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Today I updated Flash and tried You Tube HD flash clip, and it flies like crazy WOW!!! And FULL HD1080p is now chopy like 720p before this update.
I'm impressed, since I saw HD flash playback on SGS 2, I thought that SGS reached it's limit. I was so wrong
Will check for a flash update.
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nedooo said:
Today I updated Flash and tried You Tube HD flash clip, and it flies like crazy WOW!!! And FULL HD1080p is now chopy like 720p before this update.
I'm impressed, since I saw HD flash playback on SGS 2, I thought that SGS reached it's limit. I was so wrong
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is your sgs overclocked??
what rom are u using
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Will check for a flash update.
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the last update doesn´t work fine with opera mobile. Shame
Can you give is an example? Link to a website for us?
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Well I use deodexed zipaligned XWJVA ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948790&highlight=deodexed
Damian Beta 7 KERNEL, Dolphin HD licenced browser (tried both fullscreen and non fullscreen HD 720p flash).
And site I used for refference is GSM Arena blog (where I first saw SGS 2 HD flash show off).
This one I wached in flying on 720p and slide show on 1080p:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/new-transformers-3-dark-of-the-moon-trailer/
And this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-drops-by-for-a-preview-we-roll-up-our-sleeves-video/
got this update since yesterday but haven't tested it yet with hd material. going to try this out tonight. I'll let you guys know if there are any improvements.
Works wonders, 720p is as smooth as on a SGS2 now
edit: Stock rom, completely bone stock JVB
Same for me. 720p good, 1080p no fun.
Looking at the changelog, it seems like they've added hardware acceleration.
Is it only on gingerbread, or also on froyo 2.2.1?
Yh, 720p works flawlessly.
Im on the deodex stock JVB rom with chainfire 3.1 kernal.
Went on youtube (desktop version) using Opera Mobile web browser.
Before it didnt allow you to change the quality but now you can.
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Looking at the changelog, it seems like they've added hardware acceleration.
Is it only on gingerbread, or also on froyo 2.2.1?
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I think it depends on if the browser supports hardware acceleration and I dont think the stock android browser does. Opera Mobile does.
I have just watched some vids with the new flash player and it seems really smooth.
I'm running js5 so froyo 2.2.1 is faster too.
Maybe there isn't even hardware acceleration.
In the market they say something about 3.0 (android 3.0 -> honeycomb).
But whatever, it doesn't matter how they did it.
It matters that they did it.
Those two videos posted are slideshows on cm7 browser/opera. Even at 1.5ghz oc
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no luck here its fluid on 360 but chobby on 720fps
doc rom js8+speedmod 13e 500+ext4 with opera mobile and stock
Anyone else get a thin green line at the bottom edge when playing videos back from desktop version of youtube site in full screen mode?
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no luck here its fluid on 360 but chobby on 720fps
doc rom js8+speedmod 13e 500+ext4 with opera mobile and stock
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Must mean it only works in 2.3 then, the gingerbread roms are pretty good now, its worth considering
Yeah the market description says hardware acceleration in android 3, if it also works in 2.3 that would be awesome. I'm leaning towards taking the plunge with the next kitchen update, either that or wait until 2.3.4 comes out (in May?).
Someone run a flash benchmark
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Ok, this is not an iPad vs Xoom debate but...I have in my possession an iPad 2 and a Xoom (perks of my work). I've had the ipad for about 2 weeks and the Xoom for only 2 days so I want to try to be fair but...
I think to myself, let's see how streaming video works on xoom compared to ipad. on ipad:
Netflix app - works great - Xoom - no such app
Hbogo on iPad works great - Xoom - no such app
Vudu on ipad works great - Xoom - no such app
Hulu Plus on ipad works - Xoom - what's hulu?
Just some other things I noticed -
looked for Wall Street Journal app which is great on iPad, but no such app
DirecTV app for iPad has some extra features than the Xoom app
Bank of AMerica App for ipad is nice but no such app for Xoom
Now I know, to each his own and purchase based on your needs but come on! Only thing iPad doesn't seem to do as well to me is flash of course.
Am I missing something?
I am a droid lover, Droid Original then Droid 2, then Droid Incredible etc. all rooted but a bit dissappointed in the feature list for Xoom. Am I alone?
patchm00 said:
Ok, this is not an iPad vs Xoom debate but...I have in my possession an iPad 2 and a Xoom (perks of my work). I've had the ipad for about 2 weeks and the Xoom for only 2 days so I want to try to be fair but...
