Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.
You just wanted to know something that is well documented, so you start a new thread to ask, instead of reading? If you're too lazy to read the CM website and the existing Epic CM thread (mostly the website, though, for the feature list and such), then we're too lazy to hold your hand.
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It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Thanks dude. I wanted to get input on why it's special to certain people. Thanks man.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Um you kind of DID ask for his input by asking a question on a public forum...
why don't you grow up??
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First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Great response. As far as that one guy I had to go in on I'm going say this if you agree with a post don't troll on it. Now back to you I just really got into rooting and trying roms thanks to xda I may never go back to a stock rom again. My current rom is pretty damn good I may say. I'm looking for a pernament rom to use until I get another phone. So when cm7 is done I may have to give that a test drive
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Jackalo said:
First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Styles420 is not a troll.
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Styles420 is not a troll.
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Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Thanks for the support, guys - the problem with issues like this is that, in order to be able to follow the rules, one must be able to read them, and if he could do that then he could have read the answer to this same question without re posting it
And if you read his response, it kinda sounds like his frustration is sexual in nature...
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Yes he is was trolling. When you go on threads and post comments that not of any help to subject it's a form of trolling. When people like to say things like use the search button instead of just helping the thread guess what that's also trolling..
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And when people start new threads for old questions that have already been asked and answered?
Don't jump down my throat because you feel foolish for making an ass of yourself. You have two other XDA veterans telling you that the mistake was yours, and you start hurling poorly formed insults... way to prove their point by example
As for the part about saying to search instead of helping the thread... if you search, that is helping the thread. If we just answer the same question each time, it only further encourages people not to search, which hurts the thread. Don't accuse me of not helping until you're willing to do your part to help as well - we call that being a hypocritic
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I've posted a similar thread on this topic a few months ago. I honestly just had no idea what was so special/unique with the Cyanogen project versus AOSP. I even did the research before asking. The information I found didn't really give me an idea of how different the two really are.
I did think styles420 was a bit out of line in his/her reply; however, your response (OP) was completely uncalled for. The OP definitely broke XDA rules of conduct in the reply.
To the OP:
CM About page
There are still some items not working 100%, and therefore it's not production ready yet. It will get there in time. Asking for ETA's of releases is usually frowned upon.
To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.
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To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.
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I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
EDIT: I got curious, so I checked - he started two new threads for old questions, one about Siri (search would have brought up Zanderman's Iris thread), and one about a gmail problem that I will admit was harder to find an answer to.
He also asked for an ETA in the EH17 based ACS ICS thread...
OP, just do a little more digging before starting new threads - you're putting your username on the front page of threads, drawing attention both good and bad. It's nothing personal, but if we make exceptions for you, we have to throw the rules out the window to make exceptions for everyone who breaks them.
And calm down with the foul language and childish insults - you'll get more help if you're at least polite when you make a newb mistake
So, truce?
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Very well said, Nikon, you took what I wanted to say and packaged it up neatly and succinctly!
Yes, the OP should have done a bit more research on his own (he's obviously been on XDA a while and should know that's the norm), but I felt that Styles didn't help the situation at all--too often people around here get an elitist attitude toward ignorant folks. As I understand it, XDA is here to expand everyone's knowledge of our phones and therefore people should not explicitly state "Go figure it out." If you don't want to help them / hold their hand, fine, just don't post at all. Styles420, obviously you get tired of people asking redundant questions that they could have found the answer to--I get that. But I get tired of seeing all the smartass, elitist answers that do just as much to clutter up XDA as the ignorant posts.
To the OP: your response was way overboard. It's a free country, I can't tell you not to feel that way, nor can I tell you not to post such things. But I can tell you this: that type of offensive behavior on XDA is a surefire way to have sanctions brought against you. The mods around here don't put up with that sort of thing. I understand your frustration, but XDA is not the place to vent in such a childish, immature way.
/parenting session
This devolved rather quickly.
