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HASHTAG FOR TWITTER: #NeverAgain * Update: Froyo OTA 1/21 - Source within 60 days *

EDIT: Well, some will say this effort had no impact, others will not be so naive and realize the voices of MANY of you were heard. Really applaud everyone... regardless if it helped or not, Samsung has stated that they have heard us AND that it's something they are not used to, but will make an effort... I feel like this is success.
OTA should start tomorrow. Source should be released very shortly after that:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING!!!
For those not certain why this thread was created: PLEASE READ
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I generally remain calm and try and remain upbeat and defend... but the news (rumor/leak) about Samsung holding off the froyo release to sell more phones set me over the edge.
While nothing is confirmed, I still believe Samsung needs to be aware of just how pissed they are making our community. I'm not talking stupid class action, blah blah... I simply want our voice heard, and for a Froyo release to happen ASAP... but beyond that, I want them to adhere to the Open Handset Alliance and release their source for our developers.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/
I believe we all now who is going to put out a better product, and right now they (our developers) are handicapped because they do not have everything they need.
That said, we need to be organized!
We need twitter to trend AND we need to spread it all over Facebook! I am ignorant and have no interest in learning Facebook. I know the majority of you use it daily so I am going to rely on you guys for that!
To do this on twitter, we all need to use the same #hashtag. We also need to threaten something that means something to them... the whole problem is they are not updating to help with their sales (allegedly). Well, we need to threaten to never buy Samsung again.
Please use this #Hashtag:
#NeverAgain
would work.... it is easy to use, short and to the point.
An example: (just copy/paste this if you like)
[email protected] & @Samsungtweets I will never buy a Samsung product after the way you've treated your customers. #NeverAgain
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OR (thanks to @JunkDruggler):
[email protected] After the BH2 fail and the Vibrant fail.. I will #NeverAgain buy #samsung..
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You need to tweet:
@SamsungMobileUS and/or @SamsungTweets
I sent a similar tweet earlier, and they are now following me. THEY ARE LISTENING... MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!
trunkstar1 found a great link for their Facebook Wall (his post is here) - with nearly a HALF OF A MILLION PEOPLE!!
d_bot also has a Facebook group, join group NeverAgainSamsung
sweshes has created a groubal as well (online petition). If you are inclined, here is the link.
http://www.groubal.com/samsung-has-...ant-even-when-they-promised-end-of-year/#sign
Here is a LOT of their information for FACEBOOK users, compliments of a post from XDA user AllGamer.
AllGamer said:
List of Facebook Samsung's accounts related to our cause:
Mobile Department
Samsung Mobile
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile#!/SamsungMobile?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/samsungmobilecanada?v=wall
Samsung Mobile España
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ges/Samsung-Mobile-Espana/108610811866?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Global
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileGlobal#!/SamsungMobileGlobal?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Romania
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRomania
Samsung Mobile Singapore
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileSingapore#!/SamsungMobileSingapore?v=wall
Samsung Mobile UK
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUKmobile#!/SamsungUKmobile?v=wall
another Samsung Mobile ?
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=72687635881&v=wall
Country
Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/SamsungCanada?v=wall
Korea
http://www.facebook.com/samsungkorea#!/samsungkorea?v=wall
USA
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA?v=app_264732985926#!/SamsungUSA?v=wall
Models fan base pages?
Samsung Galaxy S
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...pages/Samsung-Galaxy-S/112079458807762?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Romania
http://www.facebook.com/i9000GalaxyS
Samsung Captivate
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ages/Samsung-Captivate/114820871900462?v=wall
Samsung Epic ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungEpic#!/SamsungEpic?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...msung-Galaxy-S-Vibrant/129061660469467?v=wall
Unknowns
Engineering ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Engineering/105652329467423?v=desc
Service ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungService#!/SamsungService?v=wall
Samsung ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung/25448656869#!/pages/Samsung/25448656869?v=wall
Samsung Apps ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungApps?filter=2#!/SamsungApps?v=wall
If anyone can confirm which ones are official and which ones are fan based, it'll be greatly appreciated.
The ones in the Mobile Department and Country specific are definitely legit, anything else are most likely fan based sites.
- NEW full list of legit Samsung Twitter accounts -
http://twitter.com/Samsung/lists
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I don't have twitter or anything, but for this cause, I'll make one...
Still on my vacation till the 12th of Feb...
Ill try to do it on my phone.
Yes, a vacation of 3 months, hehe!
Sent from the helm of Vibrant Territory!