I think to myself, let's see how streaming video works on xoom compared to ipad. on ipad:
Netflix app - works great - Xoom - no such app
Hbogo on iPad works great - Xoom - no such app
Vudu on ipad works great - Xoom - no such app
Hulu Plus on ipad works - Xoom - what's hulu?
Just some other things I noticed -
looked for Wall Street Journal app which is great on iPad, but no such app
DirecTV app for iPad has some extra features than the Xoom app
Bank of AMerica App for ipad is nice but no such app for Xoom
Now I know, to each his own and purchase based on your needs but come on! Only thing iPad doesn't seem to do as well to me is flash of course.
Am I missing something?
I am a droid lover, Droid Original then Droid 2, then Droid Incredible etc. all rooted but a bit dissappointed in the feature list for Xoom. Am I alone?
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Its not the limitation of xoom, in general its honeycomb OS itself. Some of the popular apps might showing up in market hopefully by end of this year.
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Its not the limitation of xoom, in general its honeycomb OS itself. Some of the popular apps might showing up in market hopefully by end of this year.
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Those of us that have rooted and flashed custom roms like Tiamat l.l have perfect ability to access hbogo, hulu, just about anything via the browser. I use Dolphin HD and the Tiamat rom lets the browser function as a desktop rather than mobile device. And yes, flash is great.
Bottom line...I'm not missing anything and I've got flash.
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Those of us that have rooted and flashed custom roms like Tiamat l.l have perfect ability to access hbogo, hulu, just about anything via the browser. I use Dolphin HD and the Tiamat rom lets the browser function as a desktop rather than mobile device. And yes, flash is great.
Bottom line...I'm not missing anything and I've got flash.
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Hmmm, so, you can do HBOGO and hulu because you are rooted and can load another browser that is capable of running those apps? In other words, it's not the ROM that allows this but the rooted device allowing a different browser that HBOGO works on?
thanks for your reply
Your point is well taken. But the same list should include all of the sites you CAN stream from due to flash. I believe Netlfix and Hulu are both Silverlight based.
I stream from Amazon all of the time.
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Hmmm, so, you can do HBOGO and hulu because you are rooted and can load another browser that is capable of running those apps? In other words, it's not the ROM that allows this but the rooted device allowing a different browser that HBOGO works on?
thanks for your reply
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Be obtuse if you like.
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Be obtuse if you like.
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Huh? I was being serious. Why would you think I'm being stupid? I was just trying to get clarification and I fear you took me totally wrong. Just trying to clarify that if I root my Xoom i could then add other browsers which would support HBOGO.
Sorry if i offended
>Does anyone but me not mind the lack of streaming videos?
+1. Don't have a TV.
Its the same browser (or you can use a different one), its just changing your user agent report to desktop, not android. Hulu is flash, and you can modify flash to also report desktop, not android, and that enables streams. HBO is probably similar. And Netflix will come, as it has a tegra and Netflix/nvidia have said tegras have features for Netflix. Also, you can get play on, which streams from every source under the moon for a few bucks a month extra. And it plays nice with honeycomb.
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Starting to make it sound better. I didn't want to root until I made a decision on returning it or not but I think I'll keep it and I just may have to get my wife an ipad
I did get a good deal at staples for 449 plus tax this week.
Thanks for everyone's comments.
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im not rooted and yes it sux, I am actually debating on taking it back and just waiting until next year or see what Netflix/hbogo will do with the xoom2. I think 3.2 will be out this month so maybe that might intrigue them to make an app.
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Hmmm, so, you can do HBOGO and hulu because you are rooted and can load another browser that is capable of running those apps? In other words, it's not the ROM that allows this but the rooted device allowing a different browser that HBOGO works on?
thanks for your reply
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You can install flash_player and dolphin off the market. Go to settings in dolphin, and change your UA to desktop.
Don't have to be rooted.
I have a 47" TV that I use for video play back so that it why it doesn't bother me. Now if I was 16 and didn't have a tv then it would.
The app selection is pretty lame but as a backup I also have an iPad.
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zone23 said:
I have a 47" TV that I use for video play back so that it why it doesn't bother me. Now if I was 16 and didn't have a tv then it would.