But to answer the op, CM7 is a highly customizable, low battery consumption version of the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) version of Android.
You have less "for-show" frills, such as Touchwiz and purely aesthetic additions on your stock rom. Battery life is much better and over all experience seems more upbeat from users.
And yes, that guy was trolling, but your response was highly inappropriate OP. Keep that to you and your friends, as in the public, it just questions your maturity.
Good luck and wishes in your future Android adventures.
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I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Are you a moderator? No? Well leave the forum policing to those qualified, as your posts seem to show your ineptitude for such a task.
Have a nice day.
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I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Fair enough Styles, I fully understand that sentiment! I agree that people should not be coddled, especially if they should know better--and with a post count of 250+, blackdragon79 obviously has been around the block at XDA. Maybe the middle ground between holding his hand and blowing him off is the best answer, such as linking to the information to help himself like Nikon did. You don't have to waste much effort, and it encourages him to "figure it out for himself," but at least gives him a push in the right direction.
Oh, and I realize I'm getting on my high horse with these two posts, so feel free to tell me to F*** off, LOL! I just feel compelled to act as a social mediator on here sometimes.
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Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
All devs,moderators and admins.....this message NEEDS to be heard by EVERYONE on EVERY device forum!! The people here who actually care about your work cant lose you guys!
Wrong section
This is for developing for the Vibrant.
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Right, there are no modified ROMs at all on this board................... Go away boy.
are you drunk?
WTF? Really? Your idea to fix the issue to feel exists is to improperly post that which could easily be seen as inflammatory in what is supposed to be a development thread? I'm sure your post will meet with much positive response.
I second the question.. You drunk?
You gotta be high. That felt a while lot like when stoned hippies tell you the solutions to the world's problems.
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Wrong section. But he does have a point, too many people are *****ing in these dev threads.
In the words of Rodney King, cant we all just get along?
What's next, a manifesto?
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First off, try posting in the correct forum. This is the Vibrant Development forum.
2nd, if people don't like it here they don't have to read or post here. It's that simple.
Have a nice day.
Moved to general as this does not pertain to development.
I recently wrote this article for the homepage on XDA: http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Recommending less Blow and more Ludes. Also, Stewing...your thread is spamish to begin with as the subject line gives no clue about the body, ehem, Complaint.
Misleading subject line but he does make a point though it may be exaggerated a bit. Unfortunately the problem is stupid doesn't know it's stupid.
Arent you like the rest? Making another useless thread in the wrong section in the first place. Also writing in caps doesnt make it more important, it makes you look that your craving for attention
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Don't all developers pretty much receive treatment like this? By that I mean in any market, not just cell phones.
There are always jackasses that complain about everything, and the people that love and appreciate all their hard work pretty much go unnoticed compared to the unhappy obnoxious ones.
Its a reflection of society in general where we tend to focus on the bad instead of the good. The people who appreciate and respect devs are out there, they just aren't as loud and annoying as everyone else who has a huge sense of entitlement and zero patience.
Trying to change their behavior seems pretty impossible short if banning them, which also seems improbable.
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Developers like the flaming and the trolling, its what gives us a smile everyday.. duh... without it we would just be angry drunks who play with computers and phones.
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Developers like the flaming and the trolling, its what gives us a smile everyday.. duh... without it we would just be angry drunks who play with computers and phones.
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You sir are a TROLL, ye must be banned this instant.
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Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
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I'm with everyone else, this thread was not necessary, put your energy elsewhere.
I find it funny that he posted this topic in the Dev section talking about how people post about crap not related to development. Way to go. You deserve a cookie.
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Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
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did your wife just yell at you or something!
We seriously need to calm down and post in a civilized manner. I see far too many immature and unnecessary posts that only flame at other posts. There is no reason to tell someone they're stupid for posting something from an ignorant's perspective. If they don't know and they're asking, then politely point them in the right direction. No need to bash on them. Granted, there are some pretty stupid/idiotic questions asked here (some intended for trolling) but still, DONT FEED THE FIRE. Let it go, calm down, and post like they are right in front of you. DONT HIDE BEHIND THE INTERNET TO GET AWAY WITH DISRESPECTING OTHERS! It seriously gets old fast. Act like adults please!