Awesome, please do what you can people... the whole point is to be organized, make it trend on twitter and Samsung will be forced to respond. Maybe that is why I am so upset, they have not made any effort to debunk these rumors.
I personally am tired of defending them...

Do u suggest I keep saying it or just like once a day?

to be most effective, I think you should post this is all US galaxy s variant forums. Fascinate, Epic, Captivate, and the other one or two. Get all US Galaxy S users to do this too!
btw, i dont have a twitter account or have ever used it. any suggestions on how to post your message once i create a twitter account?
EDIT: i just set up a twitter account, how do i post that hashtag to samsung?

Creating an account is super easy (and the best way to keep up with our developers). Once you have the account created, just PM me if you need help.... you could just copy/paste what I have in the OP if you like.

#NeverAgain... waiting for a dual core HTC on TMO then dumping the vibrant...

I would never ever imagine this coming from you but you actually did a pretty good thread. I don't think it would make diffrence, people aren't going to follow up, XDA is a small portion of all samsung phones.
Like someone said samsung is known for their eletronics that are release as is, no follow up update. As big as they are they become greedy. Its a company out out for money, "making a new phone with new software" will get the most sales.
If they give us froyo now it will drop their new phone sales dramactecly (spelling). Because an old phone will be cheaper then a new phone The vibrant 4G isnt really a big update besides the FFC and HSPA+. Thereby the orignal vibrant.will get.bought.
Another thing to think about is when the vibrant 4G/plus gets out we will not get froyo right away, maybe a month after.
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Wow im not the only one that doesn't have a facebook wow, I think im going to make one talking smack about sammy just cause.
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kboater said:
to be most effective, I think you should post this is all US galaxy s variant forums. Fascinate, Epic, Captivate, and the other one or two. Get all US Galaxy S users to do this too!
btw, i dont have a twitter account or have ever used it. any suggestions on how to post your message once i create a twitter account?
EDIT: i just set up a twitter account, how do i post that hashtag to samsung?
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I did this... but now I realize that is against XDA rules (I never post multiple threads). I need to let the mods know my error. Hopefully this thread remains open though.

iwillkillyou said:
I would never ever imagine this coming from you but you actually did a pretty good thread....
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So... you think my sticky threads are bad? PM me how to improve, but 152K and 25k views and no complaints so far. But... thanks anyway for the compliment.

just tried for the first time, how can i tell if i did it right and it got posted on samsungs twitter?

s15274n said:
I did this... but now I realize that is against XDA rules (I never post multiple threads). I need to let the mods know my error. Hopefully this thread remains open though.
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Can others post this same thread though?

Saw your tweet to others a bit ago and retweeted!!
sent from the other side of my galaxy.

^ LOL, epic pic. Thanks for the RT.

xriderx66 said:
Can others post this same thread though?
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Ahh.... THAT is probably the way I should have done it. Hopefully the other threads remain open. I imagine XDA wants developers to get their source too....

kboater said:
just tried for the first time, how can i tell if i did it right and it got posted on samsungs twitter?
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If you PM me your twitter name I can tell you. I'm certain you did it correctly though, and I really appreciate it.

I wouldnt be upset about the hold on 2.2, if NOT FOR THE FREAKING FACT THAT THEIR 2.1 + TOUCH WIZ WAS BUGGY AS A ROACH MOTEL.

K, done. I doubt it will have any effect on whether we see updates for our Vibrants but at least I've contributed to the "user outrage", such as it is.

ronin4740 said:
K, done. I doubt it will have any effect on whether we see updates for our Vibrants but at least I've contributed to the "user outrage", such as it is.
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I agree... but we NEED to try.

