without result (for the past two years that I am aware of). At least they will realize we still care and don't give up.
AndreiLux said:
This is the wrong way of approaching this.
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CM team tried all the right ways...
raphytaffy said:
Great idea, but this should probably be rewritten until it sounds professional. If we're going to stick with this, then here are some changes that should be made.
No dashes needed.
No dash needed.
Makes no sense.
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I didn't realise I was so bad at English....ha ha. Feel free to amend, make it more proffesional and legible! As long as the word get's out, that is the main objective. :good:
AndreiLux said:
This is the wrong way of approaching this.
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AndreiLux said:
This is the wrong way of approaching this.
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If the right way doesn't work, this is the only way.
Though any better idea is welcome.
XDA mark said:
If the right way doesn't work, this is the only way.
Though any better idea is welcome.
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XDA mark said:
If the right way doesn't work, this is the only way.
Though any better idea is welcome.
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AFAIK all legit ways where tried numerous times with no success what so ever.
I don't think we'll lose anything by just trying to reach out loud
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Instead of could you please use
* may we request your good office to release the full documentations *
but somehow if its patented, they have the right not to release it.
just sharing some information guys.
If i am wrong, i am glad to be corrected...
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mariotme said:
+1
AFAIK all legit ways where tried numerous times with no success what so ever.
I don't think we'll lose anything by just trying to reach out loud
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Correct, nobody is getting hurt and nobody will lose any sleep over it at Samsung......but it might just get them talking about it. If you keep doing this for long enough, they will at least issue a response. If that response is "you can have it soon, but not now" then fine, at least we know. But the dev's have all contacted Samsung in Korea and been given either a bum-steer or a point-blank NO!
We are only being the equivalent of a fly that is flying around your head. If you want it to go away, you swat it, spray it, or open the door and let it on its merry way.
Marketing people hate negativity. They want a positive platform to work on - not people posting arguments as to why not to buy their products. They can delete the posts, and then we re-post them. Eventually we will get some form of response.
To those who disagree with this action, if there is another way, do let us in on it, and we'll all try it willingly no-doubt.
I've run out of 'Thanks' to everybody who has helped and supplied links to pages. So 'Thanks' to you all.
:good:
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I've updated the original post on the CM10 thread. Sorry, I did rattle it out rather quickly.
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EDIT: Well, some will say this effort had no impact, others will not be so naive and realize the voices of MANY of you were heard. Really applaud everyone... regardless if it helped or not, Samsung has stated that they have heard us AND that it's something they are not used to, but will make an effort... I feel like this is success.
OTA should start tomorrow. Source should be released very shortly after that:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING!!!
For those not certain why this thread was created: PLEASE READ
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I generally remain calm and try and remain upbeat and defend... but the news (rumor/leak) about Samsung holding off the froyo release to sell more phones set me over the edge.
While nothing is confirmed, I still believe Samsung needs to be aware of just how pissed they are making our community. I'm not talking stupid class action, blah blah... I simply want our voice heard, and for a Froyo release to happen ASAP... but beyond that, I want them to adhere to the Open Handset Alliance and release their source for our developers.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/
I believe we all now who is going to put out a better product, and right now they (our developers) are handicapped because they do not have everything they need.
That said, we need to be organized!
We need twitter to trend AND we need to spread it all over Facebook! I am ignorant and have no interest in learning Facebook. I know the majority of you use it daily so I am going to rely on you guys for that!
To do this on twitter, we all need to use the same #hashtag. We also need to threaten something that means something to them... the whole problem is they are not updating to help with their sales (allegedly). Well, we need to threaten to never buy Samsung again.
Please use this #Hashtag:
#NeverAgain
would work.... it is easy to use, short and to the point.
An example: (just copy/paste this if you like)
[email protected] & @Samsungtweets I will never buy a Samsung product after the way you've treated your customers. #NeverAgain
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OR (thanks to @JunkDruggler):
[email protected] After the BH2 fail and the Vibrant fail.. I will #NeverAgain buy #samsung..
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You need to tweet:
@SamsungMobileUS and/or @SamsungTweets
I sent a similar tweet earlier, and they are now following me. THEY ARE LISTENING... MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!
trunkstar1 found a great link for their Facebook Wall (his post is here) - with nearly a HALF OF A MILLION PEOPLE!!
d_bot also has a Facebook group, join group NeverAgainSamsung
sweshes has created a groubal as well (online petition). If you are inclined, here is the link.
http://www.groubal.com/samsung-has-...ant-even-when-they-promised-end-of-year/#sign
Here is a LOT of their information for FACEBOOK users, compliments of a post from XDA user AllGamer.
