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Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER

From the Android forums:
Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER
So a new exploit has been discovered and devs are working on it.
What this means to you.
1. This WILL help for those who leaked to get root.
2. DO NOT UPDATE! This includes to the OTA when it is released.
3. Be patient, this was only discovered today and is only a possible exploit.
Possible root exploit zifnab06.net

Alreadly was posted last night.

TDianna said:
From the Android forums:
Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER
So a new exploit has been discovered and devs are working on it.
What this means to you.
1. This WILL help for those who leaked to get root.
2. DO NOT UPDATE! This includes to the OTA when it is released.
3. Be patient, this was only discovered today and is only a possible exploit.
Possible root exploit zifnab06.net
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are you really that stupid? first of all, this was not found on android forums, but rather from our own zifnab on the XDA forums.
second, did you not notice zifnabs post about 5 below yours? incase you missed it, here a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678293
third, no root for leakers is guaranteed to work. an exploit has been found that MIGHT work not WILL.
fourth, no comment.

*Claps hands to ECLIPS3*
sorry i had to

No exploit was found, a vuln might of been found.
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Should we point and laugh at you, or just stare in disbelief...
Nice investigative work einstein. Its still even on the first page!

no need to be mean though guys, he just didnt pay attention, posted without looking. that doesnt mean hes stupid, just doesnt pay attention that well
dont trip man. these guys can be assholes. i know your just trying to be helpful
and yes, i did take that from here and posted on AF.

God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!

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Riley1524 said:
God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!
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haha true true true

Riley1524 said:
God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!
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would you like to bet money on that?
im only being bluntly honest to someone who cant look 5 posts down to see if it was already mentioned.

i dont know whats worse..the OP being misinformed
or
the jackass with the audacity to call someone stupid for being misinformed.
good job kids..

ECLIPS3 said:
would you like to bet money on that?
im only being bluntly honest to someone who cant look 5 posts down to see if it was already mentioned.
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I would be more than willing to bet on it! To get so butt hurt just because someone repost some informative info on the internet, and for you to use such mean, degrading language shows everyone how immature you are over something that is such a small issue. Get a life!

Riley1524 said:
I would be more than willing to bet on it! To get so butt hurt just because someone repost some informative info on the internet, and for you to use such mean, degrading language shows everyone how immature you are over something that is such a small issue. Get a life!
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thank you very much!

Forum rules, please read!
There seems to be a significant amount of animosity of late in the Android related forums. I'm not certain as to why this is, nor do I want to hear any reason for justification; what I do know is that it is unacceptable.
XDA is about bringing together folks who have similar passions about mobile technology. As the forum is accessed worldwide, you will encounter all types of folks from different walks of life; some of these folks will be extremely technical, others not. In all cases, it is the responsibility of all members to remain respectful of one another. We all have different opinions, we do not all have the same level of knowledge, and some folks are looking to feel like they are learning while trying to contribute.
Show maturity and professionalism by responding with helpful and constructive information. There is absolutely no reason to respond in a rude tone or to make someone feel stupid ... it is not constructive and serves no purpose.
I would remind members that the best moderation is self-moderation.
Forum rules, please read!

Has progress been made on G2 Root?

I've noticed that the thinktank topics aren't getting as many posts. Have the coders here given up or lost interest in the G2 root? Is it too hard?
I'm surprised no one has found a break through yet, especially the CM team. I want to hear what the coders have to say. Do you guys think it'll get rooted? How much work will it take?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Idk..but I know one thing...
This topic is gonna get MOVED! lol

you can follow some of the progress in the wiki
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Arcadia310 said:
I've noticed that the thinktank topics aren't getting as many posts. Have the coders here given up or lost interest in the G2 root? Is it too hard?
I'm surprised no one has found a break through yet, especially the CM team. I want to hear what the coders have to say. Do you guys think it'll get rooted? How much work will it take?
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WOW I'm still amazed that people who do not know how to read basic fourm notices/rules know about this site. I'm even more amazed they root and don't brick their phones. Spoiled little prince aren't we?

Arcadia310 said:
Have the coders here given up or lost interest in the G2 root? Is it too hard?
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lol no. hackers don't give up. its a matter of when, not if.

j.books said:
lol no. hackers don't give up. its a matter of when, not if.
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hopefully with no sodering....