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I'm 40 and travel (too much) otherwise I would also not be bothered.
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The app selection is pretty lame but as a backup I also have an iPad.
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Heh, I want to do that but wife is making me make a choice! I guess I can use the offices ipad when I travel though.
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You can install flash_player and dolphin off the market. Go to settings in dolphin, and change your UA to desktop.
Don't have to be rooted.
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That worked for HBOGO! Thanks for that tidbit.
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Heh, I want to do that but wife is making me make a choice! I guess I can use the offices ipad when I travel though.
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I set my foot down. It landed me on the couch for two days but she got over it.
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patchm00 said:
Huh? I was being serious. Why would you think I'm being stupid? I was just trying to get clarification and I fear you took me totally wrong. Just trying to clarify that if I root my Xoom i could then add other browsers which would support HBOGO.
Sorry if i offended
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Sorry for being so touchy...maybe I misunderstood your comment.
Re-reading the thread, it came to me that people are really having two very different experiences with the Xoom. There's plain vanilla out of the box, which is nice but lacks some functionality, and the experience of those that have unlocked, rooted and customized their Xoom. The point I was trying to make is that if you're willing to be hands-on, you can have just about all the functions you are looking for.
The developers of XBMC have released a preliminary version for Android, and it works great on the Galaxy note. you can download the test build here. (http://dl.miniand.com/miniand/xbmc-android/xbmcapp-armeabi-v7a-debug-20120714.apk).
I have tried it on my note and it works great !
Going to test it now.. love xbmc on my computer
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Confirming it works great... not responsive too s-pen thogh..
Missing the ability to lock screen like inn mx-player. Woud love to see that.
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higher resolution videos stutter/lag a bit because it is software rendering ( hardware should be enabled by the time it gets to play staore) but I think it is a great start off the bat.
No hardware acceleration :S 1080p videos looks slow, even on the S3
It's an alpha. Nuff' said.
Getting audio bug today.. video playing bit no audio
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Todays build at:
http://www.mdrjr.net/2012/07/19/android-xmbc/
Just purchased the game and for my surprise it is running really bad here. Low fps and laggy as hell.
I have been researching and it seems that tegra 3 has some issues with games from gameloft.
Anyone else tried and had problems like this ? I am trying to find a solution for this but so far no luck.
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Yeah same. Used different kernels too. It's pretty much unplayable.
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Forgot to say that I am using motley kernel. If the problem is with tegra maybe it possible to emulate some other api....
Well...back on looking for a solution....
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The PowerVR / Adreno 2xx / Mali chips do really well with Gameloft games. I guess nVidia needs to increase their market share before Gameloft shows them any love. My phone is using the Adreno 205 chip, and plays some games better than my Tegra device(which sucks).
If i am not mistaken Chainfire had an app to emulate tegra drives on mali so we could run games like shadowgun.
Maybe the opposite could be done either ?
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Heh... maybe
Let me try that ChainFire3D, and report back, because I'd like to think this was 25 cents wasted hahaha
*edit* DO NOT flash ChainFire3D. It sent my tablet into bootloops and had to restore a nandroid. Little bug with this phone won't let you go into recovery from bootloader without it being plugged in.
id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
Same here runs great, using paranoid android 2.17 and montley kernel 1.1.1 gpu 484.
Runs horribly for me too. Stock kernel and XenonHD,no over clock. Laggy as hell.
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Runs laggy here too on rasbeanjelly stock kernal, Franco kernal seemed to have slightly better performance buts dissapointing that gameloft is having us resort to using custom roms/kernals just to get almost decent performance in there games, back on tegra 2 gameloft games were extremely smoove what happened here?
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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batman runs fine here..non-rooted..very mild lag sumtimes..but playable..i have complain bout asphalt 7...low gfx..terrible frame rate...
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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You are correct they aren't optimized yet, if they were you would see all the HD titles on the wapstore, and there's actually none on there other than the simple free games that they have, but hopefully that changes soon
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Ran fine on rooted stock when I bought it a while back. Pretty graphics but it's more like watching a movie with predictive actions. After a few tries got bored and uninstalled it.
I'm on stock unrooted and it works perfectly. Very smooth.
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mine lags... almost unplayable.
Could it be possible that some 'variants' of Nexus 7 runs fine?