AllGamer said:
List of Facebook Samsung's accounts related to our cause:
Mobile Department
Samsung Mobile
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile#!/SamsungMobile?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/samsungmobilecanada?v=wall
Samsung Mobile España
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ges/Samsung-Mobile-Espana/108610811866?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Global
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileGlobal#!/SamsungMobileGlobal?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Romania
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRomania
Samsung Mobile Singapore
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileSingapore#!/SamsungMobileSingapore?v=wall
Samsung Mobile UK
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUKmobile#!/SamsungUKmobile?v=wall
another Samsung Mobile ?
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=72687635881&v=wall
Country
Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/SamsungCanada?v=wall
Korea
http://www.facebook.com/samsungkorea#!/samsungkorea?v=wall
USA
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA?v=app_264732985926#!/SamsungUSA?v=wall
Models fan base pages?
Samsung Galaxy S
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...pages/Samsung-Galaxy-S/112079458807762?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Romania
http://www.facebook.com/i9000GalaxyS
Samsung Captivate
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ages/Samsung-Captivate/114820871900462?v=wall
Samsung Epic ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungEpic#!/SamsungEpic?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...msung-Galaxy-S-Vibrant/129061660469467?v=wall
Unknowns
Engineering ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Engineering/105652329467423?v=desc
Service ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungService#!/SamsungService?v=wall
Samsung ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung/25448656869#!/pages/Samsung/25448656869?v=wall
Samsung Apps ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungApps?filter=2#!/SamsungApps?v=wall
If anyone can confirm which ones are official and which ones are fan based, it'll be greatly appreciated.
The ones in the Mobile Department and Country specific are definitely legit, anything else are most likely fan based sites.
- NEW full list of legit Samsung Twitter accounts -
http://twitter.com/Samsung/lists
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+10
I don't have twitter or anything, but for this cause, I'll make one...
Still on my vacation till the 12th of Feb...
Ill try to do it on my phone.
Yes, a vacation of 3 months, hehe!
Sent from the helm of Vibrant Territory!
Awesome, please do what you can people... the whole point is to be organized, make it trend on twitter and Samsung will be forced to respond. Maybe that is why I am so upset, they have not made any effort to debunk these rumors.
I personally am tired of defending them...
Do u suggest I keep saying it or just like once a day?
to be most effective, I think you should post this is all US galaxy s variant forums. Fascinate, Epic, Captivate, and the other one or two. Get all US Galaxy S users to do this too!
btw, i dont have a twitter account or have ever used it. any suggestions on how to post your message once i create a twitter account?
EDIT: i just set up a twitter account, how do i post that hashtag to samsung?
Creating an account is super easy (and the best way to keep up with our developers). Once you have the account created, just PM me if you need help.... you could just copy/paste what I have in the OP if you like.
#NeverAgain... waiting for a dual core HTC on TMO then dumping the vibrant...
I would never ever imagine this coming from you but you actually did a pretty good thread. I don't think it would make diffrence, people aren't going to follow up, XDA is a small portion of all samsung phones.
Like someone said samsung is known for their eletronics that are release as is, no follow up update. As big as they are they become greedy. Its a company out out for money, "making a new phone with new software" will get the most sales.
If they give us froyo now it will drop their new phone sales dramactecly (spelling). Because an old phone will be cheaper then a new phone The vibrant 4G isnt really a big update besides the FFC and HSPA+. Thereby the orignal vibrant.will get.bought.
Another thing to think about is when the vibrant 4G/plus gets out we will not get froyo right away, maybe a month after.
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Wow im not the only one that doesn't have a facebook wow, I think im going to make one talking smack about sammy just cause.
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kboater said:
to be most effective, I think you should post this is all US galaxy s variant forums. Fascinate, Epic, Captivate, and the other one or two. Get all US Galaxy S users to do this too!
btw, i dont have a twitter account or have ever used it. any suggestions on how to post your message once i create a twitter account?
EDIT: i just set up a twitter account, how do i post that hashtag to samsung?
