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[Q] where the **** is the best kernel dev thor?

Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?

PsYCoR said:
Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?
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Where do we sign to get him back?

wait what happend?

nycbjr said:
wait what happend?
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Did he quit because of the HTCClay ordeal? If so All those folks went to rootzwiki.com

His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law. Some jerk took that to mean he was banned or punished or in some way unwelcome at XDA, which is false. The OP deserves a nice temp ban for having such a glaring attitude towards the administrators here at XDA who are doing their best to keep this site running. But, for someone with one post, I can't see that doing any good. Best to just ignore the troll till the admins remove this thread.

Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.

daveid said:
His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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i can't belive it.

Johnny0906 said:
Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.
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Sorry, but I LOL´ed imagining you saying that. Anyway, that sucks =(

daveid said:
His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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That actually seems reasonably fair... Everyone is angry at Acer for doing that, I don't see why Thor should be held to a different standard. Having said that, his kernel was great... I hope he comes back and plays according to the rules.
With any luck this was all a big misunderstanding, and he just hadn't started a GIT yet but was about to, or something like that.

I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.

Johnny0906 said:
I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.
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We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?

FloatingFatMan said:
We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?
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As I say, let's just hope this was all a big misunderstanding. Thor was asked for his source a few times in that thread, and he never responded to those requests publicly. I don't know what happened behind the scenes though, as you say. Perhaps a mod can clarify?

Of course they would... They ban all the best devs over stupid $h*t. Android is "open source" but now we say he was banned for not including source? Thanks conan keep up the great work...
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Please let's get Thor and his work back !

Wtf is this s%%%???
First there's not even ONE mod to sticky the important threads and now some N00B comes to play sheriff in town and kick the DEV who brought CLOCKWORKMOD to ICONIA out?
Who the F%%% is this brilliant MOD???
WHY the F%%% don't you CLOSE ALL 3.1 topics and ask acer for a 3.1 source?
EVER HEARD OF ASKING? NICELY?
Thor was rebuilding his kernel from ground up anyway.
WTF? is this XDA OR CCCP?

Mod who bans = CONANTROUTMAN... Send all requests to him ;-)
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Please post the C&D if it REALLY was a legal thing
Seriously? Because he hasn't had time to post the source up? Really?
This isn't anything new even here on XDA, and as far as being legally compliant, show us the cease and desist order, please. In any event that's no cause to get a poster banned and XDA had plenty of occurrences on significantly less open platforms where they didn't ban the poster, but locked the content due to C&Ds.
Thor did significant amounts of work here to get us what we want. Acer and pretty much 100% of corporate industries are limited to what they can do or say because of much greater liability of what they produce. One user/fan/coder posting here not so much liability as none of it is anywhere near official.
So, again please post the C&D
Even if he was being a total jackass and blurted out obscenities AT mods, a temp ban would all that it would warrant.

CONANTROUTMAN banned him or CONANTROUTMAN is in charge of mods overdoing their job?

Who banned him?

This is crazy about one month ago we didn't have recovery, Then Thor arrived and fixed that he is very important to the development of the a 500, Lets hope this is temporary, Without devs like Thor we get nowhere on our devices, I have seen in the past when devs have fights with mods the devs leave for good. Its almost like they get jealous of the work they do.
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CM7 Release Candidate soon? (Purely Speculation!)

In the official post for CyanogenMod 7 it says
"There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch."
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Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
Source: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-1-released

The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.

SirFork said:
The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.
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Once its in RC don't they give it to the official team for merging? that's what i thought happened from my understanding.

There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch.
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That's from the official Cyanogenmod site, which has no affiliation with the development of CM7 for the Atrix.

Yeah, but the current team is responsible for making the atrix compatible with cm7 (thus, they're doing most of the work). Once that's done, they'll be giving it to the official team so they can support it.
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I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had

thewarhawk said:
I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had
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The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.

SirFork said:
Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.
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I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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IUH1991 said:
I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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This is probably a huge factor along with the massive number of idiots who fail to read directions properly and end up with bootloops and blame the dev's for making faulty software.

I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.

Phalanx7621 said:
I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.
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HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!

lilhaiti said:
HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!
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"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.

edgeicator said:
"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.
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It's actually kinda explained in my post.

lilhaiti said:
It's actually kinda explained in my post.
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Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.

IUH1991 said:
The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Sadly I don't think they'll be having Webtop on Cyanogenmod. Last I heard it was too much work.

if cm7 allowed me to play my movies from my phone on tv when i am away from home i would be on it like a fat kid on a smartie!

edgeicator said:
Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.
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Nicely put...