Let s try to discover what are the settings of those who runs it smooth and copy it.
I will begin to test it here.
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I disabled the force gpu under developer and it got way way better. Now it is playable. My nexus frooze while playing. I will increase the voltage and how it works.
Nice...i will keep testing
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Thank you.
simms22 said:
id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
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Hey thanks for this advice,I just ran into this problem and your advice fixed it. So just wanted to say thank you.
I know OpenGL ES 3 needs to support it first, I also know that in order for the OUYA to support it(hardware wise), there are some pre-req's. The apk from Play works, but of course crashes when loading a game. Is there any chance of getting support for our OUYA's?
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I know OpenGL ES 3 needs to support it first, I also know that in order for the OUYA to support it(hardware wise), there are some pre-req's. The apk from Play works, but of course crashes when loading a game. Is there any chance of getting support for our OUYA's?
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Doubtful.... and even if it did work it'd run so bad.....
Need a quad core a15, or snapdragon 800, maybe a tegra 4... Basically a newest gen chip which this doesn't have.
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jmhalder said:
Need a quad core a15, or snapdragon 800, maybe a tegra 4... Basically a newest gen chip which this doesn't have.
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This isn't the first/only revision of the OUYA, so shouldn't we be planning ahead? If we can dev now, get things at least running on OUYA. When the latest & greatest OUYA comes out, things can implemented and fine tuned! Whadda think?
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I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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jmhalder said:
I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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Good point, you're pretty confident about it running on OUYA 2. Is there hardware specs on OUYA 2 yet?
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Nvidia gave funding to Ouya, so probably tegra 4
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I have a fast custom built PC:
i7 3770k, 16gb ram + GTX650Ti graphics and it ever struggles at times to emulate some games using Dolphin.
Therefore I would say Ouya 2 whatever specs it may be will not come close to achieving this.
I cant see this being viable in a portable device for several years.
Not sure why someone is developing this just now when we still cant perfectly emulate N64 / Dreamcast etc.
gazdaman. said:
I have a fast custom built PC:
i7 3770k, 16gb ram + GTX650Ti graphics and it ever struggles at times to emulate some games using Dolphin.
Therefore I would say Ouya 2 whatever specs it may be will not come close to achieving this.
I cant see this being viable in a portable device for several years.
Not sure why someone is developing this just now when we still cant perfectly emulate N64 / Dreamcast etc.
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Does it struggle on native resolution, or do you have the graphics turned up (on your PC)?
I think developing Dolphin for Android is a great idea. Even if we can't use it now, it will be very nice to use as soon as the tech is available.
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BenG321 said:
Does it struggle on native resolution, or do you have the graphics turned up (on your PC)?
I think developing Dolphin for Android is a great idea. Even if we can't use it now, it will be very nice to use as soon as the tech is available.
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+1 the more the marrier. Ps2 emulation would be sweet now too since its a dated platform.
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Neither of these will work well, they are difficult to emulate on n Pc, ps2 requires more power to emulate well than the Wii does... I can't get Gt4 to run well to save my life on my i7-680, with a mediocre graphics card (that still outperforms the Ouya by a long shot) Wii emulation might be possible at a very low resolution if OpenGL ES 3.0 ever works on the Ouya, and if the software is heavily optimized, and if we are significantly over clocked. Lol
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jmhalder said:
I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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except that the cpu/gpu is not underclocked at all and has an active cooling solution, which cannot be done in other android devices due to size/form factor, and power restrictions for portability.
It is after all it is a t33 tegra which is the fasted one available and uses ddr3 ram at 1600mhz.
Still much slower than a Snapdragon 600, which is the only thing that will run this right now (and even that runs it poorly)
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Still much slower than a Snapdragon 600, which is the only thing that will run this right now (and even that runs it poorly)
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by the numbers I can agree, except that the T33 on this particular platform doesn't need to be throttled or "woken up". If the Ouya had a snapdragon 600 setup in this fashion, I believe it would be amazing, but the underlying problem in this case isn't the hardware, it is the gimped version of the OS.
If we see an CM version for the ouya, I believe we could see a renaisance with the device (as with others that have gotten this treatment).
Oh and I got my wife's i3 based intel 3000 graphics sony laptop to run Super Smash Brother Melee, so low end pc hardware can do it.