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I did this... but now I realize that is against XDA rules (I never post multiple threads). I need to let the mods know my error. Hopefully this thread remains open though.
iwillkillyou said:
I would never ever imagine this coming from you but you actually did a pretty good thread....
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So... you think my sticky threads are bad? PM me how to improve, but 152K and 25k views and no complaints so far. But... thanks anyway for the compliment.
just tried for the first time, how can i tell if i did it right and it got posted on samsungs twitter?
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I did this... but now I realize that is against XDA rules (I never post multiple threads). I need to let the mods know my error. Hopefully this thread remains open though.
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Can others post this same thread though?
Saw your tweet to others a bit ago and retweeted!!
sent from the other side of my galaxy.
^ LOL, epic pic. Thanks for the RT.
xriderx66 said:
Can others post this same thread though?
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Ahh.... THAT is probably the way I should have done it. Hopefully the other threads remain open. I imagine XDA wants developers to get their source too....
kboater said:
just tried for the first time, how can i tell if i did it right and it got posted on samsungs twitter?
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If you PM me your twitter name I can tell you. I'm certain you did it correctly though, and I really appreciate it.
I wouldnt be upset about the hold on 2.2, if NOT FOR THE FREAKING FACT THAT THEIR 2.1 + TOUCH WIZ WAS BUGGY AS A ROACH MOTEL.
K, done. I doubt it will have any effect on whether we see updates for our Vibrants but at least I've contributed to the "user outrage", such as it is.
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K, done. I doubt it will have any effect on whether we see updates for our Vibrants but at least I've contributed to the "user outrage", such as it is.
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I agree... but we NEED to try.
Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn
Awesome man, nice to see a hand out.....
any insight on when source will be released?
Did you hear about the #NeverAgain Samsung movement?
Bump, would love to see connections between XDA and Samsung to improve on the great hardware provided by Samsung. Too bad I am in Dallas though...
Very cool to get an official Samsung voice in here.
Want a suggestion? Samsung should pay out bounties to devs who do special things for Samsung handsets. For instance, did you know that Supercurio's work has turned the SGS into a credible audiophile DAP? It sounds better than many dedicated DAP + amp combos, which is extraordinary. Samsung should reward that!
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Im not a dev, but ill be there.
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omg omg omgomgogm!
can i get your signature?!??!
Partnership
Partnership! That's the plan, you guys in my opinion, are the biggest influence to the android community.
If you guys are seriously planning on strengthening the relationship with XDA, take a cue from HTC, and put your source out quicker for us to play with. If you think the devs here are great now, open up that sandbox and you'll see what they can really do.
This is a great gesture though, I hope something great can come of it.
Partnership
Yes, I have been watching you guys work and I must say is very fantastic. I am here on behalf of Samsung to establish a partnership. Do you guys suggest me posting this in the development forums?
SamsungJohn said:
Yes, I have been watching you guys work and I must say is very fantastic. I am here on behalf of Samsung to establish a partnership. Do you guys suggest me posting this in the development forums?
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<3 I am following you. Thanks for being awesome.
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So, the frikkin GPS......
You guys shipped a bogus product.
Are you even considering a perk on the Galaxys 4g upgrade for those of us that purchased a broken device ?
grr. double post
SamsungJohn said:
Yes, I have been watching you guys work and I must say is very fantastic. I am here on behalf of Samsung to establish a partnership. Do you guys suggest me posting this in the development forums?
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Nah, you'll get reamed if you post in the dev forum. I'm sure this thread has been noticed by all the dev teams.
n2ishun said:
So, the frikkin GPS......
You guys shipped a bogus product.
Are you even considering a perk on the Galaxys 4g upgrade for those of us that purchased a broken device ?
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That's up to tmobile. Anyways, don't attack him he's here to help. Keep the negative comments to yourself as this is our one link to samsung and we do NOT want to lose it.
Thank you for coming and introducing yourself!
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That's up to tmobile. Anyways, don't attack him he's here to help. Keep the negative comments to yourself as this is our one link to samsung and we do NOT want to lose it.
Thank you for coming and introducing yourself!
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SamsungJohn said:
Yes, I have been watching you guys work and I must say is very fantastic. I am here on behalf of Samsung to establish a partnership. Do you guys suggest me posting this in the development forums?
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Hi,
I suggest you to post a thread in the i9000 section, you've post everywhere except there, while it's the "main" branch of SGS
Does Samsung has planned to implement the wonderful Supercurio's work (like Voodoo great sound improvements) and to work with him?