Ratchet556 said:
Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
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dumbass....

sanriver12 said:
dumbass....
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We dont sit here and update or post all day because its un needed, exhausting on its own, and frusterating to the point of cursing. I can once a week come to this thread and after going through 20+ pages find maybe one thing worth replying to, like this time and the gentleman that requested a few pages back that i call this kang and not official ?!? Why because we have waited till we deemed ready to merge ? Everything we released has been stable and useable i have not touched another rom in months, we will merge shortly, it will be up todate 2.3.7 or what ever uptodate is than. We are all running 2.3.7 curently , there has not been another release because IOO there has not been enough added fixes that we felt the need to do so yet. Mostly we have been waiting on FP. I have it working 100% fine actually better than stock, but it haz created a bug with calls when enabled for an unknown reason. I have been working on the same bug for over 2 weeks . Once again iwasted more time i could have spent on the bug to reply to those of you that felt i needed to "give updates" to a 170 page hell hole where no one reads in the first place Anyhow we appreciate your all excited , so are we , mostly so we can stop working keep in mind we want itcompleted and working obiously more than you do so either relax and wait or keep yelling inhere like a jakaninny IDGAF, but i will post updates when i am ready as will the other team members. End of story
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I'm going to ignore that for the soul fact I was right. From the CM7 thread.
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Galaxy Nexus Boot, Recovery, and System dump (NEW!!)

http://android.modaco.com/topic/348194-04-nov-icl23d-galaxy-nexus-boot-recovery-system-dump/
found it on android central

Idk if you read the post that you linked. It specifically asks not rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut

i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.

skeepon said:
i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.
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Much appreciated.

so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)

jug6ernaut said:
Obviously you did not read the post to which you linked. It specifically says to NOT rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut
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Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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Simer03 said:
so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)
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It means that porting ics to other devices should devices should be a lot easier. The more pieces we have the better a chance of it happening.
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Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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(I'm assuming u don't know who your talking)
If u consider xda a mall, then yes I am lol. Still as I said, its a matter of courtesy. We are under no obligation to follow any request from other forums(that I'm aware of at least). I said something because paul is a huge figure as Android community goes and he deserves respect as does everyone. Android community is built on the backs of people liked him.
In comparison your post is pointless & if it want explicitly directed at me I would be removing it as it is unconstructive and is a direct attack (for lack of a better weird) on another user which is not tolerated. as it its I'll let it slide, but don't try and push it, I doubt another mod will do the same.
Jug6ernaut
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Petition to Samsung

Rather than sit idly on the forums wondering what could have been and spouting mis-information I decided that I'd do something pro-active and create a petition detailing our need for Android 4.0 on the I9000 and I9001.
I'm sure this could come to something if people want it enough.
http://www.change.org/petitions/www...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000
We can't force Samsung to maintain support for our phone but we can damn well try.

I signed the petition!

I signed too

i signed it too.

as
change.org/petitions/wwwsamsungcom-distribution-of-ice-cream-sandwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000#
This petition is beter!

Signed both - but true second petition seems to be more promising...
but keep up with such ideas!
greetz

I had no idea a petition already existed, I will promote the official one instead!

I've signed the second one.
IMHO, the OP should change the link for the second one if he doesn't want fragmentation...

signed
Sent using TCP/IP

done!
Good action, really
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Signed the official one.

me too.

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...lans-for-GALAXY-line-Galaxy-S-to-follow-later
Looks like you don't have to sign this anymore ) Don't know how much credible is youmobile.

Signed,
This thing needs to be shared, samsung cant force us out just yet just cus they want more money.
I think it was more than 10 000 000 Galaxy S devices sold. Leave us behind and loose the customer base.

t1mman said:
I've signed the second one.
IMHO, the OP should change the link for the second one if he doesn't want fragmentation...
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I did this as soon as I was aware of the official one.

I signed too
Moshon

dukuletz said:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...lans-for-GALAXY-line-Galaxy-S-to-follow-later
Looks like you don't have to sign this anymore ) Don't know how much credible is youmobile.
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This is just a copy of the official statement with one sentence added. The sentence that galaxy s would follow later.
From where are the sources? I doubt that whole text!
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I have signed alreadey.

Signed!!!!!!!!!

I have signed both!
Please inform the devs so that they can spread this information to more users!!!

OOS 4.0.2 is coming

https://twitter.com/OnePlus_ITA/status/819200734067617792
I would really appreciate an early download link if anybody has one

Nice!

They are using it as an excuse to delay publishing their Nougat sources.

eddymonti said:
They are using it as an excuse to delay publishing their Nougat sources.
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*lol* I'm afraid you're right...