Galaxy Nexus Boot, Recovery, and System dump (NEW!!)

http://android.modaco.com/topic/348194-04-nov-icl23d-galaxy-nexus-boot-recovery-system-dump/
found it on android central

Idk if you read the post that you linked. It specifically asks not rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut

i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.

skeepon said:
i just thought the original host was horrible since you gotta wait 15 minutes between downloads unless you have an account. but alright, i wont rehost.
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Much appreciated.

so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)

jug6ernaut said:
Obviously you did not read the post to which you linked. It specifically says to NOT rehost the files. While we are in no obligation to follow requests from other forums its common courtesy to support other developers when they do so much for the community as a whole. Something to keep in mind...
Otherwise thanks for the link!
Jug6ernaut
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Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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Simer03 said:
so what does this mean in terms of developers? (im a noob)
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It means that porting ics to other devices should devices should be a lot easier. The more pieces we have the better a chance of it happening.
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Point of stating this is? Are you like an online mall cop?
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(I'm assuming u don't know who your talking)
If u consider xda a mall, then yes I am lol. Still as I said, its a matter of courtesy. We are under no obligation to follow any request from other forums(that I'm aware of at least). I said something because paul is a huge figure as Android community goes and he deserves respect as does everyone. Android community is built on the backs of people liked him.
In comparison your post is pointless & if it want explicitly directed at me I would be removing it as it is unconstructive and is a direct attack (for lack of a better weird) on another user which is not tolerated. as it its I'll let it slide, but don't try and push it, I doubt another mod will do the same.
Jug6ernaut
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Samsung giving the Galaxy S and Tab another look for ics

http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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Galaxy S =/= Vibrant

bosox86 said:
Galaxy S =/= Vibrant
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Here is hoping they end up including the variants. That said, it was my understanding that the delay in getting Froyo on the Vibrant had as much to do with T-Mobile as with Samsung. If nothing else, an official ICS release with a new kernel for the i9000 could mean better custom ROMs for the variants. Right?

Samsung said to be rethinking Android 4.0 upgrade for Galaxy S
Cnet Article
Samsung said to be rethinking Android 4.0 upgrade for Galaxy S
I am not one to spread propaganda or high hopes, but this one looks like it may just happen given time will tell.

dreaming...
We tmobile vibrants have not gotten gingerbread yet! so for them to spit out dreams of ics to us.... danger danger lies ahead!
But we do need to keep the squeaky wheels turning so sign the petitions tweet the "we need gingerbread for vibrants"
But yes it would be nice!

Who is Tweeting and where do I sign? Please drop some links
RoxAbout said:
We tmobile vibrants have not gotten gingerbread yet! so for them to spit out dreams of ics to us.... danger danger lies ahead!
But we do need to keep the squeaky wheels turning so sign the petitions tweet the "we need gingerbread for vibrants"
But yes it would be nice!
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Who is Tweeting and where do I sign? Please drop some links

serendipityguy said:
Who is Tweeting and where do I sign? Please drop some links
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For anyone that cares; http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...ile-give-us-gingerbread-or-ice-cream-sandwich
Spread the link around! Post it on Team Whiskey's Facebook page and ICS Passion's, Google +, Twitter, porn sites! Anywhere.

I will sign this and put this on comment every time t mobile post something on the Facebook. The more of you guys can do this, the more attention it will get from t mobile. May be we will never have gingerbread but at least t mobile owes us an explanation.

theexel said:
For anyone that cares; http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...ile-give-us-gingerbread-or-ice-cream-sandwich
Spread the link around! Post it on Team Whiskey's Facebook page and ICS Passion's, Google +, Twitter, porn sites! Anywhere.
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Did you make that? Thanks if you did.
Signed it, and i think we should make a bit more viral on these forums than just one post in a random thread.
Can anyone do it? or should I just do it now.. if a good "speech" comes to mind i'll make a thread.
Also to whoever made that, are we asking for GB or ICS? lol

xriderx66 said:
Did you make that? Thanks if you did.
Signed it, and i think we should make a bit more viral on these forums than just one post in a random thread.
Can anyone do it? or should I just do it now.. if a good "speech" comes to mind i'll make a thread.
Also to whoever made that, are we asking for GB or ICS? lol
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Indeed, I made it.
I just said we wanted an update, either Gingerbread or ICS.
I'll write up a thread now.