Edit : I've read your're also a developper, so yes, you should post in dev sections
can you post your @samsung email so that we can verify you are the real deal? not to be offensive, but the internet is rampant with trolls and cons.
Welcome and thanks for joining us. Make sure you check out our devs and themers. There is some amazing talent here. And these guys do this as a hobby!
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Hi,
I suggest you to post a thread in the i9000 section, you've post everywhere except there, while it's the "main" branch of SGS
Does Samsung has planned to implement the wonderful Supercurio's work (like Voodoo great sound improvements) and to work with him?
Edit : I've read your're also a developper, so yes, you should post in dev sections
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He's from samsung mobile usa that's probably why he didn't post on the i9000 section.
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yes please, please make sure and confirm to someone here that you are the actual Samsung developer, we have many of these kinds of little kids who fake this, and that makes our trust go down on the real people.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/348194-04-nov-icl23d-galaxy-nexus-boot-recovery-system-dump/
found it on android central
Idk if you read the post that you linked. It specifically asks not rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut
i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.
skeepon said:
i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.
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Much appreciated.
so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)
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Obviously you did not read the post to which you linked. It specifically says to NOT rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut
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Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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Simer03 said:
so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)
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It means that porting ics to other devices should devices should be a lot easier. The more pieces we have the better a chance of it happening.
denson9874 said:
Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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(I'm assuming u don't know who your talking)
If u consider xda a mall, then yes I am lol. Still as I said, its a matter of courtesy. We are under no obligation to follow any request from other forums(that I'm aware of at least). I said something because paul is a huge figure as Android community goes and he deserves respect as does everyone. Android community is built on the backs of people liked him.
In comparison your post is pointless & if it want explicitly directed at me I would be removing it as it is unconstructive and is a direct attack (for lack of a better weird) on another user which is not tolerated. as it its I'll let it slide, but don't try and push it, I doubt another mod will do the same.
Jug6ernaut
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Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks
Bump. This is important!
Sent from inside a black hole.
NOMIOMI said:
Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks
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We know about it mate...
Since Codeworks himself post it in CM9 thread N Original Development
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We know about it mate...
Since Codeworks himself post it in CM9 thread N Original Development
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Yes but since his thread is closed so it doesn't stay up...therefore users tend to neglect it. So making this thread is a great idea in order to get the most signatures. Am I right?
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signed. .
This is very important.
I signed it.
Signed
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Signed...
But I dnt think it will happen
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Signed in hopes they release it.
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NOMIOMI said:
Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks
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This was already posted 2 days ago..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526939
Use search before duping topics.
Signed thank you.
Signed ............
signed hope they release it
It's not that simple. Samsung use binaries they are simply not allowed to release source for, due to IP rights and stuff of their respective owners.
These hardware designers have no duty nor intention to release source for their IP just because they're used in conjunction with an open source OS.
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Title should be "Please Every US Samsung User Read This"
Asks for country then zip code ? Dafuq?
We dont use zip codes, heck we dont even have a functional mail service.
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Signed because this is important. And I don't think it's a bad idea to have a separate topic for this because not everyone lurks on the CM discussion/dev threads
NOT signed because this is really NOT important!
Samsung, will, I am sure, release what source code they can (for legal reasons, such as IP licensing) ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2.
They WON'T release the source code before that, as they are still changing the code and working on the features / bugs etc. to make ICS work on the SGS2.
No amount of b*tching from anyone will make a large multi-national like Samsung drastically change their development / release cycles *JUST* to keep a very small number of users happy.
... remember they're under NO OBLIGATION to release this source code in full... although I'm sure they will...
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NOT signed because this is really NOT important!
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WTF it's wrong with you? Who are you to say that?
Just because something isn't important for YOU, it does not mean that it isn't important at all! (No offense, but people like you annoy me really bad)
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Samsung, will, I am sure, release what source code they can (for legal reasons, such as IP licensing) ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2.
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That's what we ask for. But "ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2" could mean anything from the same day till the same decade.
I hope you understand what I'm up to.
Protip: If you don't like the idea, stay out of the thread or, at least, don't post.
Thanks
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TheSniperFan said:
WTF it's wrong with you? Who are you to say that?