And once funk wizard has it. He will be posting it.. Just sit back,chill and wait...
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I've got a feeling it might be just a security patch for the bootloader vulnerability https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....f-selinux-to-permissive-mode-in-fastboot/amp/

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They are using it as an excuse to delay publishing their Nougat sources.
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No, they're fixing a bootloader issue.

eddymonti said:
They are using it as an excuse to delay publishing their Nougat sources.
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I really do think it's because the software is not finalized yet. It's not even world wide, I bet they're still trying to polish it before they release the kernel.

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No, they're fixing a bootloader issue.
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One doesn't exclude the other. I don't think the update carries just the bootloader fix. My point is, they are using it as an excuse to release sources after all updates are done (the more updates, the more time they gain with that excuse).
What they should be doing instead is releasing sources the moment binaries are out like any developer-friendly, and more importantly, GPL-abiding entity.
You think a dev would publish a kernel based on their sources, if they released it earlier, without correcting the vulnerability themselves? The xda article said (sultanxda) it could be fixed by just a letter change in all instances of a "word" xD.
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eddymonti said:
One doesn't exclude the other. I don't think the update carries just the bootloader fix. My point is, they are using it as an excuse to release sources after all updates are done (the more updates, the more time they gain with that excuse).
What they should be doing instead is releasing sources the moment binaries are out like any developer-friendly, and more importantly, GPL-abiding entity.
You think a dev would publish a kernel based on their sources, if they released it earlier, without correcting the vulnerability themselves? The xda article said (sultanxda) it could be fixed by just a letter change in all instances of a "word" xD.
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They're probably trying to hide their poor/ broken code. Anyway, they're violating GPL by not releasing the source code. It's a poor move by OP whom I had hope for. This Nougat launch has been completely botched by them.

B3501 said:
They're probably trying to hide their poor/ broken code. Anyway, they're violating GPL by not releasing the source code. It's a poor move by OP whom I had hope for. This Nougat launch has been completely botched by them.
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So sue em. Aside from the handful of developers (rocking free OP phones) who cares.

jerrywmilton said:
So sue em. Aside from the handful of developers (rocking free OP phones) who cares.
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Are you a OP employee or something? Without sources we can't get a proper TWRP or proper custom Roms and kernels.

How many normal phone users even know what TWRP or custom ROM is? They are happy when they get apps installed, that's all customization they do.

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Are you a OP employee or something? Without sources we can't get a proper TWRP or proper custom Roms and kernels.
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As if Carl Pei doesn't know this. Acting like it is some "grand plan" to screw over developers is ridiculous. While a day or week seems like eternity to developers, the sun still rises. OP no doubt read the huge XDA article calling them out yesterday so just chill.

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So sue em. Aside from the handful of developers (rocking free OP phones) who cares.
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What a stupid question. People who frequent XDA and the likes, even the ones who are actually trying to learn development. That's who.
heiskanenej said:
How many normal phone users even know what TWRP or custom ROM is? They are happy when they get apps installed, that's all customization they do.
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Uhh... those same users are also likely to not know about XDA. Anyway, that question is irrelevan here.
Man, you apologists are something else.

Spasticdroid said:
What a stupid question. People who frequent XDA and the likes, even the ones who are actually trying to learn development. That's who.
Uhh... those same users are also likely to not know about XDA. Anyway, that question is irrelevan here.
Man, you apologists are something else.
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As if there aren't already a multitude of ROMs one can load for the OP on XDA right now. I could install a different one every day of the week and not run out for a while. The article yesterday by XDA to OP was well put...They have nothing to gain but bad publicity for not releasing it, so they probably have good cause. Relax.

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As if there aren't already a multitude of ROMs one can load for the OP on XDA right now. I could install a different one every day of the week and not run out for a while. The article yesterday by XDA to OP was well put...They have nothing to gain but bad publicity for not releasing it, so they probably have good cause. Relax.
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Yes,and the Roms don't fully work properly, the camera isn't full quality because of no "N" blobs etc,etc.

jerrywmilton said:
As if Carl Pei doesn't know this. Acting like it is some "grand plan" to screw over developers is ridiculous. While a day or week seems like eternity to developers, the sun still rises. OP no doubt read the huge XDA article calling them out yesterday so just chill.
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OK. Got your point - but 2 1/2 week? If you don't want to publish your code at the same time you publish your ready compiled product, don't base it on code under GPLv2. Period. BTW: Do you know, that Carl Pei commited OnePlus to zero-day source-code pushes? Considering this, you should accept our insisting on N sources.