Signed but I don't have high hopes at all...

serendipityguy said:
Who is Tweeting and where do I sign? Please drop some links
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For a couple months now everytime "tmobile or samsung" put out some tweet like "invite your friends to tmobile or what would you like for the holidays..or any number of inane tweets they put out"
I have been working into the retweet with comments along the lines of ;
...give the vibrant gingerbread!..#shameonsamsung #boycottsamsung
invite your friends to tmobile "why so you can screw them like you did the vibrant owners!..give the vibrant gingerbread!..#shameonsamsung #boycottsamsung
Tmobilejohn actually replied back to my friends one...
Any ways the point is to work into the retweets the basics "give vibrant gingerbread".
And if its true that tmobile had more than a passing hand in the decline of gingerbread for the vibrant I will gladdly pay the ETF and tell them where to stuff it!
We need to complain till they cant stand it anymore!

Please Every Samsung User Read This

Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks

Bump. This is important!
Sent from inside a black hole.

NOMIOMI said:
Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks
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We know about it mate...
Since Codeworks himself post it in CM9 thread N Original Development

eseregin said:
We know about it mate...
Since Codeworks himself post it in CM9 thread N Original Development
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Yes but since his thread is closed so it doesn't stay up...therefore users tend to neglect it. So making this thread is a great idea in order to get the most signatures. Am I right?
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signed. .

This is very important.
I signed it.

Signed
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Signed...
But I dnt think it will happen
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Signed in hopes they release it.
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NOMIOMI said:
Petition: team up and ask samsung-mobile for sourcecode
Help us to get needed sourcecode from samsung-mobile to get all hardware bits working on aosp based roms like cyanogenmod.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
thanks
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This was already posted 2 days ago..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526939
Use search before duping topics.

Signed thank you.

Signed ............

signed hope they release it

It's not that simple. Samsung use binaries they are simply not allowed to release source for, due to IP rights and stuff of their respective owners.
These hardware designers have no duty nor intention to release source for their IP just because they're used in conjunction with an open source OS.
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Title should be "Please Every US Samsung User Read This"
Asks for country then zip code ? Dafuq?
We dont use zip codes, heck we dont even have a functional mail service.
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Signed because this is important. And I don't think it's a bad idea to have a separate topic for this because not everyone lurks on the CM discussion/dev threads

NOT signed because this is really NOT important!
Samsung, will, I am sure, release what source code they can (for legal reasons, such as IP licensing) ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2.
They WON'T release the source code before that, as they are still changing the code and working on the features / bugs etc. to make ICS work on the SGS2.
No amount of b*tching from anyone will make a large multi-national like Samsung drastically change their development / release cycles *JUST* to keep a very small number of users happy.
... remember they're under NO OBLIGATION to release this source code in full... although I'm sure they will...

stuclark said:
NOT signed because this is really NOT important!
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WTF it's wrong with you? Who are you to say that?
Just because something isn't important for YOU, it does not mean that it isn't important at all! (No offense, but people like you annoy me really bad)
stuclark said:
Samsung, will, I am sure, release what source code they can (for legal reasons, such as IP licensing) ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2.
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That's what we ask for. But "ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2" could mean anything from the same day till the same decade.
I hope you understand what I'm up to.
Protip: If you don't like the idea, stay out of the thread or, at least, don't post.
Thanks
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TheSniperFan said:
WTF it's wrong with you? Who are you to say that?
Just because something isn't important for YOU, it does not mean that it isn't important at all! (No offense, but people like you annoy me really bad)
That's what we ask for. But "ONCE THEY RELEASE ICS for the SGS2" could mean anything from the same day till the same decade.
I hope you understand what I'm up to.
Protip: If you don't like the idea, stay out of the thread or, at least, don't post.
Thanks
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What you don't seem to grasp is that Samsung DOES release its code within the month of releasing an official ROM (Update1, 2 and 3 of the Gingerbread source being the prime example of this). They release the source they CAN release. The petition is to put pressure on them for the rest of the source code, which I agree with stuclark, is quite possible will not happen. I signed the petition just in case to give an extra number to a petition I don't believe will matter.
stuclark is entitled to his opinion, as you are, so let him post what he wants. He did not do it in a cruel manner or with horrible intentions. He is in his right to not sign if he does not believe. This is just like a friend of mine who got bullied by students because she didn't wanna sign a petition.
And he is right you know, 5200 users as opposed to the millions of phones that were sold... Is a VERY small portion of the SGS2 community.