Just because something isn't important for YOU, it does not mean that it isn't important at all! (No offense, but people like you annoy me really bad)
That's what we ask for. But "ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2" could mean anything from the same day till the same decade.
I hope you understand what I'm up to.
Protip: If you don't like the idea, stay out of the thread or, at least, don't post.
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What you don't seem to grasp is that Samsung DOES release its code within the month of releasing an official ROM (Update1, 2 and 3 of the Gingerbread source being the prime example of this). They release the source they CAN release. The petition is to put pressure on them for the rest of the source code, which I agree with stuclark, is quite possible will not happen. I signed the petition just in case to give an extra number to a petition I don't believe will matter.
stuclark is entitled to his opinion, as you are, so let him post what he wants. He did not do it in a cruel manner or with horrible intentions. He is in his right to not sign if he does not believe. This is just like a friend of mine who got bullied by students because she didn't wanna sign a petition.
And he is right you know, 5200 users as opposed to the millions of phones that were sold... Is a VERY small portion of the SGS2 community.
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stuclark is entitled to his opinion, as you are, so let him post what he wants. He did not do it in a cruel manner or with horrible intentions. He is in his right to not sign if he does not believe. This is just like a friend of mine who got bullied by students because she didn't wanna sign a petition.
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I have no problems when someone is entitled to his/her opinion.
BUT (s)he said that "it isn't important".
However, as there are people who sign this petition (or would, if they knew that it exists) it's BS.
(S)he should have said that it's not important in her/his opinion. That's quite a difference.
Your "argument" is nice too. The typical "you can't change anything anyway" argument.
Congratulations, if you think that way.
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Not sure if there's any creed to this post, but if so it certainly seems like someone with a a bit more knowledge than me will be able to get us a root sooner than later!
Root ANY device?
jcase and others have a wsy to root. They are working on making the process safe for everyone. You just have to be patient. According to the cubed(hopefully I spelled it right) projected 1-3 weeks. I just don't want the devs get pissed and say to everyone DO ONE
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@kmcphee:
Where do you get this information from? Do these guys have a twitter account?
Thank you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61753837
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Not sure this is cool. Spreading a leak of a rooting team from a hack job might be a bad omen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61736452
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61764848
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player911 said:
Not sure this is cool. Spreading a leak of a rooting team from a hack job might be a bad omen.
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This is not from a rooting team. This is from the italian company "Hacking Team" which is offering professional hacking-tools to their customers (also governments).
This company was hacked and all their exploits got published. This android stuff is one of many repositories with exploits of this company.
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jcase and others have a wsy to root. They are working on making the process safe for everyone. You just have to be patient. According to the cubed(hopefully I spelled it right) projected 1-3 weeks. I just don't want the devs get pissed and say to everyone DO ONE
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Yeah I'm aware they have root and they've had it for over a month with no release so they obviously haven't been successful in making it safe for everyone. Hopefully now instead of being a closed club we can have additional talented devs helping to speed the process along. It's not a slight against the guys that are working on it, but at the same time why limit ourselves to the 3-4 talented guys that are working on it when we have an entire community willing and (many) able to help.
really do hope there is some type of update to getting this phone rooted... if the camera wasnt so good i would have ditched this phone long ago
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really do hope there is some type of update to getting this phone rooted... if the camera wasnt so good i would have ditched this phone long ago
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Yeah mine unfortunately has been laying on my desk unused other than using the camera for the past couple weeks. I've been using my S6 in the meantime and grabbing the G4 when I know I'm going to want to take pictures. I want to like the phone and it's got so much potential but every time I swap my SIM into it within 20 minutes the same old problems rear their head and I use it for whatever I'm doing and then go back to the S6 :/
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Yeah I'm aware they have root and they've had it for over a month with no release so they obviously haven't been successful in making it safe for everyone. Hopefully now instead of being a closed club we can have more talented devs helping to speed the process along. It's not a slight against the guys that are working on it, but at the same time why limit ourselves to the 3-4 talented guys that are working on it when we have an entire community willing and (many) able to help.
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The devs working on it are some of the best in this community. Disrespecting them like that won't make it any better for us. Different devs work on different brands of phones. You're more than welcome to find your own method of root of you don't like their precautionary process.
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Dennisg34 said:
The devs working on it are some of the best in this community. Disrespecting them like that won't make it any better for us. Different devs work on different brands of phones. You're more than welcome to find your own method of root of you don't like their precautionary process.