I agree, it isn't a matter if but when and it may be soon. The guys have been hard at work. Besides the phone hasn't been out that long

They are not posting because they are working hard on making easier for lazy people like you.

Seriously, there is a wiki, chat logs, and IRC... the least you could do is look.

soundslikeabitch said:
WOW I'm still amazed that people who do not know how to read basic fourm notices/rules know about this site. I'm even more amazed they root and don't brick their phones. Spoiled little prince aren't we?
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WOW calm down. I'm amazed people like you take the time to post this drivel.
OP asked an appropriate question. Although discussion has moved elsewhere, it is still reasonable to ask if anything new has happened, as those rooting threads used to be rife with information and discussion then they completely degraded into headbutting about GPL and whether HTC was in violation or not.
This is a forum to discuss G2 Development, after all, and OP was a G2 Development related question. Even if you disagree, do you really need to take the time to troll, insult, and act all tough-guy in a forum? Try to keep the peace. Move on if you disagree with the post or topic.

Yeah, well if you haven't been checking out the wiki on a day to day basis, it sure does look like the G2 Root process is at a halt. Even if you follow #g2root, its still pretty dead.
But people have been making small updates the the Wiki about whats going on, but I think the masses are no longer participating in the root, only the guys that know the most about it.
I understand why you didn't see any progress though, but for some reason, people around here have to be a **** when people ask questions that aren't obvious to people that haven't read the entire forum inside and out over the years.

grivad said:
WOW calm down. I'm amazed people like you take the time to post this drivel.
OP asked an appropriate question. Although discussion has moved elsewhere, it is still reasonable to ask if anything new has happened, as those rooting threads used to be rife with information and discussion then they completely degraded into headbutting about GPL and whether HTC was in violation or not.
This is a forum to discuss G2 Development, after all, and OP was a G2 Development related question. Even if you disagree, do you really need to take the time to troll, insult, and act all tough-guy in a forum? Try to keep the peace. Move on if you disagree with the post or topic.
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I was bored at work. These people work hard for us for nothing but our respect. If you respect them you would keep with their very few requests.

soundslikemitch said:
I was bored at work. These people work hard for us for nothing but our respect. If you respect them you would keep with their very few requests.
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Dude, its a discussion forum. If you only have time to look at the forum every few days, it DOES appear that nothing has happened. And I'm sure there was about 100 other people that were asking the same questions. The whole point of these threads is to communicate with each other.
The open source community isn't just for hackers and programmers. Regular people like to root there phones too.

I have to admit this place is full of douchebags.
People have the right to ask questions. It is a forum. We’re here to share information, opinions and help each others.
What gives u the right to judge or attack others? If you don’t want to help, simply don’t reply. It is that simple.
Back to the topic, I believe small progresses are being made. It is just matter of time.

Why is it that when ever some one asks about root on the G2 every one gets pissed off? I mean we are allowed to ask questions right? Lets not make this thread a dildo as well lmao
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That's some bs. Dude asks a question and people want to flame him. If he's asking its cuz he don't know obviously. So quit being douche bags.
Sent from my HTC Vision G2

Here is some common sense, if you follow along you would notice that VISIONary is filling the gap for some basic root needs, (wifi tether, disabling packages, ect.) once those basic needs were met the masses no longer gave a **** about the root. Hence the slow down in postings. There are people still working on a perm root, myself being one of them. There are just lots of dead ends and trial and error.

mgshute said:
Here is some common sense, if you follow along you would notice that VISIONary is filling the gap for some basic root needs, (wifi tether, disabling packages, ect.) once those basic needs were met the masses no longer gave a **** about the root. Hence the slow down in postings. There are people still working on a perm root, myself being one of them. There are just lots of dead ends and trial and error.
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Point proven