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Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i see nowhere on the general section (which, this kind of topic would be under) where this topic is mentioned. Because apparently, it seems like the Epic forums are filled with little high schoolers who think swearing is cool. Because honestly, it isn't.
BUT, if there is a thread requesting others to be more civilized, then I apologize.
Not this topic, but other topics. Sorry, I should've worded it differently.
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+1. This forum has become unwelcoming and almost frightening to post a question within. People around these parts need to chill out.
ONe of the best threads I've read in a while. There are a lot of times where I see people as a question and instead of getting a simple answer they get a bash from someone. We all need to understand that nit everyone knows the same thing. What may be a dumb question to you is not to the op and other people that need to know too. If you have nothing better to do then flame people for their questions don't come on here. Go somewhere else. We obviously dont need you. Thanks
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Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i c wut u did der
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I totally agree with you. I know if ii ask any question and any little highschool or immature brat insults me. Don't go crying to the mods about me handing your ass to you on a wooden plate. So kids let's be nice and remember what we were taught in kindergarden "the golden rule".
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Replies are always "wow. You should've searched." Um...the xda app doesn't search. It fc's. And also, whosdaman likes to close general threads about people that wanna know thins about froyo or any other "GENERAL" question.
Not everyone is on these forums 24/7 to be knowing that updates that were announced weeks ago were suddenly canceled.
Not everyone is tech savvy enough to use odin.
Not everyone undertsands the differences between dk28 and di18.
If you're gonna respond by telling someone they should search before posting, why not give them a link to follow leading them to the appropriate thread? That way they can see "oh crap. I should search next time, cuz that's what I was looking for." Assuming they're not on the app, ofcourse.
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And sometimes you follow the instructions and it just won't work for you. (I know, I couldn't get odin to work for me until I used a different cable.) I had lots of help down to step by step instructions. Without the help, I would still have a dead Epic.
I also second keeping thing civil. If we don't we will chase away a lot of good people and information.
George
I agree with the OP every bit.
And besides, at one point even the most tech savvy people were noobs. Everyone had to start somewhere, and asking questions is a good way to learn. Now the pointless questions are about the "delayed" updates Samsung promises. Although, there is no point to get into that once again. The search feature on the XDA app doesn't work, which is also not helpful to new members at all. I agree, just point them in the right direction, and move on, without the snotty attitude. It really isn't that difficult.
I'll be honest, I'm only 14, and I know better than to be rude or swear on the internet when someone isn't familiar with something new.
Hi peeps. Im starting to get really ticked off by the branding string in the build properties.
What do i have to do in build.prop to stop the android market seeing my xoom as a verizon device and see it instead as a viewsonic gtab or whatever?
Why is everyone posting questions in the dev section?
Because they can't read
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let me explain why...
its because i am a dev myself, and i have been here long enough to know that at this stage in a subforum's development no-one from the dev community ever looks in the general subsection
welcome to reality
also, you should understand this perfectly well having joined in 2009... or are you just a snob with a post count?
One might ask what he is implying you cannot read.
Nothing we say will help. Makes me sad they don't know how to follow the rules and have common sense. All you get by posting a question in a dev forum instead of general or q/a is people telling you to post in the right thread. Just do it and they will help.
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Maybe you'll get a better answer if you try posting in the right section for considering yourself a dev you're good at being stupid
Create a "XOOM Hacking Help and Advanced Discussion" Subforum.
Problem solved.
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Maybe you'll get a better answer if you try posting in the right section for considering yourself a dev you're good at being stupid
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It's hilarious how so many people on forums get their geek tighty-whities in such a bunch when (god forbid!) people don't follow perfect forum etiquette, even when they have a legitimately good reason for doing so. Get over yourselves.