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That's why I said they're very talented guys, the fact remains there are no results to show though. As I also said specifically, it's not a slight or disrespect against them in the least. I'm just pointing out that the more of these talented guys that we have working on it the better. I'm not sure why you feel the need to turn up in every thread pertaining to root for the G4 and try to derail it by ****ting on whatever the thread is about? Unless you've got a more constructive comment to provide I'd appreciate you not derailing this thread so that it gets closed as all the others have.
If I were able to come up with my own root method I would've. Since I'm not a developer and have little knowledge of these things I'd like to provide links like the one in the OP to those that can make better use of it than me as my contribution to the forum. If you have your own method of coming up with root or using the provided information usefully then please do, otherwise carry on.
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That's why I said they're very talented guys, the fact remains there are no results to show though. As I also said specifically, it's not a slight or disrespect against them in the least. I'm just pointing out that the more of these talented guys that we have working on it the better. I'm not sure why you feel the need to turn up in every thread pertaining to root for the G4 and try to derail it by ****ting on whatever the thread is about? Unless you've got a more constructive comment to provide I'd appreciate you not derailing this thread so that it gets closed as all the others have.
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Whether you think it wasn't, your comment was a dig at them. I don't "sh1t" on root threads. The only threads I input my frustration on are the people who keep repeating the same stuff that's been explained over and over again. You should take your own advice about constructive comments. Like I said, if you aren't happy with what the current devs are doing then find a root method yourself. They don't HAVE to do anything for us. They do this on their own time and don't have unlimited hours a day to work on things. Patience is a virtue. Root will be here within a couple weeks or less. If other devs want to take this and run with it, so be it, but it's not up to us to voice our opinions and commentary when we aren't donating any of our time and abilities in this community.
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As a friendly suggestion, boosting1bar, maybe use "other" instead of "more" when positing something similar to this sentence, "Hopefully now instead of being a closed club we can have more talented devs helping to speed the process along." I get what you meant to say, but to some, it might read as a qualitative statement (as in developers with "more" talent than the ones being referred to), rather than a quantitative one (i.e. additional developers).
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Whether you think it wasn't, your comment was a dig at them.
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Everyone has their own interpretation, I guess those of you looking to be negative will see it that way. Hopefully the others who can make use of the information will see it for what it actually is.
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Everyone has their own interpretation, I guess those of you looking to be negative will see it that way. Hopefully the others who can make use of the information will see it for what it actually is.
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When I read your post, I saw how people could misinterpret it, but I thought about it like this; A nicely packaged one-click-root from the current devs would be great, but if I could have root tomorrow, I wouldn't mind needing to stick my fingers in the guts of the android like the old days.
I'll risk a brick for a quick and dirty solution!
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As a friendly suggestion, boosting1bar, maybe use "other" instead of "more" when positing something similar to this sentence, "Hopefully now instead of being a closed club we can have more talented devs helping to speed the process along." I get what you meant to say, but to some, it might read as a qualitative statement (as in developers with "more" talent than the ones being referred to), rather than a quantitative one (i.e. additional developers).
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Well he said "more" in a sense of quantity not by any means of talent. I feel like if "other" was used it would be a little more disrespectful. But that's my opinion
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Well he said "more" in a sense of quantity not by any means of talent.
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I get that, but because of the way it was worded, it was clearly interpreted otherwise. Hence my suggestion.
As for "other" being more offensive, I'm not sure I see how, unless you elaborate. To me "other" would imply "other developers in addition to the ones mentioned." But I suppose there are always "other" ways to interpret it.
I will digress here, as I would prefer this thread be steeped in the semantics of rooting our common device as opposed to being bogged down in the semantics of intent.
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I will digress here, as I would prefer this thread be steeped in the semantics of rooting our common device as opposed to being bogged down in the semantics of intent.
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I will as well since the semantics will not get us anywhere. How are you liking your g4
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phineous said:
When I read your post, I saw how people could misinterpret it, but I thought about it like this; A nicely packaged one-click-root from the current devs would be great, but if I could have root tomorrow, I wouldn't mind needing to stick my fingers in the guts of the android like the old days.
I'll risk a brick for a quick and dirty solution!
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I you will risk a brick, There is another method "supposedly" with KingUser........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRxvdXeMtWY.
Don't risk your phone. But if there was somebody who knew about the matter and could look up the app without having to install it, it would be good.