I'm just going to stop posting here entirely. I ask a simple question because I obviously don't live on this forum and don't have time to read every single post made. There are some cool users here but a lot of you are dicks for no reason. I don't browse this forum as heavily and thoroughly as you guys do, give me a damn break. I get flamed and called lazy because these coders are hard at work. Really? I'm a full time student and athlete but now I'm lazy for not sitting in front of my computer all day writing code? Get over yourselves.
Can a mod please lock this topic.
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I know its not the same but...
When a new version of ubuntu is pushed out for beta testing, ubuntuforums hosts a development forum where everyone is invited to ask questions and participate. I'm not a developer but have used Linux for over 10 years at a few levels. I suggest that we approach rooting the G2 with the same enthusiasm and verve that the ubuntu community does with a new beta, RC, and release. If we start clamping down on asking questions no one will answer them either. I don't really think that's the purpose of this forum at all. We're all after the same thing. its either information or access to information. Humbly suggest we all seek ways to disclose and discuss and not "ivory tower" the information.
Thanks.

Thank you for everything.

I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob

Keep up the great work , Sir !

Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
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WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!

Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
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im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David

ptfdmedic said:
I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.

Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
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You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!

machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?

Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
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machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?

JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro

im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...

JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?

Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
Sent from an Epic with 4G

Pete720 said:
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
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Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...

Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
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Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
Sent from my AOSP+ Premium ROM

What's so special about cm7?

Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.

You just wanted to know something that is well documented, so you start a new thread to ask, instead of reading? If you're too lazy to read the CM website and the existing Epic CM thread (mostly the website, though, for the feature list and such), then we're too lazy to hold your hand.
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jnadke said:
It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Thanks dude. I wanted to get input on why it's special to certain people. Thanks man.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.

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Um you kind of DID ask for his input by asking a question on a public forum...
why don't you grow up??

Jackalo said:
First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Great response. As far as that one guy I had to go in on I'm going say this if you agree with a post don't troll on it. Now back to you I just really got into rooting and trying roms thanks to xda I may never go back to a stock rom again. My current rom is pretty damn good I may say. I'm looking for a pernament rom to use until I get another phone. So when cm7 is done I may have to give that a test drive
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Jackalo said:
First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Styles420 is not a troll.
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Styles420 is not a troll.
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ac16313 said:
Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Thanks for the support, guys - the problem with issues like this is that, in order to be able to follow the rules, one must be able to read them, and if he could do that then he could have read the answer to this same question without re posting it
And if you read his response, it kinda sounds like his frustration is sexual in nature...
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Yes he is was trolling. When you go on threads and post comments that not of any help to subject it's a form of trolling. When people like to say things like use the search button instead of just helping the thread guess what that's also trolling..
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And when people start new threads for old questions that have already been asked and answered?
Don't jump down my throat because you feel foolish for making an ass of yourself. You have two other XDA veterans telling you that the mistake was yours, and you start hurling poorly formed insults... way to prove their point by example
As for the part about saying to search instead of helping the thread... if you search, that is helping the thread. If we just answer the same question each time, it only further encourages people not to search, which hurts the thread. Don't accuse me of not helping until you're willing to do your part to help as well - we call that being a hypocritic
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I've posted a similar thread on this topic a few months ago. I honestly just had no idea what was so special/unique with the Cyanogen project versus AOSP. I even did the research before asking. The information I found didn't really give me an idea of how different the two really are.
I did think styles420 was a bit out of line in his/her reply; however, your response (OP) was completely uncalled for. The OP definitely broke XDA rules of conduct in the reply.
To the OP:
CM About page
There are still some items not working 100%, and therefore it's not production ready yet. It will get there in time. Asking for ETA's of releases is usually frowned upon.
To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.

nikon120 said:
To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.
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I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
EDIT: I got curious, so I checked - he started two new threads for old questions, one about Siri (search would have brought up Zanderman's Iris thread), and one about a gmail problem that I will admit was harder to find an answer to.
He also asked for an ETA in the EH17 based ACS ICS thread...
OP, just do a little more digging before starting new threads - you're putting your username on the front page of threads, drawing attention both good and bad. It's nothing personal, but if we make exceptions for you, we have to throw the rules out the window to make exceptions for everyone who breaks them.
And calm down with the foul language and childish insults - you'll get more help if you're at least polite when you make a newb mistake
So, truce?
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Very well said, Nikon, you took what I wanted to say and packaged it up neatly and succinctly!
Yes, the OP should have done a bit more research on his own (he's obviously been on XDA a while and should know that's the norm), but I felt that Styles didn't help the situation at all--too often people around here get an elitist attitude toward ignorant folks. As I understand it, XDA is here to expand everyone's knowledge of our phones and therefore people should not explicitly state "Go figure it out." If you don't want to help them / hold their hand, fine, just don't post at all. Styles420, obviously you get tired of people asking redundant questions that they could have found the answer to--I get that. But I get tired of seeing all the smartass, elitist answers that do just as much to clutter up XDA as the ignorant posts.
To the OP: your response was way overboard. It's a free country, I can't tell you not to feel that way, nor can I tell you not to post such things. But I can tell you this: that type of offensive behavior on XDA is a surefire way to have sanctions brought against you. The mods around here don't put up with that sort of thing. I understand your frustration, but XDA is not the place to vent in such a childish, immature way.
/parenting session