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It's hilarious how so many people on forums get their geek tighty-whities in such a bunch when (god forbid!) people don't follow perfect forum etiquette, even when they have a legitimately good reason for doing so. Get over yourselves.
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He had no good reason he considered himself a dev and yet doesn't have common sense to post his question in the right section
a Dev? Are you kidding? His app is still stuck on beta test stage and they couldn't make it done....
Perhaps if any of you tight-ass teenagers had read my reasons for posting in this subsection (its the third post, refer to it if you please), you would think again.
And my app is not stuck in beta, the draft is on the market and all the beta testers have already received their free rc. They are all happy with it.
If you really knew this forum, you would not be saying those silly, childish things. And if you dont know how to help, speak less lest you hinder instead.
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Perhaps if any of you tight-ass teenagers had read my reasons for posting in this subsection (its the third post, refer to it if you please), you would think again.
And my app is not stuck in beta, the draft is on the market and all the beta testers have already received their free rc. They are all happy with it.
If you really knew this forum, you would not be saying those silly, childish things. And if you dont know how to help, speak less lest you hinder instead.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler
I think if you posted in the right section this would have been answered regardless.... if you really knew this forum you would know that you were gonna get flamed.
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Yeah... thats not what im looking for as its a cdma verizon only device at this point.
Also chongo, i know this forum, and i know flamers too. Theyre kids with nothing better to do. Again, refer to the third post in this thread for a grown-ups explanation.
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Yeah... thats not what im looking for as its a cdma verizon only device at this point.
Also chongo, i know this forum, and i know flamers too. Theyre kids with nothing better to do. Again, refer to the third post in this thread for a grown-ups explanation.
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I did read it and I don't need a "grown ups" explanation... do you need an explanation of forum rules? No I didn't think so... like I said posting this in the right section would have gotten you better results. Disagree? Then enjoy your "answers"
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You are contributing to these answers. I suppose you like being a flamer. The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules.
If you were a grown up guy, you would be doing something useful. Perhaps graduating from 'young android enthusiast' to 'productive member of society'...
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You are contributing to these answers. I suppose you like being a flamer. The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules.
If you were a grown up guy, you would be doing something useful. Perhaps graduating from 'young android enthusiast' to 'productive member of society'...
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I actually was contributing by trying to tell you where to post to get the best results.... not some mindless attack. "The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules." Anonymity? Actually my name is Morgan Brant and I live at 2215 ontario street. Do I really need a safe place to talk... no not really... oh and a productive member of society? I'm actually a full time student and a full time photographer... don't believe me? Maybe you can do more then check my "Bio" when trying to school me with your pathetic elitest attitude.
www.chongophoto.com edit: not promoting myself what so ever... unless your in vancouver
I'd say back to topic... but really come on... lets just let the mods shut this down or better yet move it to Q/A
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God bless Akmerica. (Am I allowed to post in here since I only half develope using app inventor? I did make my own speed dial app where u press a pic to call someone... thats got to count)
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Wow. Do much hatred. Yes, technically questions don't belong here. But, if he had worded the post differently, nobody would mind. "[PROJ] debranding the XOOM let's figure out how to change the build.prop..."
Now, since we're already here and on the subject... anyone had any success with this?
Apparently being a "DEV" means you no longer have to fallow forum rules and you can pretty much do what ever you want. Sounds cool..
Also since your a developer shouldn't you already know how to change the build.prop?
I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob
Keep up the great work , Sir !
Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
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WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!
Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
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im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David
ptfdmedic said:
I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
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You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...
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Yes, yes you are.
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?
Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
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Pete720 said:
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
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Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...
Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
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Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
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I for one like the idea of a general topic thread, but I don't understand why someone that trolls is not banned or their comments removed instead of closing the thread.
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+1
I agree completely. I'm not trolling with that statement either.