karendar said:
stuclark is entitled to his opinion, as you are, so let him post what he wants. He did not do it in a cruel manner or with horrible intentions. He is in his right to not sign if he does not believe. This is just like a friend of mine who got bullied by students because she didn't wanna sign a petition.
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I have no problems when someone is entitled to his/her opinion.
BUT (s)he said that "it isn't important".
However, as there are people who sign this petition (or would, if they knew that it exists) it's BS.
(S)he should have said that it's not important in her/his opinion. That's quite a difference.
Your "argument" is nice too. The typical "you can't change anything anyway" argument.
Congratulations, if you think that way.
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Bootloader Unlock Petition for Amazon Fire

Going to be creating a petition as an attempt to somehow get us a unlock for the device. I will update this periodically in the coming days and weeks.
Here is the link to the petition I have made.
https://www.change.org/p/amazon-unl...otloader-5884c88e-9ccf-4cdd-b2e8-846d03d294f1
UPDATE 12/27
Tomorrow I will be adding a link to the petition. With the holidays and everything going on things are quite crazy.
UPDATE 12/28
I have updated the post to include the link to the petition.
If anyone would like to include any specific wording in said petition please reply below stating so.

It's been done, never had an effect. Don't waste your/our time.

ldeveraux said:
It's been done, never had an effect. Don't waste your/our time.
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Not sure it would be a waste of time.

rjmxtech said:
Not sure it would be a waste of time.
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Look, I never agree with the guy, but Davey126 explained to you in the other thread. Even if you acquired an unobtainable amount of signatures, somehow got it in front of someone that mattered, and forced them to read it, they would ignore it. Plain and simple. If they wanted to unlock the bootloader, they would have done it at release. Oh, but a bunch of nerds want me to do it so they can sidestep the OS we designed for it. Look at the petition for the S5: 1400 signatures and didn't make a difference. The same can be said for every device this has been attempted with. I wish it weren't true, it's just not ever going to amount to anything...

ldeveraux said:
Look, I never agree with the guy, but Davey126 explained to you in the other thread. Even if you acquired an unobtainable amount of signatures, somehow got it in front of someone that mattered, and forced them to read it, they would ignore it. Plain and simple. If they wanted to unlock the bootloader, they would have done it at release. Oh, but a bunch of nerds want me to do it so they can sidestep the OS we designed for it. Look at the petition for the S5: 1400 signatures and didn't make a difference. The same can be said for every device this has been attempted with. I wish it weren't true, it's just not ever going to amount to anything...
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Still gonna try

rjmxtech said:
Still gonna try
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Can you post the link? I greet it most likely won't work, but I also agree that we might as well try.

PorygonZRocks said:
Can you post the link? I greet it most likely won't work, but I also agree that we might as well try.
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Done

What is a petition?
Sorry I am stupid

Ayden7777 said:
Sorry I am stupid
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@rjmxtech created a petition asking Amazon to allow bootloader unlocking of this device. Based on the signature count, it's not going well.
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Ok but what is a petition lol?

Ayden7777 said:
Ok but what is a petition lol?
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You can ask google for meaning of a word
petition meaning
a formal written request, typically one signed by many people, appealing to authority in respect of a particular cause.
"she was asked to sign a petition against plans to build on the local playing fields"
synonyms: appeal, round robin, list of signatures/protesters
"about 7,000 people signed a petition objecting to the scheme"
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PorygonZRocks said:
@rjmxtech created a petition asking Amazon to allow bootloader unlocking of this device. Based on the signature count, it's not going well.
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