This devolved rather quickly.
But to answer the op, CM7 is a highly customizable, low battery consumption version of the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) version of Android.
You have less "for-show" frills, such as Touchwiz and purely aesthetic additions on your stock rom. Battery life is much better and over all experience seems more upbeat from users.
And yes, that guy was trolling, but your response was highly inappropriate OP. Keep that to you and your friends, as in the public, it just questions your maturity.
Good luck and wishes in your future Android adventures.

styles420 said:
I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Are you a moderator? No? Well leave the forum policing to those qualified, as your posts seem to show your ineptitude for such a task.
Have a nice day.

styles420 said:
I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Fair enough Styles, I fully understand that sentiment! I agree that people should not be coddled, especially if they should know better--and with a post count of 250+, blackdragon79 obviously has been around the block at XDA. Maybe the middle ground between holding his hand and blowing him off is the best answer, such as linking to the information to help himself like Nikon did. You don't have to waste much effort, and it encourages him to "figure it out for himself," but at least gives him a push in the right direction.
Oh, and I realize I'm getting on my high horse with these two posts, so feel free to tell me to F*** off, LOL! I just feel compelled to act as a social mediator on here sometimes.

If you didn't build it, don't complain about it.

Just want to put it out there. The devs on this community forum work hard to supply Roms, mods, kernels, whatever. If you didn't build a particular ROM or mod and wish to use it. Don't complain if it is not exactly what you want. Just don't use. A great Dev shut down his thread today because a few people complained. One or two bad apples spoiled it for the rest of us. I hope they're happy. I know I am not.
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lowvolt1 said:
Just want to put it out there. The devs on this community forum work hard to supply Roms, mods, kernels, whatever. If you didn't build a particular ROM or mod and wish to use it. Don't complain if it is not exactly what you want. Just don't use. A great Dev shut down his thread today because a few people complained. One or two bad apples spoiled it for the rest of us. I hope they're happy. I know I am not.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
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Wow! Is it that the root tools you made a joke about at the end of your post?
Also...
I feel XDA should allow for more strictness in regards to non recognized devs and such making a post, users violating forum rules, etc. A lot of people make an account and find post thru google or just feel a undeserved sense of entitlement, it's unfortunate....
I would even recommend a system where you join XDA and have to demonstrate awareness of the rules by completing a tutorial & completing a questionnaire of some sort. This would ensure people read and know the way XDA works and would allow for moderators to come down harder on violaters. another option is more moderators.
Just suggestions. XDA is our community to uphold and maintain and I will do what I need to so it remains a place where hard works gets appreciated and respected! I have loved XDA since I began tinkering on my windows mobile HTC phone in 2008! I refuse hear things like this happening!

lowvolt1 said:
Just want to put it out there...
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I have to agree with that. Just today I joined a G+ community for a Dev's beta app ... but after several hours, just plain got tired of the flood of posts with "Please add this and that 'n that ..." or "I have high standards and would like to see ....". "Pleeeeese add this right away....", etc etc ad nauseum. Unfortunately, it seems the only way to keep forums on-topic and constructive these days would require moderating all posts, except for those who have a proven track record of posting responsibly.

drago10029 said:
Wow! Is it that the root tools you made a joke about at the end of your post?
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I'm not sure I understand your question here.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.

lowvolt1 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question here.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
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I thought your sig was part of the post as a joke. like the rooting tool called slap my moto, that may be the wrong name. either way doesn't matter, I got the point of your poiint