Honestly, now that we have 2 mods another thread COULD be opened. The probability of conflict due to misunderstandings, differences of opinion and, perhaps for some, dislike of a fellow member or members is still pretty high.
XDA stands for something special. It's a community of people trying to advance its knowledge through helping and sharing. Sometimes egos, not excluding mine, get inflated and the perceived need to stand up for what one feels is right becomes too much to let lie.
Sometimes people just throw out bait to see who bites. These instigators are known as "trolls."
The latter is frowned upon, but not necessarily wrong, as long as things aren't pushed too far. The former, well, good luck with that one. Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Doing something wrong just to do it is not ok. Doing something wrong because you feel you are fighting for something important is another story. There is the letter of the law, and the spirit in which the law is written.
Again, I'm honestly NOT trolling.
The few should not be allowed to ruin it for the many.
It would be a great day for our XDA community if our senior moderators would embrace this philosophy and push for this change.
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I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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I completely agree with you, I think part of it is people want the cool new stuff without actually reading and learning a thing or two; while it's understandable that you may not have time to look things up, we say these things for the benefit of users themselves. Trust me, the benefits of looking up things on your own and asking after you feel you've searched your ass off are far more greater than just being told everything. Going from releasing a port, to building from source, to being asked by awesome to join team inferno and learning some github all within my first few months of developing on my first and only android phone; I'd say I'm pretty good proof of how effective doing a bit of research is (seeing as I had no prior knowledge on how to do ANYTHING but flash a rom). It's not like you're being asked to read a 700 page documentation on the android system... and although better moderation required us to lose our BS thread and possibly some infractions to some long-time users, it's good that we're starting to get that old sense of moderation back...
tldr; XDA isn't here to hold your hand (so don't assume it is), but if you put some time into reading and learning the benefits are basically limitless.
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I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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i agree. the stupidity around here is just amazing. take the most recent one i've seen for example. i'm not going to name any names, but you know who you are.
this guy comes around and posts a question in the General Section. that's already a mistake. who doesn't know that Questions go in the Q & A Section? and then, since he didn't get any answers, he ventures on over to the Development Section, literally picks a random thread, and posts his question there. his question has NOTHING to do with what the topic is about. completely unacceptable. and then, when another forum member tells him that he shouldn't do that, what does he do? he goes on calling names. hey man, it's not our fault you have no respect for others. all this person could've done was just SEARCH. Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it, i don't care, you could've at least SEARCHED before you asked. yeah okay, maybe if you had only a few post counts, then i would forgive you, but no, this is a Senior Member, with over 200 posts! things like this shouldn't even happen from such an "experienced xda user". and i'm seeing things like this more and more everyday, not just in in Glacier forums, but pretty much everywhere else. noobs come along with only a few posts, and they see that they need 10+ posts to post in the Development Sections. so what do they do? they spam all the other sections and threads until they get more than 10 posts, then they begin spamming the Development Sections with their stupid questions that could've been answered by a search. and that's not all. since they can't spam the Development Sections with under 10 posts, they spam the DEVELOPER'S PMS. i have over 1000 PMs in my inbox, i'd say over 3/4 of them are useless garbage asked by idiots who are too lazy to search.
now about the off topic threads:
i really like the idea, it's a great way for forum members to hang out and have friendly chats for one another, but one thing i had noticed going on in the old BS Thread was that noobs with less than 10 posts would come here and post until they get 10 posts. i actually even read some other posts that encouraged this action. so while the off topic threads are great, they also have downsides to them as well.
IMO, we should just make it that you can only post in the Q & A Section until you have a certain amount of posts, cause honestly, most of the first few posts are just plain stupid questions that can be answered, by a simple search.
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Benignoid said:
I thought this was a community? What kind of community can't even communicate for fun with each other and just talk? Dang the government! (the mods) *end rant*
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I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.
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I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.
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Dibs?
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Dibs?
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There are no dibs. THIS IS WAR!!!
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Dibs?
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Do it.
Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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md1008 said:
Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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No I think we're lucky to get one
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